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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24007870 United States 09/20/2012 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this the time where we finally break out of the cycle? Do we even want to break the cycle? |
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Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/20/2012 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mars and Saturn I think, visible a couple degrees from the cresent moon just after sunset in North America yesterday and maybe today. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
NiNzrez User ID: 12844841 United States 09/20/2012 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SpiderJones I thought the proton count was high, but is possible it is only from large coronal hole. [link to www.spaceweather.com] They are saying CH winds to hit the 22nd to the 23rd I know, this is weird, what is the source??? The non numbered coronal hole, the triangle fella almost at nins corner(60degree line) according to SWPC the only thing we have coming in is from the coronal hole winds Issued at 2200Z on 19 Sep 2012 IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to remain at quiet to unsettled levels for day one (20 September). An increase to quiet to unsettled levels with isolated active intervals is expected for days two and three (21 - 22 September) as a coronal hole high speed stream moves into a geoeffective position. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] also again lets not, they say: Issued at 2200Z on 19 Sep 2012 IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 18/2100Z to 19/2100Z: Solar activity was at low levels. New Region 1576 (S22E62) produced a few C-class flares, the largest a C2/Sf at 19/1512Z. Both Region 1576 and 1575 (N10E62) continue to rotate onto the disk and appear to have beta magnetic characteristics. No Earth-directed CMEs were detected during the period. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 09/20/2012 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AkivaJeff I could have sworn that SOHO said that nothing is heading our way. This begs to disagree. Interesting how density goes up on the chart for the 22nd, with nothing visible? That 22nd date again? Like Nin said a page back they give us 1 to 5% of their info. There has been nothing on the deterioration of ss earthside then going ballistic like 1564 has. This has happened time and time again, but I guarantee you they have an idea,its probably not good.The same reason they won't tell us why they've chemtrailed so hard today I literally can't see the sun, massive trails, its almost like you can feel it on you when you're out.It was supposed to be a completely clear day, how can people not see these things,or question them.@#$@%^&#@*(&%$#@@, now i've went and pissed myself off!!!!!!!!!!! LOL Where are you? Right now 20 miles north of Rolla near Jefferson City Mo., started off in Columbia. Sorry I did not answer sooner- side-tracked. I was just wondering where they were hitting the sky so hard. I live in No. Ca. and hardly ever see chem trails. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 09/20/2012 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The non numbered coronal hole, the triangle fella almost at nins corner(60degree line) according to SWPC the only thing we have coming in is from the coronal hole winds Issued at 2200Z on 19 Sep 2012 IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to remain at quiet to unsettled levels for day one (20 September). An increase to quiet to unsettled levels with isolated active intervals is expected for days two and three (21 - 22 September) as a coronal hole high speed stream moves into a geoeffective position. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] also again lets not, they say: Issued at 2200Z on 19 Sep 2012 IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 18/2100Z to 19/2100Z: Solar activity was at low levels. New Region 1576 (S22E62) produced a few C-class flares, the largest a C2/Sf at 19/1512Z. Both Region 1576 and 1575 (N10E62) continue to rotate onto the disk and appear to have beta magnetic characteristics. No Earth-directed CMEs were detected during the period. Yes, very energetic coronal hole becoming more geoeffective, The proton count was close to 10 c/cm just a while ago, and I thought I may have missed a CME, but it is the hole blowing a hot wind at us! |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 09/20/2012 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back to work, going out to inhale some barium and Al+++. At lest its a beautiful day. Peace to all! Quoting: shadasonic One other thought the shrinking of the magnetosphere could be in direct relation to the slow down of the geodynamo core,loss of electromagnetism......alright I'll say it pole flip. Lets say they are trailing this heavy for a medium size CH wind on the way, what are they going to do as the magsphere increasingly reduces and we start getting 'real' storms. Maybe they are just trying to get us through this max, or they know something big is transpiring and are doing all they can for now. The poles are increasing speed big time, maybe we need a flip for our magnetism to recharge. It would be nice to have just a little more info, but we gotta dig it up ourselves. Its a good thing we have such a unique diverse group of intelligent people on this thread, KUDOS to you all and I'm out for awhile! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24058416 United States 09/20/2012 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 09/20/2012 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil. Quoting: TS66 [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24058416 United States 09/20/2012 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil. Quoting: TS66 [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something. We had this conversation last night with no real idea. So which coronal hole did you think it originated from ??? We already got a blast last night resulting in kp4 without it showing up on Enlil or any other source (except for a vague references), yet this hit is coming from a CH and it is shown on Enlil since at least the 17th ??? Something doesn't make sense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12844841 United States 09/20/2012 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil. Quoting: TS66 [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something. They show CH winds on the Enlil model? |
muse_1111 User ID: 18982829 United States 09/20/2012 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm always curious to when they do/don't spray us. I am outside of Dallas, and I just walked outside to look. Not a single cloud in the sky. Why do they choose some areas and not others? They frequently lay chemtrails around Dallas, but none today?? They decided to let us fry... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24058416 United States 09/20/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil. Quoting: TS66 [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something. They show CH winds on the Enlil model? That's my question, I've never seen it before. |
NiNzrez User ID: 12844841 United States 09/20/2012 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil. Quoting: TS66 [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something. They show CH winds on the Enlil model? That's my question, I've never seen it before. either have i does someone have any old enlil model links for when there was a CH earth facing? i only seen CMEs on the enlil model before but its not my fav model, so i could be wrong here is a image i see on the 17th of a CME earth off to the left [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] i will need to go through info and images a bit better here in a few when i have time to sit and look busy time of the day here right now |
joinca User ID: 23928361 United States 09/20/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the SDO blog site: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 A "Jovial" Transit of Venus If you lived on Jupiter you would be able to see a transit of Venus tomorrow. It might look something like the one we saw in June. Here is an example in SDO AIA 171, a time-lapse still of the black disk of Venus moving across the Sun. Even though the transit can't be seen from Earth, the Hubble Space Telescope may be able to see the small decrease in sunlight reflected off Jupiter toward Earth during the transit. SDO will help by telling the scientists how the Sun's brightness changes during the transit. Given how quiet the Sun has been of late, that should be pretty easy for us to do. Jupiter is ahead of the Earth in its orbit around the Sun, so the quiet side is rotating to face Jupiter, even as a new active region rotates into the view of the Earth. First contact is at 0456 UTC, mid-transit is 0953 UTC and 4th contact is 1451 UTC (all September 20 UTC). That means the transit at Jupiter lasts almost 10 hours (compared to about 7.5 hours for the June 2012 Venus transit at Earth). The full article is here: [link to sdoisgo.blogspot.com] "The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 09/20/2012 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil. Quoting: TS66 [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something. They show CH winds on the Enlil model? That's my question, I've never seen it before. The model shows solar wind streams and CME's- this coronal hole is just very strong- and aimed at us more. I believe it's from the CH near the Solar equator. I HAVE been known to be wrong |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 09/20/2012 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the SDO blog site: Quoting: joinca Wednesday, September 19, 2012 A "Jovial" Transit of Venus If you lived on Jupiter you would be able to see a transit of Venus tomorrow. It might look something like the one we saw in June. Here is an example in SDO AIA 171, a time-lapse still of the black disk of Venus moving across the Sun. Even though the transit can't be seen from Earth, the Hubble Space Telescope may be able to see the small decrease in sunlight reflected off Jupiter toward Earth during the transit. SDO will help by telling the scientists how the Sun's brightness changes during the transit. Given how quiet the Sun has been of late, that should be pretty easy for us to do. Jupiter is ahead of the Earth in its orbit around the Sun, so the quiet side is rotating to face Jupiter, even as a new active region rotates into the view of the Earth. First contact is at 0456 UTC, mid-transit is 0953 UTC and 4th contact is 1451 UTC (all September 20 UTC). That means the transit at Jupiter lasts almost 10 hours (compared to about 7.5 hours for the June 2012 Venus transit at Earth). The full article is here: [link to sdoisgo.blogspot.com] Thanks! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 09/20/2012 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Top model shows density of solar output, bottom one shows speed, this model is usually right-on. It is easy to read which is why I like it. I have to go now, catch you all later. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24141573 United Kingdom 09/20/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are we still getting a constant hit from something at the moment??? For the last 2 days, the Northern lights have been over Iceland on the Katla webcam...Also, for the last 2 days, Iceland has been having a strong EQ swarm taking place.. [link to en.vedur.is] Could they be linked?? |
