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Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/07/2012 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hugh, all your information was very helpful this evening, as always and I come away WAY better informed than I was. Thank you for all the effort. Quoting: Isis One agreed! But WTF? i return to a dead sun? :ahhhhhhh88: Hi Nerd!! Welcome back, we missed ya!! How was the bush? Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/07/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greets to you all. Quoting: mistersplinter Still trying to catch up so I hope that this wasn't already posted. Finally, a GRB [link to grb.sonoma.edu] Hi Mister! I was going to post it but then i was confused. I've been watching for a GRB for several weeks, since the supposed last one three weeks ago. But now, on the site in the data box, it says there was one on 8-30 and several other dates before that meaning its only just a week since we had one. Even 2 Min news guy announced it yesterday and said "first one in three weeks". Anyone know how often that chart is updated? Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/07/2012 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Complete loss of satellite signal despite it being a gorgeous day out. Quoting: TS66 Just popped in to see what was happening if anything, and I see .... nothing lol. Sat went out here too (NE PA) at same time, whaddup wit dat? Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/07/2012 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1564 is just a monster, I wonder if it will intensify while heading to Nin's Hot Spot ? Place yer bets! Quoting: SpiderJones I'm in for betting on Nin's corner. We've just seen it happen too much to just be a coincidence. I call M5+ before it waves goodbye. I call an X and we'll get a bit of a hit, just enough to advance us, not enough to harm us! Last Edited by Isis One on 09/07/2012 06:22 PM Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/07/2012 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another earthquake has hit Beverly Hills. Yahoo news said it was felt over a wide area. Quoting: Earth Cries 3.5 2012/09/07 07:03:10 34.073 -118.402 0.0 GREATER LOS ANGELES AREA, CALIFORNIA And China has had some large ones today with at least 43 people killed. [link to earthquake.usgs.gov] and Canada!!!! Im surprised no bidy here explains wheres that cme came from... that is morethant twice the size of the Sun.... People that looked at your link this morning weren't able to see the CME as that link updates constantly, so as the CME moves out of view the pictures no longer show it. I was here last night in time to see it though so no worries. Was a farside CME, fairly weak, here's the model for this buddy [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080] I could use a tutorial on how to grab a screenshot to avoid the updating issue. Also would like to know how to get those nice soho and lasco shots that Hugh posts. If its not too hard to describe maybe someone could do it here or point us somewhere that explains. I have mastered posting youtube vids!! Last Edited by Isis One on 09/07/2012 06:23 PM Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/07/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if all our amatuer sun watching/analysis hours (and mine are minimal compared to the rest here) qualifies us to work at NOAA??? Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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muse_1111 User ID: 18982829 United States 09/07/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ? Quoting: Gabriel [link to www.nasa.gov] I don't know how many were confirmed, but they did confirm a large one in the center of our Milkyway. |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/07/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just found this on the 'Haarp is down thread'. I have not seen this one before and like it better than the other TEC graph, others may too. [link to www.ips.gov.au] Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Gabriel User ID: 20206196 United States 09/07/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ? Quoting: Gabriel How many? Help us out here Batman. Dozens and they speculate thousands in our In ou galaxy....just loligaging about...... Have they admitted to finding primordial black holes? |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/07/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just saw this and wanted to add it for some of the 'out of the box' discussions here Last Edited by Isis One on 09/07/2012 07:06 PM Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 09/07/2012 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1564 is just a monster, I wonder if it will intensify while heading to Nin's Hot Spot ? Place yer bets! Quoting: SpiderJones It should have already,it developed days ago then stalled. It could have been a game changer spidey! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/07/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just saw this and wanted to add it for some of the 'out of the box' discussions here Quoting: Isis One Aaahh. So our sun is the putty ...... What's the magnet?..... ....and what would be the hand? Interested to see what others say.....let's 'jam' Last Edited by Isis One on 09/07/2012 07:57 PM Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 09/07/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More discussion on seeing the future.... Maybe why NASA can make some predictions on solar storm dates in the future?? Quoting: Gabriel Will an observer falling into a black hole be able to witness all future events in the universe outside the black hole? The normal presentation of these gravitational time dilation effects can lead one to a mistaken conclusion. It is true that if an observer (A) is stationary