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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
Hugh M Eye

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ISON is still seen in this cone model of the inner planets, but I can't get the CME on there at this time:

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Look under 'Heliosphere' for more cone models:

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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ISON is still seen in this cone model of the inner planets, but I can't get the CME on there at this time:

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Look under 'Heliosphere' for more cone models:

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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I saw ISon under Mars,...I got a blank page when I clicked heliosphere.

Anyway, gotta go, have a great day Hugh,...thank you for being you.


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Howdy, Z, yes, er..uh..maybe, haha. ISON just passed Mars which is where that CME is headed. I don't have a definitive 3D map showing the position of ISON and the CME in relation to the ecliptic plane. If the comet is presently near or slightly north of the ecliptic it will probably get slammed by this energetic CME.
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Thanks Hugh, I was checking out the pics of ISON you posted and am left wondering why in the hell they hyped this thing so much?

Holmes was 10 times better in visibility and whatnot,... and received little to zero build up or main stream press.

Hm,...

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I'm in complete agreement with you there. In the past year we had two lovely comets, Lemmon and PanSTARRS which got very little attention. I think the potential prospect of a huge tail as this comet is projected to graze the sun's corona in November gave NASA "irrational exuberance". I still hope we see a nice show whether it's naked-eye or by way of SDO, SOHO and STEREO.
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CHINA TESTING NEW SPACE WEAPONS-

China last week conducted a test of a maneuvering satellite that captured another satellite in space during what Pentagon officials say was a significant step forward for Beijing’s space warfare program.

The satellite capture took place last week and involved one of three small satellites fitted with a mechanical arm that were launched July 20 as part of a covert anti-satellite weapons development program, said U.S. officials familiar with reports of the test.

One official described the satellite-grabbing spacecraft as a “mobile satellite launch vehicle.”

(snip)...Rick Fisher, a Chinese military affairs specialist, said the robot-arm satellite that he believes is the Shiyan-7 is part of China’s dual-use space program that includes satellites for military close-surveillance and attack missions. Civilian applications include development of space manipulator arm technology.

“As an ASAT, a future version of the SY-7 could be used to take close-up images of U.S. satellites, to remove systems from those satellites and return them to China, to directly damage U.S. satellites or to plant ‘mines’ on those satellites or close nearby,” said Fisher, with the International Assessment and Strategy Center.

[link to freebeacon.com]

Can't you smell the DOOM?
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Is the ACE high energy protons (SIS) instrument now damaged by the last cme? The plot looks terrible:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Is the ACE high energy protons (SIS) instrument now damaged by the last cme? The plot looks terrible:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37159590


I was just noticing the repetitive pattern on the SIS graph. I think it was June 2012 where it had a pattern for a few days. First glance at the chart today, and I immediately thought of the Time Wave Zero chart.

Looks like we are still in a geomagnetic storm from the filament arrival.
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Is the ACE high energy protons (SIS) instrument now damaged by the last cme? The plot looks terrible:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37159590


I was just noticing the repetitive pattern on the SIS graph. I think it was June 2012 where it had a pattern for a few days. First glance at the chart today, and I immediately thought of the Time Wave Zero chart.

Looks like we are still in a geomagnetic storm from the filament arrival.
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Next thing that comes to my mind is some kind of a "ripple" effect in the imf caused by the plasma cloud and being detected as highs and lows on SIS... I guess we'll know for sure in a few days.
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I am so nauseas today, with a mild headache...is there a CME hitting right now? Something else off kilter?

I have no fever, no other-end problems, so it's likely not the flu or food poisoning, that's why I'm asking.

This sure feels like it does when we're getting slammed, but I'm not seeing any threads about it, like usual if there is one.

Thanks to whoever will be able to answer for me...hf
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I am so nauseas today, with a mild headache...is there a CME hitting right now? Something else off kilter?

I have no fever, no other-end problems, so it's likely not the flu or food poisoning, that's why I'm asking.

This sure feels like it does when we're getting slammed, but I'm not seeing any threads about it, like usual if there is one.

Thanks to whoever will be able to answer for me...hf
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


No Earth-directed cmes only one Mars-directed and one Venus/Mercury-directed (both away from Earth). Check this page [link to sol24.net] (click on the ENLIL links to check the last cme direction and size.
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I am so nauseas today, with a mild headache...is there a CME hitting right now? Something else off kilter?

I have no fever, no other-end problems, so it's likely not the flu or food poisoning, that's why I'm asking.

This sure feels like it does when we're getting slammed, but I'm not seeing any threads about it, like usual if there is one.

Thanks to whoever will be able to answer for me...hf
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No Earth-directed cmes only one Mars-directed and one Venus/Mercury-directed (both away from Earth). Check this page [link to sol24.net] (click on the ENLIL links to check the last cme direction and size.
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Okay. I've bookmarked the site. Thanks!

Weird, though. This I'm feeling feels exactly like when a CME is blowin' the door down.


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[link to halpha.nso.edu]
1856,1857 lighting up

@ C 1.7
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[link to halpha.nso.edu]
1856,1857 lighting up

@ C 1.7
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Yep, '56 I think. Things may be perking up.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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[link to halpha.nso.edu]
1856,1857 lighting up

@ C 1.7
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Yep, '56 I think. Things may be perking up.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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[link to s18.postimg.org]

I put the images on top of each other, really shows where activity is happening
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[link to halpha.nso.edu]
1856,1857 lighting up

@ C 1.7
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17754867


Yep, '56 I think. Things may be perking up.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


[link to s18.postimg.org]

I put the images on top of each other, really shows where activity is happening
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Thanks, that's very cool. Great job.

