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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Yup Everyone needs Wilfred.

Shads...That image makes a lot of sense Br0.

You implying Cyclical expansion and contraction of the crust based upon the heat of the Cores Magma that is in turn affected by the Barycentric Dynamo waxing and waning which via basic Friction,would heat the shit out of the Core and in turn also cause it cool down in times of less Cyclical 'revolutions' around the central point of Oscillation?

Because if you do,I get it.
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You got it, you're very well rounded SC!

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just like the original HALE BOPP AND ITS MYSTERIOUS COMPANION.
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Exactly,no-one would here me though - Even had S0 broadcast it to Thousands,still nowt.

Thank you NiNz.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


ahhh man.. why the hell not!?!
this is huge!

but had to look into this closer
no flip just yet, it almost did, then stabelized

here is the WSO solar dipole
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

here is just the North, where we can see it reversed
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

and here is just the South, where we can see it when to the very point of reversal, then stopped and stabelized
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

with it being THAT close, we could be seeing a solar polar flip at any sek without much notice at all
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Yes,it is crazy...It looks like the poles are smeered around the Sun in patches,check the magnetograms and this is kind of visible sometimes - with a large predominant Polarity occupying sections of the Sun at different times,it definitely did achieve at one point a crossing before something happened...I'll read the rest of your comment and links to find out what,exactly.

Thank you NiNz for being so on ithf

Fucking Awesome.

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Most recent WSO Magnetogram
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
look at the placment of the +/- regions
this sun is at the point of wanting to flip!
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

WSO generates data about the Sun's magnetic field in the following forms:

MAGNETOGRAMS

Magnetograms are magntic maps of the Sun's surface. The Sun rotates every 27
days and the features change with time, so the maps change from day to day.
magnetogram: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

SYNOPTIC CHARTS

Synoptic Charts are magnetic maps of the whole Sun. Magnetograms taken over a
solar rotation are combined to give a complete picture of the solar field. The
Earth is near the solar equator, so we never get a very good look at the Sun's
poles.
Synoptic Chart: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

CORONAL FIELDS

The field in the corona can not be measured directly. However the field can be
modeled because it's basic structure is determined by the conditions in the
photosphere. We use a potential field model to compute the field about 1.5
solar radii above the Sun's surface. That's the height at which the field
pattern becomes fixed. That pattern is carried out into interplanetary space
by the solar wind. It takes about 4 days for the pattern to reach the Earth.
The model isn't very good at predicting dynamic changes in the corona.
Coronal PFSS map: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

Read more about this:
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


NiNz - Do you understand what I am saying regarding my above comment about the Overall Magnetic Field Strength and its' implications!?

Please say yes,shits really important!

sun
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Exactly,no-one would here me though - Even had S0 broadcast it to Thousands,still nowt.

Thank you NiNz.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


ahhh man.. why the hell not!?!
this is huge!

but had to look into this closer
no flip just yet, it almost did, then stabelized

here is the WSO solar dipole
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

here is just the North, where we can see it reversed
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

and here is just the South, where we can see it when to the very point of reversal, then stopped and stabelized
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

with it being THAT close, we could be seeing a solar polar flip at any sek without much notice at all
 Quoting: NiNzrez


we can see here that since stabelizing, as stated above, the southern polar field is now growing toward and close to the flip/reverals again.
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
(this was the last reported reading on Feb 26th - almost a month back)
it would be a bit more than uncommon to see it stabelize once more when it hits the reversal stage
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thanks Ninz!line up
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Yup Everyone needs Wilfred.

Shads...That image makes a lot of sense Br0.

You implying Cyclical expansion and contraction of the crust based upon the heat of the Cores Magma that is in turn affected by the Barycentric Dynamo waxing and waning which via basic Friction,would heat the shit out of the Core and in turn also cause it cool down in times of less Cyclical 'revolutions' around the central point of Oscillation?

Because if you do,I get it.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How the fuck did you figure all that out from those drawings? (Using your vernacular for funniness factor).
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just like the original HALE BOPP AND ITS MYSTERIOUS COMPANION.
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hmmmmmmm, interesting, any hunches?
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Yup Everyone needs Wilfred.

Shads...That image makes a lot of sense Br0.

You implying Cyclical expansion and contraction of the crust based upon the heat of the Cores Magma that is in turn affected by the Barycentric Dynamo waxing and waning which via basic Friction,would heat the shit out of the Core and in turn also cause it cool down in times of less Cyclical 'revolutions' around the central point of Oscillation?

