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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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On the increase again... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
lets see if it beats the last and continues the pattern...
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Edit-- C1... atm
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Looked promising ....
 Quoting: TS66


On the increase again... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
lets see if it beats the last and continues the pattern...
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Edit-- C1... atm
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Still goin'
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May have topped at C1.1...a bit smaller than i expected..
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yeah..I see now. That damn GLP effect.
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lol, i still think she's studily brewing for at least an M...we shall see!
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1529 or 1515 (1530) ???

[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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Good Morning all.

Well my connection seems to be better today. thank goodness.

Time to play catch-up and read yesterday's posts.

I hope everyone is well.

Spittin` & Starry Eyes ... hope you two are feeling better.

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Good Morning all.

Well my connection seems to be better today. thank goodness.

Time to play catch-up and read yesterday's posts.

I hope everyone is well.

Spittin` & Starry Eyes ... hope you two are feeling better.
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Thanks, Shenue!

Glad to see your connection is better today.

Believe it or not, I'm still feeling pretty under the weather. My fevers are not as intense, but I'm still pretty warm.

For about 2 days, I have been constantly breaking fevers and instantly getting them back. It was horrible.

I haven't heard anything from Ces in two or so days..Hope to hear something soon, though!
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new sunspot region 1526 is old sunspot region 1512
new sunspot region 1528 is old sunspot region 1513
new sunspot region 1529 is likley old sunspot region 1514
old sunspot region 1515 is coming in close behind new sunspot region 1529 (old sunspot 1514)
this is the same thing it did in the last rotation
we were all watching 1514, then once 1515 popped around the corner, it said hello with a M flare
M5.6 Flare on 7/02/2012 @ 10:52 UTC - Sunspot 1515
- CME produced- ETA: July 4-5
then continued to pop off the longest running list of M flares we have seen this cycle
(see updated list on the 1st post, 1st page of this thread)

old sunspot 1515 should be rotating into view sometime tomorrow


here we can see these sunspots on their last rotation 26 days ago
[link to www.solen.info]
here we can see these sunspots turning into a Earth facing position for this rotation
[link to www.solen.info]

here we can see old sunspots 1514 and 1515 as they are today
you will see these 2 sunspot regions on the bottom section
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

here is a site link that is packed full of info on all these old sunspot regions
[link to www.sydneyobservatory.com.au]
some of you might find the info found on there very interesting :)



New region 11527 [N26E66] rotated into view on July 22 and was assigned a number by SWPC the next day. The region produced a single small C flare during the day.
New region 11528 [N17E67] rotated into view on July 22.
New region 11529 [S11E70] rotated into view on July 22.

Spotted active regions not numbered or interpreted differently by NOAA/SWPC:
New region S1816 [S18E81] rotated into view with a single spot. The region appears to have been the source of a C1.4 event at 23:35 UTC.
New region S1817 [S32E06] emerged with a single tiny spot.
New region S1818 [N17W32] emerged with a few spots.

AR 11520, several days behind the southwest limb, produced a magnificent (in STEREO-A images) flare early in the day, this event was associated with a very fast (above 2000 km/s) full halo CME and an increase in proton levels at Earth.
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IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 22/2100Z
to 23/2100Z: Solar activity was low. Newly numbered Regions 1527
(N27E64) and 1529 (S12E71) produced the only C-class flares for the
period: a C2/1f flare at 23/1127Z and a C1 flare at 23/1700Z,
respectively. New Region 1528 (N17E67) was also numbered. Two CMEs
were observed overnight in LASCO C2 imagery. The first was
associated with a filament eruption beyond the northwest limb
beginning at 22/1248Z and the second, an asymmetric full-halo
associated with flare activity from old Region 1520 (S16, L=086)
approximately 40 degrees beyond the west limb beginning at 23/0236Z.
These CMEs are not expected to disturb the geomagnetic field.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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great work thanks nin!
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1529 or 1515 (1530) ???

[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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1529 66
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Space Weather Alerts and Warnings Timeline
Space Weather Message Code: SUM10R
Serial Number: 559
Issue Time: 2012 Jul 24 1530 UTC
SUMMARY: 10cm Radio Burst
Begin Time: 2012 Jul 24 1343 UTC
Maximum Time: 2012 Jul 24 1345 UTC
End Time: 2012 Jul 24 1348 UTC
Duration: 5 minutes
Peak Flux: 260 sfu
Latest Penticton Noon Flux: 97 sfu
Description: A 10cm radio burst indicates that the electromagnetic burst associated with a solar flare at the 10cm wavelength was double or greater than the initial 10cm radio background. This can be indicative of significant radio noise in association with a solar flare. This noise is generally short-lived but can cause interference for sensitive receivers including radar, GPS, and satellite communications.
The link is here: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Good morning all... maybe there will be some action with the sun today.
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Space Weather Alerts and Warnings Timeline
Space Weather Message Code: SUM10R
Serial Number: 559
Issue Time: 2012 Jul 24 1530 UTC
SUMMARY: 10cm Radio Burst
Begin Time: 2012 Jul 24 1343 UTC
Maximum Time: 2012 Jul 24 1345 UTC
End Time: 2012 Jul 24 1348 UTC
Duration: 5 minutes
Peak Flux: 260 sfu
Latest Penticton Noon Flux: 97 sfu
Description: A 10cm radio burst indicates that the electromagnetic burst associated with a solar flare at the 10cm wavelength was double or greater than the initial 10cm radio background. This can be indicative of significant radio noise in association with a solar flare. This noise is generally short-lived but can cause interference for sensitive receivers including radar, GPS, and satellite communications.
The link is here: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Good morning all... maybe there will be some action with the sun today.
cool2
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Perfect example of how a somewhat unseemingly insignificant flare, can produce a larger impact than the flare size would indicate.
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they recalculated the speed of yesterdays CME
it was FASTER than they 1st reported

