You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1081323 United States 03/13/2011 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! Has there been reports of an explosion at #3 Fukushima? Quoting: MadiganI just saw a twitter that is stating so. Please God let this be false! I know....weird. It was posted three hours ago. To the poster a couple posts ago.....at what time were you watching CNN that this happened? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1258936 United States 03/13/2011 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! Has there been reports of an explosion at #3 Fukushima? Quoting: MadiganI just saw a twitter that is stating so. Please God let this be false! I know....weird. It was posted three hours ago. To the poster a couple posts ago.....at what time were you watching CNN that this happened? Between 5:00 and 7:00. I came up to my computer to see if I could find anything on another news media about it other than gd mainstream media. I can't seem to find anything more. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1081323 United States 03/13/2011 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! Has there been reports of an explosion at #3 Fukushima? Quoting: MadiganI just saw a twitter that is stating so. Please God let this be false! I know....weird. It was posted three hours ago. To the poster a couple posts ago.....at what time were you watching CNN that this happened? Between 5:00 and 7:00. I came up to my computer to see if I could find anything on another news media about it other than gd mainstream media. I can't seem to find anything more. Well you know as well as I that this could just be B.S. but I'll post it anyway so you know what I'm referring to and see if anyone else has heard anything. juliancarter‎ An explosion in #3 reactor at Fukushima atomic plant in Japan has just been reported #japaneq Twitter - 3 hours ago |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1258936 United States 03/13/2011 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292914Well you know as well as I that this could just be B.S. but I'll post it anyway so you know what I'm referring to and see if anyone else has heard anything. juliancarter‎ An explosion in #3 reactor at Fukushima atomic plant in Japan has just been reported #japaneq Twitter - 3 hours ago Agreed. I'm still digging and will post if I find anything definitive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292523 United States 03/13/2011 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292914Please God let this be false! I know....weird. It was posted three hours ago. To the poster a couple posts ago.....at what time were you watching CNN that this happened? Between 5:00 and 7:00. I came up to my computer to see if I could find anything on another news media about it other than gd mainstream media. I can't seem to find anything more. Well you know as well as I that this could just be B.S. but I'll post it anyway so you know what I'm referring to and see if anyone else has heard anything. juliancarter‎ An explosion in #3 reactor at Fukushima atomic plant in Japan has just been reported #japaneq Twitter - 3 hours ago Cant find anything about an actual explosion... but I did find this: [link to news.xinhuanet.com] Says a hydrogen explosion possible at #3 reactor. also says they think the containment can withstand such an explosion... ummm...Right... just like containment withstood during the explosion at #1. That building definitely didn't look FUCKED UP after the blast... |
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hybrid777 User ID: 1280627 United States 03/13/2011 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! This appears to be a good government document on info on MOX. Here is a quote, "International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War estimates that 27 micrograms of insoluble plutonium-239 in the lungs would be sufficient to cause cancer in an adult human" Lets pile through this. Are we sure this is what was in the plants in question? [link to www.bredl.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 671825 United States 03/13/2011 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! Said this several pages back, and will say it again... From what I've read, MOX is NEW to Japan, and it is reported that they just started converting to this new fuel. That said, their typical containment protocal is not designed to deal with the level of volatility produced by Plutonium/Uranium meltdown. So, my guess is that the reactors that are currently in meltdown (and out of control), are all MOX facilities. Could be wrong (I hope so), but I suppose we'll see in the coming hours and days. Nonetheless, any ONE MOX reactor meltdown will be highly lethal to anyone in the immediate area, and thousands of times more impactful than Chernobyl... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 671825 United States 03/13/2011 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! This appears to be a good government document on info on MOX. Quoting: hybrid777Here is a quote, "International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War estimates that 27 micrograms of insoluble plutonium-239 in the lungs would be sufficient to cause cancer in an adult human" Lets pile through this. Are we sure this is what was in the plants in question? [link to www.bredl.org] From 1294917 on page 2 (it's a start).... This MOX is WORSE... it's a mix of depleted uranium and plutonium. All the bad points of MOX : [link to www10.antenna.nl] We can argue that the use of MOX fuel * has many proliferation risks * is no solution for the problem of the storage of high-level radioactive waste * it does not result in a substantial saving of uranium * bears many extra safety risks, and * is more expensive than the use of uranium fuel. Also on Japan : In February, Japanese nuclear utilities agreed to burn MOX fuel into 18 LWRs. Four of the 18, two BWRs and two PWRs, will load MOX by the year 2000. By 2010 all 18 LWRs will use MOX fuel. This is a clear policy shift from the earlier emphasis to burn plutonium in FBRs. The paper was written in 1997... Mox is really really bad... Spent MOX fuel is much more radioactive than spent uranium oxide fuel. It contains 4%-6.5% plutonium, depending on the initial Pu percentage. This is on average five times more plutonium than spent uranium