Because if you do,I get it.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How the fuck did you figure all that out from those drawings? (Using your vernacular for funniness factor).
 Quoting: Isis One



I want to know if he can say that all in one breath !

Thanks for the daily dose of intelligence Sol Crew !
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Yup Everyone needs Wilfred.

Shads...That image makes a lot of sense Br0.

You implying Cyclical expansion and contraction of the crust based upon the heat of the Cores Magma that is in turn affected by the Barycentric Dynamo waxing and waning which via basic Friction,would heat the shit out of the Core and in turn also cause it cool down in times of less Cyclical 'revolutions' around the central point of Oscillation?

Because if you do,I get it.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How the fuck did you figure all that out from those drawings? (Using your vernacular for funniness factor).
 Quoting: Isis One


Common sense ain't it Luv!?

hf
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Exactly,no-one would here me though - Even had S0 broadcast it to Thousands,still nowt.

Thank you NiNz.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


ahhh man.. why the hell not!?!
this is huge!

but had to look into this closer
no flip just yet, it almost did, then stabelized

here is the WSO solar dipole
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

here is just the North, where we can see it reversed
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

and here is just the South, where we can see it when to the very point of reversal, then stopped and stabelized
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

with it being THAT close, we could be seeing a solar polar flip at any sek without much notice at all
 Quoting: NiNzrez


we can see here that since stabelizing, as stated above, the southern polar field is now growing toward and close to the flip/reverals again.
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
(this was the last reported reading on Feb 26th - almost a month back)
it would be a bit more than uncommon to see it stabelize once more when it hits the reversal stage
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thanks Ninz!line up
 Quoting: shadasonic


By the way,thank you for that last link NiNz!

Can't believe I hadn't seen it on that site yet!?

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The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Yup Everyone needs Wilfred.

Shads...That image makes a lot of sense Br0.

You implying Cyclical expansion and contraction of the crust based upon the heat of the Cores Magma that is in turn affected by the Barycentric Dynamo waxing and waning which via basic Friction,would heat the shit out of the Core and in turn also cause it cool down in times of less Cyclical 'revolutions' around the central point of Oscillation?

Because if you do,I get it.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How the fuck did you figure all that out from those drawings? (Using your vernacular for funniness factor).
 Quoting: Isis One



I want to know if he can say that all in one breath !

Thanks for the daily dose of intelligence Sol Crew !
 Quoting: AC 5341


Ooo,you dirty bugger.

wink

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The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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I need to roll around for a few,give me a Minute.

sun

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The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Yup Everyone needs Wilfred.

Shads...That image makes a lot of sense Br0.

You implying Cyclical expansion and contraction of the crust based upon the heat of the Cores Magma that is in turn affected by the Barycentric Dynamo waxing and waning which via basic Friction,would heat the shit out of the Core and in turn also cause it cool down in times of less Cyclical 'revolutions' around the central point of Oscillation?

Because if you do,I get it.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How the fuck did you figure all that out from those drawings? (Using your vernacular for funniness factor).
 Quoting: Isis One


Common sense ain't it Luv!?

hf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Ah, that feels a bit beyond common sense, I'll say it again, your mind is amazing, also, good hunch on Polaris.

Excellent thread today, guys. Nin, you continues to amaze with charts/graphs/sims I've never seen before. In Hugh's forecast, they refer to "transient cme's", does that mean, slippery little effers who got past us? lol. Shad and Nin, thanks for EQ/volcano info. SC and Nin, your discussion on solar magnetic field pole reversing drama was excellent. Gomez, just love your avatar!!! Da. thanks for having a sense of humor. Hi to all lurkers. Sol crew rocks. Also a shout out to our gal Tiny Tink who started a fog2 thread on Nin's solar blog in case we get shut out here at glp, for anyone that's interested.
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

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One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide
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Yup Everyone needs Wilfred.

Shads...That image makes a lot of sense Br0.

You implying Cyclical expansion and contraction of the crust based upon the heat of the Cores Magma that is in turn affected by the Barycentric Dynamo waxing and waning which via basic Friction,would heat the shit out of the Core and in turn also cause it cool down in times of less Cyclical 'revolutions' around the central point of Oscillation?

Because if you do,I get it.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How the fuck did you figure all that out from those drawings? (Using your vernacular for funniness factor).
 Quoting: Isis One


Common sense ain't it Luv!?

hf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Ah, that feels a bit beyond common sense, I'll say it again, your mind is amazing, also, good hunch on Polaris.

Excellent thread today, guys. Nin, you continues to amaze with charts/graphs/sims I've never seen before. In Hugh's forecast, they refer to "transient cme's", does that mean, slippery little effers who got past us? lol. Shad and Nin, thanks for EQ/volcano info. SC and Nin, your discussion on solar magnetic field pole reversing drama was excellent. Gomez, just love your avatar!!! Da. thanks for having a sense of humor. Hi to all lurkers. Sol crew rocks. Also a shout out to our gal Tiny Tink who started a fog2 thread on Nin's solar blog in case we get shut out here at glp, for anyone that's interested.
 Quoting: Isis One


Thank you Isis!

wink

I think they mean CMEs' whose prediction is hard to tell exactly or the coming and going of CME clouds.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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By the way,that was informed intuition.

Hence,Common Sense : )
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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ahhh man.. why the hell not!?!
this is huge!

but had to look into this closer
no flip just yet, it almost did, then stabelized

here is the WSO solar dipole
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

here is just the North, where we can see it reversed
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

and here is just the South, where we can see it when to the very point of reversal, then stopped and stabelized
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

with it being THAT close, we could be seeing a solar polar flip at any sek without much notice at all
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Yes,it is crazy...It looks like the poles are smeered around the Sun in patches,check the magnetograms and this is kind of visible sometimes - with a large predominant Polarity occupying sections of the Sun at different times,it definitely did achieve at one point a crossing before something happened...I'll read the rest of your comment and links to find out what,exactly.

Thank you NiNz for being so on ithf

Fucking Awesome.

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Most recent WSO Magnetogram
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
look at the placment of the +/- regions
this sun is at the point of wanting to flip!
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

WSO generates data about the Sun's magnetic field in the following forms:

MAGNETOGRAMS

Magnetograms are magntic maps of the Sun's surface. The Sun rotates every 27
days and the features change with time, so the maps change from day to day.
magnetogram: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

SYNOPTIC CHARTS

Synoptic Charts are magnetic maps of the whole Sun. Magnetograms taken over a
solar rotation are combined to give a complete picture of the solar field. The
Earth is near the solar equator, so we never get a very good look at the Sun's
poles.
Synoptic Chart: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

CORONAL FIELDS

The field in the corona can not be measured directly. However the field can be
modeled because it's basic structure is determined by the conditions in the
photosphere. We use a potential field model to compute the field about 1.5
solar radii above the Sun's surface. That's the height at which the field
pattern becomes fixed. That pattern is carried out into interplanetary space
by the solar wind. It takes about 4 days for the pattern to reach the Earth.
The model isn't very good at predicting dynamic changes in the corona.
Coronal PFSS map: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

Read more about this:
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


NiNz - Do you understand what I am saying regarding my above comment about the Overall Magnetic Field Strength and its' implications!?

Please say yes,shits really important!

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


yes i get it and i think your line of thinking is extremely plausible :)
keep up the great work!
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Yup Everyone needs Wilfred.

Shads...That image makes a lot of sense Br0.

You implying Cyclical expansion and contraction of the crust based upon the heat of the Cores Magma that is in turn affected by the Barycentric Dynamo waxing and waning which via basic Friction,would heat the shit out of the Core and in turn also cause it cool down in times of less Cyclical 'revolutions' around the central point of Oscillation?

Because if you do,I get it.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How the fuck did you figure all that out from those drawings? (Using your vernacular for funniness factor).
 Quoting: Isis One


Common sense ain't it Luv!?

hf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Ah, that feels a bit beyond common sense, I'll say it again, your mind is amazing, also, good hunch on Polaris.

Excellent thread today, guys. Nin, you continues to amaze with charts/graphs/sims I've never seen before. In Hugh's forecast, they refer to "transient cme's", does that mean, slippery little effers who got past us? lol. Shad and Nin, thanks for EQ/volcano info. SC and Nin, your discussion on solar magnetic field pole reversing drama was excellent. Gomez, just love your avatar!!! Da. thanks for having a sense of humor. Hi to all lurkers. Sol crew rocks. Also a shout out to our gal Tiny Tink who started a fog2 thread on Nin's solar blog in case we get shut out here at glp, for anyone that's interested.
 Quoting: Isis One


hf
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Thank you Ninz - I think I can prove it with Two images,maybe three first,this of the 0bserved and measured Overall Magnetic Field Strength of Sunspots alone,independent of the actual Solar Dipole [link to science.nasa.gov] You can see that is a massive decrease in Overall Strength of their Magnetic Fields and we know that in order to Flare they require a More complex Polarity(esp. for High C-X+ Flares)..combining that with this [link to www.leif.org] which shows at the same time,a massive difference in The actual overall Field Strength of our Star entirely - I know you know NiNz,but others,if the suns loses its overall Field Strength like this it simply will not be able to produce Sunspots,and from Livingston and Penn(guys who made the Observations)their serious extrapolation was that'by 2015-2030 we will see zero to few Sunspots forming at all' (you can read about this in basic form here [link to www.leif.org] )Penn and Livingstone are amongst the best Solar Brains we have as a species,in my opinion,for 0bservations of Solar Cyces etc.

Further to the plots above I want to also present this(don't mean to sound like a fucking teacher,feel like a prick saying that)a plot of the extrapolated Future Field Strengths of our Sol until 2030,these show what is my main thrust [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net] Do you see the problem there Br0thers and Solsters..apart from the(scary)decrease in projected MFS,you should also notice that it will not again switch Hemisphere for the near fore-seeable future - This leaves me to say what most of you know already,some may have a hard time admitting it,but it is our duty to do so as these are the facts 'Landscheidt Minimum'.

I will now introduce another two brilliant Solar Statistical compilers and there incredible Formulae that has and is predicting soley by Computer Program alone(ones they wrote)the exact Magnetic Behavio(u)r of our Sol,Tim Channon and M.A Vulkacevic -

I'll snip some but you need to read this stuff if you want to know where we are in relation to Solar/Universal time and our Species,as I see it...

'Back in 2003, independent investigator and talkshop contributor Vukcevic developed a formula to describe the changing solar polar fields which has closely mimicked the Sun’s magnetic activity since. The terms in this formula are based on the motion of the biggest of the gas giants,Jupiter and Saturn. You can see a graph based on his formula and the WSO polar field data here.

In a complementary line of investigation, talkshop contributing author Tim Channon made a study of the possible set of cycles and amplitudes which could replicate the reconstruction of solar activity since 1610 made by NASA’s Judith Lean Tim has also used the software he created to do cycles analysis to discover the dominant cycle periods which describe the motion of the sun around the solar system barycentre caused by the motion of the planets, predominantly the four outer gas giants, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. He has now discovered that these same dominant cycle periods successfully replicate the record of changes in the solar polar fields.

For planetary-solar theorists this is exciting news, because it forms a new line of evidence demonstrating the strong possibility of a link between solar motion caused by the planets, and the changing levels of magnetic activity observed on the solar surface.

Here is Tim’s plot showing records of the changes in the field strength of the solar polar fields in red and the output of his cycles analysis software using the solar barycentric motion dominating cycle periods. The Pearson R2 value for the correlation is 0.975, or in layman’s terms “just about spot on.”
- [link to tallbloke.files.wordpress.com] <--- Plot

At long last we have a close range forecast, albeit based on a short time span data series, which ties planetary motion to observable solar activity. An additional caveat though, is that the sun has been acting anomalously over the last few years, and we only have the vaguest of ideas about its non-linear behaviour. Still, if this forecast shows skill against observations over the coming years, it will be a vindication of cycles based analysis, and another boost for the planetary-solar theory. [link to tallbloke.wordpress.com (secure)]

Here is the hidden door to this modelling,if you want to look further [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net]

Ok so,you more than likely may be thinking 'Oi! 'Cesium - What the fuck is your point!?'

My point is - Mini to possible full Ice Age starting from at least 3 Years ago,and has been forecast to be occurring right now and for some time,here is a table showing the previous grand minima. and the future ones based off of the longer cycles of the past [link to ktwop.files.wordpress.com] You can see we are already in the middle of the predicted Grand Minima. right now from that graph...but you don't need to believe me - I just threw this together quickly to outline and recap,I can prove my facts or their basis a lot further if you need me to - But for this Morning the above should suffice for your Coffee easy read,and also this [link to ktwop.wordpress.com] read and utilize all links charts etc. and this - [link to www.schulphysik.de]

And if you ned proof that Climates forcer is Solar then here,read this also [link to www.giss.nasa.gov] a small piece from NASA about how the Sun causes Ice ages and this is directly due to Weak Sunspot Activity.

Remember,we are in a Solar Max - the Background X-rays should be almost constantly in the Mid C Range(at least) but yet I estimate the overall X-ray Flux to have been at a max. of B6-8 Max. since the onset of this Cycle,I amsure alot would agree with that estimate.

More reading:

'Decreasing
Sunsp
ot
Magnetic
Fields
Explain
Unique
10.7
cm
Radio
Flux' - The Penn/Livingstone and Svalgaard PDF of their work [link to www.leif.org]

shk

Luv 2 all of you!

sun

Edits:sorry,I rushed through it and didn't check What I had typedhf

lol.

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Yes,I was being a twit when I said 'Easy Morning Coffee Read'.

Sorry.

But please,if you have the time please read it through and if you have any questions as to its' validity,I will do my upmost to try and quantify my reasons why this is perfectly legitimate and factual data from which we may have to start all out assumptions from regarding this Max. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] and the Future 20-5-/10 Years.

Straight up.

Any questions on this,like I said,fir away.

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Morning Tink Tink!

hugs

Thanking you loads,as always me Hearty!

Raarrr!

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Morning Tink Tink!

hugs

Thanking you loads,as always me Hearty!

Raarrr!

sun
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Real big thanks for that again Tink Tink - A Good Update Today.

sunhf
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Morning Tink Tink!

hugs

Thanking you loads,as always me Hearty!

Raarrr!

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Real big thanks for that again Tink Tink - A Good Update Today.

sunhf
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You are welcome SC, it is my pleasure, my little contribution to this thread.

Hope you are doing well. hf

hugs right back at ya!!

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Ah, that feels a bit beyond common sense, I'll say it again, your mind is amazing, also, good hunch on Polaris.

Excellent thread today, guys. Nin, you continues to amaze with charts/graphs/sims I've never seen before. In Hugh's forecast, they refer to "transient cme's", does that mean, slippery little effers who got past us? lol. Shad and Nin, thanks for EQ/volcano info. SC and Nin, your discussion on solar magnetic field pole reversing drama was excellent. Gomez, just love your avatar!!! Da. thanks for having a sense of humor. Hi to all lurkers. Sol crew rocks. Also a shout out to our gal Tiny Tink who started a fog2 thread on Nin's solar blog in case we get shut out here at glp, for anyone that's interested.
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+1^^ what isis said : )
rgds, rawpaul (mostly lurker)
...SC, much thanks for last links -added to list of reads -im still working thru Landscheidt work you posted few weeks back... i'll take you up on questioning if i get stuck : )
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Good morning all .... hf


So much to wrap my mind around once I get home . Thank you all for all you do !!!
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Have a great day allhf

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

but then just kept on going.

Researchers studying its data say the craft appears now to be in a realm of space beyond the influence of our Sun.

But the US space agency (Nasa), which manages Voyager, says that it regards the probe as still being inside the Solar System.

abduct
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Thank you Ninz - I think I can prove it with Two images,maybe three first,this of the 0bserved and measured Overall Magnetic Field Strength of Sunspots alone,independent of the actual Solar Dipole [link to science.nasa.gov] You can see that is a massive decrease in Overall Strength of their Magnetic Fields and we know that in order to Flare they require a More complex Polarity(esp. for High C-X+ Flares)..combining that with this [link to www.leif.org] which shows at the same time,a massive difference in The actual overall Field Strength of our Star entirely - I know you know NiNz,but others,if the suns loses its overall Field Strength like this it simply will not be able to produce Sunspots,and from Livingston and Penn(guys who made the Observations)their serious extrapolation was that'by 2015-2030 we will see zero to few Sunspots forming at all' (you can read about this in basic form here [link to www.leif.org] )Penn and Livingstone are amongst the best Solar Brains we have as a species,in my opinion,for 0bservations of Solar Cyces etc.

Further to the plots above I want to also present this(don't mean to sound like a fucking teacher,feel like a prick saying that)a plot of the extrapolated Future Field Strengths of our Sol until 2030,these show what is my main thrust [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net] Do you see the problem there Br0thers and Solsters..apart from the(scary)decrease in projected MFS,you should also notice that it will not again switch Hemisphere for the near fore-seeable future - This leaves me to say what most of you know already,some may have a hard time admitting it,but it is our duty to do so as these are the facts 'Landscheidt Minimum'.

I will now introduce another two brilliant Solar Statistical compilers and there incredible Formulae that has and is predicting soley by Computer Program alone(ones they wrote)the exact Magnetic Behavio(u)r of our Sol,Tim Channon and M.A Vulkacevic -

I'll snip some but you need to read this stuff if you want to know where we are in relation to Solar/Universal time and our Species,as I see it...

'Back in 2003, independent investigator and talkshop contributor Vukcevic developed a formula to describe the changing solar polar fields which has closely mimicked the Sun’s magnetic activity since. The terms in this formula are based on the motion of the biggest of the gas giants,Jupiter and Saturn. You can see a graph based on his formula and the WSO polar field data here.

In a complementary line of investigation, talkshop contributing author Tim Channon made a study of the possible set of cycles and amplitudes which could replicate the reconstruction of solar activity since 1610 made by NASA’s Judith Lean Tim has also used the software he created to do cycles analysis to discover the dominant cycle periods which describe the motion of the sun around the solar system barycentre caused by the motion of the planets, predominantly the four outer gas giants, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. He has now discovered that these same dominant cycle periods successfully replicate the record of changes in the solar polar fields.

For planetary-solar theorists this is exciting news, because it forms a new line of evidence demonstrating the strong possibility of a link between solar motion caused by the planets, and the changing levels of magnetic activity observed on the solar surface.

Here is Tim’s plot showing records of the changes in the field strength of the solar polar fields in red and the output of his cycles analysis software using the solar barycentric motion dominating cycle periods. The Pearson R2 value for the correlation is 0.975, or in layman’s terms “just about spot on.”
- [link to tallbloke.files.wordpress.com] <--- Plot

At long last we have a close range forecast, albeit based on a short time span data series, which ties planetary motion to observable solar activity. An additional caveat though, is that the sun has been acting anomalously over the last few years, and we only have the vaguest of ideas about its non-linear behaviour. Still, if this forecast shows skill against observations over the coming years, it will be a vindication of cycles based analysis, and another boost for the planetary-solar theory. [link to tallbloke.wordpress.com (secure)]

Here is the hidden door to this modelling,if you want to look further [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net]

Ok so,you more than likely may be thinking 'Oi! 'Cesium - What the fuck is your point!?'

My point is - Mini to possible full Ice Age starting from at least 3 Years ago,and has been forecast to be occurring right now and for some time,here is a table showing the previous grand minima. and the future ones based off of the longer cycles of the past [link to ktwop.files.wordpress.com] You can see we are already in the middle of the predicted Grand Minima. right now from that graph...but you don't need to believe me - I just threw this together quickly to outline and recap,I can prove my facts or their basis a lot further if you need me to - But for this Morning the above should suffice for your Coffee easy read,and also this [link to ktwop.wordpress.com] read and utilize all links charts etc. and this - [link to www.schulphysik.de]

And if you ned proof that Climates forcer is Solar then here,read this also [link to www.giss.nasa.gov] a small piece from NASA about how the Sun causes Ice ages and this is directly due to Weak Sunspot Activity.

Remember,we are in a Solar Max - the Background X-rays should be almost constantly in the Mid C Range(at least) but yet I estimate the overall X-ray Flux to have been at a max. of B6-8 Max. since the onset of this Cycle,I amsure alot would agree with that estimate.

More reading:

'Decreasing
Sunsp
ot
Magnetic
Fields
Explain
Unique
10.7
cm
Radio
Flux' - The Penn/Livingstone and Svalgaard PDF of their work [link to www.leif.org]

shk

Luv 2 all of you!

sun

Edits:sorry,I rushed through it and didn't check What I had typedhf

lol.
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Great put together!
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
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nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
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Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.


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And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation."
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
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nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.

 Quoting: madajs.


keep reading past 2 pages of posts on this subject ^^
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
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nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.

 Quoting: madajs.


keep reading past 2 pages of posts on this subject ^^
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Hi NiN :)

What specifically are you referring to? I thought I did read all the relevant posts tounge

Addendum: It just seemed like there was still some lingering confusion as to whether the north, specifically, had reversed.

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