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Yes, Reincarnation is how it works on Earth!!

 
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Reincarnation is a dumb idea imo
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The idea sounds dumb only to dumb people.

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Probably the best known, if not most respected, collection of scientific data that appears to provide scientific proof that reincarnation is real, is the life's work of Dr. Ian Stevenson. Instead of relying on hypnosis to verify that an individual has had a previous life, he instead chose to collect thousands of cases of children who spontaneously (without hypnosis) remember a past life. Dr. Ian Stevenson uses this approach because spontaneous past life memories in a child can be investigated using strict scientific protocols. Hypnosis, while useful in researching into past lives, is less reliable from a purely scientific perspective. In order to collect his data, Dr. Stevenson methodically documents the child's statements of a previous life. Then he identifies the deceased person the child remembers being, and verifies the facts of the deceased person's life that match the child's memory. He even matches birthmarks and birth defects to wounds and scars on the deceased, verified by medical records. His strict methods systematically rule out all possible "normal" explanations for the child’s memories.

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[link to lipgravy.com] (dumb people will not "get" this at all)
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Reincarnation contradicts resurrection and is lie of Satan to cause confusion.
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That's only true if you believe it's true.
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When reincarnation occurs, it doesn't necessarily meant that you will reincarnate as human or on this planet. You could reincarnate as an animal on this planet or an alien on another planet. Or you could reincarnate as another entities in another dimension.
One way to explain the existence of the Christian God could be that he was born into one particular plane or dimension where there was nobody there yet. So he thought that he was the first and proclaimed himself as such. But that plane is also subject to the same rule that we have: creation, existence, attenuation and destroy.
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List of bad ideas--

1.create multiple religions each saying it is right the others are wrong
2.send people to hell for all eternity (even the courts give you time off for good behaviour)for a lifetime of "sin"
3.define "sin" as eating a fruit from a tree-eating a pig-drinking alcohol-having sex(for some reason other species on earth are not covered by this one)-killing,unless it is at the request of the political leadership of the group
4.reincarnation-if and only if I cant remember my past lives to learn from them.

HT I always love your posts.
And I agree that reincarnation is the rule-even though I can't remember past lives.But my take on this is as follows-eternity in hell for a lifetime of "sin" or eternity in heaven for a lifetime of prayer is just silly and unfair.So thats out
I have had enough strange -very strange-events occur that I realize that there is more to life than physical reality.Again reincarnation works in this picture.

However-I do not think reincarnation is a good deal for us.
I view it as a form of slavery.We HAVE to come back HERE?
Why can't I reincarnate on a planet that actually has sane people-sane policies on it?
We keep coming back to this place and deal with the same problems we always had because the GAME is RIGGED.

No one person can change the system or create a a system that works for all humanity without either getting shot or the designed system getting absorbed into the grand game.

Its rigged.And not in our favor.
So while I agree with reincarnation-I do not think its as benign as people make it out to be.
 Quoting: Dervish


I don't like the Idea of reincarnation over and over again either, especially with memories erased or stolen, but I'll take it over the eternal torment BS!!

I personally think Earth's astral realm has been taken over by dark forces, and uses reincarnation to keep us here as slaves, which isn't what its intended design was to be used for!!

So yes, its been rigged!!

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I take it you have not yet read Robert Monroe's books? Yes indeed, the astral realm has been tampered with. There are 3 bands of negative energy surrounding our planet (only visible in the astral). It's within these bands where you'll find all the different belief systems - ALL OF THEM. Heaven, hell, happy hunting ground,etc., etc., etc., Monroe "visited" earth in the year we would call 3000 AD and these bands were no longer there, the incredible noise is gone, all evidence of mankind ever having been here are totally gone. Mother Earth has been restored to her original pristine self. The "game" is almost complete.
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I am bored with my life should I commit suicide?
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List of bad ideas--

1.create multiple religions each saying it is right the others are wrong
2.send people to hell for all eternity (even the courts give you time off for good behaviour)for a lifetime of "sin"
3.define "sin" as eating a fruit from a tree-eating a pig-drinking alcohol-having sex(for some reason other species on earth are not covered by this one)-killing,unless it is at the request of the political leadership of the group
4.reincarnation-if and only if I cant remember my past lives to learn from them.

HT I always love your posts.
And I agree that reincarnation is the rule-even though I can't remember past lives.But my take on this is as follows-eternity in hell for a lifetime of "sin" or eternity in heaven for a lifetime of prayer is just silly and unfair.So thats out
I have had enough strange -very strange-events occur that I realize that there is more to life than physical reality.Again reincarnation works in this picture.