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph
[link to spaceweather.com]

HOLY WOW!
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they recalculated the speed of yesterdays CME
it was FASTER than they 1st reported

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph
[link to spaceweather.com]

HOLY WOW!
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So lucky it wasn't earthfacing ...........
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they recalculated the speed of yesterdays CME
it was FASTER than they 1st reported

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph
[link to spaceweather.com]

HOLY WOW!
 Quoting: NiNzrez


So lucky it wasn't earthfacing ...........
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If it was earth facing, what would that mean besides reaching us faster?
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they recalculated the speed of yesterdays CME
it was FASTER than they 1st reported

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph
[link to spaceweather.com]

HOLY WOW!
 Quoting: NiNzrez


So lucky it wasn't earthfacing ...........
 Quoting: TS66


If it was earth facing, what would that mean besides reaching us faster?
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think of a car hitting a wall at 15mph and the damage to both....
now that same car hitting that same wall at 150mph....
get the point.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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they recalculated the speed of yesterdays CME
it was FASTER than they 1st reported

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph
[link to spaceweather.com]

HOLY WOW!
 Quoting: NiNzrez


This is getting scary- man, I don't want to see what would happen if something like this was Earth-facing!

And, I just read on Bloomberg that European corn is being hit by a damaging heat-wave. The earth can't take much more heat. This sucks.

Good morning everyone.
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this would have been less then 1/10 the speed of light.

wow.

what could cause that kind of explosion?
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they recalculated the speed of yesterdays CME
it was FASTER than they 1st reported

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph
[link to spaceweather.com]

HOLY WOW!
 Quoting: NiNzrez


This is getting scary- man, I don't want to see what would happen if something like this was Earth-facing!

And, I just read on Bloomberg that European corn is being hit by a damaging heat-wave. The earth can't take much more heat. This sucks.

Good morning everyone.
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Good morning, Spider.

That is scary..

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here is a nice chart on CME speeds.
[link to vimeo.com]
[link to spaceweather.com]

Last Edited by psyoptics on 07/24/2012 02:13 PM
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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they recalculated the speed of yesterdays CME
it was FASTER than they 1st reported

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph
[link to spaceweather.com]

HOLY WOW!
 Quoting: NiNzrez


This is getting scary- man, I don't want to see what would happen if something like this was Earth-facing!

And, I just read on Bloomberg that European corn is being hit by a damaging heat-wave. The earth can't take much more heat. This sucks.

Good morning everyone.
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Good morning, Spider.

That is scary..

Has anything like this been observed before?
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Heat waves and cold waves come and go, and people and animals suffer. So much data on temp. changes all over the globe for mill. of years- hard to sift thru it- but, this year is a very hot year.
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here is a nice chart on CME speeds.
[link to vimeo.com]
[link to spaceweather.com]
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Rare- as in 'how do you want your steak?'
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look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as an ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER

Last Edited by psyoptics on 07/24/2012 02:27 PM
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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they recalculated the speed of yesterdays CME
it was FASTER than they 1st reported

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph
[link to spaceweather.com]

HOLY WOW!
 Quoting: NiNzrez


So lucky it wasn't earthfacing ...........
 Quoting: TS66


If it was earth facing, what would that mean besides reaching us faster?
 Quoting: whiteangel

think of a car hitting a wall at 15mph and the damage to both....
now that same car hitting that same wall at 150mph....
get the point.
 Quoting: psyoptics


Ahhhhh, yeah, duh on my part...
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look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as a ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER
 Quoting: psyoptics


I should've given more attention to that statement. But, please forgive me as I'm still quite sick.

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look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as a ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER
 Quoting: psyoptics


I should've given more attention to that statement. But, please forgive me as I'm still quite sick.

cool2
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A flare that fast gives us less chance to mitigate the effects - Nasa and the power companies and airlines etc.
that is esp. scary.
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just a thought...
as we are going to see a SS that had been erupting with multiple flares and CMEs last time it was facing us....
if a CME at that speed 7.6 mph were to happen after say 2 or 3 smaller, would they all get caught up in the faster moving CME?
would this create a huge fast moving CME?
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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
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so what was the size of the flare that produced the ER CME?
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
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Unfortunately there are so many discrepancies with CME's it would be tough to tell. One thing is for sure, Carrington Event? Most likely, no. However, I would be willing to bet a strong M Flare traveling at that rate of speed would most likely damage satellites and disrupt old/weak power grids. Oh, and you would want some cold hard cash as ATM's and credit card systems may go down as well. Cheers!
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Looks like 1529 again.
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Busy bugger !!

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here is a nice chart on CME speeds.
[link to vimeo.com]
[link to spaceweather.com]
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Rare- as in 'how do you want your steak?'
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look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as an ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER
 Quoting: psyoptics


according to the speed class
any CME 3000 km/sec or faster is classed as a ER event-
Extremely Rare
i guess they want to avoid using that term ^^





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