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hmmmm you may be onto something here
maybe this would have something to do with why we see the solar warning for Sept 21 2012 NASA put out over a year ago?
we were all talking in here about this about a week ago

Will an observer falling into a black hole be able to witness all future events in the universe outside the black hole?

The normal presentation of these gravitational time dilation effects can lead one to a mistaken conclusion. It is true that if an observer (A) is stationary near the event horizon of a black hole, and a second observer (B) is stationary at great distance from the event horizon, then B will see A's clock to be ticking slow, and A will see B's clock to be ticking fast. But if A falls down toward the event horizon (eventually crossing it) while B remains stationary, then what each sees is not as straight forward as the above situation suggests.
As B sees things: A falls toward the event horizon, photons from A take longer and longer to climb out of the "gravtiational well" leading to the apparent slowing down of A's clock as seen by B, and when A is at the horizon, any photon emitted by A's clock takes (formally) an infinite time to get out to B. Imagine that each person's clock emits one photon for each tick of the clock, to make it easy to think about. Thus, A appears to freeze, as seen by B, just as you say. However, A has crossed the event horizon! It is only an illusion (literally an "optical" illusion) that makes B think A never crosses the horizon.

As A sees things: A falls, and crosses the horizon (in perhaps a very short time). A sees B's clock emitting photons, but A is rushing away from B, and so never gets to collect more than a finite number of those photons before crossing the event horizon. (If you wish, you can think of this as due to a cancellation of the gravitational time dilation by a doppler effect --- due to the motion of A away from B). After crossing the event horizon, the photons coming in from above are not easily sorted out by origin, so A cannot figure out how B's clock continued to tick.

A finite number of photons were emitted by A before A crossed the horizon, and a finite number of photons were emitted by B (and collected by A) before A crossed the horizon.

You might ask What if A were to be lowered ever so slowly toward the event horizon? Yes, then the doppler effect would not come into play, UNTIL, at some practical limit, A got too close to the horizon and would not be able to keep from falling in. Then A would only see a finite total of photons form B (but now a larger number --- covering more of B's time). Of course, if A "hung on" long enough before actually falling in, then A might see the future course of the universe.

Last Edited by Gabriel on 09/06/2012 12:54 PM

i am wondering if the Mayan cycle might have to do with our solar system passing through an area the energies will effect the bodies in our solar system....like the sun.

i am not really able to think there is a planet that will enter our solar system....

Okay, i took my meds.... back to lurking..

Ok.... You all have officially boggled my mind! (Honestly it doesn't take a lot for this effect)...

So- If I am following this correctly- There was a probe sent out 25 years ago by NASA to observe a wandering mini black hole... On the edge of this black hole, the probe, was able to record our Solar System's future and transmit this back to us!!

I missed last weeks conversation about NASA's Sept 21st Solar Flare warning- so I need to go back a few pages here... But Holy Moly!! If there were to be an ELE in our future - NASA knows!???????

I may be planning a big trip to COSTCO well before the 21st!!

Gabe- If you are still lurking here- Does this black hole have anything to do with the "Fluff?"

Overload !!!

Nibiru bebunked forever: [link to www.youtube.com]

First day of Fall/Autumn is September 22, 2012
Yom Kippur is September 25-26, 2012 (the Day of Atonement for the Jewish)
NASA warns of a solar event September 21/22, 2012

What else?

I still haven't seen anyone produce this NASA article where they warn of a solar event Sept 21 2012 : )

Hmm, WSO (hosted on stanford.edu) was supposed to post the new pole strength numbers today. I wonder if this 'maintenance' is responsible for todays no show.
Hopefully they post it tomorrow

best i could find [link to science.nasa.gov]

Thanks for the effort :) I think we can all agree that this is not an article predicting a solar event on Sept 21 2012!

"It is midnight on 22 September 2012 and the skies above Manhattan are filled with a flickering curtain of colorful light. Few New Yorkers have seen the aurora this far south but their fascination is short-lived. Within a few seconds, electric bulbs dim and flicker, then become unusually bright for a fleeting moment. Then all the lights in the state go out. Within 90 seconds, the entire eastern half of the US is without power.

