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hope everyone is having a wonderful day!!
it's a beautiful day here with the sun out and shining
1st time i have seen the sun in a few weeks
what a nice gift :)

now to go cook for all these hungry people haha
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Have a great day , much Love to you Nin!

This is pretty interesting

[link to www.indianexpress.com]
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Hi Shad, I knew about the ISON comet but not the gas cloud due to slam into the sag black hole, jeeezzz!!! Glad you got to relax today.banana2
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Thanks Sis, and the black hole info was new to me also. Nice to chill with no work or travels for almost a week. I picked up a new telescope I'm going to have fun with after the setup, much love and respect!
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Interesting view of this huge storm system as it magically appears out of nothing. This is from the GOES 13 visible light movie-

[link to goes.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Here's their page:

[link to goes.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Yeah, I just heard at dinner today at friend's house, about all the snow we're supposed to get (NE PA) and I was like, what??? I know I saw the weather a day or so ago, didn't see any mention of snow beyond a possible snow shower.

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[link to weather.rap.ucar.edu]
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Thanks Geo, that's a great map, I saved it.
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

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We have two new regions in the east now, 1636 and an un-numbered region in the south.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 361 Issued at 0030Z on 26 Dec 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 25 Dec
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 25/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1633 S08W68 114 0040 Dso 04 02 Beta
1635 N11W17 063 0270 Dac 09 22 Beta-Gamma
1636 N13E59 347 0010 Bxo 04 04 Beta
IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 25/2400Z Dec
Nmbr Location Lo
1634 S13W60 109
II. Regions Due to Return 26 Dec to 28 Dec
Nmbr Lat Lo
None
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Latest HMI Intensitygram:

[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]

.24 hr Summary...
Solar activity was at low levels. Region 1635 (N11W17) produced a few
C-class flares, the largest a C4/Sf at 25/1304 UTC. SDO Intensitygram
imagery indicated Region 1635 experienced movement in its intermediate
spots and growth in the trailer spots. At 25/1039 UTC, a C1 x-ray event
was observed from an area of enhanced emission just beyond the SE limb.

New Region 1636 (N13E59) was numbered as a simple bipolar group. CME
activity was observed off both the east and west limbs during the
period. None of the CMEs appear to have Earth-directed components.

more at NOAA Discussion:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

New Region and Dripping Blob-
:blob-drip:
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Excellent video by SO regarding cme's, he explains the science well for those of us still sliding on the learning curve.
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We have two new regions in the east now, 1636 and an un-numbered region in the south.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 361 Issued at 0030Z on 26 Dec 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 25 Dec
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 25/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1633 S08W68 114 0040 Dso 04 02 Beta
1635 N11W17 063 0270 Dac 09 22 Beta-Gamma
1636 N13E59 347 0010 Bxo 04 04 Beta
IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 25/2400Z Dec
Nmbr Location Lo
1634 S13W60 109
II. Regions Due to Return 26 Dec to 28 Dec
Nmbr Lat Lo
None
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Latest HMI Intensitygram:

[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]

.24 hr Summary...
Solar activity was at low levels. Region 1635 (N11W17) produced a few
C-class flares, the largest a C4/Sf at 25/1304 UTC. SDO Intensitygram
imagery indicated Region 1635 experienced movement in its intermediate
spots and growth in the trailer spots. At 25/1039 UTC, a C1 x-ray event
was observed from an area of enhanced emission just beyond the SE limb.

New Region 1636 (N13E59) was numbered as a simple bipolar group. CME
activity was observed off both the east and west limbs during the
period. None of the CMEs appear to have Earth-directed components.

more at NOAA Discussion:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

New Region and Dripping Blob-
:blob-drip:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Thanks Hue for all you do on this thread.
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Great info tonight everyone, thanks Hugh, Shad, Isis, Nin and all!

It was a lovely Christmas Day and the bonus is to check in with the Solar family and get these 'gifts' of knowledge and shared info makes it even better!

