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You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!!

 
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Well it takes 2 million time LESS materials to be released to be as bad as Chernobyl...


So, if the MOX stuff is released in the same quantity as Chernobyl, then YES it's 2 million Chernobyl at once.
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Good God, is this correct?!
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DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ADJUST YOUR THREAD, THE MODS ARE IN CONTROL!

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you can bet this is the reason the UK govs COBRA emergency team met just after the quake and wave happened
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Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!!
LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTED RESEARCH ON THIS ARTICLE

[link to sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com]
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All About MOX - (bad shit omitted)




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LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTED RESEARCH ON THIS ARTICLE

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Interesting.
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MOX is made in our back yard.

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In the meantime, there have been suggestions that an incident at reactor 3 would inherently be more dangerous than at reactors 1 and 2 because it burns "mixed oxide fuel" (MOX) containing plutonium.

Plutonium is produced during nuclear fission, so is present in all reactor cores - the longer the fuel has been there, the more plutonium will be present, up to about 1%.

In some countries, spent fuel rods are re-processed and the plutonium set to one side.

However, Japan - in an attempt to be more frugal with a valuable resource - has a programme that mixes the plutonium coming out of the re-processing facility back into new fuel rods that also contain uranium. This is MOX fuel.

So, reactor 3 fuel rods will contain more plutonium than those in reactor 1.

But this would only become an issue if there were an explosion or a catastrophic meltdown. The radioactive release so far has been of much lighter fission products and of short-lived nuclei generated in cooling water, which are identical no matter which fuel is used.

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How much MOX per reactor? About a ton or so?
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From intel hub
[link to theintelhub.com]


What is Mox fuel and how much stronger is it then normal uranium? According to World Nuclear News, in August 2010 Japan loaded Mox fuel into the Fukushima #3 plant.

“Tokyo Electric Power Company’s (Tepco’s) Fukushima I unit 3 is set to become the third Japanese nuclear reactor to load mixed oxide (MOX) fuel after receiving approval from the governor of Fukushima Prefecture, Yukei Sato.”

How is Mox fuel different then uranium? The BBC has also confirmed that Mox Fuel has been used in plant #3!

In the meantime, there have been suggestions that an incident at reactor 3 would inherently be more dangerous than at reactors 1 and 2 because it burns “mixed oxide fuel” (MOX) containing plutonium.

Plutonium is produced during nuclear fission, so is present in all reactor cores – the longer the fuel has been there, the more plutonium will be present, up to about 1%.

In some countries, spent fuel rods are re-processed and the plutonium set to one side.

However, Japan – in an attempt to be more frugal with a valuable resource – has a programme that mixes the plutonium coming out of the re-processing facility back into new fuel rods that also contain uranium. This is MOX fuel.

MOX fuel emits higher gamma radiation and much higher neutron radiation than uranium fuel. Dangers are greater when using Mox fuel.

All About Mox

“What is NOT Being released is the FUEL used in that plant! I read about it and decided to research it! I am SHOCKED at what I found! This power plant meltdown can be 2 MILLION times Worse than Chernobyl! This could make the whole country of Japan inhabitable, besides being carried around the world,”wrote the Sherrie Questioning All Blog.

From Sherrie Questioning All:

[link to www.world-nuclear.org]
about Mox use in nuclear plants

[link to archive.greenpeace.org]
Green peace information about Mox going to Japan and their very strong concerns about it

[link to brc.gov]
A Tepco – Japanese professor about Mox/uranium

From all indications, an explosion at plant #3 would be devastating. Let us pray this does not happen. Stay tuned for more updates on this serious matter.
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From intel hub
[link to theintelhub.com]


What is Mox fuel and how much stronger is it then normal uranium? According to World Nuclear News, in August 2010 Japan loaded Mox fuel into the Fukushima #3 plant.

“Tokyo Electric Power Company’s (Tepco’s) Fukushima I unit 3 is set to become the third Japanese nuclear reactor to load mixed oxide (MOX) fuel after receiving approval from the governor of Fukushima Prefecture, Yukei Sato.”

How is Mox fuel different then uranium? The BBC has also confirmed that Mox Fuel has been used in plant #3!

In the meantime, there have been suggestions that an incident at reactor 3 would inherently be more dangerous than at reactors 1 and 2 because it burns “mixed oxide fuel” (MOX) containing plutonium.

Plutonium is produced during nuclear fission, so is present in all reactor cores – the longer the fuel has been there, the more plutonium will be present, up to about 1%.

