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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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...tho energetics are about balance, so can be delicate forces. eminatng from a greater source, and so on, fractal, science fits rather well too.
awesome video of sun from free space shared thxs
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[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Southern CH forming/turning in?
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Southern CH forming/turning in?
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Maybe?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
What if the big one up top connects to the southern one potentially forming, theres a weak opening signature in the middle, just thinking out loud.

Western filament lifted or reverted.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]


By the way good work you guys on the phantom energy, GASA at its best!

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[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Southern CH forming/turning in?
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Maybe?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
What if the big one up top connects to the southern one potentially forming, theres a weak opening signature in the middle, just thinking out loud.

Western filament lifted or reverted.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]


By the way good work you guys on the phantom energy, GASA at its best!

rahrah
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Hiya, sonichi thanks for that tip-off on the filament liftoff. I missed that....I'll take a peek and see what became of it.

By the way, I noticed on another thread you stated that we had a Kp9 geomagnetic storm in the past 2 years. I don't recall that one. Do you have a date or any more info on that?
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We may have an Earth-directed CME from that filament lift-off. SOHO coronagraph data is still needed for confirmation but STEREO A shows some plasma leaving the sun now.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

sun-earth-cme
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We may have an Earth-directed CME from that filament lift-off. SOHO coronagraph data is still needed for confirmation but STEREO A shows some plasma leaving the sun now.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

:sun-earth-cme:
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bump

Please forgive my retarded questions (again) but is this new, as in not related to the glancing blow we may recieve today / tomoz?

What sunspot number do you think its from?


cool good work, I ment to thank you for answering my stupid questions last time.
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[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Southern CH forming/turning in?
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Maybe?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
What if the big one up top connects to the southern one potentially forming, theres a weak opening signature in the middle, just thinking out loud.

Western filament lifted or reverted.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]


By the way good work you guys on the phantom energy, GASA at its best!

rahrah
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Hiya, sonichi thanks for that tip-off on the filament liftoff. I missed that....I'll take a peek and see what became of it.

By the way, I noticed on another thread you stated that we had a Kp9 geomagnetic storm in the past 2 years. I don't recall that one. Do you have a date or any more info on that?
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I was off by a tad , it was the high 8 low 9 in sept. of 2011, from a CME if my numbers are right. I'll double check this as I rely way to much on scribbles and a lagging mind.

The filament liftoff had a mid equator partner, unison lift

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We may have an Earth-directed CME from that filament lift-off. SOHO coronagraph data is still needed for confirmation but STEREO A shows some plasma leaving the sun now.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

sun-earth-cme
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bump

Please forgive my retarded questions (again) but is this new, as in not related to the glancing blow we may recieve today / tomoz?

What sunspot number do you think its from?


cool good work, I ment to thank you for answering my stupid questions last time.
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Hey, thanks for posting...there are no stupid questions (well maybe a few) here. Yes, this is a recent event and plasma is now leaving the sun and won't reach us for 3 days or so. This eruption was not associated with any flares or sunspot activity, but was the result of a magnetic filament liftoff.

More on filaments (a/k/a prominences) here:

[link to solar.physics.montana.edu]

[link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov]
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Hey, thanks for posting...there are no stupid questions (well maybe a few) here. Yes, this is a recent event and plasma is now leaving the sun and won't reach us for 3 days or so. This eruption was not associated with any flares or sunspot activity, but was the result of a magnetic filament liftoff.

More on filaments (a/k/a prominences) here:

[link to solar.physics.montana.edu]

[link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov]
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Ahhh me comprende Thanks mate, Legend :-)
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Great barriers do exist in space and Voyager may have reached one: now what?

