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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22003546 United States 08/17/2012 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solarsoft is claiming all these solar flares are coming from 1546, [link to www.lmsal.com] But if you look closely, you'll see that Solarham is right, they do not originate from 1546 but from an unnumbered region just north and east of 1546 rotating in, and it's getting busy for sure. [link to www.lmsal.com] Could someone refresh my memory, didn't Nin say as the sun's polar shift approaches, we would see more more solar activity originating from North of it's equator ?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2159872 United States 08/17/2012 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solarsoft is claiming all these solar flares are coming from 1546, [link to www.lmsal.com] Quoting: TS66 But if you look closely, you'll see that Solarham is right, they do not originate from 1546 but from an unnumbered region just north and east of 1546 rotating in, and it's getting busy for sure. [link to www.lmsal.com] Could someone refresh my memory, didn't Nin say as the sun's polar shift approaches, we would see more more solar activity originating from North of it's equator ?? I recall reading that |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22003546 United States 08/17/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solarsoft is claiming all these solar flares are coming from 1546, [link to www.lmsal.com] Quoting: TS66 But if you look closely, you'll see that Solarham is right, they do not originate from 1546 but from an unnumbered region just north and east of 1546 rotating in, and it's getting busy for sure. [link to www.lmsal.com] Could someone refresh my memory, didn't Nin say as the sun's polar shift approaches, we would see more more solar activity originating from North of it's equator ?? I recall reading that Thank you I think the last few rotations are showing quite a bit more activity to the North. |
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Kael User ID: 1451069 Syria 08/17/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907170 Well you know ... "they" try It seems that the calm is over. Time for action :) :5a: "Thou we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven that which we are, we are. One equal temper of heroic hearts made weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yield" |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 08/17/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are two dots, similar to the ones in the other picture Ohhhh I thought he was just being a smart ass. LOL Ermm. sorry! No prob.. I do have that rep for some reason.. I saw what rage posted then I saw the other photo on another thread.. Synchronicity..? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22003546 United States 08/17/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Space Weather Message Code: SUM10R Serial Number: 564 Issue Time: 2012 Aug 17 1736 UTC SUMMARY: 10cm Radio Burst Begin Time: 2012 Aug 17 1714 UTC Maximum Time: 2012 Aug 17 1715 UTC End Time: 2012 Aug 17 1717 UTC Duration: 3 minutes Peak Flux: 140 sfu Latest Penticton Noon Flux: 98 sfu Description: A 10cm radio burst indicates that the electromagnetic burst associated with a solar flare at the 10cm wavelength was double or greater than the initial 10cm radio background. This can be indicative of significant radio noise in association with a solar flare. This noise is generally short-lived but can cause interference for sensitive receivers including radar, GPS, and satellite communications. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Kicking Global D up a bit [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] And density is again making an appearance, Bz is going south .... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] |
Tiny Trink User ID: 22129422 United States 08/17/2012 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | South polar field updated today, finally. -13 on July 21st. It's gone down 1 every 10 days for the last 4 cycles listed. A zero date at this pace brings us to December 8th for the field flip. Quoting: NiNzrez [link to wso.stanford.edu] Pole flip update: for the first time since mid 2010 the sun's south polar magnetic field has started to weaken. Quoting: madajs [link to wso.stanford.edu] Looks like those that were wondering at the south pole's aloofness (incl. me) can begin to relax. She's beginning to crumble :) haha were on the same page with info ;) Solarsoft is claiming all these solar flares are coming from 1546, [link to www.lmsal.com] Quoting: TS66 But if you look closely, you'll see that Solarham is right, they do not originate from 1546 but from an unnumbered region just north and east of 1546 rotating in, and it's getting busy for sure. [link to www.lmsal.com] Could someone refresh my memory, didn't Nin say as the sun's polar shift approaches, we would see more more solar activity originating from North of it's equator ?? TS ~ Here is what I found from Nin in the posts re the sun pole shift. Tiny Trink, Double T, Tink Tink, T x 2 "You are responsible for the Energy you bring into a space" ~ Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor Shine Brightly as someone is needing your Inner Light to find theirs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22003546 United States 08/17/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another small C, this guy means business .... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Ok I'll be quiet now, just got a little excited !!! lol |
