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Found this interesting chart showing CMEs detected vs. Sunspot Number for Cycles 23 & 24. It appears the number of CMEs this cycle outnumber the last peak in 2000; but the SS# appears to be about 40% lower in cycle 24. More filaments perhaps?

Chart from CACTus in Belgium:
[link to sidc.oma.be]

On a conspiratorial note, the CACTus CME list "NOT FOUND ON THIS SERVER", although the homepage is accessible. Does this open for anyone else?

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

And the SEEDS Lasco-based CME list stopped on September 10. WTF? They do have a list from STEREO A & B updated yesterday. They used to have the SOHO image analysis posted within hour or two of a CME and were always well ahead of CACTus. Again, WTF?

[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]

It's not like fast food joints-a-plenty, these are the only 2 CME lists that I know of which are updated daily. Now EVE disappears with no "calibration mode" excuse posted. Are we heading into Solar Max with blinders on?

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Were not supposed to see it coming!
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HEY YOU GUYS!!

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I saw that earlier today and didn't know why the chart stopped. I've had so much trouble with sites the last two days I didn't follow through with it. Very interesting as the moscow site held a line for over five hours today, and the tera site and deleware site had large neutron spikes and then they were wiped off after ten minutes,very interesting and thanks White Eagle Feather!
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Those are from these recent GRB's;

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
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Those are from these recent GRB's;

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
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Agreed
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Those are from these recent GRB's;

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Agreed
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I have been keeping my eyes on these, as they can induce seismic activity. What I like to explain to folks is that they are point specific. There are many sensors spread through out the world. Cosmic rays can strike certain regions depending on where in space they are traveling from. Where ever the spike is then that is where in space they are coming from. They can effect both night and day sides. That is why you will see a spike in one region and complete flat line in all others. Seismic prone areas can be triggered by these ground reaching cosmic rays.

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For anyone interested I've tracked down the GOES 15 Fall 2012 eclipse schedule. I have a hard time deciphering the new charts they've concocted. Also note that GOES-14 is considered non-operational and classified as "in-orbit storage". In other words it's not being used currently as a weather satellite, so its eclipse times are not listed. As you probably know the GOES satellites are primarily weather imaging and sounding instruments. We're lucky that they measure x-rays and space-weather data at all.

GOES Fall Eclipse Schedules:

[link to www.ospo.noaa.gov]

GOES Satellites Operations Office:

[link to www.oso.noaa.gov]

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Those are from these recent GRB's;

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Agreed
 Quoting: whiteeaglefeather 14801310


You see the sudden return back to normal back ground readings in this chart?

[link to www.nmdb.eu]

That is clearly the energy from a GRB.
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For anyone interested I've tracked down the GOES 15 Fall 2012 eclipse schedule. I have a hard time deciphering the new charts they've concocted. Also note that GOES-14 is considered non-operational and classified as "in-orbit storage". In other words it's not being used currently as a weather satellite, so its eclipse times are not listed. As you probably know the GOES satellites are primarily weather imaging and sounding instruments. We're lucky that they measure x-rays and space-weather data at all.

GOES Fall Eclipse Schedules:

[link to www.ospo.noaa.gov]

GOES Satellites Operations Office:

[link to www.oso.noaa.gov]

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Thanks for that! Much needed
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Those are from these recent GRB's;

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Agreed
 Quoting: whiteeaglefeather 14801310


You see the sudden return back to normal back ground readings in this chart?

[link to www.nmdb.eu]

That is clearly the energy from a GRB.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks Q, figured they were. My minds thinking too much,had superwaves on my brain,but looked into it and realized they would trigger all sites and just not particular regions. Great info to delve into.

One thing thats interesting is GRBs usually decrease during solar max, yet we're seeing a slight increase. I guess most of it depends on how much energy the sun is letting out and we've been a little slow!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Those are from these recent GRB's;

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Agreed
 Quoting: whiteeaglefeather 14801310


You see the sudden return back to normal back ground readings in this chart?

[link to www.nmdb.eu]

That is clearly the energy from a GRB.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks Q, figured they were. My minds thinking too much,had superwaves on my brain,but looked into it and realized they would trigger all sites and just not particular regions. Great info to delve into.

One thing thats interesting is GRBs usually decrease during solar max, yet we're seeing a slight increase. I guess most of it depends on how much energy the sun is letting out and we've been a little slow!
 Quoting: shadasonic


There one day will be a super wave that will blow the charts off them graphs, most of earth will be destroyed. Cosmic Ray Burst can be deadly to planets. There is evidence of this having occurred here in the past.
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Hello everyone : )

I've just been reading through some of the(many)pages since I was last in here(still got 5 to go!) - Thought I'd take a break to post this Sim. of our Magnetic Fields of the last 150 Updates [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] <--- It begins around 11:00am on the 23rd,you can see that for the majority of the time the Closed Field(in Red)has been pulled out behind us instead of its' usual tightly bound position closer to the Earth - I know we are expecting to have encountered CH Streams but this did'nt just begin at the time I started the Sim. to run according to here [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] it's been going on from around 04:33am UT on the 23rd - It's a little strange because the By/Bz do not really show too much deviation from the 'Norm'.

