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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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There was alot of particle energy released with this one, look at the area that charged
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protons at GOES are spiking pretty hard...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
who wants to take bets that we may even see a S4 event??
we 'usually' see the protons rise for at least 24hrs after an event
see here for the last event we had just days back
[link to sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net]

here is a image of the proton flux from a S4+ into a S5 proton event that we had back in 2003
[link to sidc.oma.be]
this gives a good idea on how high and fast the proton level can rise and over what period of time
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Whoa on the 2003. This the same time that there was the power grid failure in CAnada?
 Quoting: whiteangel


March 13, 1989
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.nasa.gov]

here are the readings for March 1989
[link to ars.els-cdn.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


August 14, 2003, just before 4:10 p.m. EDT (UTC−04)
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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No god damn way that was an M5
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There were 3 or 4 filaments dancing around in that area this morning, they are gone now, so several variables involved with this one
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protons still going up

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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we are now having a S2 solar radiation storm

ALERT: Proton Event 10MeV Integral Flux exceeded 100pfu
Begin Time: 2013 May 22 1520 UTC
NOAA Scale: S2 - Moderate
Potential Impacts: Radiation - Passengers and crew in high latitude, high altitude flights may experience small, increased radiation exposures.
Spacecraft - Infrequent single-event upsets to satellites are possible.
Radio - Small effects on polar HF (high frequency) propagation resulting in fades at lower frequencies

S2 solar radiation storm scale
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Solar proton event
A solar proton event (or proton storm) occurs when protons emitted by the Sun become accelerated to very high energies either close to the Sun during a solar flare or in interplanetary space by the shocks associated with coronal mass ejections. Besides protons, the events can include other nuclei like helium ions and HZE ions, meaning that the event is sometimes a solar particle event. These high energy protons and ions cause several effects. They can penetrate the Earth's magnetic field and cause ionization in the ionosphere. The effect is similar to auroral events, the difference being that electrons and not protons are involved. Energetic solar protons are also a significant radiation hazard to spacecraft and especially astronauts, who can receive large amounts of absorbed dose from the ionizing radiation
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Large solar proton event explains 774-775 CE carbon-14 increase
Mar 15, 2013

Tree ring records indicate that in 774-775 CE, atmospheric carbon-14 levels increased substantially. Researchers suggest that a solar proton event may have been the cause. In solar proton events, large numbers of high-energy protons are emitted from the Sun, along with other particles. If these particles reach Earth's atmosphere, they ionize the atmosphere and induce nuclear reactions that produce higher levels of carbon-14; the particles also cause chemical reactions that result in depletion of ozone in the ozone layer, allowing harmful ultraviolet radiation to reach the ground.
[link to phys.org]


Did A Massive Solar Proton Event Fry The Earth?
[link to www.spacedaily.com]


THIS is why we watch for CMEs more than we should be the flares!!!!
With this proton particle event going on, knowing what it causes from reading what I posted above, NOW is when we should be watching super duper close for a large flare.. that if it ordure's NOW, would effect us a great deal more than it normally would
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Be alert for this proton event charging the storm clouds in the upper atmosphere. this could turn these storms into something much worse!!!

A Violent Sun Effects The Earths Ozone
“A lot of impacts on ozone, like those caused by humans, are very subtle and happen over long periods of time,” says Jackman. “But when these solar proton events occur you can see immediately a change in the atmosphere.”


How Does Solar Activity Affect Weather and Earth?
[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]
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protons at GOES are spiking pretty hard...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
who wants to take bets that we may even see a S4 event??
we 'usually' see the protons rise for at least 24hrs after an event
see here for the last event we had just days back
[link to sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net]

here is a image of the proton flux from a S4+ into a S5 proton event that we had back in 2003
[link to sidc.oma.be]
this gives a good idea on how high and fast the proton level can rise and over what period of time
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Whoa on the 2003. This the same time that there was the power grid failure in CAnada?
 Quoting: whiteangel


March 13, 1989
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.nasa.gov]

here are the readings for March 1989
[link to ars.els-cdn.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


August 14, 2003, just before 4:10 p.m. EDT (UTC−04)
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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ahh ok I thought you ment the Quebec blackout
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everyone watch for a large flare event now! cause if there is one, it will flow almost directly in! because of this particle event

if there is, lets say a M5 flare NOW, it would be equivalent to like a X20 hitting
(no way to be exact, but you get the idea)
because this proton event lowers the shields (read the articles I posted above)

and the protons are still rising, and should continue to rise through at least the next 12hrs. we could be looking at a S3 SEP event

to hard to tell just yet, now its a waiting game, and a lot of monitoring of the solar sensor readings we have
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Yeah I was just thinking we're somewhat sitting ducks after this proton event. That was one of the widest particle releases I can remember seeing.
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Looks like the sun wants to hang on to that ejecta.
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Looks like the sun wants to hang on to that ejecta.
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Whoa on the 2003. This the same time that there was the power grid failure in CAnada?
 Quoting: whiteangel


March 13, 1989
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.nasa.gov]

here are the readings for March 1989
[link to ars.els-cdn.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


August 14, 2003, just before 4:10 p.m. EDT (UTC−04)
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: whiteangel


ahh ok I thought you ment the Quebec blackout
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I get confused on the two events.
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this was a wide CME, wow
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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this was a wide CME, wow
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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:m.5f::cme522:
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Won't take much to punch thru our shields right? Well...

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Won't take much to punch thru our shields right? Well...

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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You still need to watch for CME, flare with no cme is like just lightening, not the storm....
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I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic?

There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all

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Spiking again

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protons are rising too

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I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic?

There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all
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On SO's morning video, he first said the GRB was from Taurus which the Sun is in currently. Then made a side note that if it did come from our sun, we wouldn't necessarily see the difference.
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Of course, you are right: any new science is not going to be fireproof. Our motives are for truth and information dissemination.

At least this is better than NASA's conference back in February when they said that there is absolutely zero risk of any asteroid impact from DA14. The amount of knowledge that NASA does not share is overwhelming.
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This is from a short time ago. Filament?
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Wow i have never seen the d-rap this high in the short time i been watching! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

This spells quake power right?
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Wow i have never seen the d-rap this high in the short time i been watching! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

This spells quake power right?
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Auroras in high latitudes. Now if that read was in the middle, yeah

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Get ready guys. You just got red pinned.
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What is flaring or what on the right side of screen?
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Isaiah 5:20 KJV
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Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One
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I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic?

There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all
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Get ready guys. You just got red pinned.
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Wow i have never seen the d-rap this high in the short time i been watching! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

This spells quake power right?
 Quoting: Citratox


Auroras in high latitudes. Now if that read was in the middle, yeah
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thought this was a no spin zone thread thought you and hugemyeye don't believe solar flares have an effect on earth like causing earthquakes..





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