madajs User ID: 6377684 Canada 08/17/2012 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another small C, this guy means business .... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Quoting: TS66 Ok I'll be quiet now, just got a little excited !!! lol This new region is bringing the party with him! I hope there's juice left in the tank as it rotates earth facing : ) And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22003546 United States 08/17/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | South polar field updated today, finally. -13 on July 21st. It's gone down 1 every 10 days for the last 4 cycles listed. A zero date at this pace brings us to December 8th for the field flip. Quoting: NiNzrez [link to wso.stanford.edu] Pole flip update: for the first time since mid 2010 the sun's south polar magnetic field has started to weaken. Quoting: madajs [link to wso.stanford.edu] Looks like those that were wondering at the south pole's aloofness (incl. me) can begin to relax. She's beginning to crumble :) haha were on the same page with info ;) Solarsoft is claiming all these solar flares are coming from 1546, [link to www.lmsal.com] Quoting: TS66 But if you look closely, you'll see that Solarham is right, they do not originate from 1546 but from an unnumbered region just north and east of 1546 rotating in, and it's getting busy for sure. [link to www.lmsal.com] Could someone refresh my memory, didn't Nin say as the sun's polar shift approaches, we would see more more solar activity originating from North of it's equator ?? TS ~ Here is what I found from Nin in the posts re the sun pole shift. Thank you Tiny !!! :) I know this is related, but I was sure it was more specific to the activity in the North increasing .... But then again, I've been known to confuse ideas with reality lol. Thanks for looking that up |
Tiny Trink User ID: 22129422 United States 08/17/2012 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | South polar field updated today, finally. -13 on July 21st. It's gone down 1 every 10 days for the last 4 cycles listed. A zero date at this pace brings us to December 8th for the field flip. Quoting: NiNzrez [link to wso.stanford.edu] Pole flip update: for the first time since mid 2010 the sun's south polar magnetic field has started to weaken. Quoting: madajs [link to wso.stanford.edu] Looks like those that were wondering at the south pole's aloofness (incl. me) can begin to relax. She's beginning to crumble :) haha were on the same page with info ;) Solarsoft is claiming all these solar flares are coming from 1546, [link to www.lmsal.com] Quoting: TS66 But if you look closely, you'll see that Solarham is right, they do not originate from 1546 but from an unnumbered region just north and east of 1546 rotating in, and it's getting busy for sure. [link to www.lmsal.com] Could someone refresh my memory, didn't Nin say as the sun's polar shift approaches, we would see more more solar activity originating from North of it's equator ?? TS ~ Here is what I found from Nin in the posts re the sun pole shift. Thank you Tiny !!! :) I know this is related, but I was sure it was more specific to the activity in the North increasing .... But then again, I've been known to confuse ideas with reality lol. Thanks for looking that up You are very welcome and I will keep looking. Tiny Trink, Double T, Tink Tink, T x 2 "You are responsible for the Energy you bring into a space" ~ Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor Shine Brightly as someone is needing your Inner Light to find theirs. |
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Tiny Trink User ID: 22129422 United States 08/17/2012 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TS ~ I think I found what you were talking about, Nin references Tomas discussing the shift on page 902. I copied into this post for you, see if this is what you are looking for. BREAKING NEWS: Quoting: Poline 1349287 ============== NASA DON'T GET WHY SUN GOING MONO-POLAR ======================================= [link to www.nasa.gov] Approximately every 11 years the magnetic field on the sun reverses completely – the north magnetic pole switches to south, and vice versa. It’s as if a bar magnet slowly lost its magnetic field and regained it in the opposite direction, so the positive side becomes the negative side. But, of course, the sun is not a simple bar magnet and the causes of the switch, not to mention the complex tracery of moving magnetic fields throughout the eleven-year cycle, are not easy to map out. While the cycle unfolds with seeming regularity every 11 years, in two upcoming papers scientists highlight just how asymmetrical this process actually is. Currently the polarity at the north of the sun appears to have decreased close to zero – that is, it seems to be well into its polar flip from magnetic north to south -- but the polarity at the south is only just beginning to decrease. "Right now, there's an imbalance between the north and the south poles," says Jonathan Cirtain, a space scientist at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., who is also NASA's project scientist for a Japanese solar mission called Hinode. "The north is already in transition, well ahead of the south