In some countries, spent fuel rods are re-processed and the plutonium set to one side.

However, Japan – in an attempt to be more frugal with a valuable resource – has a programme that mixes the plutonium coming out of the re-processing facility back into new fuel rods that also contain uranium. This is MOX fuel.

MOX fuel emits higher gamma radiation and much higher neutron radiation than uranium fuel. Dangers are greater when using Mox fuel.

All About Mox

“What is NOT Being released is the FUEL used in that plant! I read about it and decided to research it! I am SHOCKED at what I found! This power plant meltdown can be 2 MILLION times Worse than Chernobyl! This could make the whole country of Japan inhabitable, besides being carried around the world,”wrote the Sherrie Questioning All Blog.

From Sherrie Questioning All:

[link to www.world-nuclear.org]
about Mox use in nuclear plants

[link to archive.greenpeace.org]
Green peace information about Mox going to Japan and their very strong concerns about it

[link to brc.gov]
A Tepco – Japanese professor about Mox/uranium

From all indications, an explosion at plant #3 would be devastating. Let us pray this does not happen. Stay tuned for more updates on this serious matter.
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What are the odds plant 3 will blow...doomers want to know.
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I had a dream in the night while the quake was on. You know the sort when its apocolyptic for yourself, either war or zombies dream, definately that kinda vibe in it, like I say, now and again in your life everyone gets a disasterous zombie, world war type dream thats harsh or major because of the scenario. Well it was that sort that night. Anyway was with some people at the bottom of a hill in some woods, at the top were some old skool soldiers like ww2. They were hostile, Or couldnt go up there because they were there, anyway back to the bottom of the hill scene, someone pulls out a drug, like blood mixed with heroin, So I say what is it? They said its heroin. Even though I dont touch the stuff I took it. I said what will it do and they said it will make you feel tired.
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i think they're just using this to their advantage now, to keep everyone distracted, like they do with every potential doom scenario.

if something bad was gonna happen, it would have already happened by now.

imho
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I had a dream in the night while the quake was on. You know the sort when its apocolyptic for yourself, either war or zombies dream, definately that kinda vibe in it, like I say, now and again in your life everyone gets a disasterous zombie, world war type dream thats harsh or major because of the scenario. Well it was that sort that night. Anyway was with some people at the bottom of a hill in some woods, at the top were some old skool soldiers like ww2. They were hostile, Or couldnt go up there because they were there, anyway back to the bottom of the hill scene, someone pulls out a drug, like blood mixed with heroin, So I say what is it? They said its heroin. Even though I dont touch the stuff I took it. I said what will it do and they said it will make you feel tired.
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norespect
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From intel hub
[link to theintelhub.com]


What is Mox fuel and how much stronger is it then normal uranium? According to World Nuclear News, in August 2010 Japan loaded Mox fuel into the Fukushima #3 plant.

“Tokyo Electric Power Company’s (Tepco’s) Fukushima I unit 3 is set to become the third Japanese nuclear reactor to load mixed oxide (MOX) fuel after receiving approval from the governor of Fukushima Prefecture, Yukei Sato.”

How is Mox fuel different then uranium? The BBC has also confirmed that Mox Fuel has been used in plant #3!

In the meantime, there have been suggestions that an incident at reactor 3 would inherently be more dangerous than at reactors 1 and 2 because it burns “mixed oxide fuel” (MOX) containing plutonium.

Plutonium is produced during nuclear fission, so is present in all reactor cores – the longer the fuel has been there, the more plutonium will be present, up to about 1%.

In some countries, spent fuel rods are re-processed and the plutonium set to one side.

However, Japan – in an attempt to be more frugal with a valuable resource – has a programme that mixes the plutonium coming out of the re-processing facility back into new fuel rods that also contain uranium. This is MOX fuel.

MOX fuel emits higher gamma radiation and much higher neutron radiation than uranium fuel. Dangers are greater when using Mox fuel.

All About Mox

“What is NOT Being released is the FUEL used in that plant! I read about it and decided to research it! I am SHOCKED at what I found! This power plant meltdown can be 2 MILLION times Worse than Chernobyl! This could make the whole country of Japan inhabitable, besides being carried around the world,”wrote the Sherrie Questioning All Blog.

