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WARNING: FUKUSHIMA 3 facing meltdown, official now

 
TM62

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03/14/2011 10:29 AM
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Is my Math screwed up? Anyone?


So...1 Sievert = 1000 micro Sieverts?? If that is correct then the aforementioned 1,557.5 micro sievert = ~1.6 Sieverts??

Most meters measure these in rads/hr or Sieverts per hour. Normal is like 0.15 uSV/hr or 0.00000015 Sieverts per hour. If you ever get 1 Sievert of radiation or (100 rads) your are getting into really big trouble. Most folks see about 0.002 Sv per year...

Here is a nice meter at normal levels:

[link to team-titanium.com]
(See previous response for credit, I didn't find it, thanks)
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Perhaps does your name basically end up meaning "Silver Wind"? :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293082


What you sayin'??
 Quoting: TM62


TM62 in Pokemon teaches the move "Silver Wind" though that your name was because of that lol Guess not. Sorry.
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That would b cool if I did use that nomenclature purposely. But no, then I found that I am also a Russian anti-tank device, Silver Wind is most preferred in this case. Take care friend.

peace
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According to experts, any melted fuel would eat through the bottom of the reactor vessel. Next, it would eat through the floor of the already-damaged containment building. At that point, the uranium, plutonium and more dangerous byproducts would start escaping into the environment.

At some point in the process, the walls of the reactor vessel - 6 inches of stainless steel - would melt into a lava-like pile, slump into any remaining water on the floor, and potentially cause an explosion much bigger than the one caused by the hydrogen. Such an explosion would enhance the spread of radioactive contaminants.

If the reactor core became exposed to the external environment, officials would likely began pouring cement and sand over the entire facility, as was done at the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident in the Ukraine, Peter Bradford, a former commissioner of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said in a briefing for reporters.

In short, what we Americans call"The China Syndrome"
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03/14/2011 10:31 AM
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According to experts, any melted fuel would eat through the bottom of the reactor vessel. Next, it would eat through the floor of the already-damaged containment building. At that point, the uranium, plutonium and more dangerous byproducts would start escaping into the environment.

At some point in the process, the walls of the reactor vessel - 6 inches of stainless steel - would melt into a lava-like pile, slump into any remaining water on the floor, and potentially cause an explosion much bigger than the one caused by the hydrogen. Such an explosion would enhance the spread of radioactive contaminants.

If the reactor core became exposed to the external environment, officials would likely began pouring cement and sand over the entire facility, as was done at the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident in the Ukraine, Peter Bradford, a former commissioner of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said in a briefing for reporters.

In short, what we Americans call"The China Syndrome"
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Yes, it burns down to get to a water source which is not far down...? correct? violent flash steam explosion?
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03/14/2011 10:32 AM
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Help us all!!!!!
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03/14/2011 10:33 AM
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This is probably the worst possible nightmare unfolding next to a direct meteor hit in that area.
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03/14/2011 10:34 AM
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Perhaps does your name basically end up meaning "Silver Wind"? :)
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What you sayin'??
 Quoting: TM62


TM62 in Pokemon teaches the move "Silver Wind" though that your name was because of that lol Guess not. Sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293082


That would b cool if I did use that nomenclature purposely. But no, then I found that I am also a Russian anti-tank device, Silver Wind is most preferred in this case. Take care friend.

peace
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Haha you got it man. You as well. Btw the TM stands for Technical Machine, obviously #62 in pokemon just incase you wondered why it was named as such.
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03/14/2011 10:34 AM
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Everyone come TO JERSEY! IS SAFE HERE
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The winds will eventually blow here too.
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03/14/2011 10:35 AM
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Everyone come TO JERSEY! IS SAFE HERE
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The winds will eventually blow here too.
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I know the girls do :)
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Re: WARNING: FUKUSHIMA 3 facing meltdown, official now
1431: More from Japanese nuclear engineer Masashi Goto: He say that as the reactor uses mox (mixed oxide) fuel, the melting point is lower than that of conventional fuel.

Should a meltdown and an explosion occur, he says, plutonium could be spread over an area up to twice as far as estimated for a conventional nuclear fuel explosion. The next 24 hours are critical, he says.
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Re: WARNING: FUKUSHIMA 3 facing meltdown, official now
getting worse - be sure mainstream media is not telling 100% truth - govt spokesmen cover-up to avoid panic & responsibility



ACCUWEATHER: Winds to carry radiation to the U.S. West coast.
And then at the end they have a list of the time In days for the radiation to reach the U.S. west coast.
[link to www.accuweather.com]

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this is a very good link for current on-air Japan news, not a loop:
[link to www.ustream.tv]

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Monday, Aug. 23, 2010
Fukushima reactor receives MOX
FUKUSHIMA (Kyodo) Tokyo Electric Power Co. on Saturday loaded a nuclear reactor in Fukushima


Prefecture with MOX, a controversial fuel made with reprocessed plutonium and uranium oxides,


as it prepares to become the leading power utility's first facility to go pluthermal.


[link to search.japantimes.co.jp]

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New cybervirus found in Japan / Stuxnet designed to attack off-line servers via USB memory sticks
The Yomiuri Shimbun

Stuxnet, a computer virus designed to attack servers isolated from the Internet, such as at power plants, has been confirmed on 63 personal computers in Japan since July, according to major security firm Symantec Corp.
The virus does not cause any damage online, but once it enters an industrial system, it can send a certain program out of control.
Symantec says the virus reaches the servers via USB memory sticks, and warns against the careless use of such devices.
Systems at power plants, gas stations and water facilities are not connected to the Internet to protect them from cyber-attacks.

[link to www.yomiuri.co.jp]


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Satellite Imagery
[link to www.jma.go.jp]
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03/14/2011 10:38 AM
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Re: WARNING: FUKUSHIMA 3 facing meltdown, official now
No one actually knows how this will unfold as it's unprecedented.
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03/14/2011 10:40 AM
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hopefully this is beginning of the end of capitalism as well. world cannot longer sustain its bourgeoisie.
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and what will replace it?
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communist dictators and useful idiots.
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03/14/2011 10:40 AM
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Re: WARNING: FUKUSHIMA 3 facing meltdown, official now
theoretically, the fuel would melt down and burn a hole into the earths crust, for how long depends on how long the fuel goes until it burns out. Water table may not stop it...What is the half life on this MOX fuel?
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03/14/2011 10:42 AM
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nuke poison wont cross the doldrums so it wont come here
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are you nuts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279266


No, just desperate tro rationalize his terror away.
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remember our leaders dont have secret service= we can approach them in the streets and at their homes and wofk places. makes them less likely to lie over these matters. watch all your leaders head here if it does get smelly.

australia, NZ, SA, and antarctica = no fallout from northern nuketard neighbours

reaseach if in doubtohyeah
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lol@nuketards
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03/14/2011 10:43 AM
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hopefully this is beginning of the end of capitalism as well. world cannot longer sustain its bourgeoisie.
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fuck off obama
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03/14/2011 10:44 AM
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Re: WARNING: FUKUSHIMA 3 facing meltdown, official now
theoretically, the fuel would melt down and burn a hole into the earths crust, for how long depends on how long the fuel goes until it burns out. Water table may not stop it...What is the half life on this MOX fuel?
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I think someone said 24,000 years?
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03/14/2011 10:44 AM
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We're in a deep shit nigga...
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Re: WARNING: FUKUSHIMA 3 facing meltdown, official now
theoretically, the fuel would melt down and burn a hole into the earths crust, for how long depends on how long the fuel goes until it burns out. Water table may not stop it...What is the half life on this MOX fuel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982227


With the amount of plutonium at that site, if a small proportion is leaked, the site itself will be contaminated for 10,000 years or so.
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1431: More from Japanese nuclear engineer Masashi Goto: He say that as the reactor uses mox (mixed oxide) fuel, the melting point is lower than that of conventional fuel.

