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Hey TS on that yahoo slide if you go through them about halfway you'll spot 1560, how funny and GOOD JOB!applause2

1560 will for now be known as TSs BGD SS

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Hey TS on that yahoo slide if you go through them about halfway you'll spot 1560, how funny and GOOD JOB!applause2

1560 will for now be known as TSs BGD SS
 Quoting: shadasonic


I didn't go all the way through, they were small and I couldn't get a good look at the connfigurations(lost some hair too!! LOL)

When I use the SDO site [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I always use the 4096 resolution, then click to enlarge the particular SS I want to view. It provides an incredibly detailed view (like the one above).

Well I sure hope it gives up more of a show than what it has so far then wink LOL
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That was quick, thanks mods hf

Ok Shada, please tell me, because I hate not understanding this, why the area I have circled is not a BGD. TIA

:penumbra3:
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Well in my eyes that is BGD, you've got both polarities, no discernible division between them and the penumbra has enclosed the umbrae= BGD
 Quoting: shadasonic


Exactly, that's the latest shot from SDO ...

OK so now at least I feel like I have a clue, and 1560 is a BGD, thank you so much Shada smile_kiss
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Yeah looking at it that close seems cut and dried, good pic and good investigating!
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So if you stuck a big conductor/filament between these two (or they touched) boom.

ie red=positive, black=negative, (blue is pertyer)

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I have to be honest, I have no clue what ultimately sets these things off for sure ....
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Well in my eyes that is BGD, you've got both polarities, no discernible division between them and the penumbra has enclosed the umbrae= BGD
 Quoting: shadasonic


Exactly, that's the latest shot from SDO ...

OK so now at least I feel like I have a clue, and 1560 is a BGD, thank you so much Shada smile_kiss
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Yeah looking at it that close seems cut and dried, good pic and good investigating!
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So if you stuck a big conductor/filament between these two (or they touched) boom.

ie red=positive, black=negative, (blue is pertyer)
 Quoting: AkivaJeff



[link to www2.ucar.edu]
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Black negative = red, white positive= blue


Heres a good read on sunspots and polarity plus it gives several subsurface shots which are very interesting

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I am still around...lurking and waiting.

This things been a tangled mess for hours

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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samn here
check out the HAARP magnetometer
[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]
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I have to be honest, I have no clue what ultimately sets these things off for sure ....
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I'm so far beneath these guys it's rediculus. but.
My background is 9 yr USAF Electronic Warfare and 6 yr civ.
Electrons flow toward protons. If there is no resistance between them, they explode to the extent of the least powerful of the two. This can be acheived by a wire, or filament. Plumbing works in a similar fashion.
Electromagnotism is like bringing a 3rd dimension into the picture. This shit with the sun and the earth is even more mind boggling (a 4th diminsion, perhaps). On this thread I'm a 2 dimensional guy in a 4 dimension world. What a THRILL!

wtf
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I have to be honest, I have no clue what ultimately sets these things off for sure ....
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I'm so far beneath these guys it's rediculus. but.
My background is 9 yr USAF Electronic Warfare and 6 yr civ.
Electrons flow toward protons. If there is no resistance between them, they explode to the extent of the least powerful of the two. This can be acheived by a wire, or filament. Plumbing works in a similar fashion.
Electromagnotism is like bringing a 3rd dimension into the picture. This shit with the sun and the earth is even more mind boggling (a 4th diminsion, perhaps). On this thread I'm a 2 dimensional guy in a 4 dimension world. What a THRILL!

wtf
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


good analogy
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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To resume the fantastic explanation of NiN:

Added 9/2/2012 @ 20:20 UTC
Southward Bz
The Bz component of the Interplanetary Magnetic Field (IMF) is currently tipped south and this could allow the solar wind to interact with Earth's magnetosphere. This may lead to increased geomagnetic activity at very high latitudes.

[link to www.solarham.net]

Thanks NiN...
hf
 Quoting: PsycoCandy


The predictive models show the IMF should be North (+) now. NOAA and NASA seem to have dart-throwing chimps making their forecasts lately. By the way, whatever became of the 4 million MPH CME that supposed to slam us yesterday? At least the chimps work for bananas; the no-nothing Phd.'s are a festering, bottomless money pit.

The Rise of the Chimps, Part II will continue after this commercial.............