Good night everyone, you're a special crew!
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Speaking of the weather and Galactic Cosmic Rays, the IPCC's (the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) 5th Assessment Report has been leaked worldwide on the internet. The leaker's evaluation of the data points to a bigger Solar/GCR influence on climate than man-made fuels or cow farts.

*The IPCC’s (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s) 5th Assessment Report due for release in September of 2013, has now been leaked publicly over 9 months in advance on an internet publication called “Stop Green Suicide“.
One of the reports 800 expert reviewers, a man by the name of Alex Rawls, apparently leaked the report and is backing it with written evidence that cosmic rays are actually the cause of climate change and warming patterns, thus possibly blowing the lid off the whole entire global warming fraud pushed by figureheads such as Al Gore and others.


This is from the Leaker's analysis:

**Lead story from the Second Order Draft: strong evidence for solar forcing beyond TSI now acknowledged by IPCC

Compared to the First Order Draft, the SOD now adds the following sentence, indicated in bold (page 7-43, lines 1-5, emphasis added):

Many empirical relationships have been reported between GCR or cosmogenic isotope archives and some aspects of the climate system (e.g., Bond et al., 2001; Dengel et al., 2009; Ram and Stolz, 1999). The forcing from changes in total solar irradiance alone does not seem to account for these observations, implying the existence of an amplifying mechanism such as the hypothesized GCR-cloud link. We focus here on observed relationships between GCR and aerosol and cloud properties.

The Chapter 7 authors are admitting strong evidence ("many empirical relationships") for enhanced solar forcing (forcing beyond total solar irradiance, or TSI), even if they don't know what the mechanism is. This directly undercuts the main premise of the report, as stated in Chapter 8 (page 8-4, lines 54-57):

There is very high confidence that natural forcing is a small fraction of the anthropogenic forcing. In particular, over the past three decades (since 1980), robust evidence from satellite observations of the TSI and volcanic aerosols demonstrate a near-zero (–0.04 W m–2) change in the natural forcing compared to the anthropogenic AF increase of ~1.0 ± 0.3 W m–2.

The Chapter 8 authors (a different group than the Chapter 7 authors) are explicit here that their claim about natural forcing being small compared to anthropogenic forcing is based on an analysis in which the only solar forcing that is taken into account is TSI. This can be verified from the radiative forcing table on page 8-39 where the only solar variable included in the IPCC's computer models is seen to be "solar irradiance."

This analysis, where post-1980 warming gets attributed to the human release of CO2 on the grounds that it cannot be attributed to solar irradiance, cannot stand in the face of the Chapter 7 admission of substantial evidence for solar forcing beyond solar irradiance. Once the evidence for enhanced solar forcing is taken into account we can have no confidence that natural forcing is small compared to anthropogenic forcing.

The Chapter 8 premise that natural forcing is relatively small leads directly to the main conclusion of the entire report, stated in the first sentence of the Executive Summary (the very first sentence of the entire report): that advances since AR4 "further strengthen the basis for human activities being the primary driver in climate change" (p.1-2, lines 3-5). This headline conclusion is a direct descendant of the assumption that the only solar forcing is TSI, a claim that their own report no longer accepts.

The report still barely hints at the mountain of evidence for enhanced solar forcing, or the magnitude of the evidenced effect. Dozens of studies (section two here) have found between a .4 and .7 degree of correlation between solar activity and various climate indices, suggesting that solar activity "explains" in the statistical sense something like half of all past temperature change, very little of which could be explained by the very slight variation in TSI. At least the Chapter 7 team is now being explicit about what this evidence means: that some mechanism of enhanced solar forcing must be at work.

Complete Leaked 5th Assessment Report w/ analysis:

[link to stopgreensuicide.com]

This is pretty huge! This should be a page one pinned thread. In brief, they're saying (on one hand) that Global Warming is still our fault; while (on the other hand) their evidence is proof that unknown solar and cosmic factors are a much bigger influence. Oh well, now the cover-up can begin, LOL.
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I wonder, has anyone posed the correlation between GCR flux, and cloud condensation nuclei seeding / chem trail dispersal?
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Good Morning. I hope everyone is doing really well today.

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Speaking of the weather and Galactic Cosmic Rays, the IPCC's (the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) 5th Assessment Report has been leaked worldwide on the internet. The leaker's evaluation of the data points to a bigger Solar/GCR influence on climate than man-made fuels or cow farts.

*The IPCC’s (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s) 5th Assessment Report due for release in September of 2013, has now been leaked publicly over 9 months in advance on an internet publication called “Stop Green Suicide“.
One of the reports 800 expert reviewers, a man by the name of Alex Rawls, apparently leaked the report and is backing it with written evidence that cosmic rays are actually the cause of climate change and warming patterns, thus possibly blowing the lid off the whole entire global warming fraud pushed by figureheads such as Al Gore and others.


This is from the Leaker's analysis:

**Lead story from the Second Order Draft: strong evidence for solar forcing beyond TSI now acknowledged by IPCC

Compared to the First Order Draft, the SOD now adds the following sentence, indicated in bold (page 7-43, lines 1-5, emphasis added):

Many empirical relationships have been reported between GCR or cosmogenic isotope archives and some aspects of the climate system (e.g., Bond et al., 2001; Dengel et al., 2009; Ram and Stolz, 1999). The forcing from changes in total solar irradiance alone does not seem to account for these observations, implying the existence of an amplifying mechanism such as the hypothesized GCR-cloud link. We focus here on observed relationships between GCR and aerosol and cloud properties.

The Chapter 7 authors are admitting strong evidence ("many empirical relationships") for enhanced solar forcing (forcing beyond total solar irradiance, or TSI), even if they don't know what the mechanism is. This directly undercuts the main premise of the report, as stated in Chapter 8 (page 8-4, lines 54-57):

There is very high confidence that natural forcing is a small fraction of the anthropogenic forcing. In particular, over the past three decades (since 1980), robust evidence from satellite observations of the TSI and volcanic aerosols demonstrate a near-zero (–0.04 W m–2) change in the natural forcing compared to the anthropogenic AF increase of ~1.0 ± 0.3 W m–2.

The Chapter 8 authors (a different group than the Chapter 7 authors) are explicit here that their claim about natural forcing being small compared to anthropogenic forcing is based on an analysis in which the only solar forcing that is taken into account is TSI. This can be verified from the radiative forcing table on page 8-39 where the only solar variable included in the IPCC's computer models is seen to be "solar irradiance."

This analysis, where post-1980 warming gets attributed to the human release of CO2 on the grounds that it cannot be attributed to solar irradiance, cannot stand in the face of the Chapter 7 admission of substantial evidence for solar forcing beyond solar irradiance. Once the evidence for enhanced solar forcing is taken into account we can have no confidence that natural forcing is small compared to anthropogenic forcing.

The Chapter 8 premise that natural forcing is relatively small leads directly to the main conclusion of the entire report, stated in the first sentence of the Executive Summary (the very first sentence of the entire report): that advances since AR4 "further strengthen the basis for human activities being the primary driver in climate change" (p.1-2, lines 3-5). This headline conclusion is a direct descendant of the assumption that the only solar forcing is TSI, a claim that their own report no longer accepts.

The report still barely hints at the mountain of evidence for enhanced solar forcing, or the magnitude of the evidenced effect. Dozens of studies (section two here) have found between a .4 and .7 degree of correlation between solar activity and various climate indices, suggesting that solar activity "explains" in the statistical sense something like half of all past temperature change, very little of which could be explained by the very slight variation in TSI. At least the Chapter 7 team is now being explicit about what this evidence means: that some mechanism of enhanced solar forcing must be at work.

Complete Leaked 5th Assessment Report w/ analysis:

[link to stopgreensuicide.com]

This is pretty huge! This should be a page one pinned thread. In brief, they're saying (on one hand) that Global Warming is still our fault; while (on the other hand) their evidence is proof that unknown solar and cosmic factors are a much bigger influence. Oh well, now the cover-up can begin, LOL.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


I wonder, has anyone posed the correlation between GCR flux, and cloud condensation nuclei seeding / chem trail dispersal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28353201


Some interesting research I scrounged up.

"GALACTIC COSMIC RAYS – CLOUDS EFFECT AND BIFURCATION MODEL OF THE EARTH GLOBAL CLIMATE. PART 1. THEORY

In aerosol physics of cloud formation there are now profound and insuperable, at the first sight contradictions caused by the anomalous low efficiency of “ion-aerosol clear-air mechanism” for nucleation of the sufficient number of condensation nuclei in an atmosphere. In spite
of this, many researchers have serious reasons to consider that galactic cosmic rays play one of key roles in the mechanisms of the weather and climate formation at our planet/"

[link to arxiv.org]
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Again, don't want to step on any toes. Just posting this...helping out...until our regular 2/3 min news posters are back.


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Again, don't want to step on any toes. Just posting this...helping out...until our regular 2/3 min news posters are back.


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You have been around for quite awhile. I believe you've earned the ability to post whatever your heart desireshf
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Here are the great links for the SO video:
12-26-2012
REPEAT LINKS:
WORLD WEATHER:
NDBC Buoys: [link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]
Tropical Storms: [link to www.wunderground.com]
HurricaneZone Satellite Images: [link to www.hurricanezone.net]
Weather Channel: [link to www.weather.com]
NOAA Environmental Visualization Laboratory: [link to www.nnvl.noaa.gov]
Pressure Maps: [link to www.woweather.com]
Satellite Maps: [link to www.woweather.com]
Forecast Maps: [link to www.woweather.com]
EL DORADO WORLD WEATHER MAP: [link to www.eldoradocountyweather.com]
TORCON: [link to www.weather.com] [Tornado Forecast for the day]
HURRICANE TRACKER: [link to www.weather.com]

US WEATHER:
Precipitation Totals: [link to www.cocorahs.org]
GOES Satellites: [link to rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov]
THE WINDMAP: [link to hint.fm]
Severe Weather Threats: [link to www.weather.com]
Canada Weather Office Satellite Composites: [link to www.weatheroffice.gc.ca]
Temperature Delta: [link to www.intellicast.com]
Records/Extremes: [link to www.ncdc.noaa.gov]

SPACEWEATHER:
Spaceweather: [link to spaceweather.com]
SOHO Solar Wind: [link to umtof.umd.edu]
HAARP Data Meters: [link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]
Planetary Orbital Diagram - Ceres1 JPL: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
SDO: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Helioviewer: [link to www.helioviewer.org]
SOHO: [link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]
Stereo: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
SOLARIMG: [link to solarimg.org]
iSWA: [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
NASA ENLIL SPIRAL: [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
NOAA ENLIL SPIRAL: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
GOES Xray: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Gamma Ray Bursts: [link to grb.sonoma.edu]
BARTOL Cosmic Rays: [link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]
ISWA: [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
NOAA Sunspot Classifications: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
GONG: [link to gong2.nso.edu]

MISC Links:
JAPAN Radiation Map: [link to jciv.iidj.net]
RADIATION Network: [link to radiationnetwork.com]
LISS: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
QUAKES LIST FULL: [link to www.emsc-csem.org]
RSOE: [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] [That cool alert map I use]
Moon: [link to www.fourmilab.ch]
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Speaking of the weather and Galactic Cosmic Rays, the IPCC's (the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) 5th Assessment Report has been leaked worldwide on the internet. The leaker's evaluation of the data points to a bigger Solar/GCR influence on climate than man-made fuels or cow farts.