However-I do not think reincarnation is a good deal for us.
I view it as a form of slavery.We HAVE to come back HERE?
Why can't I reincarnate on a planet that actually has sane people-sane policies on it?
We keep coming back to this place and deal with the same problems we always had because the GAME is RIGGED.

No one person can change the system or create a a system that works for all humanity without either getting shot or the designed system getting absorbed into the grand game.

Its rigged.And not in our favor.
So while I agree with reincarnation-I do not think its as benign as people make it out to be.
 Quoting: Dervish


I don't like the Idea of reincarnation over and over again either, especially with memories erased or stolen, but I'll take it over the eternal torment BS!!

I personally think Earth's astral realm has been taken over by dark forces, and uses reincarnation to keep us here as slaves, which isn't what its intended design was to be used for!!

So yes, its been rigged!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


I take it you have not yet read Robert Monroe's books? Yes indeed, the astral realm has been tampered with. There are 3 bands of negative energy surrounding our planet (only visible in the astral). It's within these bands where you'll find all the different belief systems - ALL OF THEM. Heaven, hell, happy hunting ground,etc., etc., etc., Monroe "visited" earth in the year we would call 3000 AD and these bands were no longer there, the incredible noise is gone, all evidence of mankind ever having been here are totally gone. Mother Earth has been restored to her original pristine self. The "game" is almost complete.
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No, haven't read them yet, but most definitely are on my list to do so!! 


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And you really KNOW how it works ??

We are extremely ignorant as a species about the realities of life in this universe much less the spiritual realm.

You may think you know, or you may have faith, but believe me you don't have a clue.

Get ready for a big surprise.
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hmm. i remember the place before i was born. i remember other times. are ye trying to say i should pay no attention to my own experiences and just "trust" ye?
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Sorry I dont want to bring anybody down, these are just my take on the human species so take them with a grain of salt.

The mortal experience happens in our minds.
100% of it.
All of it.

Just because you think you remember an event pre birth or an event from yesterday does not mean it actually happened.
Studies have shown that humans can not tell the difference between reality and a false or suggested memory.

I have a friend that was schizophrenic that used to sit on a park bench and watch monsters walk by all day and he thought they were real too.

Were they actually there ??
I dont know. Maybe for him, but not for me or maybe I just could not tap into his sense of reality.

People just try to reduce truth in reality to a simple
formula and there is nothing simple about IMO.

Born Die born die born over and over again until you get it right ?? Maybe for some but not for everybody IMO. Boring anyway.

Got into a discussion with a friend about all of these physicist trying to define the laws of universe with mathematical formulas developed in the material world, but my question was if God is infinite and or the universe is infinite how can you solve the big riddle with a finite formula.

Yes I believe in Karma and I think you could be reincarnated, but I also think you could go to heaven or hell or maybe to a totally different reality that is so far from our comprehension we could not even discuss it here logically.

Us humans, our experience, our souls, the universe and the spirit of universal life is not black and white.
It has an infinite number of shades of gray, so I just dont think you can put our existence in a box and put a label it.

The 64 million dollar question everybody wants to know is why are we here, and that too IMO has a multitude of answers so deep we can not comprehend but a small part of it.

One thing I do believe is that as a species on this earth we are special, but we just dont know why yet.

More lately I am beginning to believe we create a large part of your own destiny/reality through faith.
If believe in reincarnation and you want to be reborn you will.
If you want to move on to heaven you will.
If you are inherently evil and pact with the devil and resign yourself to hell, well you will probably go there.

Unfortunately the human experience is so limited in understanding that we really only have our faith to rely on.
 Quoting: Fishy6

ye could be right with all yer speculation. however, my experience is the only thing i can use. yer experience is all ye can use. i've no problem with that, but to call another wrong just because their experience is not the same is yers merely shows a lack of experience. so i could be imagining things, or insane, or any number of things - but there is no reason for me to believe yer experience makes ye any better a judge of what is than i am.
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I am bored with my life should I commit suicide?
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I wouldn't recommend it!!

If your bored, find a passion and pursue it!!


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Each life yields a new experience; so you will come many times until you understand your reason for being.
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Reincarnation is a dumb idea imo
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Yes, it's obvious. We'll know everything there is to know in the Universe by the time we're on our death bed. Once we've learned that, why come back?
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The Japanese are Buddhists. Karma didn' work too well. Maybe if they had not rejected the one true Lord God Jesus all this bad would not have happened.

And look, it seems since their auto plants have been destroyed American brands could pickup the sales. Other products, too.