IMF 3-Day Model:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

More useless models here:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

bananaspeedbananbanana2deadbananasidewaysbdance
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Yup you're right. Dr Strong let us down again ...
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when doesnt he
he is stuck in his ways with his all knowing self and is unwilling to listen to anyones views or learn anything
myself along with many others i know from another FB solar group have tried talking with him on something he has stated, and he will listen to no one
*sigh* its a sad thing to see
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I have to be honest, I have no clue what ultimately sets these things off for sure ....
 Quoting: TS66


I'm so far beneath these guys it's rediculus. but.
My background is 9 yr USAF Electronic Warfare and 6 yr civ.
Electrons flow toward protons. If there is no resistance between them, they explode to the extent of the least powerful of the two. This can be acheived by a wire, or filament. Plumbing works in a similar fashion.
Electromagnotism is like bringing a 3rd dimension into the picture. This shit with the sun and the earth is even more mind boggling (a 4th diminsion, perhaps). On this thread I'm a 2 dimensional guy in a 4 dimension world. What a THRILL!

wtf
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Well, you're light years ahead of me, I'm just getting a grasp on 2D myself. 3D, (AKA reality lol), sometimes scares me a little.

I'm sure if you hang here for a while we'll eventually have a much better understanding hf
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Looks like we just reached a 4.

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 4
Threshold Reached: 2012 Sep 02 2305 UTC
Synoptic Period: 2100-2400 UTC
Active Warning: Yes
Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.
 Quoting: TS66

To add to this, the official kp index at potsdam showing a Kp 5

[link to www-app3.gfz-potsdam.de]

DST staying around -30

[link to wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp]

definitely a storm going on right now, although still weak (for now)

let's see if it picks up more in the next 24 hours!
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I believe this is the one where they get an average from around the world.

[link to www.theusner.eu]
 Quoting: shenue

theusner.eu gets it's kp readings from the official kp index at potsdam (which i linked in my post). yeah the potsdam kp index is based on by far the most comprehensive global network of magnetometers.

noaa's kp estimate is also based on an international network, as is USAF's kp estimate. potsdam's network is just way bigger and more widespread, which makes sense since it is the official keeper of the Kp index.

although at the end of the day i prefer DST over Kp, myself! : )
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To resume the fantastic explanation of NiN:

Added 9/2/2012 @ 20:20 UTC
Southward Bz
The Bz component of the Interplanetary Magnetic Field (IMF) is currently tipped south and this could allow the solar wind to interact with Earth's magnetosphere. This may lead to increased geomagnetic activity at very high latitudes.

[link to www.solarham.net]

Thanks NiN...
hf
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The predictive models show the IMF should be North (+) now. NOAA and NASA seem to have dart-throwing chimps making their forecasts lately. By the way, whatever became of the 4 million MPH CME that supposed to slam us yesterday? At least the chimps work for bananas; the no-nothing Phd.'s are a festering, bottomless money pit.

The Rise of the Chimps, Part II will continue after this commercial.............

IMF 3-Day Model:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

More useless models here:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

bananaspeedbananbanana2deadbananasidewaysbdance
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Heya Hugh!
Headed out to the desert for a few days so im gonna miss some of the action, good to see you back here 'at work'
Peace and stay safe all
Nerd
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try to have a lot of fun and be safe Nerd
we will miss you not being around here, so do hurry back to us :)
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Heya Hugh!
Headed out to the desert for a few days so im gonna miss some of the action, good to see you back here 'at work'
Peace and stay safe all
Nerd
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Enjoy the piece, safe travels Nerd hf
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Freudian Slip?

5a
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


LMAO ... it's possible

Although as you may have noticed, I HAVE TO go back an edit almost every fricken thing I post, and it's getting worse and worse !!!
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i have to do the same exact thing!
i type so fast its as if im talking and i have so many oopsies that i have to fix after i hit post
andddd i just now noticed i have been posting everything this evening as a AC cause i was not signed in again
whats up with me getting logged out constantly today :/
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I have to be honest, I have no clue what ultimately sets these things off for sure ....
 Quoting: TS66


I'm so far beneath these guys it's rediculus. but.
My background is 9 yr USAF Electronic Warfare and 6 yr civ.
Electrons flow toward protons. If there is no resistance between them, they explode to the extent of the least powerful of the two. This can be acheived by a wire, or filament. Plumbing works in a similar fashion.
Electromagnotism is like bringing a 3rd dimension into the picture. This shit with the sun and the earth is even more mind boggling (a 4th diminsion, perhaps). On this thread I'm a 2 dimensional guy in a 4 dimension world. What a THRILL!

wtf
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Well, you're light years ahead of me, I'm just getting a grasp on 2D myself. 3D, (AKA reality lol), sometimes scares me a little.

I'm sure if you hang here for a while we'll eventually have a much better understanding hf
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Enjoy the piece, safe travels Nerd hf
 Quoting: TS66

Freudian Slip?

5a
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


LMAO ... it's possible

Although as you may have noticed, I HAVE TO go back an edit almost every fricken thing I post, and it's getting worse and worse !!!
 Quoting: TS66


i have to do the same exact thing!
i type so fast its as if im talking and i have so many oopsies that i have to fix after i hit post
andddd i just now noticed i have been posting everything this evening as a AC cause i was not signed in again
whats up with me getting logged out constantly today :/
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So nice to know I'm not the only one ... sometimes I look back at my posts and wonder if English was truly my first language.
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Enjoy the piece, safe travels Nerd hf
 Quoting: TS66

Freudian Slip?