fuel. Spent MOX fuel contains also much higher amounts of transuranium isotopes: four times as much Neptunium-237 (half-life: 2.2 million years); nine times as much Americium-241 (half-life 430 years), which decays into Neptunium-237; 15-28 times more Curium-242 (highly radioactive) and 22 times more Curium-244 (half-life 18 years), changing into plutonium-240 (half-life 6,450 years).15 After 10 years, the heat generation from spent MOX fuel is twice as high as that of spent uranium fuel. After 100 years, it is even three times higher.16 Given the very long half-life of Pu-242 (380,000 years), and Neptunium-237 (2.14 million years) the storage of spent MOX is much more complicated than of normal spent fuel. Instead of a partial solution of the high level waste problem, MOX creates even bigger waste problems: * it needs more and longer cooling; * it has to be stored much longer; * it is more dangerous; and * the costs are therefore higher. They are fucking insane to use this shit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1288576 United States 03/13/2011 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! This MOX is WORSE... it's a mix of depleted uranium and plutonium. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1294917No, that IS NOT FUCKING TRUE!! And the BIGGEST COMPLAINT in your link about MOX is that it ends up makingweapons grade plutonium. It is NO MORE DANGEROUS than uranium or plutonium when used in power plants. OR released into the air!!! YOU are absolutely full of shit SHILL. ALL Pu is weapons grade, and Plutonium IS significantly more toxic than Uranium. READ the info again. FISSILE uranium and plutonium are 'weapons-grade', and NOT ALL uranium and plutonium are fissile! If it ISN'T fissile, it will NOT cause a nuclear fission reaction (explosion for the morons). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1290321 United States 03/13/2011 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! AC, top of page and others back a page or so. What happened at the FIRST reactor WILL happen at the #3, as when the rods are exposed, temp RISES till rods melt, THEN water molecules in contact with these close to or over 2000 C pellets/rods SPLIT water into hydrogen and Oxigen, which can then RECOMBINE to water H2O, WITH EXPLOSION, just as reactor 1 DID! Sorry, but that probaby already happened. Will order the 2x10x14 foot planks to cover the outer walls/top of the entry way to my shelter tomorrow. Grandson home from college ( my STRONG right arm ) and we will cover planks with heavy mattress plastic ( to stop leaks onto my John Deere and generator ), and keep the dirt I will pile on top of that from overhead to cut radiation through my 3/4 inch steel door. Never thopught it would evolve down to LESS than a week for final preps. Sad so MANY grasshoppers out there chirped, danced and sang when they could have produced SOMETING to save themselves. Better say special prayers to who/whatever you 'worship' FIAT, sex, etc. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1128877 Canada 03/13/2011 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! Professor Patrick Regan, radiation and environmental protection expert from Surrey University, has told the BBC that it appears none of the secure vessels holding radioactive material at the reactors in Japan has broken, and "it looks like the worst is over". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276309Why in the hell are all these f**kers always saying....it appears....possibly.......maybe...presumably. They always throw in one of those words to cover their ass cause they are hiding something and not telling the truth. They seem to never give a straight yes or no. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292523 United States 03/13/2011 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! This MOX is WORSE... it's a mix of depleted uranium and plutonium. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1294917No, that IS NOT FUCKING TRUE!! And the BIGGEST COMPLAINT in your link about MOX is that it ends up makingweapons grade plutonium. It is NO MORE DANGEROUS than uranium or plutonium when used in power plants. OR released into the air!!! YOU are absolutely full of shit SHILL. ALL Pu is weapons grade, and Plutonium IS significantly more toxic than Uranium. All plutonium is NOT weapons grade... hence the reason for the existence ENRICHMENT plants. ever heard of "weapons-grade plutonium?" If it was ALL weapons-grade, they would just say "plutonium." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292914 United States 03/13/2011 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! Professor Patrick Regan, radiation and environmental protection expert from Surrey University, has told the BBC that it appears none of the secure vessels holding radioactive material at the reactors in Japan has broken, and "it looks like the worst is over". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276309Why in the hell are all these f**kers always saying....it appears....possibly.......maybe...presumably. They always throw in one of those words to cover their ass cause they are hiding something and not telling the truth. They seem to never give a straight yes or no. It will take 20 years for them to admit it... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 671825 United States 03/13/2011 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! AC, top of page and others back a page or so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290321What happened at the FIRST reactor WILL happen at the #3, as when the rods are exposed, temp RISES till rods melt, THEN water molecules in contact with these close to or over 2000 C pellets/rods SPLIT water into hydrogen and Oxigen, which can then RECOMBINE to water H2O, WITH EXPLOSION, just as reactor 1 DID! Sorry, but that probaby already happened. Will order the 2x10x14 foot planks to cover the outer walls/top of the entry way to my shelter tomorrow. Grandson home from college ( my STRONG right arm ) and we will cover planks with heavy mattress plastic ( to stop leaks onto my John Deere and generator ), and keep the dirt I will pile on top of that from overhead to cut radiation through my 3/4 inch steel door. Never thopught it would evolve down to LESS than a week for final preps. Sad so MANY grasshoppers out there chirped, danced and sang when they could have produced