near the event horizon of a black hole, and a second observer (B) is stationary at great distance from the event horizon, then B will see A's clock to be ticking slow, and A will see B's clock to be ticking fast. But if A falls down toward the event horizon (eventually crossing it) while B remains stationary, then what each sees is not as straight forward as the above situation suggests. As B sees things: A falls toward the event horizon, photons from A take longer and longer to climb out of the "gravtiational well" leading to the apparent slowing down of A's clock as seen by B, and when A is at the horizon, any photon emitted by A's clock takes (formally) an infinite time to get out to B. Imagine that each person's clock emits one photon for each tick of the clock, to make it easy to think about. Thus, A appears to freeze, as seen by B, just as you say. However, A has crossed the event horizon! It is only an illusion (literally an "optical" illusion) that makes B think A never crosses the horizon. As A sees things: A falls, and crosses the horizon (in perhaps a very short time). A sees B's clock emitting photons, but A is rushing away from B, and so never gets to collect more than a finite number of those photons before crossing the event horizon. (If you wish, you can think of this as due to a cancellation of the gravitational time dilation by a doppler effect --- due to the motion of A away from B). After crossing the event horizon, the photons coming in from above are not easily sorted out by origin, so A cannot figure out how B's clock continued to tick. A finite number of photons were emitted by A before A crossed the horizon, and a finite number of photons were emitted by B (and collected by A) before A crossed the horizon. You might ask What if A were to be lowered ever so slowly toward the event horizon? Yes, then the doppler effect would not come into play, UNTIL, at some practical limit, A got too close to the horizon and would not be able to keep from falling in. Then A would only see a finite total of photons form B (but now a larger number --- covering more of B's time). Of course, if A "hung on" long enough before actually falling in, then A might see the future course of the universe. Bottom line: simply falling into a black hole won't give you a view of the entire future of the universe. Black holes can exist without being part of the final big crunch, and matter can fall into black holes. Hey Gabe!I was talking to a good friend of mine he's a bio-chemist with years of physics experience and I brought up some of your posts and he says you're dead on about the event horizon sequence and doesn't doubt one bit the experiment of guiding a satellite into a black hole. He added that the 'singularity' at the centre of a black hole occurs as the distortion becomes infinite,and at this point the known laws of physics no longer apply, we are beyond them. If general relativity sheds some light on where time comes from, it doesn't tell us what time is, and Einsteins general relativity is not the final answer to this equation.Relativity offers us no description or explanation for the extreme phnomena of our cosmos. Even the theory of quantum gravity eludes us at this point. I was very intrigued by your and his retorts,these are the type of discussions that get me 'going'. AWESOME STUFF!!!! Thought that I would post this here also as I added it to Gabes site! Good Stuff! Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 09/07/2012 08:41 PM “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973 Netherlands 09/07/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ? Quoting: Gabriel How many? Help us out here Batman. Hello,One and All! I hope everyone is Good : ) So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0. Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : ) Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!? Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity - [link to www.youtube.com] Just to play Devils Advocate. The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973 Netherlands 09/07/2012 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Edit. Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 09/07/2012 09:20 PM The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
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El Quisqueyano User ID: 23259615 United States 09/07/2012 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ? Quoting: Gabriel How many? Help us out here Batman. Hello,One and All! I hope everyone is Good : ) So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0. Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : ) Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!? Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity - [link to www.youtube.com] Just to play Devils Advocate. Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist? |
Gabriel User ID: 20206196 United States 09/07/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ? Quoting: Gabriel How many? Help us out here Batman. Hello,One and All! I hope everyone is Good : ) So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0. Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : ) Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!? Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity - [link to www.youtube.com] Just to play Devils Advocate. [/quote Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist? yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links |
Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973 Netherlands 09/07/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ? Quoting: Gabriel How many? Help us out here Batman. Hello,One and All! I hope everyone is Good : ) So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0. Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : ) Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!? Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity - [link to www.youtube.com] Just to play Devils Advocate. Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist? They are only hypothetical. The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973 Netherlands 09/07/2012 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello,One and All! I hope everyone is Good : ) So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0. Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : ) Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!? Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity - [link to www.youtube.com] Just to play Devils Advocate. [/quote Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist? yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links How would you define a Black Hole Gabe? The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
Gabriel User ID: 20206196 United States 09/07/2012 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Spittin'Cesium Hello,One and All! I hope everyone is Good : ) So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0. Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : ) Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!? Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity - [link to www.youtube.com] Just to play Devils Advocate. [/quote Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist? yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links How would you define a Black Hole Gabe? Is this a test? A black hole itself can't be seen but you can see its effects. How did I do? |
Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973 Netherlands 09/07/2012 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: El Quisqueyano yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links How would you define a Black Hole Gabe? Is this a test? A black hole itself can't be seen but you can see its effects. How did I do? Fine,if you want to toe the official line on 'Black Holes' : ) They say the Physics inside a Black Hole are completely different to those outside it yet it is claimed they Spin,Wander and Radiate energy back into the known Universe,ridiculous when you think about it! It's claimed that we understand the 'Gravitational Pull' of a object that does'nt even have the same basic Physics as the 'known Universe' yet they cannot even get the convection timescale correct for our closest Star!? Black Holes are just a cashcow that will pay for eternity because they will never see one or be able to explain how they are supposed to work. They are Hypothetical Mathematic Objects and not Physical,Scientific reality,Imo. The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
Gabriel User ID: 20206196 United States 09/07/2012 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this a test? A black hole itself can't be seen but you can see its effects. How did I do? Fine,if you want to toe the official line on 'Black Holes' : ) They say the Physics inside a Black Hole are completely different to those outside it yet it is claimed they Spin,Wander and Radiate energy back into the known Universe,ridiculous when you think about it! It's claimed that we understand the 'Gravitational Pull' of a object that does'nt even have the same basic Physics as the 'known Universe' yet they cannot even get the convection timescale correct for our closest Star!? Black Holes are just a cashcow that will pay for eternity because they will never see one or be able to explain how they are supposed to work. They are Hypothetical Mathematic Objects and not Physical,Scientific reality,Imo. If u think about it, names such as "black hole" are given to observed events and very difficult to explain because they are nothing but an area of immense gravity effecting it's surroundings. If I said the sun is also a black hole How would you disprove it. I probably just made no sense at all |
Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973 Netherlands 09/07/2012 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Spittin'Cesium Is this a test? A black hole itself can't be seen but you can see its effects. How did I do? Fine,if you want to toe the official line on 'Black Holes' : ) They say the Physics inside a Black Hole are completely different to those outside it yet it is claimed they Spin,Wander and Radiate energy back into the known Universe,ridiculous when you think about it! It's claimed that we understand the 'Gravitational Pull' of a object that does'nt even have the same basic Physics as the 'known Universe' yet they cannot even get the convection timescale correct for our closest Star!? Black Holes are just a cashcow that will pay for eternity because they will never see one or be able to explain how they are supposed to work. They are Hypothetical Mathematic Objects and not Physical,Scientific reality,Imo. If u think about it, names such as "black hole" are given to observed events and very difficult to explain because they are nothing but an area of immense gravity effecting it's surroundings. If I said the sun is also a black hole How would you disprove it. I probably just made no sense at all There can be no Gravity in a Black Hole. Gravity is a term used to describe a action of objects in the known Universe that obey known Physical principles! Did you watch the video Gabe? If not,do. Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 09/07/2012 10:44 PM The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973 Netherlands 09/07/2012 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Relativity is used to describe how a Black Hole supposedly forms yet if they were to exist they would disprove Relativity to begin with. The best example of evidence of a supposed Black Hole is the Jet being emmited from M87 yet the Jet itself as measured by Hubble is traveling at 6 times the Speed of Light! What is wrong with this picture!? The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |