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whats NHK?
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From Rueters: Reactor #3 is cooling. # 1 still a threat.
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OK ALL!!!!

Chernobyl or China Syndrome??

Looking more like China Syndrom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238802


China Syndrome x 2 (at least)

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Anyone have a comment on this analysis?

Naoto Sekimura, a professor at the University of Tokyo, said a major radioactive disaster was unlikely.

“No Chernobyl is possible at a light water reactor. Loss of coolant means a temperature rise, but it also will stop the reaction,” he said.

“Even in the worst-case scenario, that would mean some radioactive leakage and equipment damage, but not an explosion. If venting is done carefully, there will be little leakage. Certainly not beyond the 3km radius.”

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290825


An hour ago, the government expanded the evacuation area from 3km to 10km.

And "loss of coolant will stop the reaction"???? What brand of sake has Professor Sekimura been drinking?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292702


Without water to bounce off of and back into the fuel to create more fission, the reaction does actually slow down
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ah, it was a long time ago in Amarillo, Texas. someone dropped an industrial sized wrench on a winch onto the cone of nuke bomb and it cracked. people died immediately. other people got sick and died eventually. it was covered up. 10,000 people and the Baptist preacher tried to get justice. so many kids in that area got leukemia.

we left town within two hours. 3 women, 4 dogs, 4 kids, 2 cats. all crammed in a station wagon. left all our Stuff. didn't care. glad to just save our lives. gay guys two doors left town at the same time, too. seems we were the only people in that area who immediately Got It.

snow on the ground and 20 below, but it felt like it was 120 degrees. sweat running down our bodies, our clothes soaked. burning. we felt as if we were burning alive.

the air felt like hate.

unbelievable hate.

hit 50 miles out, and Yes . . . it dropped off. no more unmitigated hate no more burning.

remember that. 50 miles. 100 miles Even Better. really gone.

green pus came out of our eyes, our kids and pets eyes for months. we coughed and coughed and coughed green crap for months.

sick, weak. herbs. food. rest. love. holding together. so sick.

there is more. can't say. sad memory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292270


green pus coming out of you eyes was it, and you coughed up some green stuff did you and some herbs helped, hey, did you sing Kum ba Ya as well?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292629


for months and months and want to lay down and die so sick. weak like a newborn. your compassion is great. i took those herbs for years and years. i got lumps. i had almost all of my white cells destroyed. i have no immune system pretty much. like a person with AIDS. no immunity.

let's see pneumonia, pneumonia, pneumonia, flu, flu, flu, meningitis, colds, bronchitis,

wrecked health. get it? for like about 35 years now. your compassion is great.

has some sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292270


So, what happened to the rest of your family. And can you share more? I mean, it's been 35 years...like, what happened to all the poeple who stayed in that little town? what happened to the town?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290557


you can look it up on the net probably. just type in Pantex accident. you may not get the whole story, but enough. lots of kids died from leukemia and adults from cancers.

but Amarillo is still there, and Pantex closed down.
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From Japanese Translation: [link to headlines.yahoo.co.jp]

Core melt or cause a nuclear power plant
Unit 1 = Hukushima
NISA 12th, the first nuclear power plant Unit 1,
Fukushima announced that most likely is going meltdown.

(Newsletter)


Primary or core meltdown in the discovery of cesium
in the vicinity of the first-Hukushima - NISA

Newsletter March 12 (Sat) 11:14 delivery

Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency Ministry of Economy,
Trade and Industry on August 12, the first nuclear power
plant damaged by earthquake Toukyoudenryoku Hukuzima East
(town Ookuma Fukushima Futaba town) in Unit 1, soluble in hot
fuel rods "meltdown" has occurred likely announced.


According to NISA, No. 1 around the detection of
radioactive cesium on NIRS team. Cesium is contained in
nuclear fuel rods, because of its high melting point, it is
estimated that the likely cause meltdown.


According to the Safety Agency, said nuclear power plant
Unit 1 reactor water level decreased from 12 am. Temporarily
exposed surface of the cooling water from nuclear fuel rods
were damaged nuclear fuel is a concern.

.
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OK ALL!!!!

Chernobyl or China Syndrome??

Looking more like China Syndrom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238802


China Syndrome.... the reactor doesn't have the power intensity with all of its control rods inserted to create a Chernobyl situation.
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Anybody got an NHK stream that isn't silverlight based?
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rt is reporting korean pennisula china japan may be affected by fallout and this is a much more powerful station than cheyrnoble <sp?> but has a protective dome incase of event but not sure if security systems will work i didnt hear anything about the us but they were saying winds are out of the west right now [link to www.youtube.com]
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OK ALL!!!!

Chernobyl or China Syndrome??

Looking more like China Syndrom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238802


China Syndrome x 2 (at least)
 Quoting: Burt Gummer



...and 1/3 of Japan stays DARK with no power for a long time as a result.
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The reactor is encased in concrete? That should contain everything, shouldn't it?
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Anyone have a comment on this analysis?

Naoto Sekimura, a professor at the University of Tokyo, said a major radioactive disaster was unlikely.

“No Chernobyl is possible at a light water reactor. Loss of coolant means a temperature rise, but it also will stop the reaction,” he said.

“Even in the worst-case scenario, that would mean some radioactive leakage and equipment damage, but not an explosion. If venting is done carefully, there will be little leakage. Certainly not beyond the 3km radius.”

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290825


An hour ago, the government expanded the evacuation area from 3km to 10km.

And "loss of coolant will stop the reaction"???? What brand of sake has Professor Sekimura been drinking?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292702


I don't have specific knowledge of light water reactors, but according to Wikipedia that's just a normal reactor. Within the class of light water reactors, this is an old-style Boiling Water Reactor.

Loss of coolant stop the reaction? Not to my knowledge.
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Fuck.
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From Japanese Translation: [link to headlines.yahoo.co.jp]

Core melt or cause a nuclear power plant
Unit 1 = Hukushima
NISA 12th, the first nuclear power plant Unit 1,
Fukushima announced that most likely is going meltdown.

(Newsletter)


Primary or core meltdown in the discovery of cesium
in the vicinity of the first-Hukushima - NISA

Newsletter March 12 (Sat) 11:14 delivery

Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency Ministry of Economy,
Trade and Industry on August 12, the first nuclear power
plant damaged by earthquake Toukyoudenryoku Hukuzima East
(town Ookuma Fukushima Futaba town) in Unit 1, soluble in hot
fuel rods "meltdown" has occurred likely announced.


According to NISA, No. 1 around the detection of
radioactive cesium on NIRS team. Cesium is contained in
nuclear fuel rods, because of its high melting point, it is
estimated that the likely cause meltdown.


According to the Safety Agency, said nuclear power plant
Unit 1 reactor water level decreased from 12 am. Temporarily
exposed surface of the cooling water from nuclear fuel rods
were damaged nuclear fuel is a concern.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292488





ARE YOU SAYING IT JUST MELTED???!!! Anyone?! WEbcams all went down?! SUPER DOOOM!?!
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Good grief... they're warning of additional Japanese tsunamis (2m waves) & calling for evacuation.

[link to jibtv.com]
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


These bulletins are scaring the crap out of me!! Seriously!!

What quake set them off?
God Bless President TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
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Anybody got an NHK stream that isn't silverlight based?
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I won't install Silverlight either....way too invasive.

Here's an NHK Radio link:

[link to www.mp3rocket.com]
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fucking australian media are useless still talking about USA sending coolant over and everything will be ok

LOL !!

our satellite feed of foxnews and CNN isnt what you guys are saying either - its showing usual programming ??
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OK ALL!!!!

Chernobyl or China Syndrome??

Looking more like China Syndrom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238802

I think it would be A South American Syndrome...
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The reactor is encased in concrete? That should contain everything, shouldn't it?
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Not necessarily. Fundamental forces of the universe are being unleashed in there.

E = m c^2. m is not that tiny, and c^2 is a very very large number.
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Confirming earlier report:

Nuclear and Industry Agency saying Cesium has been detected - indicating the rods may have melted per NHK.

[link to jibtv.com]
 Quoting: Copernica


:shocked2:

:needbooze:
 Quoting: Ragman (Rags)


shit. Cs is a mess to clean up. We've had it before (atmospheric testing, Chernobyl) but agree that would indicate it has been compromised.

TMI melted the rods, but contained stuff well, no Cs got out.


Not good.
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fox JUST NOW said #1 is possibly in meltdown as we speak....
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Can this get any worse?
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yes
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Anybody got an NHK stream that isn't silverlight based?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262674


I won't install Silverlight either....way too invasive.

Here's an NHK Radio link:

[link to www.mp3rocket.com]
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


[link to wwitv.com]
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From Japanese Translation: [link to headlines.yahoo.co.jp]

Core melt or cause a nuclear power plant
Unit 1 = Hukushima
NISA 12th, the first nuclear power plant Unit 1,
Fukushima announced that most likely is going meltdown.

(Newsletter)


Primary or core meltdown in the discovery of cesium
in the vicinity of the first-Hukushima - NISA

Newsletter March 12 (Sat) 11:14 delivery

Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency Ministry of Economy,
Trade and Industry on August 12, the first nuclear power
plant damaged by earthquake Toukyoudenryoku Hukuzima East
(town Ookuma Fukushima Futaba town) in Unit 1, soluble in hot
fuel rods "meltdown" has occurred likely announced.


According to NISA, No. 1 around the detection of
radioactive cesium on NIRS team. Cesium is contained in
nuclear fuel rods, because of its high melting point, it is
estimated that the likely cause meltdown.


According to the Safety Agency, said nuclear power plant
Unit 1 reactor water level decreased from 12 am. Temporarily
exposed surface of the cooling water from nuclear fuel rods
were damaged nuclear fuel is a concern.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292488





ARE YOU SAYING IT JUST MELTED???!!! Anyone?! WEbcams all went down?! SUPER DOOOM!?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220093


Assume....with a high probability.... that the Fukushima reactor core is now a pile of molten metal and in full China Syndrome mode.

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The reactor is encased in concrete? That should contain everything, shouldn't it?
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The molten remains of the reactor core of Chernobyl cracked and ate through the feet-thick cement floor of the reactor room and seeped below... concrete does nothing against the sheer heat of a nuclear core.
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From Wikipedia:

The use of water as a moderator is an important safety feature of PWRs, as any increase in temperature causes the water to expand and become less dense; thereby reducing the extent to which neutrons are slowed down and hence reducing the reactivity in the reactor. Therefore, if reactivity increases beyond normal, the reduced moderation of neutrons will cause the chain reaction to slow down, producing less heat. This property, known as the negative temperature coefficient of reactivity, makes PWR reactors very stable. In event of a loss of coolant accident, the moderator is also lost and the reaction will stop.


I don't know crap about this, but that is two sources saying the same thing. Never heard this before.
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"Reactor might be experiencing meltdown"
[link to english.kyodonews.jp]
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Despite what op would like to believe, they have suspended operations at this plant. There is no choice but to let it run its course now.
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Good grief... they're warning of additional Japanese tsunamis (2m waves) & calling for evacuation.

[link to jibtv.com]
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


These bulletins are scaring the crap out of me!! Seriously!!

What quake set them off?
 Quoting: Copernica


Gotta be the aftershocks... wow.
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The reactor is encased in concrete? That should contain everything, shouldn't it?
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