SOMETING to save themselves. Better say special prayers to who/whatever you 'worship' FIAT, sex, etc. . Thanks...you took my thunder, but sufficiently refuted shillbot's attempt above. Shill...just go back to sleep. It will be less painful that way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113183 United States 03/13/2011 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288576No, that IS NOT FUCKING TRUE!! And the BIGGEST COMPLAINT in your link about MOX is that it ends up makingweapons grade plutonium. It is NO MORE DANGEROUS than uranium or plutonium when used in power plants. OR released into the air!!! YOU are absolutely full of shit SHILL. ALL Pu is weapons grade, and Plutonium IS significantly more toxic than Uranium. All plutonium is NOT weapons grade... hence the reason for the existence ENRICHMENT plants. ever heard of "weapons-grade plutonium?" If it was ALL weapons-grade, they would just say "plutonium." The only place plutonium is created is in nuke plants - and them reusing that is MoX - when they say weapons grade that means it has been separated out of the nuke waste from the plant! So there is the liquid and then separated. Plutonium is MUCH WORSE Than Uranium. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292914 United States 03/13/2011 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288576No, that IS NOT FUCKING TRUE!! And the BIGGEST COMPLAINT in your link about MOX is that it ends up makingweapons grade plutonium. It is NO MORE DANGEROUS than uranium or plutonium when used in power plants. OR released into the air!!! YOU are absolutely full of shit SHILL. ALL Pu is weapons grade, and Plutonium IS significantly more toxic than Uranium. All plutonium is NOT weapons grade... hence the reason for the existence ENRICHMENT plants. ever heard of "weapons-grade plutonium?" If it was ALL weapons-grade, they would just say "plutonium." MOX can be weapons grade plutonium mixed with Uranium. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292523 United States 03/13/2011 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 671825YOU are absolutely full of shit SHILL. ALL Pu is weapons grade, and Plutonium IS significantly more toxic than Uranium. All plutonium is NOT weapons grade... hence the reason for the existence ENRICHMENT plants. ever heard of "weapons-grade plutonium?" If it was ALL weapons-grade, they would just say "plutonium." MOX can be weapons grade plutonium mixed with Uranium. And that's fine... I'm just saying that all plutonium is not weapons grade. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292914 United States 03/13/2011 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288576All plutonium is NOT weapons grade... hence the reason for the existence ENRICHMENT plants. ever heard of "weapons-grade plutonium?" If it was ALL weapons-grade, they would just say "plutonium." MOX can be weapons grade plutonium mixed with Uranium. And that's fine... I'm just saying that all plutonium is not weapons grade. True, but the stuff they us in MOX is enriched, and could possibly be weapons grade, it most likely is, because MOX is a method of disposing of nuclear warheads. I'm not sure where you could pull the records to see what fuel is being used in this particular reactor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 671825 United States 03/13/2011 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288576No, that IS NOT FUCKING TRUE!! And the BIGGEST COMPLAINT in your link about MOX is that it ends up makingweapons grade plutonium. It is NO MORE DANGEROUS than uranium or plutonium when used in power plants. OR released into the air!!! YOU are absolutely full of shit SHILL. ALL Pu is weapons grade, and Plutonium IS significantly more toxic than Uranium. All plutonium is NOT weapons grade... hence the reason for the existence ENRICHMENT plants. ever heard of "weapons-grade plutonium?" If it was ALL weapons-grade, they would just say "plutonium." Just shut up - please? [link to www.ccnr.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292523 United States 03/13/2011 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 671825YOU are absolutely full of shit SHILL. ALL Pu is weapons grade, and Plutonium IS significantly more toxic than Uranium. All plutonium is NOT weapons grade... hence the reason for the existence ENRICHMENT plants. ever heard of "weapons-grade plutonium?" If it was ALL weapons-grade, they would just say "plutonium." Just shut up - please? [link to www.ccnr.org] like this? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 671825 United States 03/13/2011 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288576All plutonium is NOT weapons grade... hence the reason for the existence ENRICHMENT plants. ever heard of "weapons-grade plutonium?" If it was ALL weapons-grade, they would just say "plutonium." MOX can be weapons grade plutonium mixed with Uranium. And that's fine... I'm just saying that all plutonium is not weapons grade. From the above posted link.... "Virtually any combination of plutonium isotopes -- the different forms of an element having different numbers of neutrons in their nuclei -- can be used to make a nuclear weapon. Not all combinations, however, are equally convenient or efficient." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292914 United States 03/13/2011 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292523MOX can be weapons grade plutonium mixed with Uranium. And that's fine... I'm just saying that all plutonium is not weapons grade. From the above posted link.... "Virtually any combination of plutonium isotopes -- the different forms of an element having different numbers of neutrons in their nuclei -- can be used to make a nuclear weapon. Not all combinations, however, are equally convenient or efficient." MOX is a doom cocktail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 856055 United States 03/13/2011 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You know, that MOX stuff they've put in the reactors? It's 2 MILLION TIMES more toxic than uranium!! AC 856055 .... You SLEPTn through eighth grade chemistry class, DIDN'T you ? Quoting: Eagle # 1 1290321Adding salt to water RAISES it's boiling point ! but, only a few degrees F ! Eagle Yeah, I wasn't paying attention in class as I should have been because you were sucking my dick. You were quite the cocksucker back in the day. |