Should a meltdown and an explosion occur, he says, plutonium could be spread over an area up to twice as far as estimated for a conventional nuclear fuel explosion. The next 24 hours are critical, he says.
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Are you saying from nuclear reactor now has become nuclear dirty bomb?
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03/14/2011 10:46 AM
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No one actually knows how this will unfold as it's unprecedented.
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Exactly. And even if we did know we are powerless to stop it. Sit back and ride the lightning!
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03/14/2011 10:48 AM
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Everyone come TO JERSEY! IS SAFE HERE
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The winds will eventually blow here too.
 Quoting: mikie8865


I know the girls do :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1000222


Only in Jersey, is that why there are more males that females, geez , that figures !
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Yes, because MOX FUEL is recycled nuclear grade weapons material, see article


MOX Fuel From Weapons-Grade Plutonium


Nuclear Power Industry News


On February 25, 2010, the U.S. National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) announced that it entered into an inter-agency agreement with the government owned Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) in order to evaluate the use of a nuclear fuel made from surplus weapons plutonium. This announcement comes on the heels of President Obama’s recently submitted FY 2011 Budget Request, which included a 25.8% increase in funding to the NNSA.

One reason for the increase in funding relates to an agreement between Russia and the United States, initially signed in 2000, known as the Plutonium Management and Disposition Agreement. According to this Agreement, each country agreed to dispose of, or immobilize, 34 tons of surplus weapons-grade plutonium. Initially, both sides began dismantling nuclear weapons and simply stored the nuclear material. However, concerns on both sides began to grow regarding the ability to quickly reassemble the nuclear material into weapons should the need arise.

This resulted in both sides initiating efforts to use the surplus nuclear material in nuclear reactors, which would physically tranform the nuclear material into a material that is unsuitable for use in nuclear weapons. To this end, a facility called the Mixed Oxide Fuel Fabrication Facility (MFFF), located at the Savannah River Site in South Carolina, is currently being constructed which will convert weapons-grade plutonium into nuclear fuel that can be used in existing U.S. commercial reactor plants.
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03/14/2011 10:51 AM
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[link to english.kyodonews.jp]


Radiation 1,000 times higher than normal detected
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No one actually knows how this will unfold as it's unprecedented.
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Exactly. And even if we did know we are powerless to stop it. Sit back and ride the lightning!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 570175


Perfect. Thats exactly what I've been telling my family. Kick back and ride the lightning~ *headbangs to metallica*
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i want a link that confirms this MOX, never heared about that in german tv
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Go to [link to sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com]

She gives links about MOX fuel
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[link to english.kyodonews.jp]


Radiation 1,000 times higher than normal detected
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No offense but that is ~2 days or more old? XD
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03/14/2011 10:54 AM
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What we need is this stuff to cover the whole complex in - not concreate ..

Very Low volume but bear with it.



But the PTB made this discovery disappear into the black world despite the inventors wishes
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03/14/2011 10:56 AM

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BREAKING NEWS: Fukushima's 3 reactors highly likely facing melting: Edano (21:41)

[link to english.kyodonews.jp]

on the breaking news section
 Quoting: AD 1217946


OP are you sure this is not about #2?
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
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BREAKING NEWS: Fukushima's 3 reactors highly likely facing melting: Edano (21:41)

[link to english.kyodonews.jp]

on the breaking news section
 Quoting: AD 1217946


OP are you sure this is not about #2?
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No, it was "Reactor 3" mentioned, unfortunately...
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[link to english.kyodonews.jp]


Radiation 1,000 times higher than normal detected
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No offense but that is ~2 days or more old? XD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293082


No Problem, your right I didnt catch the date on it, but it is still a scary thing.

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