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Hello everyone : )

I've just been reading through some of the(many)pages since I was last in here(still got 5 to go!) - Thought I'd take a break to post this Sim. of our Magnetic Fields of the last 150 Updates [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] <--- It begins around 11:00am on the 23rd,you can see that for the majority of the time the Closed Field(in Red)has been pulled out behind us instead of its' usual tightly bound position closer to the Earth - I know we are expecting to have encountered CH Streams but this did'nt just begin at the time I started the Sim. to run according to here [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] it's been going on from around 04:33am UT on the 23rd - It's a little strange because the By/Bz do not really show too much deviation from the 'Norm'.
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Hi SC hi

Thanks for the info

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Hello everyone : )

I've just been reading through some of the(many)pages since I was last in here(still got 5 to go!) - Thought I'd take a break to post this Sim. of our Magnetic Fields of the last 150 Updates [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] <--- It begins around 11:00am on the 23rd,you can see that for the majority of the time the Closed Field(in Red)has been pulled out behind us instead of its' usual tightly bound position closer to the Earth - I know we are expecting to have encountered CH Streams but this did'nt just begin at the time I started the Sim. to run according to here [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] it's been going on from around 04:33am UT on the 23rd - It's a little strange because the By/Bz do not really show too much deviation from the 'Norm'.
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Hi SC hi

Thanks for the info

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Hello there Tink : )

It's no problem - I noticed a thread about a GRB so I thought I'd check out(just in case)the images of our Magnetosphere/Fields to see what/if any effects there may have been and just happened across our continued wibbly wobbly Magnetic Fields on this site [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] .

Hope you are Good.

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Agreed
 Quoting: whiteeaglefeather 14801310


You see the sudden return back to normal back ground readings in this chart?

[link to www.nmdb.eu]

That is clearly the energy from a GRB.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks Q, figured they were. My minds thinking too much,had superwaves on my brain,but looked into it and realized they would trigger all sites and just not particular regions. Great info to delve into.

One thing thats interesting is GRBs usually decrease during solar max, yet we're seeing a slight increase. I guess most of it depends on how much energy the sun is letting out and we've been a little slow!
 Quoting: shadasonic


There one day will be a super wave that will blow the charts off them graphs, most of earth will be destroyed. Cosmic Ray Burst can be deadly to planets. There is evidence of this having occurred here in the past.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hello Q : )

Is there evidence of GRB created Catastrophe here on Earth!?

I know that it is highly plausible,can you or anyone else here point me in the correct direction to read about this please : )

Edit:Bloody spelling.

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Hello everyone : )

I've just been reading through some of the(many)pages since I was last in here(still got 5 to go!) - Thought I'd take a break to post this Sim. of our Magnetic Fields of the last 150 Updates [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] <--- It begins around 11:00am on the 23rd,you can see that for the majority of the time the Closed Field(in Red)has been pulled out behind us instead of its' usual tightly bound position closer to the Earth - I know we are expecting to have encountered CH Streams but this did'nt just begin at the time I started the Sim. to run according to here [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] it's been going on from around 04:33am UT on the 23rd - It's a little strange because the By/Bz do not really show too much deviation from the 'Norm'.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I was hoping you'd come back to this! Everything seems odd. Many sites are down, or are dropping info, and we've got very odd simulations. You're better with the magnetosphere than I am. Think alot of things are so closely related,but like Nin has said along with so many viable posters, we're given only the smallest amount of info. I can't help out tonight as I've got a huge workload tomorrow, but will see you guys at times tomorrow. Interested to see the take on this from some colleagues that are into this as much as I am.

Peace sunbrother!

Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 09/23/2012 10:37 PM
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You see the sudden return back to normal back ground readings in this chart?

[link to www.nmdb.eu]

That is clearly the energy from a GRB.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks Q, figured they were. My minds thinking too much,had superwaves on my brain,but looked into it and realized they would trigger all sites and just not particular regions. Great info to delve into.

One thing thats interesting is GRBs usually decrease during solar max, yet we're seeing a slight increase. I guess most of it depends on how much energy the sun is letting out and we've been a little slow!
 Quoting: shadasonic


There one day will be a super wave that will blow the charts off them graphs, most of earth will be destroyed. Cosmic Ray Burst can be deadly to planets. There is evidence of this having occurred here in the past.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hello Q : )

Is there evidence of GRB created Catastrophe here on Earth!?

I know that it is highly plausible,do you or anyone else here pint me in the correct direction to read about this please : )
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


None that I have found, just speculations.
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Thanks Q, figured they were. My minds thinking too much,had superwaves on my brain,but looked into it and realized they would trigger all sites and just not particular regions. Great info to delve into.

One thing thats interesting is GRBs usually decrease during solar max, yet we're seeing a slight increase. I guess most of it depends on how much energy the sun is letting out and we've been a little slow!
 Quoting: shadasonic


There one day will be a super wave that will blow the charts off them graphs, most of earth will be destroyed. Cosmic Ray Burst can be deadly to planets. There is evidence of this having occurred here in the past.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hello Q : )

Is there evidence of GRB created Catastrophe here on Earth!?

