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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War "Destruction of the settlements is, for many religious Zionists, tantamount to the destruction of the State of Israel.” For these Zionists, the Gaza withdrawal is, in a fundamental way, closing the door on the Messiah." I´d never looked at this like this before. I don´t think there´s anything worse than someone fighting for their ´religion´...worse than scary! Would some ´zionest´ even use an Israeli nuke to take out Sharon? |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War RUMORS OF WAR by J. R. Nyquist "Of course, the lunatic fringe has long held that bin Laden is an American agent and 9-11 a CIA or Mossad operation. There is a curious preemptive symmetry to certain claims, perhaps on the order of a confession; and these may deserve further analysis. With a wink to the lunatic fringe, Russia’s Sorcha Faal routinely feeds anti-American hokum to gullible conspiracy buffs on the Internet. Faal is worth noting because Russian crackpots are special – as seen in the example of Tatyana Koryagina and 9-11. The Russian special services know what’s going on, and they cannot resist using their knowledge. Russia’s president was a career KGB officer. Going back more than 100 years, the Russian secret police concocted some of the greatest conspiracy hoaxes of all time (including the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and items related to the Kennedy assassination). With Sorcha Faal we stumble upon a rich tapestry of similar offerings. According to Faal, Russia is preparing for war against the United States. Russia’s allies include China, Iran and the usual suspects. Furthermore, Faal suggests that America will be driven to “aggression” by a “triggering event” (presumably terrorist). Already, she says, elements in the U.S. military are seeking to avoid war through an uprising against President Bush. (Please note: rumors of an alleged U.S. military uprising are part and parcel of Moscow’s pre-war gray terror scenario as described by a GRU defector Viktor Suvorov in a book titled Spetsnaz.) Faal suggests that World War III will begin with U.S. strikes into Iran, unless the American military overthrows Bush. She also says that plans have been laid for martial law in the United States (similar to the claims of other conspiracy theorists)." [link to www.financialsense.com] |
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John the Baptist 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War RV, very interesting thought. I cannot guess how "sorcha" pulls together these bulletins so darned fast. I have been tracking the links and, what is reported is on the Net for anyone to find. This whole Israel/Gaza/Temple thing has me concerned, to say the least. Add to that the various wargames going on, the oil refinery explosions, the van filled with high explosives, the recent warning about tanker-trucks (even though Homeland Security just lowered the alert level)...strange things on the winds these days. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War "The owner of the Camry, a sailor whose ship the USS Theodore Roosevelt just returned from an eight-month cruise," First of all the USS Theodore Roosevelt is based out of Norfolk and wouldn´t dock in California. Secondly, what ´eight-month cruise´? Someone better tell the Navy because that´s not what they´re reporting: Operation Brewing Storm Underway Off Atlantic Coast Story Number: NNS050720-01 Release Date: 7/20/2005 10:35:00 AM From U.S. 2nd Fleet Public Affairs NORFOLK, Va. (NNS) -- More than 15,000 service members from four countries are participating in Joint Task Force Exercise (JTFEX) 05-2, Operation Brewing Storm, July 14–22. Operation Brewing Storm presents U.S. and coalition forces with realistic and dynamic exercise threats that closely replicate operational challenges military forces routinely encounter around the world. It is designed to provide quality, realistic training to prepare U.S. forces for joint and combined operations. “This exercise provides the strike group with valuable experience in joint and combined operations, while giving each an opportunity to refine their key tactical skills,” said Vice Adm. Mark Fitzgerald, commander, U.S. 2nd Fleet. [link to www.news.navy.mil] story_id=19243 By mid-January 2005 USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) and Carrier Air Wing Eight (CVW-8) are underway again, and the flight deck was back in business. TR conducted carrier flight deck certifications, which took a tremendous amount of manpower to make this evolution happen. Certifications become a necessity for aircraft carriers coming out of dry-docking planned incremental availability (DPIA). Every job performed by personnel from the hangar bay and flight deck to those in Supply and Medical is observed and evaluated. By April 2005 the nuclear powered aircraft carrier, and Carrier Air Wing Eight (CAG-8) were underway for Tailored Ship Training Availability and Final Evaluation Problem (TSTA/FEP) in the Atlantic Ocean. A ceremony held aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) (TR) 04 May 2005 recognized the ongoing friendship between Spain and the United States with the joining of a Spanish ship to the TR Carrier Strike Group. Alvaro de Bazan (F 101), a medium-size Spanish frigate, officially became a part of Carrier Strike Group 2. By 19 May 2005 USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) was underway off the coast of Virginia, conducting carrier qualifications in the Atlantic Ocean. [link to www.globalsecurity.org] vy/batgru-71.htm |
An nonymous 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War Tasked with maintaining open sea lanes of trade and communications, TR is capable of projecting air superiority to all points of the globe. The embarked Carrier Air Wing ONE aircraft serve as outstanding instruments of peace. Anytime and anywhere TR reports for duty, she brings 4.5 acres of sovreign U.S. territory and 97,000 tons of diplomacy. TR´s equipment and crew are always maintained at the highest state of readiness. This enables the ship to carry out a wide variety of missions, including: air warfare, strike warfare, surface warfare, undersea warfare and electronic warfare. TR also shares the task of replenishing ships at sea and performing a variety of non-combat missions, such as the rescue at sea of people in distress and the transport of refugees and others in need of help. " [link to www.globalsecurity.org] /agency/navy/batgru-71.htm |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War "By mid-January 2005 USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) and Carrier Air Wing Eight (CVW-8) are underway again, and the flight deck was back in business." That´s funny, it´s been 8 months. Don´t point the finger at me though. I didn´t write the news article. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War what the greek airline was targetting the aircraft carrier, mauahaha, wouldn´t the 121 passengers and crew notice the missiles attached to the wings. ahahah sorhca load of lies, but entertaining clancy work again. |
An nonymous 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War Where is the Theodore Roosevelt? It is not listed among the ships deployed as of August 12th: [link to www.chinfo.navy.mil] |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War The story you referred to is some good ole fashioned US Navy disinfo to ´distract´ from where are ships really are....we are at war you know. The US Navy also lists their status: Ships Underway (away from homeport): 124 (43% of total) On deployment: 107 ships (37% of total) Submarines underway (away from homeport): 18 submarines (35% of submarine force) On deployment: 22 submarines (43% of submarine force) [link to www.navy.mil] But of course we know that they aren´t reporting the ´real´ facts, in fact they´d be stupid to do that in war time. Besides, look at the obvious: the USS Roosevelt just finished up Operation Brewing Storm ( I love that name!) on July 24th and there´s no way it could have made it from the Atlantic to the Pacific in this short amount of time. Remember, our aircraft carriers DO NOT use the Panama Canal. And again, this aircraft carrier is part of the Atlantic Fleet, not the Pacific Fleet. |
zacksavage 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War I´m not pointing the finger 3147, it is interesting that you found a story that seems in error,...or maybe not. What in print is to be believed these days? Maybe there is someone good with google satellite that can pinpoint the group for us. That would be cool. Z |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War "what the greek airline was targetting the aircraft carrier, mauahaha, wouldn´t the 121 passengers and crew notice the missiles attached to the wings. ahahah sorhca load of lies, but entertaining clancy work again." Idiot....the airliner would have simply crashed into the carrier. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War Here´s the Homepage for the USS Theodore Roosevelt with its last message posted on July 26, 2005...when it went ´off grid´. [link to www.tr.surfor.navy.mil] |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War So what happened to all the ships AFTER Operation Brewing Storm, July 14–22? |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War "what the greek airline was targetting the aircraft carrier" Suicide hit no doubt, remember the World Trade Center? DUH! Besides, the US Navy has a strong reluctance to shooting down passenger planes. "On patrol in the Persian Gulf, the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian passenger jet that it had mistaken for a hostile Iranian fighter aircraft. U.S. Navy Captain Will C. Rogers III ordered a single missile fired from his warship, which hit its target and killed all 290 people aboard the commercial airbus. The attack came towards the end of the Iran-Iraq War, while U.S. vessels in the Persian Gulf had been patrolling to ward off Iranian attacks on Kuwaiti oil tankers. The international community was outraged by the American attack on a large civilian aircraft, but the Pentagon and White House defended the action." [link to www.historychannel.com] blunders/mb_iasd.html |
An nonymous 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War Lottsa personnel activity: "FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE May 25, 2005 TR frocking ceremony rocks the house By JO3 John Cokos More than 250 Sailors moved forward in their careers Monday during a high-spirited frocking ceremony in the hangar bay. The ceremony sent Sailors from every department on the ship into the next pay grade, including 137 third class petty officers, 86 second class petty officers, 24 first class petty officers and nine senior chief petty officers. ..." [link to www.tr.surfor.navy.mil] " Capt. J.R. Haley relieved Capt. Johnny ‘Turk’ Green as commanding officer of USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) in a change of command ceremony, June 9, 2005. During the ceremony, Green told the crew what a great job they have done as well as what an honor it has been to be the commanding officer of such a fine war-fighting ship as the Theodore Roosevelt. " |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War "I´m trying to find out where it is right now. Pretty strange." Hummm, so you´re trying to find the location of a US Navy Carrier Strike Force during wartime and you´re having trouble? For the life of me I can´t figure out why? |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War As far as I can see, EVERYTHING she wrote is correct! Just placed within the wrong context... Makes an interesting reading and sure is thought provoking...everything I look for in a good (fiction) writer... |
Rev. Star Gazer 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War If it was part of a carrier group in the Atlantic in May, if find hard to believe that it would be docked in California in August. Definitely some disinformation going on here. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War "If it was part of a carrier group in the Atlantic in May," Not just May but 3 weeks ago today it was in the Atlantic: Operation Brewing Storm Underway Off Atlantic Coast Story Number: NNS050720-01 Release Date: 7/20/2005 10:35:00 AM From U.S. 2nd Fleet Public Affairs NORFOLK, Va. (NNS) -- More than 15,000 service members from four countries are participating in Joint Task Force Exercise (JTFEX) 05-2, Operation Brewing Storm, July 14–22. Operation Brewing Storm presents U.S. and coalition forces with realistic and dynamic exercise threats that closely replicate operational challenges military forces routinely encounter around the world. It is designed to provide quality, realistic training to prepare U.S. forces for joint and combined operations. “This exercise provides the strike group with valuable experience in joint and combined operations, while giving each an opportunity to refine their key tactical skills,” said Vice Adm. Mark Fitzgerald, commander, U.S. 2nd Fleet. JTFEX 05-2 serves as the forward-certifying event for the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) Carrier Strike Group (CSG), as sustainment training for the USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) CSG, and as component commander certification for the United Kingdom Maritime Force (UKMARFOR) staff. JTFEX 05-2, conducted off the U.S. East Coast from the waters off Virginia to Florida, will also make use of training ranges ashore. U.S. and coalition partners include the Theodore Roosevelt CSG (Commander, CSG 2), Theodore Roosevelt; the Harry S. Truman CSG (Commander, CSG 10); Carrier Air Wing 8; Carrier Air Wing 3; Commander, Destroyer Group 22; USS San Jacinto (CG 56); Alvaro De Bazan; USS Donald Cook (DDG 75); USS Oscar Austin (DDG 79), USS Laboon (DDG 58), USS Carr (FFG 52), USS Porter (DDG 78), and USNS John Lenthall (T-AO 189), all homeported in Norfolk, Va. Other participating units are USS Gettysburg (CG 64), homeported in Mayport, Fla. In addition, Commander, U.K. Maritime Force, Rear Adm. Charles Style and his staff will participate as the Force Maritime Component Command, homeported in Northwood, Middlesex, United Kingdom. [link to www.news.navy.mil] story_id=19243 |
Gisgaia nli 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: F-16 Fighters Down Passenger Plane Targeting US Aircraft Carrier, American President Censors Top General as Israel Prepares For Total War Kent Steadman has put up some info suggesting this plane was victim of a scalar attack. That the occupants were "frozen" ... hmmmmm See this: [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] If Sorcha´s sources are incorrect in their assessment, other angles to consider are: --- who might have been on that plane that the NWO & ptb puppets needed to have taken out? --- what might have been contained with the cargo hold? |