From Sherrie Questioning All:

[link to www.world-nuclear.org]
about Mox use in nuclear plants

[link to archive.greenpeace.org]
Green peace information about Mox going to Japan and their very strong concerns about it

[link to brc.gov]
A Tepco – Japanese professor about Mox/uranium

From all indications, an explosion at plant #3 would be devastating. Let us pray this does not happen. Stay tuned for more updates on this serious matter.
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What are the odds plant 3 will blow...doomers want to know.
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I have no idea the probability of it exploding, searching now.
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i think they're just using this to their advantage now, to keep everyone distracted, like they do with every potential doom scenario.

if something bad was gonna happen, it would have already happened by now.

imho
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Oy there, mate.

Cut the bullshit and tell us some more about Japanese radioactive, volcanic hellholes.
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From intel hub
[link to theintelhub.com]


What is Mox fuel and how much stronger is it then normal uranium? According to World Nuclear News, in August 2010 Japan loaded Mox fuel into the Fukushima #3 plant.

“Tokyo Electric Power Company’s (Tepco’s) Fukushima I unit 3 is set to become the third Japanese nuclear reactor to load mixed oxide (MOX) fuel after receiving approval from the governor of Fukushima Prefecture, Yukei Sato.”

How is Mox fuel different then uranium? The BBC has also confirmed that Mox Fuel has been used in plant #3!

In the meantime, there have been suggestions that an incident at reactor 3 would inherently be more dangerous than at reactors 1 and 2 because it burns “mixed oxide fuel” (MOX) containing plutonium.

Plutonium is produced during nuclear fission, so is present in all reactor cores – the longer the fuel has been there, the more plutonium will be present, up to about 1%.

In some countries, spent fuel rods are re-processed and the plutonium set to one side.

However, Japan – in an attempt to be more frugal with a valuable resource – has a programme that mixes the plutonium coming out of the re-processing facility back into new fuel rods that also contain uranium. This is MOX fuel.

MOX fuel emits higher gamma radiation and much higher neutron radiation than uranium fuel. Dangers are greater when using Mox fuel.

All About Mox

“What is NOT Being released is the FUEL used in that plant! I read about it and decided to research it! I am SHOCKED at what I found! This power plant meltdown can be 2 MILLION times Worse than Chernobyl! This could make the whole country of Japan inhabitable, besides being carried around the world,”wrote the Sherrie Questioning All Blog.

From Sherrie Questioning All:

[link to www.world-nuclear.org]
about Mox use in nuclear plants

[link to archive.greenpeace.org]
Green peace information about Mox going to Japan and their very strong concerns about it

[link to brc.gov]
A Tepco – Japanese professor about Mox/uranium

From all indications, an explosion at plant #3 would be devastating. Let us pray this does not happen. Stay tuned for more updates on this serious matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284091


What are the odds plant 3 will blow...doomers want to know.
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I have no idea the probability of it exploding, searching now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284091


The sooner the better. Time is of the essence!

Thankyou for your time and effort!
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in my opinion this thread is the most important thread on godlike and should be pinned to the type ALONE. everyone needs to see this information please read this.

[link to theintelhub.com]
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We are farked.

Allah, save us from this disaster.

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i think they're just using this to their advantage now, to keep everyone distracted, like they do with every potential doom scenario.

if something bad was gonna happen, it would have already happened by now.

imho
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Oy there, mate.

Cut the bullshit and tell us some more about Japanese radioactive, volcanic hellholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 856055


lol

oh, it's very much on. i just don't fancy popping my clogs yet, so i'm clinging to that one last hope, OK?

1rof1
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First sorry for bad English
second: That video makes me sick. I recomend to watch it.look at the end there is a few second of a pers conference about MOX how they talk about it.abduct

I watched the youtube clip above about MOX.

Some fact might be helpfull I took this from the clip.


1.MOX rods look the same as normal rods.
2.Each fuel assembly has 264 fuel rods
3.Each fuel assembly is 30 feet in lenght (9.144 meters)
5.weights 1500 pounds.


hope this helps,
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I had a dream in the night while the quake was on. You know the sort when its apocolyptic for yourself, either war or zombies dream, definately that kinda vibe in it, like I say, now and again in your life everyone gets a disasterous zombie, world war type dream thats harsh or major because of the scenario. Well it was that sort that night. Anyway was with some people at the bottom of a hill in some woods, at the top were some old skool soldiers like ww2. They were hostile, Or couldnt go up there because they were there, anyway back to the bottom of the hill scene, someone pulls out a drug, like blood mixed with heroin, So I say what is it? They said its heroin. Even though I dont touch the stuff I took it. I said what will it do and they said it will make you feel tired.
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norespect
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but thinking about it now I quit smoking last week and the first night I lay there pretty fucked from withdrawels, like moaning a bit in and out of sleep and tired from withdrawel. In real life I do see nicotine as skanky brown crap like smack or something so thats probably the connection. Proper lame these reactors now though aernt they. twats for sure
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Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!!
Ok...2+ meters exposed, but:

How long are the MOX fuel rods?
Based on the figure 2+ meters exposed (and the answer you give above), how long are we talking before eminate meltdown?
Does the Media even know what MOX is and that the "little" venting of steam from #3 is not a mild thing but a potential killer??
They are using Sea Water to cool it...what is the Cause/Affect (if any)??

