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Anonymous Coward
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there are seneteen nuclrea power plants in Japna!

17....count em.....17!


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55....keep up! 11 shut down when the quake hit...5 are blown/ready to blow!
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As an average layperson, I must say I am totally confused as to what to believe.
 Quoting: JessinPensacola

Did you see the explosion?

Did you see the massive Shock Wave emanating right before the explosion??

Trust what you see. The explosion was absolutely MASSIVE .. and would have killed anyone inside or near the plant. What could possibly cause such an explosion besides a total destruction of the pressurized containment vessel?

Have you seen any pictures of the damage afterwards? I HAVE NOT SEEN EVEN ONE. I believe the reason is authorities don't want anyone to see how extensive the damage is.

Use your own faculties for determinig the truth. Expanding the evacuation zone to 20 kilometers should be a heads-up for everyone.
You can always tell a SHILL by how many posts they make on things they don't believe in.
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Ok, somebody point out the flaw in my sand theory...At Chernobyl they used concrete which is retarded, because high temperatures break down concrete to it's basic ingredients, but sand melts to molten mass and with enough layers will form a glass dome that will contain all radiation...
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11 shut down when the quake hit...5 are blown/ready to blow!
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NOT.
You can always tell a SHILL by how many posts they make on things they don't believe in.
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I never understood why, in a meltdown situation, they don't pour tons and tons of sand on the rods...What does sand do when super heated? It turns to glass and forms a hermetically tight seal...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Brief: Get yourself over to Tokyo ASAP!!



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 Quoting: Aquarius 7


what?

and leave his patented 'squish count' machine in the hands of amateurs?

NEVER!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292909


No patent necessary, it's my gift to humanity...
 Quoting: BRIEF


lol

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dish channel 640 tv japan talking about nuc reactor
but in japanese, But they are using Graphics.

When you get Hit in the Head with a Hammer enough times then Maybe you will Do Something about it !!!!!!!
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As an average layperson, I must say I am totally confused as to what to believe.
 Quoting: JessinPensacola

Did you see the explosion?

Did you see the massive Shock Wave emanating right before the explosion??

Trust what you see. The explosion was absolutely MASSIVE .. and would have killed anyone inside or near the plant. What could possibly cause such an explosion besides a total destruction of the pressurized containment vessel?

Have you seen any pictures of the damage afterwards? I HAVE NOT SEEN EVEN ONE. I believe the reason is authorities don't want anyone to see how extensive the damage is.

Use your own faculties for determinig the truth. Expanding the evacuation zone to 20 kilometers should be a heads-up for everyone.
 Quoting: upstateny

actually, the shock wave was AFTER the explosion.study that GIF carefully.
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OP REQUEST:

Can you PLEASE verify any of your credentials? The massive amounts of hysteria and mis information are exceedingly difficult to sift through. On this site and elsewhere.

You wrote a concise piece, but what qualifies you to write it? Please. We need WAY more facts right now and the BS level is sky high with fake charts, fear and conjecture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


SHR, please ignore idiots like this who want to see a credential and then believe the information because it came from a "proper authority". Instead keep spending your time putting out information to people so they have a base to start from and can do their own research to check things out and verify.

Thanks again.
 Quoting: ADEND


Lol..yeah that stuff doesn't bother me...I always tell people anyway...take in what you want to..decide for yourselves...;)
 Quoting: SHR


Are you serious, that is how you respond? There is nothing to be bothered about. But with people everywhere talking about that fact that "they know what is going on" I would REALLY like to find someone who might. This is NOT meant to discredit at all so don't take it that way. If what you say is true, then me and my potassium bottles (WHICH i have on hand already) are headed to the mountains. If you want to post something like that and then laugh that someone would want to know a bit more about you, fine. All it does is discredit a powerful message.
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SHR you should see this video


 Quoting: ~GAIA~


As an average layperson, I must say I am totally confused as to what to believe.
 Quoting: JessinPensacola

Did you see the explosion?

Did you see the massive Shock Wave emanating right before the explosion??

Trust what you see. The explosion was absolutely MASSIVE .. and would have killed anyone inside or near the plant. What could possibly cause such an explosion besides a total destruction of the pressurized containment vessel?

Have you seen any pictures of the damage afterwards? I HAVE NOT SEEN EVEN ONE. I believe the reason is authorities don't want anyone to see how extensive the damage is.

Use your own faculties for determinig the truth. Expanding the evacuation zone to 20 kilometers should be a heads-up for everyone.
 Quoting: upstateny


Watch the video posted above by GAIA. It shows the plant after the explosion.
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In case those of us who wonder what the effects of 750 RADS has on humans....here is a quick explanation:

THRESHOLD FOR RADIATION INDUCED CANCER (LOW DOSE)

There is no doubt that radiation can cause cancer. The question is what level of radiation it takes to cause cancer. Some belive that this low level is about 20 rads. Below this dose it is not possible to detect adverse health effects (this level has been set by ICRP). The Health Physics Society has issued a position statement "Radiation Risk in Perspective" that addresses this issue. The statement does not claim that there are no observable health effects below 10 rem but that health risks, if they exist below 10 rem, are too small to be observed. The facts in the matter of radiation effects at low doses are very simple: no one knows whether there is any risk or not. All we can say now is that no one has detected any statistically significant effect at doses below about 100 mSv (10 rem). Some epidemiological studies suggest an increased risk of cancer in 15-20 rads dose range. However, the data suggest that risks in the 15-20 rem dose range are very small and difficult to measure. Above 10 rem there appears to be a significant risk of thyroid cancer due to radioiodine exposure in children 15 years of age and younger.
Other references:
[link to www.physics.umd.edu]


now look at the fallout map again......NOT GOOD.
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Thanks, much appreciated.

From what you wrote....it sounds as if a meltdown is indeed inevitable.
And most likely all ready happening.

What I am curious about is wether or not the radiation from fallout that
is carried by the jet stream....to us....becomes less dangerous.

Does it weaken? How much?
This was reported on FOX, and I'm wondering if it is just another pet on
the head to keep us calm.
 Quoting: Madigan


This map was on another thread yesterday, Madigan. Maybe it will help to answer your question.

[link to img847.imageshack.us]



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 Quoting: Aquarius 7


Here you go ... Fallout Map. :(

:fallout map:


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 Quoting: Aquarius 7



check this out.....

The chest xray uses an average of 3/100 of 1 Rad...

with me so far?....o.k. let´s keep going...

For example, exposing a person to approximately 100 rads of radiation (0.1 Gray) or the equivalent of 100 CT scans to the total body results in a slight decrease in the circulating white cells and platelets. This will happen in everyone exposed to this dose.....

now look at the map and note the rad content on the left corner.....
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OP REQUEST:

Can you PLEASE verify any of your credentials? The massive amounts of hysteria and mis information are exceedingly difficult to sift through. On this site and elsewhere.

You wrote a concise piece, but what qualifies you to write it? Please. We need WAY more facts right now and the BS level is sky high with fake charts, fear and conjecture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


SHR, please ignore idiots like this who want to see a credential and then believe the information because it came from a "proper authority". Instead keep spending your time putting out information to people so they have a base to start from and can do their own research to check things out and verify.

Thanks again.
 Quoting: ADEND


No YOU Are the idiot. I want to know if the information is coming from someone with a DEEP understanding of how this all works and what could be wrong. If he has the background, then that is fantastic. If he is a quack like you, then this is just more information that isn't very helpful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


You trust someone because they present a credential. I appreciate information then check it against other sources and form my own opinions.

I apologize for calling you an idiot. Sheep would be the right word.
 Quoting: ADEND



Really? That's how it works? So you go to the doctor and you sort of do expect the credentials to mean something, don't you? And when radiation falls out and you get sick and go to a doctor, your gonna kind of want their help, no? Or maybe you can go to this fine gent because I am sure he is a doctor, too.

And by the way, it certainly isn't about trust because there is VERY little on this site to actually 'trust". I come here because people are great at finding links to obscure news because unlike some SHEEP, I like to read everything. I come here because people have a whacky obsession with news and events. And things show up here before everywhere.