pole, and we don't understand why." [link to www.nasa.gov] from the same article "both papers agree that the switch is imminent at the north pole, well in advance of general predictions that solar maximum for this cycle will occur in 2013" " The microwave radiation technique described in the second paper makes use of the discovery in 2003 that as the sun moves toward solar maximum, giant eruptions on the sun, called prominence eruptions – which during solar minimum, are concentrated at lower solar latitudes -- begin to travel toward higher latitudes near the poles. In addition, the polar brightness in the microwave wavelengths declines to very low values" "These prominence eruptions are associated with increased solar activity such as coronal mass ejections or CMEs, so CMEs originating from higher latitudes also point to an oncoming solar maximum," " "When we start to see prominence eruptions above 60 degrees latitude on the sun, then we know that we are reaching solar maximum." VERY interesting report thanks for sharing this :) Edit Note: we just saw a northern prominence lift off earlier today Tom, why have all of these mega-CMEs been deflected south of the ecliptic? Is this unusual or has this type of thing been seen before? We should have proton storms and a dozen CMEs coming our way; instead every eruption from 1515 was re-directed away from the ecliptic. I'm at a loss of an explanation here and no one seems to have an answer except for Niburu Nonsense. I'm seeking some coherent theories for this...... Quoting: Hugh M Eye :shields up: :pyramidmag-field: check out a closeup in Helioviewer of the 211 wavelength from a day or so ago it seemed sort of surreal to me maybe I'll post a link also the 304 showed the ejecta directed N and S very strange With Solar Cycle 24, the Sunspot Regions in the Southern Hemisphere are oriented - to +, and CMEs usually arive from these regions + to - making a poor connection with our geomagnetic field. We have a gread deal more to be concerned from ARs in the Northern Hemisphere. As the cycle progresses we can expect to see these regions begin to change their polarity structure starting with regions off the SE limb ( usually). This is but one of the many ways we get a heads up on the approach of solar max. I believe Dr Leif Svalgaard wrote the original documentation I read on this some years ago. You may want to do a search for his observations, theorys and findings. Dr Svalgaard is one Astrophysicst that I have a great amount of respect for. Solar cycle 25 will begin with a reversed polarity Sunspot Region after a dormant spotless Sun that will be in the Northern Hemisphere. Solar Cycle 25 Sunspot Regions will be reversed from 24s. -to + in the Northern Hemisphere and + to - in the Southern. amazing that the Sun reverses polarity every cycle, isn't it? what if it reversed our weakened one this time as well? Food for thought. I hope I made some sence, as I have been up way to long and need some rest befor this weekend!!! haha! Nin - Is this what you are looking for that Thomas wrote? I am a lurker and thought I would help out if possible instead of just hitting F5 key. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16439963 The hinode website says that their observations were that the south pole was not moving while the north pole had almost completed its flip which "would suggest a transition from the typical bipolar configuration" The timeline was a month as the north was already flipping, and that was a couple weeks ago. I haven't found anything on it since or really know what a quadripolar sun would actually do. I cant help but interject here! This group from Japan pulls this crap repeatedly. The poles on the Sun flip every cycle! A new cycle begins with a reversed polarity sunspot. We had one a few months ago (way early ) NASA missed the fact, and projected a large geomagnetic storm from it but it did not happen because the CME hit + to - and did not make a good connection with our magetosphere. We did! Go back a few monthsandread ysef, as well as NiNs posts on the subject. The Northern latitude sunspots will reverse polarity and the southern latitude sunspots will as well after the polar reversal We are still a year away from solar max. Then we have several years of decline then the poles will be reversed after a long period of a spotless sun we will find a reversed polarity sunspot in the northern hemisphere of the Sun and cycle 25 will be undrway. OK! GEESH! Again, just to be very clear! The Sun reverses it magnetic poles every 11 years. The Earth does not, as often, yet it does also!. One day we will, as Earth has done it many, many, many times. We know this because the sea floor is striated with strips of magnetically aligned seabed N-S then S-N then N-S over and over as the sea floor expands from underneath the continent in the pacific ocean; as it cools it is permanently magnetized according to the polar alignment of the Earth. It changes every several hundered to million years, over, and over again. But the Sun does it every 11 yeqrs! ON Q! Maybe this is our year to flip with the Sun? think about it..haha! Nin - Maybe it is this one you are looking for from Thomas? South polar field updated today, finally. -13 on July 21st. It's gone down 1 every 10 days for the last 4 cycles listed. A zero date at this pace brings us to December 8th for the field flip. Quoting: NiNzrez [link to wso.stanford.edu] Pole flip update: for the