madajs User ID: 6377684 Canada 09/20/2012 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil. Quoting: TS66 [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something. They show CH winds on the Enlil model? That's my question, I've never seen it before. Yeah, Enlil models the solar wind streams (the spirals you can see imaged). You can see on the model how the spiral hitting us on the 22nd is far more dense than usual. Thus the spike in forecasted readings for that time. Also, the catch-all Enlil model is currently displaying one of those far side CME's. Looks pretty fast. [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080] And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24058416 United States 09/20/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SpiderJones Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something. They show CH winds on the Enlil model? That's my question, I've never seen it before. Yeah, Enlil models the solar wind streams (the spirals you can see imaged). You can see on the model how the spiral hitting us on the 22nd is far more dense than usual. Thus the spike in forecasted readings for that time. Also, the catch-all Enlil model is currently displaying one of those far side CME's. Looks pretty fast. [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080] Please indulge me and understand my confusion. We are most effected by the solar winds, density, and temp of a Coronal Hole as it faces earth, a direct influence so to speak. This spiral has been spinning for, and it's hit has been predicted by the Enlil model for at least 5 days, and without the Enlil models available prior to the 17th, we have no date of origin !!! So that would mean that this solar wind originated from a random CH as early as the 14th, 15th, or 16th ??? It just doesn't make sense. That is not typical of any Coronal Hole Solar Wind I have ever seen. If CH536 earth facing at this moment were to send solar winds right now they would be felt within 24 hours, not 6 or 7 days from now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24058416 United States 09/20/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This would explain yesterdays Kp4 according to the US Commerce Dept. IIA. Geophysical Activity Summary 19/2100Z to 20/2100Z: The geomagnetic field was at predominately quiet to unsettled levels with a period of active conditions observed between 19/2100 - 2400Z. The period began with wind speeds, as measured at the ACE spacecraft, steady at 400 km/s while the Bz component of the interplanetary magnetic field (IMF) was mostly south at about -10 nT. At about 19/2300Z, wind speed and temperature indicated slight increases while IMF Bz began fluctuating between +8 to -6 nT. By about 20/0100Z, the phi angle changed from a positive (away) to a negative (toward) orientation. These changes were all indicative of a co-rotating interaction region in advance of a coronal hole high speed stream. By the end of the period, wind velocities were steady at about 575 km/s while IMF Bz did not vary much beyond +/- 2 nT. |
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shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 09/20/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, Enlil models the solar wind streams (the spirals you can see imaged). You can see on the model how the spiral hitting us on the 22nd is far more dense than usual. Thus the spike in forecasted readings for that time. Also, the catch-all Enlil model is currently displaying one of those far side CME's. Looks pretty fast. [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080] Please indulge me and understand my confusion. We are most effected by the solar winds, density, and temp of a Coronal Hole as it faces earth, a direct influence so to speak. This spiral has been spinning for, and it's hit has been predicted by the Enlil model for at least 5 days, and without the Enlil models available prior to the 17th, we have no date of origin !!! So that would mean that this solar wind originated from a random CH as early as the 14th, 15th, or 16th ??? It just doesn't make sense. That is not typical of any Coronal Hole Solar Wind I have ever seen. If CH536 earth facing at this moment were to send solar winds right now they would be felt within 24 hours, not 6 or 7 days from now. I'm in agreement this just came out of nowhere and the density prediction is very high for a coronal hole and if we were to recieve this from 536 it would continue and not spike back up in 2 days? Seems very weird “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