But when the day is done, I won't take just one person's view and call it gospel. I read and look at everything, consider the source and in the end, trust MYSELF.
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Are you serious, that is how you respond? There is nothing to be bothered about. But with people everywhere talking about that fact that "they know what is going on" I would REALLY like to find someone who might. This is NOT meant to discredit at all so don't take it that way. If what you say is true, then me and my potassium bottles (WHICH i have on hand already) are headed to the mountains. If you want to post something like that and then laugh that someone would want to know a bit more about you, fine. All it does is discredit a powerful message.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


LOL... you're hilarious... you're sitting at a computer with internet access... you can do your own searches and research... you can call up or visit the science dept at a nearby university and speak to someone there.

there's lots of things you can do, so just go do them rather than bitch and nag on this thread.

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Water always wins.
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everyone on the west coast.... potentially will get 750 rads....

that is the equivalent of 750 catscans....

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Here's a chance to test your medical knowledge:

Will getting two or three CT scans of the abdomen expose you to the same amount of radiation as people who lived near the atomic blast that ravaged Hiroshima in 1945 but survived?

Will they increase your lifetime cancer risk?

If you answered yes to both questions, you're spot on. You're also better informed than many patients at inner-city emergency departments, according to a new survey from Cooper University Hospital in Camden, New Jersey.


approximately 100 rads of radiation (0.1 Gray) is the equivalent of 100 CT scans....

750! cat scans.....

Avoid being outdoors for the next two weeks!
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OP REQUEST:

Can you PLEASE verify any of your credentials? The massive amounts of hysteria and mis information are exceedingly difficult to sift through. On this site and elsewhere.

You wrote a concise piece, but what qualifies you to write it? Please. We need WAY more facts right now and the BS level is sky high with fake charts, fear and conjecture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


SHR, please ignore idiots like this who want to see a credential and then believe the information because it came from a "proper authority". Instead keep spending your time putting out information to people so they have a base to start from and can do their own research to check things out and verify.

Thanks again.
 Quoting: ADEND


Lol..yeah that stuff doesn't bother me...I always tell people anyway...take in what you want to..decide for yourselves...;)
 Quoting: SHR


Are you serious, that is how you respond? There is nothing to be bothered about. But with people everywhere talking about that fact that "they know what is going on" I would REALLY like to find someone who might. This is NOT meant to discredit at all so don't take it that way. If what you say is true, then me and my potassium bottles (WHICH i have on hand already) are headed to the mountains. If you want to post something like that and then laugh that someone would want to know a bit more about you, fine. All it does is discredit a powerful message.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


It is up to you to decide what to do. SHR's credentials won't change the truth and he does not have access to all the information. He is just an educated person sharing information and opinion. It's not his job to tell you to go ahead and take an iodine dose or to run to the mountains.

I won't tell you what to do either, but I am handing out a little iodine with the daily vitamins to my family and buying a new high quality filter for the home central air system. If I find another good iodine source while I'm out shopping, I'll probably add that to the bottle of pills I have at home.

I'm not running for the mountains. I'm not saying you shouldn't, just that you should calmly make a decision after doing the best research you can with the tools available.
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Three civilians in Fukushima have been diagnosed with radiation poisoning. Apparently they were waiting to be rescued when the explosion occurred.


Fox News confirms via Kyodo News Agency 3 with radiation sickness

Last Edited by Stu on 03/12/2011 01:34 PM
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As an average layperson, I must say I am totally confused as to what to believe.
 Quoting: JessinPensacola

Did you see the explosion?

Did you see the massive Shock Wave emanating right before the explosion??

Trust what you see. The explosion was absolutely MASSIVE .. and would have killed anyone inside or near the plant. What could possibly cause such an explosion besides a total destruction of the pressurized containment vessel?

Have you seen any pictures of the damage afterwards? I HAVE NOT SEEN EVEN ONE. I believe the reason is authorities don't want anyone to see how extensive the damage is.

Use your own faculties for determinig the truth. Expanding the evacuation zone to 20 kilometers should be a heads-up for everyone.
 Quoting: upstateny


can google sky see anything there on a real time basis?
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:fallout map:


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Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html
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OP REQUEST:

Can you PLEASE verify any of your credentials? The massive amounts of hysteria and mis information are exceedingly difficult to sift through. On this site and elsewhere.

You wrote a concise piece, but what qualifies you to write it? Please. We need WAY more facts right now and the BS level is sky high with fake charts, fear and conjecture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


SHR, please ignore idiots like this who want to see a credential and then believe the information because it came from a "proper authority". Instead keep spending your time putting out information to people so they have a base to start from and can do their own research to check things out and verify.

Thanks again.
 Quoting: ADEND


Lol..yeah that stuff doesn't bother me...I always tell people anyway...take in what you want to..decide for yourselves...;)
 Quoting: SHR


Are you serious, that is how you respond? There is nothing to be bothered about. But with people everywhere talking about that fact that "they know what is going on" I would REALLY like to find someone who might. This is NOT meant to discredit at all so don't take it that way. If what you say is true, then me and my potassium bottles (WHICH i have on hand already) are headed to the mountains. If you want to post something like that and then laugh that someone would want to know a bit more about you, fine. All it does is discredit a powerful message.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


mountains are not the best bet,

the best bet is a cave for the next two weeks!
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HOLY SHIT!
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:fallout map:


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And this organization has something to sell.
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Fox News confirms via Kyodo News Agency 3 with radiation sickness
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3 out of 99 people who had been near the site were tested, and all had signs of radiation poisoning.
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SHR, please ignore idiots like this who want to see a credential and then believe the information because it came from a "proper authority". Instead keep spending your time putting out information to people so they have a base to start from and can do their own research to check things out and verify.

Thanks again.
 Quoting: ADEND


Lol..yeah that stuff doesn't bother me...I always tell people anyway...take in what you want to..decide for yourselves...;)
 Quoting: SHR


Are you serious, that is how you respond? There is nothing to be bothered about. But with people everywhere talking about that fact that "they know what is going on" I would REALLY like to find someone who might. This is NOT meant to discredit at all so don't take it that way. If what you say is true, then me and my potassium bottles (WHICH i have on hand already) are headed to the mountains. If you want to post something like that and then laugh that someone would want to know a bit more about you, fine. All it does is discredit a powerful message.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


mountains are not the best bet,

the best bet is a cave for the next two weeks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269924


Right, but these particular mountains happen to have a massive cropping of GRANITE with deep nooks that simulate a cave. And..... it's on my property.
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:fallout map:


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Looks like hawaii would be affected, they in red zone?
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SHR, please ignore idiots like this who want to see a credential and then believe the information because it came from a "proper authority". Instead keep spending your time putting out information to people so they have a base to start from and can do their own research to check things out and verify.

Thanks again.
 Quoting: ADEND


No YOU Are the idiot. I want to know if the information is coming from someone with a DEEP understanding of how this all works and what could be wrong. If he has the background, then that is fantastic. If he is a quack like you, then this is just more information that isn't very helpful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


You trust someone because they present a credential. I appreciate information then check it against other sources and form my own opinions.

I apologize for calling you an idiot. Sheep would be the right word.
 Quoting: ADEND



Really? That's how it works? So you go to the doctor and you sort of do expect the credentials to mean something, don't you? And when radiation falls out and you get sick and go to a doctor, your gonna kind of want their help, no? Or maybe you can go to this fine gent because I am sure he is a doctor, too.

And by the way, it certainly isn't about trust because there is VERY little on this site to actually 'trust". I come here because people are great at finding links to obscure news because unlike some SHEEP, I like to read everything. I come here because people have a whacky obsession with news and events. And things show up here before everywhere.

But when the day is done, I won't take just one person's view and call it gospel. I read and look at everything, consider the source and in the end, trust MYSELF.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280747


YES!!! You are catching on to the idea. When I go to the doctor I never trust them because they have a credential. I do my own investigation of the diagnosis and proposed treatment. I expect them to treat based on the latest pharmaceutical advertisement in their AMA journal, the latest fad in medicine, or the latest government recommendation.

If SHR posted his three PhDs in relevant diciplines, I would trust him LESS not more.
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Fox News confirms via Kyodo News Agency 3 with radiation sickness
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3 out of 99 people who had been near the site were tested, and all had signs of radiation poisoning.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious




which confirms high levels of radiation
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This is what happens when the nuke plant is run as a for profit corporation to enrich the rich.
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The pagan nazi collaborating idiots constructed their nuclear plants on the east coast at Fukumama adjacent to the Japan Trench where the earthquakes occur. Had the nuclear plants been located on the west coast of japan they would be subject to much less seismic shock and tusami free.

This link illustrates with a map:
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

The heathen whale murdering fools deserve a proper Godzilla stomping!
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STOP FIGHTING YOU MORANS!

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