first time since mid 2010 the sun's south polar magnetic field has started to weaken. Quoting: madajs [link to wso.stanford.edu] Looks like those that were wondering at the south pole's aloofness (incl. me) can begin to relax. She's beginning to crumble :) haha were on the same page with info ;) Solarsoft is claiming all these solar flares are coming from 1546, [link to www.lmsal.com] Quoting: TS66 But if you look closely, you'll see that Solarham is right, they do not originate from 1546 but from an unnumbered region just north and east of 1546 rotating in, and it's getting busy for sure. [link to www.lmsal.com] Could someone refresh my memory, didn't Nin say as the sun's polar shift approaches, we would see more more solar activity originating from North of it's equator ?? TS ~ Here is what I found from Nin in the posts re the sun pole shift. Thank you Tiny !!! :) I know this is related, but I was sure it was more specific to the activity in the North increasing .... But then again, I've been known to confuse ideas with reality lol. Thanks for looking that up Tiny Trink, Double T, Tink Tink, T x 2 "You are responsible for the Energy you bring into a space" ~ Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor Shine Brightly as someone is needing your Inner Light to find theirs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22003546 United States 08/17/2012 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TS ~ I think I found what you were talking about, Nin references Tomas discussing the shift on page 902. Quoting: Tiny Trink I copied into this post for you, see if this is what you are looking for. BREAKING NEWS: Quoting: Poline 1349287 ============== NASA DON'T GET WHY SUN GOING MONO-POLAR ======================================= [link to www.nasa.gov] Approximately every 11 years the magnetic field on the sun reverses completely – the north magnetic pole switches to south, and vice versa. It’s as if a bar magnet slowly lost its magnetic field and regained it in the opposite direction, so the positive side becomes the negative side. But, of course, the sun is not a simple bar magnet and the causes of the switch, not to mention the complex tracery of moving magnetic fields throughout the eleven-year cycle, are not easy to map out. While the cycle unfolds with seeming regularity every 11 years, in two upcoming papers scientists highlight just how asymmetrical this process actually is. Currently the polarity at the north of the sun appears to have decreased close to zero – that is, it seems to be well into its polar flip from magnetic north to south -- but the polarity at the south is only just beginning to decrease. "Right now, there's an imbalance between the north and the south poles," says Jonathan Cirtain, a space scientist at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., who is also NASA's project scientist for a Japanese solar mission called Hinode. "The north is already in transition, well ahead of the south pole, and we don't understand why." [link to www.nasa.gov] from the same article "both papers agree that the switch is imminent at the north pole, well in advance of general predictions that solar maximum for this cycle will occur in 2013" " The microwave radiation technique described in the second paper makes use of the discovery in 2003 that as the sun moves toward solar maximum, giant eruptions on the sun, called prominence eruptions – which during solar minimum, are concentrated at lower solar latitudes -- begin to travel toward higher latitudes near the poles. In addition, the polar brightness in the microwave wavelengths declines to very low values" "These prominence eruptions are associated with increased solar activity such as coronal mass ejections or CMEs, so CMEs originating from higher latitudes also point to an oncoming solar maximum," " "When we start to see prominence eruptions above 60 degrees latitude on the sun, then we know that we are reaching solar maximum." VERY interesting report thanks for sharing this :) Edit Note: we just saw a northern prominence lift off earlier today ... Quoting: RTS REDUX check out a closeup in Helioviewer of the 211 wavelength from a day or so ago it seemed sort of surreal to me maybe I'll post a link also the 304 showed the ejecta directed N and S very strange With Solar Cycle 24, the Sunspot Regions in the Southern Hemisphere are oriented - to +, and CMEs usually arive from these regions + to - making a poor connection with our geomagnetic field. We have a gread deal more to be concerned from ARs in the Northern Hemisphere. As the cycle progresses we can expect to see these regions begin to change their polarity structure starting with regions off the SE limb ( usually). This is but one of the many ways we get a heads up on the approach of solar max. I believe Dr Leif Svalgaard wrote the original documentation I read on this some years ago. You may want to do a search for his observations, theorys and findings. Dr Svalgaard is one Astrophysicst that I have a great amount of respect for. Solar cycle 25 will begin with a reversed polarity Sunspot Region after a dormant spotless Sun that will be in the Northern Hemisphere. Solar Cycle 25 Sunspot Regions will be reversed from 24s. -to + in the Northern Hemisphere and + to - in the Southern. amazing that the Sun reverses polarity every cycle, isn't it? what if it reversed our weakened one this time as well? Food for thought. I hope I made some sence, as