Peace In/Out
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I asked this question too on another thread.... all of the responses I got from different people was that the rods are 4 meters long. Where they got this info... I don't know... but they all said the same thing so take it for what it is.

If 2.3m exposed and they ARE 4m long.... thats over 50% exposure...
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Thanks for getting back to me!!

For everyone else:

How long are we talking before eminate meltdown?Does the Media even know what MOX is and that the "little" venting of steam from #3 is not a mild thing but a potential killer??
They are using Sea Water to cool it...what is the Cause/Affect (if any)??

Peace In/Out
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Meltdown starts when there isn't anything to seperate the rods and they get too hot.
With 50% of the rods exposed, that means that 50% of the core is melting( or at a point where melting can happen.)
From what I've read , the water or graphite is used as the rod seperator...so now water, no seperation...melting starts.
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So do I understand that the plutonium/MOX chit does not penetrate the skin, but must be inhaled or ingested to be of concern? I'm asking, because this is what I'm hearing.
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i think they're just using this to their advantage now, to keep everyone distracted, like they do with every potential doom scenario.

if something bad was gonna happen, it would have already happened by now.

imho
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292909


Oy there, mate.

Cut the bullshit and tell us some more about Japanese radioactive, volcanic hellholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 856055


lol

oh, it's very much on. i just don't fancy popping my clogs yet, so i'm clinging to that one last hope, OK?

1rof1
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ok, let's give you one last wankfest.

the Mox goes into full meltdown, making a molten pool of highly radioactive shit, that is so hot it starts burning through everything, including the crust, flash boiling all the water it hits on the way down.

eventually, it contacts the copious amounts of magma miles beneath the nuke plant, and KABOOM, huge, volcanic/radioactive cloud gets shot up into the jetstream, to spread around the globe.

northern hemisphere dies first, then the cloud crosses the equator, and Australians are the last to die, in scenes reminiscent of 'On the Beach'

there, that better? lol
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Thx

First sorry for bad English
second: That video makes me sick. I recomend to watch it.look at the end there is a few second of a pers conference about MOX how they talk about it.abduct

I watched the youtube clip above about MOX.

Some fact might be helpfull I took this from the clip.


1.MOX rods look the same as normal rods.
2.Each fuel assembly has 264 fuel rods
3.Each fuel assembly is 30 feet in lenght (9.144 meters)
5.weights 1500 pounds.


hope this helps,
 Quoting: Tigershield

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Meltdown starts when there isn't anything to seperate the rods and they get too hot.
With 50% of the rods exposed, that means that 50% of the core is melting( or at a point where melting can happen.)
From what I've read , the water or graphite is used as the rod seperator...so now water, no seperation...melting starts.


Thanks for the insight...
Kind Regards,
Dan
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Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!!
Meltdown starts when there isn't anything to seperate the rods and they get too hot.
With 50% of the rods exposed, that means that 50% of the core is melting( or at a point where melting can happen.)
From what I've read , the water or graphite is used as the rod seperator...so now water, no seperation...melting starts.
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what does it mean when they say "partial meltdown" has occurred?

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i think they're just using this to their advantage now, to keep everyone distracted, like they do with every potential doom scenario.

if something bad was gonna happen, it would have already happened by now.

imho
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292909


Oy there, mate.

Cut the bullshit and tell us some more about Japanese radioactive, volcanic hellholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 856055


lol

oh, it's very much on. i just don't fancy popping my clogs yet, so i'm clinging to that one last hope, OK?

1rof1
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Oy there, mate!

You're a mighty fine chap! If I was in your part of England it would be a very grand pleasure for me to treat you to some pints and fish and chips at your favorite pub.

Oy, by the way, mate. Is there anyway you can set me up with Emma Watson?
[link to entertainment.ofwnow.com]

I'd love to have panic doom sex with her everyday and everynight until the bitter end comes.

Why I would even tongue her ringpiece, I would!

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