Posted on June 29, 2013by The Extinction Protocol

June 29, 2013 – SPACE – Launched 36 years ago, the Voyager 1 spacecraft speeds a rate of about a million miles a day entering a bizarre and mysterious region more than 11 billion miles from Earth that scientists are struggling to make sense of. It’s a region where the fierce solar winds have all but vanished and pieces of atoms blasted across the galaxy by ancient supernovae drift into the solar system, the NASA probe is causing scientists to question some long-standing theories on the nature of our solar system and life beyond its cold dark edge dubbed the “magnetic highway” –a newly discovered area of the heliosphere, the vast bubble of magnetism that shields the solar system from deadly cosmic rays. Scientists had long envisioned this outermost layer of the solar systems, the heliosheath, to be a curved, distinct boundary separating the solar system from the rest of the Milky Way where three things would happen: The sun’s solar winds would become quiet; galactic cosmic rays would bombard Voyager; and the direction of the dominant magnetic field would change significantly because it would be coming from interstellar space, not the sun. “The models that have been thought to predict what should happen are all incorrect,” said physicist Stamatios Krimigis of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory Scientists had assumed when Voyager exited the heliosphere, the vast bubble of magnetism surrounding the solar system, solar winds would become still, galactic cosmic rays would bombard Voyager from every angle and the direction of the magnetic field would change because it would be coming from interstellar space, not the sun.

But the latest readings from Voyagers instruments support none of those suppositions, scientists said. Voyager has reported solar winds suddenly dropped by half, while the strength of the magnetic field almost doubled, and those values then switched back and forth five times before they became fixed. “The jumps indicate multiple crossings of a boundary unlike anything observed previously,” a team of Voyager scientists wrote in one a study. Voyager did detect the expected increase in galactic cosmic rays but found at times the rays were moving in parallel instead of traveling randomly. “This was conceptually unthinkable for cosmic rays,” Stamatios Krimigis, a solar physicist at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Md., told the Los Angeles Times. “There is no cosmic ray physicist I know who ever expected that they would not all be coming equally from all directions.” Whether Voyager 1 — which launched in 1977 — has truly left the solar system has been a matter of some debate, because scientists have come up with competing theories on what constitutes in outermost edge. “We’re not free yet,” Krimigis said. “This is a new region that we didn’t know existed. We have no road map, and we’re waiting to see what’s going to happen next.” –Daily Galaxy [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


Last night I ran across one of the articles about this. It really is mind blowing, not just for me (with my low level space knowledge) but evidently for the NASA scientists also.
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Solar flare in progress.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Looks like a C2.3, nothing to see here.

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Solar flare in progress.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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hf
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Good morning everyone
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Good morning, shenue, we have a flare for you.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Solar flare in progress.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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hf
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Impulsive C2.7 from what appears to be a re-emerging 1780. AR1780 was downgraded to a plage a couple days ago....well, he's making a comeback.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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Sunspot number: 67


Sunspot count back on the drop, who needs em anyway when we have these hyders and CHS.


Earth facing flaring just won't happen, ironically during all this the earth is not as affected as the other planets.


I don't know who or what is gonna keep that going though.


As you can see from a day ago, it don't take much anymore.

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EARTH-DIRECTED CME....Update.

The earlier double-shot filament liftoffs produced a CME(s) which was very well-positioned to become geo-effective. Although this event didn't even register a B-flare and the CME wasn't huge as CME's go, it may well be aimed right at Earth.

NASA Cone Model:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

STEREO Ahead image (Earth is to the left):

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

NOAA comments-
"There were a couple of coronal mass ejections (CMEs) observed on Lasco C2
imagery at 30/0608 and STEREO Ahead COR2 imagery at approximately
30/0209 UTC. Preliminary analysis indicated there is an Earthward
directed component of the CME,
however further analysis will be
conducted after gaps in imagery coverage fills in to determine timing
and magnitude of the CME impact.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

STEREO A Cor 2 movie of CME:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SOHO imagery not yet available! (Hey, it's the weekend, give 'em a break! LOL)
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another pop up...
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Another minor C Flare, looks like.
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EARTH-DIRECTED CME....Update.

The earlier double-shot filament liftoffs produced a CME(s) which was very well-positioned to become geo-effective. Although this event didn't even register a B-flare and the CME wasn't huge as CME's go, it may well be aimed right at Earth.

NASA Cone Model:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

STEREO Ahead image (Earth is to the left):

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

NOAA comments-
"There were a couple of coronal mass ejections (CMEs) observed on Lasco C2
imagery at 30/0608 and STEREO Ahead COR2 imagery at approximately
30/0209 UTC. Preliminary analysis indicated there is an Earthward
directed component of the CME,
however further analysis will be
conducted after gaps in imagery coverage fills in to determine timing
and magnitude of the CME impact.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

STEREO A Cor 2 movie of CME:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SOHO imagery not yet available! (Hey, it's the weekend, give 'em a break! LOL)
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SEEDS movie of CME:
[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]

:6/30-cme:
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A C2.0 pop-up just now. Are all these earth directed and out of the same spot?
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A C2.0 pop-up just now. Are all these earth directed and out of the same spot?
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[link to www.youtube.com]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......
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A C2.0 pop-up just now. Are all these earth directed and out of the same spot?
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They all appear to be from some newly-emerging flux (possibly a re-emergence of 1780) that's between AR1777 & AR1778 in the SW.

Mauna Loa Obty. H-alpha movie:
[link to halpha.nso.edu]

Emerging Flux in SW Quadrant-
:6/30-flux:



If we look at the 48-hr mpeg. from SDO we'll see that this spot group wasn't even there yesterday. Also note the growth of 1781 in the north and the fading-away of 1778 in the south.

SDO-HMI 48-hr movie:

[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]

SDO Image of C2 Flare at 171a-
:6/30-Cflares:
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Great barriers do exist in space and Voyager may have reached one: now what?

Posted on June 29, 2013by The Extinction Protocol

June 29, 2013 – SPACE – Launched 36 years ago, the Voyager 1 spacecraft speeds a rate of about a million miles a day entering a bizarre and mysterious region more than 11 billion miles from Earth that scientists are struggling to make sense of. It’s a region where the fierce solar winds have all but vanished and pieces of atoms blasted across the galaxy by ancient supernovae drift into the solar system, the NASA probe is causing scientists to question some long-standing theories on the nature of our solar system and life beyond its cold dark edge dubbed the “magnetic highway” –a newly discovered area of the heliosphere, the vast bubble of magnetism that shields the solar system from deadly cosmic rays. Scientists had long envisioned this outermost layer of the solar systems, the heliosheath, to be a curved, distinct boundary separating the solar system from the rest of the Milky Way where three things would happen: The sun’s solar winds would become quiet; galactic cosmic rays would bombard Voyager; and the direction of the dominant magnetic field would change significantly because it would be coming from interstellar space, not the sun. “The models that have been thought to predict what should happen are all incorrect,” said physicist Stamatios Krimigis of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory Scientists had assumed when Voyager exited the heliosphere, the vast bubble of magnetism surrounding the solar system, solar winds would become still, galactic cosmic rays would bombard Voyager from every angle and the direction of the magnetic field would change because it would be coming from interstellar space, not the sun.

But the latest readings from Voyagers instruments support none of those suppositions, scientists said. Voyager has reported solar winds suddenly dropped by half, while the strength of the magnetic field almost doubled, and those values then switched back and forth five times before they became fixed. “The jumps indicate multiple crossings of a boundary unlike anything observed previously,” a team of Voyager scientists wrote in one a study. Voyager did detect the expected increase in galactic cosmic rays but found at times the rays were moving in parallel instead of traveling randomly. “This was conceptually unthinkable for cosmic rays,” Stamatios Krimigis, a solar physicist at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Md., told the Los Angeles Times. “There is no cosmic ray physicist I know who ever expected that they would not all be coming equally from all directions.” Whether Voyager 1 — which launched in 1977 — has truly left the solar system has been a matter of some debate, because scientists have come up with competing theories on what constitutes in outermost edge. “We’re not free yet,” Krimigis said. “This is a new region that we didn’t know existed. We have no road map, and we’re waiting to see what’s going to happen next.” –Daily Galaxy [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


Last night I ran across one of the articles about this. It really is mind blowing, not just for me (with my low level space knowledge) but evidently for the NASA scientists also.
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I read that also Shenue and felt the significance. I especially love the part about the cosmic rays travelling parallel rather than randomly from all directions. That means to me, there are bodies out there opposed sending and receiving rays bi-directionally, i.e., intelligently???
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OK, OK, a G3 Strong Geomagnetic Storm was caused by a CME that nobody saw coming. WTF?

According to NOAA the CH windstream hasn't arrived yet, so they roll out the old 'co-rotating interaction region' and 'transient' excuses because they don't know what happened either, LOL.

By 'transient' I believe they're referring to the hobos who hang around in Boulder this time of year'. Seriously tho', it means 'a CME we didn't see coming'

NOAA says-
Geospace

.24 hr Summary...
Geomagnetic field activity ranged from unsettled to severe storm levels.
The increase in activity is likely attributed to a slow moving transient
combined with the effects from a corotating interaction region ahead of
the expected recurrent CH HSS.


.Forecast...
Geomagnetic field activity is expected to be at major storm levels to
begin the current forecast period, but decrease to unsettled to active
levels by the end of day 1 (29 Jun). Activity should remain at unsettled
levels with minor storm conditions expected on day 2 (30 Jun) due to
effects associated with a 5-degree filament that erupted during 28/0129
- 0250 UTC time-frame. This activity should be short lived
and
conditions should begin a steady decline back to quiet to unsettled
levels by midday on day three (1 Jul).

24-hour Magnetopause Simulation:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

GOES Magnetometer:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Maybe they should get out their protractors and figure out where earth is in relation to the change in position of Stereo A and B. My understanding is they are both, now more or less "behind" the sun. This would help them understand that these cme's ARE earth directed.
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Voyager did detect the expected increase in galactic cosmic rays but found at times the rays were moving in parallel instead of traveling randomly. “This was conceptually unthinkable for cosmic rays,”Stamatios Krimigis, a solar physicist at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Md., told the Los Angeles Times. “There is no cosmic ray physicist I know who ever expected that they would not all be coming equally from all directions.” Whether Voyager 1 — which launched in 1977 — has truly left the solar system has been a matter of some debate, because scientists have come up with competing theories on what constitutes in outermost edge. “We’re not free yet,” Krimigis said.
 Quoting: Luisport


i believe paul la violette says such, and they eminate from galactic centre.
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Hi rp, I'm just catching up and see your post. This is what caught my attention as well. Thanks for La Violette's perspective. I do wonder when they say travelling parallel, parallel to what? The Voyager craft? To me, in a sense, everything travels in parallel to something in space, right?
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Great vid Hugh, thanks. Love how that group appeared out of nowhere.
[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]
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S0's news today was very informative for those who are interested.


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Voyager did detect the expected increase in galactic cosmic rays but found at times the rays were moving in parallel instead of traveling randomly. “This was conceptually unthinkable for cosmic rays,”Stamatios Krimigis, a solar physicist at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Md., told the Los Angeles Times. “There is no cosmic ray physicist I know who ever expected that they would not all be coming equally from all directions.” Whether Voyager 1 — which launched in 1977 — has truly left the solar system has been a matter of some debate, because scientists have come up with competing theories on what constitutes in outermost edge. “We’re not free yet,” Krimigis said.
 Quoting: Luisport


i believe paul la violette says such, and they eminate from galactic centre.
rp
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42536935


Hi rp, I'm just catching up and see your post. This is what caught my attention as well. Thanks for La Violette's perspective. I do wonder when they say travelling parallel, parallel to what? The Voyager craft? To me, in a sense, everything travels in parallel to something in space, right?
 Quoting: Isis One


Hi everyone!!!
I read the article too. I always go back to...as above so below...currents....water currents, wind currents, jet streams,(black holes are like whirlpools) and tides. I really believe in my heart all these things are part of the puzzle.
I don't understand the thought of a chaotic universe, when the galaxies move like hurricanes(with an eye) and solar systems do the same with the sun as the eye within the galazy. The galaxies are floating on a universal sea that coud very well ebb and flow. This can be impacted by wind and waves that cause surges perhaps from from grb's, explosions and other curiosities we have yet to discover.

On a heavier note...I think S0 news and the refresher on the behavior of the planets is jarring.
Love & Light...





GLP