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CACTus Details for yesterday's Mars-directed CME. It was much slower than I thought, so I don't know how long it will take to reach Comet ISON. The SE filament CME can be seen near the end of loop:

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

AR1856 Magnetogram-
:10/3-1856mag:

AR1857 Magnetogram-
:10/3-1857mag:
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Woo Hoo! Northern Lights were visible here again. And, someone took a picture (not me, but at least I know I'm not crazy or need to get my eyes checked).

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Woo Hoo! Northern Lights were visible here again. And, someone took a picture (not me, but at least I know I'm not crazy or need to get my eyes checked).

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Wow, I'm so glad you caught them, SouthernOR! banana2hf I think we'll see a lot more in the next few months....at least I'm hoping. Thanks for your report, friend.
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Is the ACE high energy protons (SIS) instrument now damaged by the last cme? The plot looks terrible:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37159590


Nice find, AC Bulgaria. cheers It's definitely weird but I don't see any bad data on the other ACE plots, so I don't think the detectors are damaged. ACE is getting quite old and has seen a lot of radiation; so maybe only the SIS Hi-energy Proton sensor is having a hangover from the SPE radiation storm. Hopefully someone in-the-know will chime in with a rational explanation.

ACE SIS 7-Day Plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

ACE SIS 3-Day Plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

ACE SIS 24-Hour Plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

ACE SIS 6-Hour plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

The oscillation appears to have about an hour-and-fifteen minutes between peaks. I have no idea what could cause this pattern to persist so long....it's a mystery to me. Thanks for noticing and posting; it may turn out to be significant. Peace.
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Woo Hoo! Northern Lights were visible here again. And, someone took a picture (not me, but at least I know I'm not crazy or need to get my eyes checked).

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Nice.

I am too damn far south I guess cry



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Woo Hoo! Northern Lights were visible here again. And, someone took a picture (not me, but at least I know I'm not crazy or need to get my eyes checked).

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Southern OR


Wow, I'm so glad you caught them, SouthernOR! banana2hf I think we'll see a lot more in the next few months....at least I'm hoping. Thanks for your report, friend.
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I just found another great gallery of aurora photos from the past two nights:

[link to www.accuweather.com]
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Woo Hoo! Northern Lights were visible here again. And, someone took a picture (not me, but at least I know I'm not crazy or need to get my eyes checked).

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Southern OR


Wow, I'm so glad you caught them, SouthernOR! banana2hf I think we'll see a lot more in the next few months....at least I'm hoping. Thanks for your report, friend.
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I just found another great gallery of aurora photos from the past two nights:

[link to www.accuweather.com]
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One day Hugh we'll see them dancing right above our heads. That would be something. Good night . Peace to all.
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One day Hugh we'll see them dancing right above our heads. That would be something. Good night . Peace to all.
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Later Shad.

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Edit to add: Hot damn those lights are sweet!!!
Finland was out of control!

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Woo Hoo! Northern Lights were visible here again. And, someone took a picture (not me, but at least I know I'm not crazy or need to get my eyes checked).

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 Quoting: Southern OR


Wow, I'm so glad you caught them, SouthernOR! banana2hf I think we'll see a lot more in the next few months....at least I'm hoping. Thanks for your report, friend.
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I just found another great gallery of aurora photos from the past two nights:

[link to www.accuweather.com]
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Wow! Those are gorgeous!!! What I saw was such a beautiful green shimmer running vertically. When I saw it I said "Girl, you need to stop letting GLP make you crazy. Or maybe you need to get your eyes checked or clean those damn windows on the side of the house." Nice to know it was real.
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rphunter posted this link to Comet Enke's tail breaking up on Astro's Ison thread. I thought it was soo cool.

[link to disasterpredictions.com]
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Solarsoft-SDO close-up movie of last night's filament eruption and CME in the SE. Most likely not geo-effective, but I can't see it because SOHO and STEREO weren't awake at the time; and NASA isn't filling in the missing SOHO data due to government shutdown, I guess.

Note: the jerky motions are due to the satellite roll maneuver which happened during that time frame.

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

The other CME (the big one on the NW limb) seems to be headed straight at Comet ISON! We may see the comet brighten significantly in about 3 days (or possibly fall apart).

iSWA Enlil Cone model cygnet:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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Thread: What happens if Ison gets hit with today's CME?
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Nice C flare, from mid eastern limb, it looks like

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me

One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide
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For the C2.5
Earths relation to the sun:
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Here is EVE:
[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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I have been on a vacation to burning man and then a 10 day road trip to southern Oregon...wish that I was still there to see the northern lights.

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A Pale Red Dot --The Most Distant Object in the Universe
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this explains the position of JUNO
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Here's some news you might not hear from NASA because, like much of the US government, the space agency is closed. NASA's Juno spacecraft will slingshot past Earth on October 9th for a velocity boost en route to Jupiter. At closest approach the spacecraft will be only 347 miles from Earth as it gains an extra 16,000 mph for the long journey ahead.
[link to missionjuno.swri.edu]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Unfortunately, 1856 and 57 on the Eastern half of sol aren't developing like I was hoping they would, but they still look more promising than we've had in a couple months.


On the other hand 1858 in the East developed into a beautifully complex SR as it swings out, we'll have to watch for it as it rotates back in in a week or so.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Filaments and CHs are unusually absent, except for an area mid disc that may be developing ...


We shall see hf





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