I have been up way to long and need some rest befor this weekend!!! haha! Nin - Is this what you are looking for that Thomas wrote? I am a lurker and thought I would help out if possible instead of just hitting F5 key. ... Quoting: tomasgod1 I cant help but interject here! This group from Japan pulls this crap repeatedly. The poles on the Sun flip every cycle! A new cycle begins with a reversed polarity sunspot. We had one a few months ago (way early ) NASA missed the fact, and projected a large geomagnetic storm from it but it did not happen because the CME hit + to - and did not make a good connection with our magetosphere. We did! Go back a few monthsandread ysef, as well as NiNs posts on the subject. The Northern latitude sunspots will reverse polarity and the southern latitude sunspots will as well after the polar reversal We are still a year away from solar max. Then we have several years of decline then the poles will be reversed after a long period of a spotless sun we will find a reversed polarity sunspot in the northern hemisphere of the Sun and cycle 25 will be undrway. OK! GEESH! Again, just to be very clear! The Sun reverses it magnetic poles every 11 years. The Earth does not, as often, yet it does also!. One day we will, as Earth has done it many, many, many times. We know this because the sea floor is striated with strips of magnetically aligned seabed N-S then S-N then N-S over and over as the sea floor expands from underneath the continent in the pacific ocean; as it cools it is permanently magnetized according to the polar alignment of the Earth. It changes every several hundered to million years, over, and over again. But the Sun does it every 11 yeqrs! ON Q! Maybe this is our year to flip with the Sun? think about it..haha! :freaks: Nin - Maybe it is this one you are looking for from Thomas? South polar field updated today, finally. -13 on July 21st. It's gone down 1 every 10 days for the last 4 cycles listed. A zero date at this pace brings us to December 8th for the field flip. Quoting: NiNzrez [link to wso.stanford.edu] Solarsoft is claiming all these solar flares are coming from 1546, [link to www.lmsal.com] Quoting: TS66 But if you look closely, you'll see that Solarham is right, they do not originate from 1546 but from an unnumbered region just north and east of 1546 rotating in, and it's getting busy for sure. [link to www.lmsal.com] Could someone refresh my memory, didn't Nin say as the sun's polar shift approaches, we would see more more solar activity originating from North of it's equator ?? TS ~ Here is what I found from Nin in the posts re the sun pole shift. Thank you Tiny !!! :) I know this is related, but I was sure it was more specific to the activity in the North increasing .... But then again, I've been known to confuse ideas with reality lol. Thanks for looking that up That's it !!! OMG you found it !!! I tried but got pulled away ... (tomato stuff, lol) Thank you so much !!! Well then it may be go time after all !!! Thanks again Tiny |
shenue User ID: 5263313 United States 08/17/2012 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are you going TS? Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. |
psyoptics User ID: 11919225 United States 08/17/2012 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907170 Well you know ... "they" try TS.... how many times have you shoveled 10" of partly cloudy off your driveway? a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
Tiny Trink User ID: 22139818 United States 08/17/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's it !!! OMG you found it !!! I tried but got pulled away ... (tomato stuff, lol) Quoting: TS66 Thank you so much !!! Well then it may be go time after all !!! Thanks again Tiny TS ~ Your welcome. I love doing research! lol Tiny Trink, Double T, Tink Tink, T x 2 "You are responsible for the Energy you bring into a space" ~ Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor Shine Brightly as someone is needing your Inner Light to find theirs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22003546 United States 08/17/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907170 Well you know ... "they" try :shy: TS.... how many times have you shoveled 10" of partly cloudy off your driveway? Guess that's my point, no one knows for sure, even the edumacated ... lol. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22003546 United States 08/17/2012 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see solarsoft just changed all their 1546 flares to ( New AR NE ) 1547 ??? [link to www.lmsal.com] Can't wait to see it's configuration when it comes around the bend .... |
shenue User ID: 5263313 United States 08/17/2012 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No where in particular .... but I think we may be getting closer to solar maximum/solar pole shift :) It certainly seems that way. There is still so much I don't understand. But I try to read each post and watch and try to learn. But I am way behind most of you here, unfortunately. Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 08/17/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to lasp.colorado.edu] Check out the round 'hole' in the energy halo to the left of SOL, magnetic filament? “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 08/17/2012 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats interesting! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |