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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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This thread is probably worth adding to favorites for reference. It lists the images that will come into view on HI1 and some of the other telescopes. Very well done imo.

Says Earth and Beehive Cluster are in the FOV now.

Thread: STEREO HI1 Transits - Planets and some bright objects for the next year
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Thank you, Isis One,hf that's a handy list. The Naval Research Laboratory website has been down for maintenance all weekend. I was going to re-post the SECCHI Star-mapping tool but the website is inaccessible today :(

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This thread is probably worth adding to favorites for reference. It lists the images that will come into view on HI1 and some of the other telescopes. Very well done imo.

Says Earth and Beehive Cluster are in the FOV now.

Thread: STEREO HI1 Transits - Planets and some bright objects for the next year
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Thank you, Isis One,hf that's a handy list. The Naval Research Laboratory website has been down for maintenance all weekend. I was going to re-post the SECCHI Star-mapping tool but the website is inaccessible today :(

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You're welcome Hugh, glad to be able to contribute.
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And a decent Plot [link to www.solen.info] 'The northern polar field reversed in June 2012 while the southern polar field could reverse early in 2013'

Hope all is relativesunhf
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I'll comment more on this later, but solen is mistaken in his interpretation of the data. The observatory he is sourcing his graph on last had a good view of the Sun's north pole in September 2012, and it was still negative polarity.

It most certainly did not reverse in June! More later.

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And a decent Plot [link to www.solen.info] 'The northern polar field reversed in June 2012 while the southern polar field could reverse early in 2013'

Hope all is relativesunhf
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I'll comment more on this later, but solen is mistaken in his interpretation of the data. The observatory he is sourcing his graph on last had a good view of the Sun's north pole in September 2012, and it was still negative polarity.

It most certainly did not reverse in June! More later.
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Boy, I'm glad you are on the case Madajshf
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I don't have time right now to go into the details of why that solen chart is mistaken to judge reversals based on WSO filtered data, but for those that want to know when one of the Sun's poles have reversed, use Leif Svalgaard's chart instead [link to www.leif.org]

The Sun's north pole is closer to reversing than the south; Here's the easiest way to tell when it has reversed: Look at the blue line on the left-hand Leif chart linked above, it represents the north pole. See how it is crossing the boundary between negative and positive polarity, going up past zero and then back down below again?

It hasn't reversed polarity until the line stops dipping back below zero every pass. That's when we'll know that the actual pole has converted. There's a decent chance that this September (the next pass of the north pole) the readings stay above zero instead of dipping back below like it did in Sept 2011 and Sept 2012. If the readings stay above zero this time, we'll know it has reversed! ;)

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I don't have time right now to go into the details of why that solen chart is mistaken to judge reversals based on WSO filtered data, but for those that want to know when one of the Sun's poles have reversed, use Leif Svalgaard's chart instead [link to www.leif.org]

The Sun's north pole is closer to reversing than the south; Here's the easiest way to tell when it has reversed: Look at the blue line on the left-hand Leif chart linked above, it represents the north pole. See how it is crossing the boundary between negative and positive polarity, going up past zero and then back down below again?

It hasn't reversed polarity until the line stops dipping back below zero every pass. That's when we'll know that the actual pole has converted. There's a decent chance that this September (the next pass of the north pole) the readings stay above zero instead of dipping back below like it did in Sept 2011 and Sept 2012. If it the readings stay above zero this time, we'll know it has reversed! ;)
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Thank you for keeping us updated, but also for showing us how to inform ourselveshf
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And a decent Plot [link to www.solen.info] 'The northern polar field reversed in June 2012 while the southern polar field could reverse early in 2013'

Hope all is relativesunhf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium

I'll comment more on this later, but solen is mistaken in his interpretation of the data. The observatory he is sourcing his graph on last had a good view of the Sun's north pole in September 2012, and it was still negative polarity.

It most certainly did not reverse in June! More later.
 Quoting: madajs


Hello Maddy : )

Are you thinking they perhaps made the mistake of confusing the shorter period oscillation(about 6 Months)seen on this plot [link to wso.stanford.edu] with the full Cycle and hence called Northern reversal based on this?

I am still trying to get a full grip on the shorter period cycles so would appreciate your input on why it is you think they have misinterpreted the data.

They also put this out [link to www.solen.info] updated February 3rd.

Solen Page from June 1st [link to www.solen.info] note 'Big-Bird' - [link to www.solen.info] and the list of all archived Solen pages since January 1st 2003 [link to www.solen.info] .

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I don't have time right now to go into the details of why that solen chart is mistaken to judge reversals based on WSO filtered data, but for those that want to know when one of the Sun's poles have reversed, use Leif Svalgaard's chart instead [link to www.leif.org]

The Sun's north pole is closer to reversing than the south; Here's the easiest way to tell when it has reversed: Look at the blue line on the left-hand Leif chart linked above, it represents the north pole. See how it is crossing the boundary between negative and positive polarity, going up past zero and then back down below again?

It hasn't reversed polarity until the line stops dipping back below zero every pass. That's when we'll know that the actual pole has converted. There's a decent chance that this September (the next pass of the north pole) the readings stay above zero instead of dipping back below like it did in Sept 2011 and Sept 2012. If it the readings stay above zero this time, we'll know it has reversed! ;)
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And a decent Plot [link to www.solen.info] 'The northern polar field reversed in June 2012 while the southern polar field could reverse early in 2013'

Hope all is relativesunhf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium

I'll comment more on this later, but solen is mistaken in his interpretation of the data. The observatory he is sourcing his graph on last had a good view of the Sun's north pole in September 2012, and it was still negative polarity.

It most certainly did not reverse in June! More later.
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Hello Maddy : )

Are you thinking they perhaps made the mistake of confusing the shorter period oscillation(about 6 Months)seen on this plot [link to wso.stanford.edu] with the full Cycle and hence called Northern reversal based on this?

I am still trying to get a full grip on the shorter period cycles so would appreciate your input on why it is you think they have misinterpreted the data.

They also put this out [link to www.solen.info] updated February 3rd.

Solen Page from June 1st [link to www.solen.info] note 'Big-Bird' - [link to www.solen.info] and the list of all archived Solen pages since January 1st 2003 [link to www.solen.info] .

sunhf
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Thank you Maddy!

It does seem that you are trying to explain the same thing as I did above,I agree and again Thanking you ta'sunhf
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Hugh/66/NiNz - Do you have any idea why this [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] is'nt affecting us at all?

Is it passing just below us as it looks on here [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ?

I'm having a momentary lapse in spacial recognition,exsqueeze mehf
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Hugh/66/NiNz - Do you have any idea why this [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] is'nt affecting us at all?

Is it passing just below us as it looks on here [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ?

I'm having a momentary lapse in spacial recognition,exsqueeze mehf
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Hi SChf When you say 'this' and 'it', what are you referencing? mucho nachios
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I don't have time right now to go into the details of why that solen chart is mistaken to judge reversals based on WSO filtered data, but for those that want to know when one of the Sun's poles have reversed, use Leif Svalgaard's chart instead [link to www.leif.org]

The Sun's north pole is closer to reversing than the south; Here's the easiest way to tell when it has reversed: Look at the blue line on the left-hand Leif chart linked above, it represents the north pole. See how it is crossing the boundary between negative and positive polarity, going up past zero and then back down below again?

It hasn't reversed polarity until the line stops dipping back below zero every pass. That's when we'll know that the actual pole has converted. There's a decent chance that this September (the next pass of the north pole) the readings stay above zero instead of dipping back below like it did in Sept 2011 and Sept 2012. If it the readings stay above zero this time, we'll know it has reversed! ;)
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Hey M there are those out there thinking the magnetics may stay the same, whats your take on that. I hadn't heard anything like that until recently?
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I don't have time right now to go into the details of why that solen chart is mistaken to judge reversals based on WSO filtered data, but for those that want to know when one of the Sun's poles have reversed, use Leif Svalgaard's chart instead [link to www.leif.org]

The Sun's north pole is closer to reversing than the south; Here's the easiest way to tell when it has reversed: Look at the blue line on the left-hand Leif chart linked above, it represents the north pole. See how it is crossing the boundary between negative and positive polarity, going up past zero and then back down below again?

It hasn't reversed polarity until the line stops dipping back below zero every pass. That's when we'll know that the actual pole has converted. There's a decent chance that this September (the next pass of the north pole) the readings stay above zero instead of dipping back below like it did in Sept 2011 and Sept 2012. If it the readings stay above zero this time, we'll know it has reversed! ;)
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I have been looking EVERYWHERE for tht link !!! Thank you Madjas !!! hf
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Hugh/66/NiNz - Do you have any idea why this [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] is'nt affecting us at all?

Is it passing just below us as it looks on here [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ?

I'm having a momentary lapse in spacial recognition,exsqueeze mehf
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Something hit us .... quick like.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Sadly '65 is not looking so very interesting. Tomorrow's a new day.

Good night all.
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Nite nite TS!
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Hugh/66/NiNz - Do you have any idea why this [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] is'nt affecting us at all?

Is it passing just below us as it looks on here [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ?

I'm having a momentary lapse in spacial recognition,exsqueeze mehf
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Hi SChf When you say 'this' and 'it', what are you referencing? mucho nachios
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You telling me you don't know!?

scratching

I was referring to the splodge of CME(on the far Left of the image)that appeared to be in the region of Earth.
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Hugh/66/NiNz - Do you have any idea why this [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] is'nt affecting us at all?

Is it passing just below us as it looks on here [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ?

I'm having a momentary lapse in spacial recognition,exsqueeze mehf
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Hi SChf When you say 'this' and 'it', what are you referencing? mucho nachios
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You telling me you don't know!?

scratching

I was referring to the splodge of CME(on the far Left of the image)that appeared to be in the region of Earth.
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Ok, I see it now.

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This is what I see

:22413b: :22413c: :22413d:

Hope you get to see it soon too wink
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Hugh/66/NiNz - Do you have any idea why this [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] is'nt affecting us at all?

Is it passing just below us as it looks on here [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ?

I'm having a momentary lapse in spacial recognition,exsqueeze mehf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Something hit us .... quick like.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Missing data after that spike,possibly eclipsed?

Thank you 66 and have a good Nights Schlafensleeping

Good Night all : )

Rest Well(those who sleep)and happy hunting to those that don'tsunhf

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Also a screenshot I took this morning at around 13:30 UTC.

:22413e:



We definitely got hit with something early, but I didn't have a chance to investigate it any further.

Sorry, no mods I guess.
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I don't have time right now to go into the details of why that solen chart is mistaken to judge reversals based on WSO filtered data, but for those that want to know when one of the Sun's poles have reversed, use Leif Svalgaard's chart instead [link to www.leif.org]

The Sun's north pole is closer to reversing than the south; Here's the easiest way to tell when it has reversed: Look at the blue line on the left-hand Leif chart linked above, it represents the north pole. See how it is crossing the boundary between negative and positive polarity, going up past zero and then back down below again?

It hasn't reversed polarity until the line stops dipping back below zero every pass. That's when we'll know that the actual pole has converted. There's a decent chance that this September (the next pass of the north pole) the readings stay above zero instead of dipping back below like it did in Sept 2011 and Sept 2012. If it the readings stay above zero this time, we'll know it has reversed! ;)
 Quoting: madajs


Hey M there are those out there thinking the magnetics may stay the same, whats your take on that. I hadn't heard anything like that until recently?
 Quoting: shadasonic

Hey shad, when you say that do you mean some are thinking the poles won't flip?

If so, I'd have to disagree. At present both poles are making good progress towards reversal.

The south pole was showing a lack of progress the last couple of years, but that is no longer the case.
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Take a look when they get here, tell me what you think.

Night Isis, Cesium hf
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Take a look when they get here, tell me what you think.

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This is what I see

:22413b: :22413c: :22413d:

Hope you get to see it soon too wink
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That was an excellent tutorial on how to evaluate these events, thanks TS!
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Yeah. Long duration will it go past b8?
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Yeah. Long duration will it go past b8?
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B8.3 lol. Time for some sleep night night.
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Good morning all ... hf

It's unbelievable to me that they have yet to number the solar regions in the SE quadrant, only acknowledged by Solen as 2247, and 2251.

They may seem small, but are certainly mixing up polarities.

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Yeah. Long duration will it go past b8?
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Hi Finley hi

We may be seeing an increase of background flux in general rather than an LDE.

Global D has been energized all morning too [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

We'll have to wait and see. hf





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