*The IPCC’s (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s) 5th Assessment Report due for release in September of 2013, has now been leaked publicly over 9 months in advance on an internet publication called “Stop Green Suicide“.
One of the reports 800 expert reviewers, a man by the name of Alex Rawls, apparently leaked the report and is backing it with written evidence that cosmic rays are actually the cause of climate change and warming patterns, thus possibly blowing the lid off the whole entire global warming fraud pushed by figureheads such as Al Gore and others.


This is from the Leaker's analysis:

**Lead story from the Second Order Draft: strong evidence for solar forcing beyond TSI now acknowledged by IPCC

Compared to the First Order Draft, the SOD now adds the following sentence, indicated in bold (page 7-43, lines 1-5, emphasis added):

Many empirical relationships have been reported between GCR or cosmogenic isotope archives and some aspects of the climate system (e.g., Bond et al., 2001; Dengel et al., 2009; Ram and Stolz, 1999). The forcing from changes in total solar irradiance alone does not seem to account for these observations, implying the existence of an amplifying mechanism such as the hypothesized GCR-cloud link. We focus here on observed relationships between GCR and aerosol and cloud properties.

The Chapter 7 authors are admitting strong evidence ("many empirical relationships") for enhanced solar forcing (forcing beyond total solar irradiance, or TSI), even if they don't know what the mechanism is. This directly undercuts the main premise of the report, as stated in Chapter 8 (page 8-4, lines 54-57):

There is very high confidence that natural forcing is a small fraction of the anthropogenic forcing. In particular, over the past three decades (since 1980), robust evidence from satellite observations of the TSI and volcanic aerosols demonstrate a near-zero (–0.04 W m–2) change in the natural forcing compared to the anthropogenic AF increase of ~1.0 ± 0.3 W m–2.

The Chapter 8 authors (a different group than the Chapter 7 authors) are explicit here that their claim about natural forcing being small compared to anthropogenic forcing is based on an analysis in which the only solar forcing that is taken into account is TSI. This can be verified from the radiative forcing table on page 8-39 where the only solar variable included in the IPCC's computer models is seen to be "solar irradiance."

This analysis, where post-1980 warming gets attributed to the human release of CO2 on the grounds that it cannot be attributed to solar irradiance, cannot stand in the face of the Chapter 7 admission of substantial evidence for solar forcing beyond solar irradiance. Once the evidence for enhanced solar forcing is taken into account we can have no confidence that natural forcing is small compared to anthropogenic forcing.

The Chapter 8 premise that natural forcing is relatively small leads directly to the main conclusion of the entire report, stated in the first sentence of the Executive Summary (the very first sentence of the entire report): that advances since AR4 "further strengthen the basis for human activities being the primary driver in climate change" (p.1-2, lines 3-5). This headline conclusion is a direct descendant of the assumption that the only solar forcing is TSI, a claim that their own report no longer accepts.

The report still barely hints at the mountain of evidence for enhanced solar forcing, or the magnitude of the evidenced effect. Dozens of studies (section two here) have found between a .4 and .7 degree of correlation between solar activity and various climate indices, suggesting that solar activity "explains" in the statistical sense something like half of all past temperature change, very little of which could be explained by the very slight variation in TSI. At least the Chapter 7 team is now being explicit about what this evidence means: that some mechanism of enhanced solar forcing must be at work.

Complete Leaked 5th Assessment Report w/ analysis:

[link to stopgreensuicide.com]

This is pretty huge! This should be a page one pinned thread. In brief, they're saying (on one hand) that Global Warming is still our fault; while (on the other hand) their evidence is proof that unknown solar and cosmic factors are a much bigger influence. Oh well, now the cover-up can begin, LOL.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


I wonder, has anyone posed the correlation between GCR flux, and cloud condensation nuclei seeding / chem trail dispersal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28353201


Some interesting research I scrounged up.

