Evacuation in Progress: Japan Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Plant Nears Meltdown. | |
Monkeyfister User ID: 1248075 United States 03/11/2011 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any models on where the vented stuff will go? Quoting: OpenEndedright now, the Prevailing winds are blowing West to East... out to sea, toward US. As summer warms the Sea of Japan, it swirls around, and then blows East to West (toward the Asian mainland-- Koreas and China). "I'm the bride at every funeral, I'm the corpse at every wedding..." --Brother Theodore ... and don't blame me-- I voted for Bob Barr in 2008. Only COWARDS hide behind anonymous Karma. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 856055 United States 03/11/2011 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1249903 Italy 03/11/2011 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Big clue, dudes in hard hats and white coats, running down the street. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290648THE CORE OF THE REACTOR IS MELTING DOWN! I CAN ALSO OVER-REACT AS WELL! LOOK AT ME, DAMN IT! Fucking hell. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1257580 United States 03/11/2011 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any models on where the vented stuff will go? Quoting: OpenEndedYes. In the US, a program called RASCAL (Radiological Assessment System for Consequence Analysis) is used - Japan would use it or something similar. Plug in the source terms, meteorological conditions and it will crank out a pretty good projection of where stuff goes and where people should leave, shelter or do nothing. |
DiskSpaceFull User ID: 1287265 United Kingdom 03/11/2011 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I reckon an 'after shock' has a very good chance of blowing that containment building wide open with that internal pressure sitting behind it. Last Edited by DiskSpaceFull on 03/11/2011 02:19 PM |
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OpenEnded User ID: 1289289 United States 03/11/2011 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any models on where the vented stuff will go? Quoting: OpenEndedYes. In the US, a program called RASCAL (Radiological Assessment System for Consequence Analysis) is used - Japan would use it or something similar. Plug in the source terms, meteorological conditions and it will crank out a pretty good projection of where stuff goes and where people should leave, shelter or do nothing. link? There's hope or not isn't the question, there is only the road |
Woodsprite User ID: 1291981 United States 03/11/2011 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was watching the Prez. speak a bit ago... I think the timing of the speech is unusual if there isn't bad stuff happening behind the scenes, on a couple of fronts. The way he avoided really answering questions about what is happening with this reactor...if all is going well, why not say more than just 'Our people are in contact with theirs", and 'We're there to help"? I also found it strange that suddenly he's out talking about how we have enough oil , not to panic about supplies ( Does he know something we don't about the ME?) Also noticed when he was talking about energy alternatives, Nuclear was moved to the very last thing mentioned.( used to be that it was the 'best ' way to get around the energy problem...now it's last?!) It straight up gave me the creeps watching it... There is something really bad happening there... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1257580 United States 03/11/2011 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any models on where the vented stuff will go? Quoting: OpenEndedYes. In the US, a program called RASCAL (Radiological Assessment System for Consequence Analysis) is used - Japan would use it or something similar. Plug in the source terms, meteorological conditions and it will crank out a pretty good projection of where stuff goes and where people should leave, shelter or do nothing. link? [link to rsicc.ornl.gov] 3.0.5&id=C00553&cpu=PC586&v=10&t=Radiological Assessment for Consequence Analysis for Windows. |
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OpenEnded User ID: 1289289 United States 03/11/2011 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257580 thanks but I was hoping for something more user friendly :) There's hope or not isn't the question, there is only the road |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1257580 United States 03/11/2011 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257580 thanks but I was hoping for something more user friendly :) That IS the most user-friendly of the bunch :D There are places that run this stuff for a living, and they will have maps out showing the projected paths of any plumes. At least they would in the US. No idea what the equivalent Japanese resources are, but suspect they have something similar. Without knowing the source terms, any simulations are useless. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1164524 United States 03/11/2011 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Underscoring grave concerns about the Fukushima plant some 240 km (150 miles) north of Tokyo, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the U.S. air force had delivered coolant to avert a rise in the temperature of the facility's nuclear rods. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279459Tokyo Electric Power Co said pressure inside a reactor at its Fukushima-Daiichi plant rose after the cooling system was knocked out by the earthquake, the largest on record in Japan. Kyodo news agency quoted the company as saying that the radiation level was rising in the turbine building and the pressure had risen to 1.5 times the designed capacity. I was watching Headline News and noone in the Air Force or Pentagon can confirm that they delivered any type of coolant .... hummmm Besides isn't the coolant for a reactor ..... water?? So if this is true the Air Force delivered water.... I wonder if it was bottled??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1257580 United States 03/11/2011 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Underscoring grave concerns about the Fukushima plant some 240 km (150 miles) north of Tokyo, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the U.S. air force had delivered coolant to avert a rise in the temperature of the facility's nuclear rods. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279459Tokyo Electric Power Co said pressure inside a reactor at its Fukushima-Daiichi plant rose after the cooling system was knocked out by the earthquake, the largest on record in Japan. Kyodo news agency quoted the company as saying that the radiation level was rising in the turbine building and the pressure had risen to 1.5 times the designed capacity. I was watching Headline News and noone in the Air Force or Pentagon can confirm that they delivered any type of coolant .... hummmm Besides isn't the coolant for a reactor ..... water?? So if this is true the Air Force delivered water.... I wonder if it was bottled??? I'm not sure I would be looking to any politician for anything accurate about a technically complex situation ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1164524 United States 03/11/2011 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Underscoring grave concerns about the Fukushima plant some 240 km (150 miles) north of Tokyo, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the U.S. air force had delivered coolant to avert a rise in the temperature of the facility's nuclear rods. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279459Tokyo Electric Power Co said pressure inside a reactor at its Fukushima-Daiichi plant rose after the cooling system was knocked out by the earthquake, the largest on record in Japan. Kyodo news agency quoted the company as saying that the radiation level was rising in the turbine building and the pressure had risen to 1.5 times the designed capacity. I was watching Headline News and noone in the Air Force or Pentagon can confirm that they delivered any type of coolant .... hummmm Besides isn't the coolant for a reactor ..... water?? So if this is true the Air Force delivered water.... I wonder if it was bottled??? I'm not sure I would be looking to any politician for anything accurate about a technically complex situation ;) True... so very true!!!!! |
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AZRainman (OP) User ID: 1267406 United States 03/11/2011 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | U.S. Rushes Coolant to Japanese Nuke Plant After Earthquake Defense Ministry official Ippo Maeyama said the ministry has dispatched dozens of troops trained for chemical disasters to the Fukushima plant in case of a radiation leak, along with four vehicles designed for use in atomic, biological and chemical warfare. [link to www.foxnews.com] |
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OpenEnded User ID: 1289289 United States 03/11/2011 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Initially I was optimistic that they would be able to provide the needed water to cool down the fuel rods....however, now I really think the reactor is going to meltdown or blow- take your pick. Quoting: SAWUFOS 1194053they can still fix it, japanese are pretty smart.. There's hope or not isn't the question, there is only the road |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 03/11/2011 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Initially I was optimistic that they would be able to provide the needed water to cool down the fuel rods....however, now I really think the reactor is going to meltdown or blow- take your pick. Quoting: SAWUFOS 1194053they can still fix it, japanese are pretty smart.. All the genius in the world can't fix shit without the proper equipment and supplies... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
ifSHTF User ID: 1058936 United States 03/11/2011 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what if they just rule it a lost cause - cant they contain it or encapsulate it before it blows? or implode it somehow? if only we had some of that red anti-matter from star trek... it helped the romulans remove unwanted portions of vulcan from the planet. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1164524 United States 03/11/2011 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Initially I was optimistic that they would be able to provide the needed water to cool down the fuel rods....however, now I really think the reactor is going to meltdown or blow- take your pick. Quoting: SAWUFOS 1194053they can still fix it, japanese are pretty smart.. All the genius in the world can't fix shit without the proper equipment and supplies... Time to send in MacGyver |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 983137 Netherlands 03/11/2011 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Send in BP to cap it. Well, BP probably hopingfor a bigger disaster that the GOM disaster though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185601here ya go IMAGE ( [link to i94.photobucket.com] ) put that on there, all is well.. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 03/11/2011 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Initially I was optimistic that they would be able to provide the needed water to cool down the fuel rods....however, now I really think the reactor is going to meltdown or blow- take your pick. Quoting: SAWUFOS 1194053they can still fix it, japanese are pretty smart.. All the genius in the world can't fix shit without the proper equipment and supplies... Time to send in MacGyver All he'll need is a paperclip and some string... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Deej User ID: 1279781 United States 03/11/2011 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Initially I was optimistic that they would be able to provide the needed water to cool down the fuel rods....however, now I really think the reactor is going to meltdown or blow- take your pick. Quoting: SAWUFOS 1194053they can still fix it, japanese are pretty smart.. All the genius in the world can't fix shit without the proper equipment and supplies... Time to send in MacGyver Right! He'd fix it... and what the hell? where's Superman when you need him? Last Edited by Deej on 03/11/2011 03:56 PM No matter what happens... just say "Thank You." - D W Fierce |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1256981 United States 03/11/2011 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237762 I still say they're PRE-SHOCKS! Just like the 7.2 on Wednesday was.... |
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