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Message Subject SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Poster Handle shenue
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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
 Quoting: whiteangel


my guess on the flare size from the carrington even is a small to mid sized M flare
flare size has nothing what so ever to do with the size of a CME
some of the largest CMEs seen did not even come from a X flare
and there can be CMEs without a flare ever happening at all

a flare size is something to take note on and watch
but when speaking of the carrington event, or another carrington event, we are speaking of a CME
it matters none at all what size the flare was that the carrington CME came from, cause it was the CME itself that did the damage
the carrington CME was large and fast


google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
 Quoting: NiNzrez


ohyeah
 Quoting: TS66


I don't understand everything that those in the know here, understand. But I am happy to say that I do understand what you are saying NiN. What makes me a little nuts is when the news reports on a CME (which having the news report on a CME is a fairly rare event) ... anyway it drives me a bit nuts when they say it is a 'flare' heading towards us. You'd think someone that writes the news reports would at least care enough to get the terms correct. *shrugggg* I know, in the big scheme of things, that isn't all that important, but it is just a little pet peeve of mine.
 
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