The Bible does not support your previous life lie, and it does not support any diembodied soul. You and i are souls. When we are all resurrected the soul is what is remembered since the body has decayed. We are given new bodies, the righteous glorified bodies and the wicked an old body good for the coiming hell fire.
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OP, I have met people who can travel trough time and are paranormal gifted and they have confirmed me that I had a previous life and that I was sent here on a mission. For "The Battle".
Marcus 11: 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
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Loving hour posts HardTruth.

Have you read the Shopping For Spirit Articles?
[link to www.equilibrauk.com]

It talks about how the astral world is a false world, and isn't our true birth place. And how the "archons" rule over that world. Interesting articles.

More about the Archons:
[link to www.scribd.com]


Also Remarkable Healings by Dr. Modi talks about entity attachments, and how some people are born with entity attachments, which might explain why some children have imaginary friends they can only see. Also it can explain why so many people are two-faced.
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List of bad ideas--

No one person can change the system or create a a system that works for all humanity without either getting shot or the designed system getting absorbed into the grand game.

Its rigged.And not in our favor.
So while I agree with reincarnation-I do not think its as benign as people make it out to be.
 Quoting: Dervish


Why? Nobody is forcing you to reincarnate. We come back out of the desire to prove we can overcome our weaknesses and shortcomings. Trust me, the end result is worth it. I'd come back here a million times if that's what it took...
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Lets look at this one at a time.
no one is forceing us to reincarnate?
Are you sure?
We come back to prove we can overcome..
I dont buy that. Unless you believe that we started out as blank slate mindless entities and our spiritual selves evolve in step with our physical self. I would like to believe that spiritual time is non linear and outside of physical limits and rules.
Trust you the end result is worth it.
How do you know-been there got the t-shirt and came back?
What is the end result?

You would come back a million times if thats what it took?
How about if 999999 of those times you were a starveing child in Africa or India?
And a million times is about right if we CANT REMEMBER THE LESSONS WE LEARNED IN THE PAST.
I know enough to know that I know nothing
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Reincarnation is a dumb idea imo
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Yes, it's obvious. We'll know everything there is to know in the Universe by the time we're on our death bed. Once we've learned that, why come back?
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LOL, who said you've got a choice in the matter?


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Loving hour posts HardTruth.

Have you read the Shopping For Spirit Articles?
[link to www.equilibrauk.com]

It talks about how the astral world is a false world, and isn't our true birth place. And how the "archons" rule over that world. Interesting articles.

More about the Archons:
[link to www.scribd.com]


Also Remarkable Healings by Dr. Modi talks about entity attachments, and how some people are born with entity attachments, which might explain why some children have imaginary friends they can only see. Also it can explain why so many people are two-faced.
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Thanks, Links look interesting, I'll check them out!!

I know there's a lot that happens behind the scenes were just not allowed to know!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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Origen, "the most prominent of the church fathers with the possible exception of Augustine," taught the pre-existence of the soul. (Encyclopedia Britannica)

In AD 553, the Emperor Justinian convinced the pope to convene the Council of Constantinople which condemned the ideas of Origen. Those who continued to believe in pre-existence and rebirth were persecuted, and this campaign of slaughter effectively forced the concept underground.

Had it not been for the council, the Christian Church might well have been teaching pre-existence and rebirth as a basic doctrine all these years.

"Jesus said, 'If they say to you, From where have you originated? say to them, 'We have come from the Light, where the Light has originated through itself.'" (The Book of Thomas, Nag Hammadi Texts)

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." (Jer 1:5)

The above is a biblical implication that we existed in some form before we were born!!

John the Baptist was the reincarnated Elijah!!

Matthew 11: 11: Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
12: And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
13: For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
14: And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
15: He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

John the Baptist, the prophet that was the herald of Jesus, had been the Jewish Ninth Century B.C. prophet Elijah. "...For all the prophets and the Law foretold things to come until John appeared, and John is the destined Elijah, if you will but accept it.."


Even your Jesus and apostles knew reincarnation is how it works!!

The blind man who wasn't a sinner!!
John 9:
1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents....

In asking why he WAS BORN BLIND the apostles was asking what did he do (his sin) in a previous life to be born blind!!

Preparing to Be Reborn

I was given a time limit in heaven right from the start. The days were much longer there; I had 77 of them in which to relax before I incarnated once again. I judge this to be at least 10 years on Earth, because I was allowed to "peek" at my current mother's life as it progressed.

My first view of her was when she was about twenty years old. I periodically checked up on her for the rest of my time in heaven, getting to know her before I was born as her daughter (she had me when she was thirty-four).

I actually knew her in spirit, of course, but as spirits we're sometimes very different from our earthly selves. I was trying to become familiar with her human personality in this life, which was formed from a great deal of hardship, as I observed while there.

Even though I had hand-selected my new life, I was literally counting the days until I could return to human form. It's hard to leave a comfortable home for an uncertain future! And surprisingly, that is very much emphasized in heaven: you never know what might happen on Earth.

There's a dark place, like a cave, where spirits go to fall toward their incarnate life. Before you enter, a group surrounds you, blessing you and praying that everything will go as it was divinely planned. But of course, there are no guarantees.

The falling itself didn't scare me - it's like going down a dark, nondescript elevator shaft with different levels flashing by. On occasion your soul stops at some level to be "tinkered with," to be adjusted to life in a physical world or to have your memory blocked. One of these "tinkerers" asked me nervously if I was absolutely sure I wanted to do this. And I told him yes. I was excited to be living again.

[link to www.beyondreligion.com]

Reincarnation is how it works on this planet, there is no hell!!


Michael Newton - Past Life Regression 1 of 5
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Michael Newton - Past Life Regression 2 of 5
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Michael Newton - Past Life Regression 3 of 5
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Michael Newton - Past Life Regression 4 of 5
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Michael Newton - Past Life Regression 5 of 5
[link to www.youtube.com]


Reincarnation Stories
[link to www.beyondreligion.com]

Near Death Experience Research Foundation
[link to www.nderf.org]

Gilgul, Gilgulim and Reincarnation
[link to emol.org]

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makes sense ... are the days always 77 ?
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Loving hour posts HardTruth.

Have you read the Shopping For Spirit Articles?
[link to www.equilibrauk.com]

It talks about how the astral world is a false world, and isn't our true birth place. And how the "archons" rule over that world. Interesting articles.

More about the Archons:
[link to www.scribd.com]


Also Remarkable Healings by Dr. Modi talks about entity attachments, and how some people are born with entity attachments, which might explain why some children have imaginary friends they can only see. Also it can explain why so many people are two-faced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293354


Thanks, Links look interesting, I'll check them out!!

I know there's a lot that happens behind the scenes were just not allowed to know!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Yes or will be punishment for leaking much info!
Marcus 11: 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
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Loving hour posts HardTruth.

Have you read the Shopping For Spirit Articles?
[link to www.equilibrauk.com]

It talks about how the astral world is a false world, and isn't our true birth place. And how the "archons" rule over that world. Interesting articles.

More about the Archons:
[link to www.scribd.com]


Also Remarkable Healings by Dr. Modi talks about entity attachments, and how some people are born with entity attachments, which might explain why some children have imaginary friends they can only see. Also it can explain why so many people are two-faced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293354


Thanks, Links look interesting, I'll check them out!!

I know there's a lot that happens behind the scenes were just not allowed to know!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Yes or will be punishment for leaking much info!
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


Perhaps, But I don't agree with knowledge being withheld, and Earth is infamous for that very practice!!



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From The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi
Edited by David Godman

Question:Is reincarnation true?

Sri Ramana Maharshi: Reincarnation exists only so long as there is ignorance. There is really no reincarnation at all, either now or before. Nor will there be any hereafter. This is the truth.

[Note: Comments by David Godman: Most religions have constructed elaborate theories which purport to explain what happens to the individual soul after the death of the body. Some claim that the soul goes to heaven or hell while others claim that it is reincarnated in a new body.

Sri Ramana Maharshi taught that all such theories are based on the false assumption that the individual self or soul is real; once this illusion is seen through, the whole superstructure of after-life theories collapses. From the standpoint of the Self, there is no birth or death, no heaven or hell, and no reincarnation.

As a concession to those who were unable to assimilate the implications of this truth, Sri Ramana would sometimes admit that reincarnation existed. In replying to such people he would say that if one imagined that the individual self was real, then that imaginary self would persist after death and that eventually it would identify with a new body and a new life. The whole process, he said, is sustained by the tendency of the mind to identify itself with a body. Once the limiting illusion of mind is transcended, identification with the body ceases, and all theories about death and reincarnation are found to be inapplicable.
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Hebrews 9:27 And just as people are appointed to die once, and then to face judgment

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From The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi
Edited by David Godman

Question:Is reincarnation true?

Sri Ramana Maharshi: Reincarnation exists only so long as there is ignorance. There is really no reincarnation at all, either now or before. Nor will there be any hereafter. This is the truth.

[Note: Comments by David Godman: Most religions have constructed elaborate theories which purport to explain what happens to the individual soul after the death of the body. Some claim that the soul goes to heaven or hell while others claim that it is reincarnated in a new body.

Sri Ramana Maharshi taught that all such theories are based on the false assumption that the individual self or soul is real; once this illusion is seen through, the whole superstructure of after-life theories collapses. From the standpoint of the Self, there is no birth or death, no heaven or hell, and no reincarnation.

As a concession to those who were unable to assimilate the implications of this truth, Sri Ramana would sometimes admit that reincarnation existed. In replying to such people he would say that if one imagined that the individual self was real, then that imaginary self would persist after death and that eventually it would identify with a new body and a new life. The whole process, he said, is sustained by the tendency of the mind to identify itself with a body. Once the limiting illusion of mind is transcended, identification with the body ceases, and all theories about death and reincarnation are found to be inapplicable.
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I very seriously doubt all these first hand accounts on the matter, (unlike the christians texts) have been fabricated!!

Reincarnation Stories
[link to www.beyondreligion.com]

Near Death Experience Research Foundation
[link to www.nderf.org]

Gilgul, Gilgulim and Reincarnation
[link to emol.org]

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Re: Yes, Reincarnation is how it works on Earth!!
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Re: Yes, Reincarnation is how it works on Earth!!
There is no such thing as reincarnation. Jesus meant that Elias had come in the person of John the Baptist in that John fulfilled that purpose, not that he was reincarnated.
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Re: Yes, Reincarnation is how it works on Earth!!
And you really KNOW how it works ??

We are extremely ignorant as a species about the realities of life in this universe much less the spiritual realm.

You may think you know, or you may have faith, but believe me you don't have a clue.

Get ready for a big surprise.
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hmm. i remember the place before i was born. i remember other times. are ye trying to say i should pay no attention to my own experiences and just "trust" ye?
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Sorry I dont want to bring anybody down, these are just my take on the human species so take them with a grain of salt.

The mortal experience happens in our minds.
100% of it.
All of it.

Just because you think you remember an event pre birth or an event from yesterday does not mean it actually happened.
Studies have shown that humans can not tell the difference between reality and a false or suggested memory.

I have a friend that was schizophrenic that used to sit on a park bench and watch monsters walk by all day and he thought they were real too.

Were they actually there ??
I dont know. Maybe for him, but not for me or maybe I just could not tap into his sense of reality.

People just try to reduce truth in reality to a simple
formula and there is nothing simple about IMO.

Born Die born die born over and over again until you get it right ?? Maybe for some but not for everybody IMO. Boring anyway.

Got into a discussion with a friend about all of these physicist trying to define the laws of universe with mathematical formulas developed in the material world, but my question was if God is infinite and or the universe is infinite how can you solve the big riddle with a finite formula.

Yes I believe in Karma and I think you could be reincarnated, but I also think you could go to heaven or hell or maybe to a totally different reality that is so far from our comprehension we could not even discuss it here logically.

Us humans, our experience, our souls, the universe and the spirit of universal life is not black and white.
It has an infinite number of shades of gray, so I just dont think you can put our existence in a box and put a label it.

The 64 million dollar question everybody wants to know is why are we here, and that too IMO has a multitude of answers so deep we can not comprehend but a small part of it.

One thing I do believe is that as a species on this earth we are special, but we just dont know why yet.

More lately I am beginning to believe we create a large part of your own destiny/reality through faith.
If believe in reincarnation and you want to be reborn you will.
If you want to move on to heaven you will.
If you are inherently evil and pact with the devil and resign yourself to hell, well you will probably go there.

Unfortunately the human experience is so limited in understanding that we really only have our faith to rely on.
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ye could be right with all yer speculation. however, my experience is the only thing i can use. yer experience is all ye can use. i've no problem with that, but to call another wrong just because their experience is not the same is yers merely shows a lack of experience. so i could be imagining things, or insane, or any number of things - but there is no reason for me to believe yer experience makes ye any better a judge of what is than i am.
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It all comes down to faith in what you believe in and if that is strong enough to take you where you want to go.

Last Edited by Fishy6 on 03/14/2011 06:09 PM
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Re: Yes, Reincarnation is how it works on Earth!!
Hebrews 9:27 And just as people are appointed to die once, and then to face judgment

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the time has come when they will not accept sound doctrine and instead turn their itching ears to fables.

gnostic gospels like Thomas are not part of the canon

the other scriptures cited that are in the canon are twisted -- eisegeted to fit the preexisting false notions

why not just read what the Bible says instead of making stuff up, and twisting it to fit our own whack ideas

the Bible MUST be interpreted using induction -- it is a legal document. we cannot safely deduce anything from what it says

love rb
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Re: Yes, Reincarnation is how it works on Earth!!
What is it about one life that you guys aren't satisfied with?
Is it just an intellectual defense mechanism to keep you from doing, in the now, what it really is you what to do.

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