5a
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


LMAO ... it's possible

Although as you may have noticed, I HAVE TO go back an edit almost every fricken thing I post, and it's getting worse and worse !!!
 Quoting: TS66


i have to do the same exact thing!
i type so fast its as if im talking and i have so many oopsies that i have to fix after i hit post
andddd i just now noticed i have been posting everything this evening as a AC cause i was not signed in again
whats up with me getting logged out constantly today :/
 Quoting: NiNzrez 12844841


You guys crack me up, some of my scatter brained post come out so screwy, I'm hitting edit before it hits the screen.

You guys are awesome
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I have to be honest, I have no clue what ultimately sets these things off for sure ....
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I'm so far beneath these guys it's rediculus. but.
My background is 9 yr USAF Electronic Warfare and 6 yr civ.
Electrons flow toward protons. If there is no resistance between them, they explode to the extent of the least powerful of the two. This can be acheived by a wire, or filament. Plumbing works in a similar fashion.
Electromagnotism is like bringing a 3rd dimension into the picture. This shit with the sun and the earth is even more mind boggling (a 4th diminsion, perhaps). On this thread I'm a 2 dimensional guy in a 4 dimension world. What a THRILL!

wtf
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Well, you're light years ahead of me, I'm just getting a grasp on 2D myself. 3D, (AKA reality lol), sometimes scares me a little.

I'm sure if you hang here for a while we'll eventually have a much better understanding hf
 Quoting: TS66


That's why I'm here. I seek Truth.
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


You got a great base of knowledge you're going to catch on quick. Its taken my biology based brain years to pick anything up, but its fun learning!
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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
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Freudian Slip?

5a
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LMAO ... it's possible

Although as you may have noticed, I HAVE TO go back an edit almost every fricken thing I post, and it's getting worse and worse !!!
 Quoting: TS66


i have to do the same exact thing!
i type so fast its as if im talking and i have so many oopsies that i have to fix after i hit post
andddd i just now noticed i have been posting everything this evening as a AC cause i was not signed in again
whats up with me getting logged out constantly today :/
 Quoting: NiNzrez 12844841

So nice to know I'm not the only one ... sometimes I look back at my posts and wonder if English was truly my first language.
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I was just scanning through posts and it hit me in the head.
That word is always a straight line. ( I joke alot). Meant no harm.
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[link to mms.rice.edu]

[link to mms.rice.edu]

wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

The Phi that Nin explained today has me a little concerned. We look wide open for connectivity.

Again up until just a little while ago ... headed North, and seems to staying there.

[link to www.solarham.net]
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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


We're wide open, anything is pretty much geo-effective at this point! 1560 has us at its mercy right now!

TS has pointed out that should be a registered BGD!

Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 09/02/2012 09:48 PM
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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: TS66


well we are not being hit yet.
with voltage flowing and the Bz just about full south. IMF is starting to push hard keeping Bz south.
if we were hit with a plasma mass now that field band would not look as nice as it does now....
we are not it....
we are just PRIMED for a bad time!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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I'm watching the incoming but more concerned about what, say, 1560 can do if our shields are down.
A good spurt can hit us in 18 hours.

note psyoptic's observations.

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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
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The Phi plot is a compass-based coordinate...001-360 degrees. So there is no negative Phi.
hf
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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

The Phi that Nin explained today has me a little concerned. We look wide open for connectivity.

Again up until just a little while ago ... headed North, and seems to staying there.

[link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: TS66


TS are are cracking me up???
i respond to your post then i read back....and there is more there?

i do that all the time too.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: TS66


well we are not being hit yet.
with voltage flowing and the Bz just about full south. IMF is starting to push hard keeping Bz south.
if we were hit with a plasma mass now that field band would not look as nice as it does now....
we are not it....
we are just PRIMED for a bad time!
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I just don't think there is a way to no for sure until it's here.
What is strange is the PCA on global D, but then again Bz is really south and we are vulnerable. It's just not apparent on the streamer.
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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

The Phi that Nin explained today has me a little concerned. We look wide open for connectivity.

Again up until just a little while ago ... headed North, and seems to staying there.

[link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: TS66


TS are are cracking me up???
i respond to your post then i read back....and there is more there?

i do that all the time too.
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I'm watching the incoming but more concerned about what, say, 1560 can do if our shields are down.
A good spurt can hit us in 18 hours.

note psyoptic's observations.
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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
 Quoting: TS66


The Phi plot is a compass-based coordinate...001-360 degrees. So there is no negative Phi.
hf
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye
So 180 would be ground zero, above +, below - ???

So we have been to the extreme negative all day ??

eee gads

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, Phi just clicked for me today too :shy: lol





GLP