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Explosion at the Fukushima Nuclear power plant in Japan and possible meltdown coming.

 
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Can you PLEASE verify any of your credentials? The massive amounts of hysteria and mis information are exceedingly difficult to sift through. On this site and elsewhere.

You wrote a concise piece, but what qualifies you to write it? Please. We need WAY more facts right now and the BS level is sky high with fake charts, fear and conjecture.
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SHR, please ignore idiots like this who want to see a credential and then believe the information because it came from a "proper authority". Instead keep spending your time putting out information to people so they have a base to start from and can do their own research to check things out and verify.

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As an average layperson, I must say I am totally confused as to what to believe. We have 3 news channels to watch, where we see a countless parade of so called "experts". Some tell us everything is fine, and this Nuclear problem will be confined to a local area. We have some "experts" who tell us this could be a global problem if it comes to a complete meltdown. The news coming out of Japan ( I listened to a news conference at like 6:30 am Eastern this morning)is that the reactors are fine and the radiation levels have been declining. I guess what worries me is the fact we don't really know who to believe, and in a possible crisis situation..we need to know that in order to protect ourselves and our families.

I suppose considering the fact we DON"T know who or what to believe, its best to prepare for the worst and hope for the best, as cliche as that sounds.
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03/12/2011 12:42 PM
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If he has the background, then that is fantastic. If he is a quack like you, then this is just more information that isn't very helpful.
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Experts on TV are lying like there's no tomorrow.
So maybe I can get some truth from a quack like me.
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03/12/2011 12:43 PM
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Don't know if this has been mentioned. Just saw a scientist on CNN who stated the sea water cooling of the reactor is a desparate measure that will most likely not work. He also stated that there is a special kind of fuel that contains plutonium in these reactors and its even more dangerous than the usual fuel if released and that it should be banned worlwide
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The core has been breached because cesium and other materials have been detected.

I'm very worried about this!
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//...
NOTE- he claims the west coast will be "hit" within 24 hours if the radioactive material gets into the jet stream.

[link to squall.sfsu.edu]
 Quoting: JWGlantz


Shit Im in So. Oregon.
 Quoting: Craze


I'm in Oregon too, Craze.

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hf
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What will the effect of the fallout be on crops in California?

Just curious because we already have high food prices from the freezes this winter.

Could fallout from this make crops in California unsafe?
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Don't know if this has been mentioned. Just saw a scientist on CNN who stated the sea water cooling of the reactor is a desparate measure that will most likely not work. He also stated that there is a special kind of fuel that contains plutonium in these reactors and its even more dangerous than the usual fuel if released and that it should be banned worlwide
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I saw that too!

He thought is was desperate and not likely to work.
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If it haven't already happened yet. There is only a time factor now before there is a meltdown there are still magnitude 6+ Earthquakes going off outside their coast as we speak.

NO nuclear power plants are built to take this continuously. Just as well prepare for multiple meltdowns now.




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Interesting....
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Don't know if this has been mentioned. Just saw a scientist on CNN who stated the sea water cooling of the reactor is a desparate measure that will most likely not work. He also stated that there is a special kind of fuel that contains plutonium in these reactors and its even more dangerous than the usual fuel if released and that it should be banned worlwide
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I saw that too!

He thought is was desperate and not likely to work.
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Heard it too.
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Are there any stats on how fast such a core meltdown proceeds?

I wonder how many hours / days it would take before the nearby reactors are affected by the initial incident.

If it's a chain reaction of epic proportions that can't be stopped then the Japanese government should better tell us about it...

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As an average layperson, I must say I am totally confused as to what to believe. We have 3 news channels to watch, where we see a countless parade of so called "experts". Some tell us everything is fine, and this Nuclear problem will be confined to a local area. We have some "experts" who tell us this could be a global problem if it comes to a complete meltdown. The news coming out of Japan ( I listened to a news conference at like 6:30 am Eastern this morning)is that the reactors are fine and the radiation levels have been declining. I guess what worries me is the fact we don't really know who to believe, and in a possible crisis situation..we need to know that in order to protect ourselves and our families.

I suppose considering the fact we DON"T know who or what to believe, its best to prepare for the worst and hope for the best, as cliche as that sounds.
 Quoting: JessinPensacola


I have contact with Star Fleet personnel and it happened, and it is being contained and decontamination features are being used. They ALWAYS do this, as they ALWAYS come to babysit planets when nuclear energy and bombs are discovered and used as the possible destruction of a planet can occur and this will damage the soul. Ditto scalar energy use.
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Don't know if this has been mentioned. Just saw a scientist on CNN who stated the sea water cooling of the reactor is a desparate measure that will most likely not work. He also stated that there is a special kind of fuel that contains plutonium in these reactors and its even more dangerous than the usual fuel if released and that it should be banned worlwide
 Quoting: sea water cooling 923772


If you could pipe your way back into and out of the reactor vessel and bring in temporary pumps, the surrounding ocean would act as the cooling tower. I'm sure that the heat transfer qualities of salt water over the type of water thats normally used is not as effective in absorbing the heat out of the reactor. Dumping water on it would not accomplish anything, you need flow in order to extract the heat out.

At the same time you would be sending radiation into the ocean which is a bad situation, but maybe it could be contained in some way.

It would be a huge task to accomplish in a short timeframe under dangerous conditions.


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Thanks, much appreciated.

From what you wrote....it sounds as if a meltdown is indeed inevitable.
And most likely all ready happening.

What I am curious about is wether or not the radiation from fallout that
is carried by the jet stream....to us....becomes less dangerous.

Does it weaken? How much?
This was reported on FOX, and I'm wondering if it is just another pet on
the head to keep us calm.
 Quoting: Madigan


This map was on another thread yesterday, Madigan. Maybe it will help to answer your question.

[link to img847.imageshack.us]



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 Quoting: Aquarius 7


Here you go ... Fallout Map. :(

:fallout map:


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Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html
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I have contact with Star Fleet personnel and it happened, and it is being contained and decontamination features are being used. They ALWAYS do this, as they ALWAYS come to babysit planets when nuclear energy and bombs are discovered and used as the possible destruction of a planet can occur and this will damage the soul. Ditto scalar energy use.
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Commander Scott will have that reactor wired up like a Christmas tree in 20 minutes.
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What will the effect of the fallout be on crops in California?

Just curious because we already have high food prices from the freezes this winter.

Could fallout from this make crops in California unsafe?
 Quoting: The Chef


as a general rule yes.
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What will the effect of the fallout be on crops in California?

Just curious because we already have high food prices from the freezes this winter.

Could fallout from this make crops in California unsafe?
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Glow in the dark fruits and veggies....cool!
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I never understood why, in a meltdown situation, they don't pour tons and tons of sand on the rods...What does sand do when super heated? It turns to glass and forms a hermetically tight seal...
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Brief: Get yourself over to Tokyo ASAP!!



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LOL, nobody ever listens to me :(
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I never understood why, in a meltdown situation, they don't pour tons and tons of sand on the rods...What does sand do when super heated? It turns to glass and forms a hermetically tight seal...
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Brief: Get yourself over to Tokyo ASAP!!



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what?

and leave his patented 'squish count' machine in the hands of amateurs?

NEVER!
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No patent necessary, it's my gift to humanity...
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Thanks, much appreciated.

From what you wrote....it sounds as if a meltdown is indeed inevitable.
And most likely all ready happening.

What I am curious about is wether or not the radiation from fallout that
is carried by the jet stream....to us....becomes less dangerous.

Does it weaken? How much?
This was reported on FOX, and I'm wondering if it is just another pet on
the head to keep us calm.
 Quoting: Madigan


This map was on another thread yesterday, Madigan. Maybe it will help to answer your question.

[link to img847.imageshack.us]



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 Quoting: Aquarius 7


Here you go ... Fallout Map. :(

:fallout map:


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Bump for the map!
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OP REQUEST:

Can you PLEASE verify any of your credentials? The massive amounts of hysteria and mis information are exceedingly difficult to sift through. On this site and elsewhere.

You wrote a concise piece, but what qualifies you to write it? Please. We need WAY more facts right now and the BS level is sky high with fake charts, fear and conjecture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


SHR, please ignore idiots like this who want to see a credential and then believe the information because it came from a "proper authority". Instead keep spending your time putting out information to people so they have a base to start from and can do their own research to check things out and verify.

Thanks again.
 Quoting: ADEND


No YOU Are the idiot. I want to know if the information is coming from someone with a DEEP understanding of how this all works and what could be wrong. If he has the background, then that is fantastic. If he is a quack like you, then this is just more information that isn't very helpful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


You trust someone because they present a credential. I appreciate information then check it against other sources and form my own opinions.

I apologize for calling you an idiot. Sheep would be the right word.
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As an average layperson, I must say I am totally confused as to what to believe. We have 3 news channels to watch, where we see a countless parade of so called "experts". Some tell us everything is fine, and this Nuclear problem will be confined to a local area. We have some "experts" who tell us this could be a global problem if it comes to a complete meltdown. The news coming out of Japan ( I listened to a news conference at like 6:30 am Eastern this morning)is that the reactors are fine and the radiation levels have been declining. I guess what worries me is the fact we don't really know who to believe, and in a possible crisis situation..we need to know that in order to protect ourselves and our families.

I suppose considering the fact we DON"T know who or what to believe, its best to prepare for the worst and hope for the best, as cliche as that sounds.
 Quoting: JessinPensacola


your last paragraph is spot on!
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there are seneteen nuclrea power plants in Japna!

17....count em.....17!

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Excellent info SHR. Thanks
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seventeen!

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Are there any stats on how fast such a core meltdown proceeds?

I wonder how many hours / days it would take before the nearby reactors are affected by the initial incident.

If it's a chain reaction of epic proportions that can't be stopped then the Japanese government should better tell us about it...


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they should but they won´t,

the elite won´t let them.
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there are seventeen nuclear power plants in Japan!

17....count em.....17!


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map of reactor :

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