A year later and millions of Americans are dead and the nation's infrastructure lies in tatters. The World Bank declares America a developing nation. Europe, Scandinavia, China and Japan are also struggling to recover from the same fateful event - a violent storm, 150 million kilometers away on the surface of the sun."

as we talk about NASA and Sept 21st...think how much time and effort NASA gives on a CME prediction, lots of updates...things that can change a CME greatly....so i do not see NASA giving the month and date of of an event would be coming without daily updates on this event.
look how they spent so much time updating the projected track of Elenin.
so here is the floated date, can not find the direct reference to a NASA article and not 1 update on the timing of this event.

all this being said we have brought up may good points here that need looking into.

where is the location on the sun that the solar activity pops off?

what could be the cause?

is it the leading side of the sun traveling through space?

is there a energy connection to some kind of body or energy source out in space?

is this part of a cycle that happens as the sun is traveling around the galaxy?

is there some unknown source for the first time entering our solar system?

and lastly....
Is this connected to the 12/12/2012 Mayan sun cycle calendar?

Last Edited by psyoptics on 09/06/2012 08:40 PM

This I am familiar with. That's from this [link to www.newscientist.com] (must pay for full article, only shows preview)

[link to www.armageddononline.org] (full text)

Which is based on this report "funded by NASA and issued by the US National Academy of Sciences (NAS)" [link to www.nap.edu] (downloadable for free)

I checked the report, no attempt to predict any dates of events. In fact the only mention of "2012" in the whole report is this:

"The DOD is striving to increase the sampling of the space weather environment for the coming solar maximum
(in 2011-2012)"

So basically what we have is NewScientist covering a report by NASA/NAS and in NewScientist's article they start off with a hypothetical story of a storm and pick an arbitrary date, which isn't based on anything in the research report. And people go to town with that.

This is why we need to be careful about spreading rumours. It takes a lot of work to debunk. All that said, it's good to be prepared in general, arbitrary specific dates notwithstanding! : )

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]

I've posted this article before on here about the earth responding to a flare with a pulse of its own. Just wondering what could be going on with the demise of earthside flares and maybe something internal with our planet or the environment surrounding earth.
I don't believe that our planet has the ability to counter any solar energy of our star. I'm just putting out there that maybe something is causing these weird reactions to both earth and sun! Just searching old info and for some reason I find myself coming back to this article.
There are so many new theories and revelations that are completely astounding.

When Physicist Ernest Rutherford started testing Alpha particles and firing Helium atoms at gold tinfoil he stated "Purely amazing,it was as if you were firing a 15lb. shell at tissue paper and it came back and hit you!"
Like Hugh said earlier, we just discovered bacteria 150 years ago! So much to be discovered!

Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 09/06/2012 08:32 PM

since the sun seems to be chillin at the momment at world destrution talk is goin on Thread: Time speeding up? Until point zero? Are we getting closer?

time has come. 15 beers deep, time for a stellar half-time FD!!



have a fun night, team sol.

peace and love,
paul

[link to solarstormwarning.com]

no date but 2012 in that one, still looking

Couldn't find anything with a date of Sept 21-22, 2012 either

Last Edited by WhiteAngel on 09/06/2012 08:50 PM

Looks like a little activity happening:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I've read it myself but can't remember when?

Darn it, flare dance only produced a c3.7 I'm out of practice, gonna meditate on this.

Yeah, don't get me wrong Gabe, I think an event is coming. I didn't investigate this because I think everything is going to be sunshine and roses in the next 10 years. I investigated it because if anything, I think these rumours hurt the preparation movement.

When we have arbitrary dates set and people freak out, and then nothing happens, that just increases the cynicism of the general public. People should be prepared for the grid to go down without any notice at all, they shouldn't wait for a prediction from NASA. Because frankly, they ain't gonna do us that favour.

Ha ha! I know! I keep refreshing the dang page!

1560 is till popping off Cs upon it's exit. [link to lasp.colorado.edu]

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NiNzrez
Hugh M Eye
TS66
psyoptics
SpiderJones
whiteangel
shadasonic
Gabriel
Luisport
mtn_mang
AkivaJeff
to all the "Anonymous Cowards"
and all others....
for all of the information about the sun and what I learned 30years ago in college to be mostly debunked. Keep up the great work! Every day gets better. This is like school all over again!


Last Edited by joinca on 09/06/2012 09:12 PM

Live (life to the fullest) till you die. You are going to anyway, prepped or not.