I know that it is highly plausible,do you or anyone else here pint me in the correct direction to read about this please : )
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


None that I have found, just speculations.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


But I think, due to recent events, that we will most likely find this out in our life time.
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Those are from these recent GRB's;

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Agreed
 Quoting: whiteeaglefeather 14801310


You see the sudden return back to normal back ground readings in this chart?

[link to www.nmdb.eu]

That is clearly the energy from a GRB.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks Q, figured they were. My minds thinking too much,had superwaves on my brain,but looked into it and realized they would trigger all sites and just not particular regions. Great info to delve into.

One thing thats interesting is GRBs usually decrease during solar max, yet we're seeing a slight increase. I guess most of it depends on how much energy the sun is letting out and we've been a little slow!
 Quoting: shadasonic


I wonder what the correlation may be to Solar Max?

Perhaps it may be due to a reduced Heliosphere during a Solar Minimum(This is only my ponderings not Science fact)that allows for more GRBs' to be directly measured and during Solar Max the overall noise from our Star and the increased energies toward the edges of the Heliosphere don't allow for the best conditions to detect the GRBs'.

Though this may not be correct at all : )

GRBs' afterall are extremely energetic events,and should be able to be picked up most all the time - Esp. considering that during March this Year when our own Sun let of a X 5.4 Flare it also produced its' very own Gamma-Ray Burst which lasted for about 20 Hours and made our Star appear as the Brightest Object in the Gamma-Ray Skies,briefly.

Here's the image of the event for those that missed it [link to 4.bp.blogspot.com] .

Anyhoo' - Hello Shadaflower

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There one day will be a super wave that will blow the charts off them graphs, most of earth will be destroyed. Cosmic Ray Burst can be deadly to planets. There is evidence of this having occurred here in the past.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hello Q : )

Is there evidence of GRB created Catastrophe here on Earth!?

I know that it is highly plausible,do you or anyone else here pint me in the correct direction to read about this please : )
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


None that I have found, just speculations.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


But I think, due to recent events, that we will most likely find this out in our life time.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Oh crackers.
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I wonder if we'll smell like Bacon when that happens Q?

Is so,the Apocolypse will at least smell like a Full English Breakfast : )

So remember Children - Next time you smell Bacon duck and cover,if nothing happens then stand and continue on to your closest Sammich Outlet.
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I wonder if we'll smell like Bacon when that happens Q?

Is so,the Apocolypse will at least smell like a Full English Breakfast : )

So remember Children - Next time you smell Bacon duck and cover,if nothing happens then stand and continue on to your closest Sammich Outlet.
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LOL
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This one comes to mind...
Gamma-Ray Burst Caused Mass Extinction?
Anne Minard for National Geographic News April 3, 2009
A brilliant burst of gamma rays may have caused a mass extinction event on Earth 440 million years ago—and a similar celestial catastrophe could happen again, according to a new study.
Most gamma-ray bursts are thought to be streams of high-energy radiation produced when the core of a very massive star collapses.
The new computer model shows that a gamma-ray burst aimed at Earth could deplete the ozone layer, cause acid rain, and initiate a round of global cooling from as far as 6,500 light-years away.
The full article is here: [link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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This one comes to mind...
Gamma-Ray Burst Caused Mass Extinction?
Anne Minard for National Geographic News April 3, 2009
A brilliant burst of gamma rays may have caused a mass extinction event on Earth 440 million years ago—and a similar celestial catastrophe could happen again, according to a new study.
Most gamma-ray bursts are thought to be streams of high-energy radiation produced when the core of a very massive star collapses.
The new computer model shows that a gamma-ray burst aimed at Earth could deplete the ozone layer, cause acid rain, and initiate a round of global cooling from as far as 6,500 light-years away.
The full article is here: [link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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I do hope then that the 20 Hour long Gamma-Ray Burst emited from our own Sun did'nt signal the beginning of the collapse of its' Core [link to www.nasa.gov] [link to www.nasa.gov] .

That would'nt be too cool would it!?

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For all the 'Galactic Plainers' - You can tell from this image [link to www.nasa.gov] that we are not about to cross the GP,you can clearly see that the Sun is at least a good Inch below the ecliptic,and that is from NASA.
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Like you said above:
So remember Children - Next time you smell Bacon duck and cover,if nothing happens then stand and continue on to your closest Sammich Outlet.
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I just spent the past 5-days reading this thread......

FUCK YOU!!!
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09/24/2012 01:17 AM
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
I just spent the past 5-days reading this thread......

FUCK YOU!!!
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09/24/2012 02:14 AM
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
For all the 'Galactic Plainers' - You can tell from this image [link to www.nasa.gov] that we are not about to cross the GP,you can clearly see that the Sun is at least a good Inch below the ecliptic,and that is from NASA.
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NASA is not trustworthy. Sorry, but if its between ETs and NASA, I'm going to go with the ETs, since they're millions of years in the space-faring business while we haven't yet been anywhere on a spaceship to verify with our own eyes.
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09/24/2012 02:44 AM

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
New sunspot region barely visible on the far east limb

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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