"GALACTIC COSMIC RAYS – CLOUDS EFFECT AND BIFURCATION MODEL OF THE EARTH GLOBAL CLIMATE. PART 1. THEORY

In aerosol physics of cloud formation there are now profound and insuperable, at the first sight contradictions caused by the anomalous low efficiency of “ion-aerosol clear-air mechanism” for nucleation of the sufficient number of condensation nuclei in an atmosphere. In spite
of this, many researchers have serious reasons to consider that galactic cosmic rays play one of key roles in the mechanisms of the weather and climate formation at our planet/"

[link to arxiv.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28353201


Nice correlating info, and I believe we can go alot of directions with this topic Hugh has given us
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Here are the great links for the SO video:
12-26-2012
REPEAT LINKS:
WORLD WEATHER:
NDBC Buoys: [link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]
Tropical Storms: [link to www.wunderground.com]
HurricaneZone Satellite Images: [link to www.hurricanezone.net]
Weather Channel: [link to www.weather.com]
NOAA Environmental Visualization Laboratory: [link to www.nnvl.noaa.gov]
Pressure Maps: [link to www.woweather.com]
Satellite Maps: [link to www.woweather.com]
Forecast Maps: [link to www.woweather.com]
EL DORADO WORLD WEATHER MAP: [link to www.eldoradocountyweather.com]
TORCON: [link to www.weather.com] [Tornado Forecast for the day]
HURRICANE TRACKER: [link to www.weather.com]

US WEATHER:
Precipitation Totals: [link to www.cocorahs.org]
GOES Satellites: [link to rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov]
THE WINDMAP: [link to hint.fm]
Severe Weather Threats: [link to www.weather.com]
Canada Weather Office Satellite Composites: [link to www.weatheroffice.gc.ca]
Temperature Delta: [link to www.intellicast.com]
Records/Extremes: [link to www.ncdc.noaa.gov]

SPACEWEATHER:
Spaceweather: [link to spaceweather.com]
SOHO Solar Wind: [link to umtof.umd.edu]
HAARP Data Meters: [link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]
Planetary Orbital Diagram - Ceres1 JPL: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
SDO: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Helioviewer: [link to www.helioviewer.org]
SOHO: [link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]
Stereo: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
SOLARIMG: [link to solarimg.org]
iSWA: [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
NASA ENLIL SPIRAL: [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
NOAA ENLIL SPIRAL: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
GOES Xray: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Gamma Ray Bursts: [link to grb.sonoma.edu]
BARTOL Cosmic Rays: [link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]
ISWA: [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
NOAA Sunspot Classifications: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
GONG: [link to gong2.nso.edu]

MISC Links:
JAPAN Radiation Map: [link to jciv.iidj.net]
RADIATION Network: [link to radiationnetwork.com]
LISS: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
QUAKES LIST FULL: [link to www.emsc-csem.org]
RSOE: [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] [That cool alert map I use]
Moon: [link to www.fourmilab.ch]
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 Quoting: joinca


Thanks Joinca, makes it much easier.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Speaking of the weather and Galactic Cosmic Rays, the IPCC's (the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) 5th Assessment Report has been leaked worldwide on the internet. The leaker's evaluation of the data points to a bigger Solar/GCR influence on climate than man-made fuels or cow farts.

*The IPCC’s (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s) 5th Assessment Report due for release in September of 2013, has now been leaked publicly over 9 months in advance on an internet publication called “Stop Green Suicide“.
One of the reports 800 expert reviewers, a man by the name of Alex Rawls, apparently leaked the report and is backing it with written evidence that cosmic rays are actually the cause of climate change and warming patterns, thus possibly blowing the lid off the whole entire global warming fraud pushed by figureheads such as Al Gore and others.


This is from the Leaker's analysis:

**Lead story from the Second Order Draft: strong evidence for solar forcing beyond TSI now acknowledged by IPCC

Compared to the First Order Draft, the SOD now adds the following sentence, indicated in bold (page 7-43, lines 1-5, emphasis added):

Many empirical relationships have been reported between GCR or cosmogenic isotope archives and some aspects of the climate system (e.g., Bond et al., 2001; Dengel et al., 2009; Ram and Stolz, 1999). The forcing from changes in total solar irradiance alone does not seem to account for these observations, implying the existence of an amplifying mechanism such as the hypothesized GCR-cloud link. We focus here on observed relationships between GCR and aerosol and cloud properties.