madajs User ID: 6377684 Canada 09/20/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, Enlil models the solar wind streams (the spirals you can see imaged). You can see on the model how the spiral hitting us on the 22nd is far more dense than usual. Thus the spike in forecasted readings for that time. Also, the catch-all Enlil model is currently displaying one of those far side CME's. Looks pretty fast. [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080] Please indulge me and understand my confusion. We are most effected by the solar winds, density, and temp of a Coronal Hole as it faces earth, a direct influence so to speak. This spiral has been spinning for, and it's hit has been predicted by the Enlil model for at least 5 days, and without the Enlil models available prior to the 17th, we have no date of origin !!! So that would mean that this solar wind originated from a random CH as early as the 14th, 15th, or 16th ??? It just doesn't make sense. That is not typical of any Coronal Hole Solar Wind I have ever seen. If CH536 earth facing at this moment were to send solar winds right now they would be felt within 24 hours, not 6 or 7 days from now. :) Hey TS. I'm not sure I follow you. The stream that will hit us on the 22nd originates from the CH that is currently earth facing. Enlil offers us both a chart of the expected density as well as an animation showing the stream's approach to Earth. And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation." |
whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States 09/20/2012 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mars and Saturn I think, visible a couple degrees from the cresent moon just after sunset in North America yesterday and maybe today. [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Venus and Jupiter. Again, thank you Hugh for providing the link! Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24058416 United States 09/20/2012 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, Enlil models the solar wind streams (the spirals you can see imaged). You can see on the model how the spiral hitting us on the 22nd is far more dense than usual. Thus the spike in forecasted readings for that time. Also, the catch-all Enlil model is currently displaying one of those far side CME's. Looks pretty fast. [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080] Please indulge me and understand my confusion. We are most effected by the solar winds, density, and temp of a Coronal Hole as it faces earth, a direct influence so to speak. This spiral has been spinning for, and it's hit has been predicted by the Enlil model for at least 5 days, and without the Enlil models available prior to the 17th, we have no date of origin !!! So that would mean that this solar wind originated from a random CH as early as the 14th, 15th, or 16th ??? It just doesn't make sense. That is not typical of any Coronal Hole Solar Wind I have ever seen. If CH536 earth facing at this moment were to send solar winds right now they would be felt within 24 hours, not 6 or 7 days from now. :) Hey TS. I'm not sure I follow you. The stream that will hit us on the 22nd originates from the CH that is currently earth facing. Enlil offers us both a chart of the expected density as well as an animation showing the stream's approach to Earth. But the animation of density, wind and tempt that will hit on the 22nd begins and is shown on the 17th in the model. They cannot predict a hit of something specific that has not happened yet. Not to mention this is the same model they have had for a couple of days now, like we missed a CME or whatever it originated from. |
madajs User ID: 6377684 Canada 09/20/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: madajs Yeah, Enlil models the solar wind streams (the spirals you can see imaged). You can see on the model how the spiral hitting us on the 22nd is far more dense than usual. Thus the spike in forecasted readings for that time. Also, the catch-all Enlil model is currently displaying one of those far side CME's. Looks pretty fast. [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080] Please indulge me and understand my confusion. We are most effected by the solar winds, density, and temp of a Coronal Hole as it faces earth, a direct influence so to speak. This spiral has been spinning for, and it's hit has been predicted by the Enlil model for at least 5 days, and without the Enlil models available prior to the 17th, we have no date of origin !!! So that would mean that this solar wind originated from a random CH as early as the 14th, 15th, or 16th ??? It just doesn't make sense. That is not typical of any Coronal Hole Solar Wind I have ever seen. If CH536 earth facing at this moment were to send solar winds right now they would be felt within 24 hours, not 6 or 7 days from now. :) Hey TS. I'm not sure I follow you. The stream that will hit us on the 22nd originates from the CH that is currently earth facing. Enlil offers us both a chart of the expected density as well as an animation showing the stream's approach to Earth. But the animation of density, wind and tempt that will hit on the 22nd begins and is shown on the 17th in the model. They cannot predict a hit of something specific that has not happened yet. Correct me if I misunderstand, I'm still not 100% sure if we're on the same page. What I see is, the dense stream from this CH "spiralling" towards earth as the Sun rotates it towards us. The model, which begins 9-16 12:00, shows that the CH was already emitting a strong stream well before it came around to face earth directly. So it's not that it shot out a burst on the 16th that took until the 22nd to arrive. It's that it's been gushing nonstop since at least the 16th, and was still gushing when it became earth facing, so on the 22nd we're gonna get wet. :) And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation." |