The Chapter 7 authors are admitting strong evidence ("many empirical relationships") for enhanced solar forcing (forcing beyond total solar irradiance, or TSI), even if they don't know what the mechanism is. This directly undercuts the main premise of the report, as stated in Chapter 8 (page 8-4, lines 54-57):

There is very high confidence that natural forcing is a small fraction of the anthropogenic forcing. In particular, over the past three decades (since 1980), robust evidence from satellite observations of the TSI and volcanic aerosols demonstrate a near-zero (–0.04 W m–2) change in the natural forcing compared to the anthropogenic AF increase of ~1.0 ± 0.3 W m–2.

The Chapter 8 authors (a different group than the Chapter 7 authors) are explicit here that their claim about natural forcing being small compared to anthropogenic forcing is based on an analysis in which the only solar forcing that is taken into account is TSI. This can be verified from the radiative forcing table on page 8-39 where the only solar variable included in the IPCC's computer models is seen to be "solar irradiance."

This analysis, where post-1980 warming gets attributed to the human release of CO2 on the grounds that it cannot be attributed to solar irradiance, cannot stand in the face of the Chapter 7 admission of substantial evidence for solar forcing beyond solar irradiance. Once the evidence for enhanced solar forcing is taken into account we can have no confidence that natural forcing is small compared to anthropogenic forcing.

The Chapter 8 premise that natural forcing is relatively small leads directly to the main conclusion of the entire report, stated in the first sentence of the Executive Summary (the very first sentence of the entire report): that advances since AR4 "further strengthen the basis for human activities being the primary driver in climate change" (p.1-2, lines 3-5). This headline conclusion is a direct descendant of the assumption that the only solar forcing is TSI, a claim that their own report no longer accepts.

The report still barely hints at the mountain of evidence for enhanced solar forcing, or the magnitude of the evidenced effect. Dozens of studies (section two here) have found between a .4 and .7 degree of correlation between solar activity and various climate indices, suggesting that solar activity "explains" in the statistical sense something like half of all past temperature change, very little of which could be explained by the very slight variation in TSI. At least the Chapter 7 team is now being explicit about what this evidence means: that some mechanism of enhanced solar forcing must be at work.

Complete Leaked 5th Assessment Report w/ analysis:

[link to stopgreensuicide.com]

This is pretty huge! This should be a page one pinned thread. In brief, they're saying (on one hand) that Global Warming is still our fault; while (on the other hand) their evidence is proof that unknown solar and cosmic factors are a much bigger influence. Oh well, now the cover-up can begin, LOL.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


This is exactly what I've been looking for, great work on this Hugh,awesome! Wow, the implications are huge with this announcement. Bravo
 Quoting: shadasonic

I have hard copy...not from the internet...that states just this.
most of the data comes from forum briefs in the early 2000's though some go back to the late 70' and early 80's

my fav was a document from 2002 titled "the leading cause to effect earth's climate is the sun"

we will know the truth!
TY HUGH

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SO!


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funny how the kill shot SO talks about will remove food from the selves...no power....no gas for cars and genni's....and lack of police..........

well i just saw this happen this fall in NYC....

NOT PRETTY!

hard to believe this can happen, but easy to see as it does.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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waves...yes waves..........
water light sound......how much of our lives are waves......

waves....cycles.....
are waves just cycles?

are cycles just waves?

what is color?

what is CYMATICS?


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old school presentation on electromagnetism.....


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the nothingness of space?
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the question .......what is waving when a particle is a wave?

questions too many in my mind.......
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[link to www.youtube.com]



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mind blown.....WTF?


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WOW with sound
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