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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 867062  Canada03/15/2011 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Japan being hit by a level 6.0 quake now. These after shocks must be playing havoc with operations at the stricken nuke plants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297539I cannot believe that the already damaged equipment there is not further degraded in capability. It really hasnt stopped shaking since...almost constant |
SHR (OP)Forum Administrator  03/15/2011 10:06 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Two floors of bubbler pools beneath the reactor served as a large water reservoir from the emergency cooling pumps and as a pressure suppression system capable of condensing steam from a (small) broken steam pipe; the third floor above them, below the reactor, served as a steam tunnel. The steam released from a broken pipe was supposed to enter the steam tunnel and be led into the pools to bubble through a layer of water. The pools and the basement were flooded because of ruptured cooling water pipes and accumulated fire water. They now constituted a serious steam explosion risk. The smoldering graphite, fuel and other material above, at more than 1200 °C,[36] started to burn through the reactor floor and mixed with molten concrete that had lined the reactor, creating corium, a radioactive semi-liquid material comparable to lava.[35][37] If this mixture had melted through the floor into the pool of water, it would have created a massive steam explosion that would have ejected more radioactive material from the reactor. It became an immediate priority to drain the pool. Quoting: Snift!Sound like anything anyones seeing right now? Not really. Most importantly, there is no graphite. No solid graphite rods, but there is probably some present in the coating on the control "rods". ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 867062 Canada03/15/2011 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. WHY the hell didn't those fools helicopter in new diesel gensets when the damn other backup generators got full of seawater. Unbelievably stupid!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 456756Most likely because the installers would die before they could install them. Its really too late for that now anyway |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1296144 United States03/15/2011 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Japan being hit by a level 6.0 quake now. These after shocks must be playing havoc with operations at the stricken nuke plants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297539I cannot believe that the already damaged equipment there is not further degraded in capability. It really hasnt stopped shaking since...almost constant MAP 6.1 2011/03/15 13:31:46 35.322 138.552 1.0 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN 1km deep...? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1293082 United States03/15/2011 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Japan being hit by a level 6.0 quake now. These after shocks must be playing havoc with operations at the stricken nuke plants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297539I cannot believe that the already damaged equipment there is not further degraded in capability. It really hasnt stopped shaking since...almost constant MAP 6.1 2011/03/15 13:31:46 35.322 138.552 1.0 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN 1km deep...? I don't believe that number is correct. It said California m? before it changed to that lol. Listening to YokosoNews he is very concerned and said it was NOT an aftershock, it was different, and that they are having a press conference soon. He is not sure if same power of friday quake or not. Ema said fires had broke out somewhere, though idk where. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 456756 United States03/15/2011 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. WHY the hell didn't those fools helicopter in new diesel gensets when the damn other backup generators got full of seawater. Unbelievably stupid!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 456756Most likely because the installers would die before they could install them. Its really too late for that now anyway I agree with you that now is too late, but a window of opportunity presented its self before things got this drastic. Obviously, you would think they would of known they would need some sort of power source to keep the core cool? |
| NORMAL GUY User ID: 1293441  Spain03/15/2011 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Showing on ESMC as this 2011-03-15 13:31:47.042min ago 35.35 N 138.63 E 10 mb 6.2 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN 2011-03-15 14:10 2011-03-15 13:27:54.046min ago 37.60 N 142.31 E 2 mb 5.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Just updated to 6.2 it started as a 6.1 The most perfect place to be is... With your own thought,s on a silent mountain with the sun on your back, a breeze on your face and peace in your soul...... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 469144 United States03/15/2011 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Japan ( the entire country ) will be uninhabitable. Quoting: Truth Teller 1021320This is a worldwide level event. So obvious that the they are lying. They fucked up Only serious advanced tech can save the situation now. Will they use it? Do we really have it to use? Should I get that new supercharger on my new mustang or do I buy shit to survive with? Supercharger! Yes, Mad Max needs another sequel...  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297588  Australia03/15/2011 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. "Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297495With respect SHR. Got a up to date link? Kyodo has been trying to keep up...there's some coverage on every news outlet there is, just a matter of reading a lot of them and putting it together. Here's a few... [link to english.kyodonews.jp] Tepco initially came out with an explosion at reactor 4, but it seems now that was fire alone or possibly some minor explosion there and that reactor 2 has exploded and "highly likely" containment vessel was breached. [link to www.thejournal.ie] Since Friday, Japanese officials have often minimized the danger posed by the crippled nuclear reactors, which appear to be in various stages of melting down. That pattern was repeated after today’s explosion, as government spokesman, Noriyuki Shikata, told ABC News that despite increased radiation levels outside reactor #2, “at this juncture, the level is not judged to be immediately harmful to human bodies.” Earlier reports, however, asserted that the radioactive materials found outside of reactor #2 likely came from inside the containment vessel, most likely the result of damage to the vessel itself, either from the explosion or from the extreme heat released as the uncovered fuel rods began to melt down. Some workers have been evacuated from the Fukushima site. Those remaining are struggling to cover the fuel rods with water, using sea water and fire hoses, an ad hoc battle that seems less likely to succeed as each day goes by. [UPDATE: AP is reporting that Japan's nuclear safety agency "says it suspects the bottom of the container that surrounds the generator's nuclear core might have been damaged" and that "a leak of nuclear material is feared."] [link to blogs.forbes.com] SHR, doom is over. With respect, residual heat in the reactors is now stabilizing. MELTDOWN will NOT occur. It's over. DOOM will not transpire. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 456756 United States03/15/2011 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. I am afraid it is pretty hard to break this chain of accelerating horror.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 923740You are correct. It's like watching an unfolding train wreck happen in slow motion. And there isn't a thing you can do other than to prepare. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1293082 United States03/15/2011 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. SHR, doom is over. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297588With respect, residual heat in the reactors is now stabilizing. MELTDOWN will NOT occur. It's over. DOOM will not transpire. /facepalm |
| NORMAL GUY User ID: 1293441 Spain03/15/2011 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Assume the worst, and anything else is a bonus! Only thing I can think to say. The most perfect place to be is... With your own thought,s on a silent mountain with the sun on your back, a breeze on your face and peace in your soul...... |
| BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States03/15/2011 10:25 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Here is a nice video showing why nuke energy is clean and how it generally operates. Thought I'd share. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 643083Yeah, I'm convinced they are very safe, until, ya know they fuck up, melt down and kill the hell out of every living creature on God's green Earth... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.  |
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| Always Looking User ID: 1037013 United States03/15/2011 10:26 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. "Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297495With respect SHR. Got a up to date link? Kyodo has been trying to keep up...there's some coverage on every news outlet there is, just a matter of reading a lot of them and putting it together. Here's a few... [link to english.kyodonews.jp] Tepco initially came out with an explosion at reactor 4, but it seems now that was fire alone or possibly some minor explosion there and that reactor 2 has exploded and "highly likely" containment vessel was breached. [link to www.thejournal.ie] Since Friday, Japanese officials have often minimized the danger posed by the crippled nuclear reactors, which appear to be in various stages of melting down. That pattern was repeated after today’s explosion, as government spokesman, Noriyuki Shikata, told ABC News that despite increased radiation levels outside reactor #2, “at this juncture, the level is not judged to be immediately harmful to human bodies.” Earlier reports, however, asserted that the radioactive materials found outside of reactor #2 likely came from inside the containment vessel, most likely the result of damage to the vessel itself, either from the explosion or from the extreme heat released as the uncovered fuel rods began to melt down. Some workers have been evacuated from the Fukushima site. Those remaining are struggling to cover the fuel rods with water, using sea water and fire hoses, an ad hoc battle that seems less likely to succeed as each day goes by. [UPDATE: AP is reporting that Japan's nuclear safety agency "says it suspects the bottom of the container that surrounds the generator's nuclear core might have been damaged" and that "a leak of nuclear material is feared."] [link to blogs.forbes.com] SHR, doom is over. With respect, residual heat in the reactors is now stabilizing. MELTDOWN will NOT occur. It's over. DOOM will not transpire. And your source for this information is????? Truth and Facts - The two words liberals hate most! Suffering is burning emotional energy on the uncontrollable! The architect of the universe did not build a stairway to nowhere! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297622 United States03/15/2011 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. "Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297495With respect SHR. Got a up to date link? Kyodo has been trying to keep up...there's some coverage on every news outlet there is, just a matter of reading a lot of them and putting it together. Here's a few... [link to english.kyodonews.jp] Tepco initially came out with an explosion at reactor 4, but it seems now that was fire alone or possibly some minor explosion there and that reactor 2 has exploded and "highly likely" containment vessel was breached. [link to www.thejournal.ie] Since Friday, Japanese officials have often minimized the danger posed by the crippled nuclear reactors, which appear to be in various stages of melting down. That pattern was repeated after today’s explosion, as government spokesman, Noriyuki Shikata, told ABC News that despite increased radiation levels outside reactor #2, “at this juncture, the level is not judged to be immediately harmful to human bodies.” Earlier reports, however, asserted that the radioactive materials found outside of reactor #2 likely came from inside the containment vessel, most likely the result of damage to the vessel itself, either from the explosion or from the extreme heat released as the uncovered fuel rods began to melt down. Some workers have been evacuated from the Fukushima site. Those remaining are struggling to cover the fuel rods with water, using sea water and fire hoses, an ad hoc battle that seems less likely to succeed as each day goes by. [UPDATE: AP is reporting that Japan's nuclear safety agency "says it suspects the bottom of the container that surrounds the generator's nuclear core might have been damaged" and that "a leak of nuclear material is feared."] [link to blogs.forbes.com] SHR, doom is over.  With respect, residual heat in the reactors is now stabilizing. MELTDOWN will NOT occur. It's over. DOOM will not transpire. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295820 United States03/15/2011 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. can someone tell me what the heck is going on [link to www.ustream.tv] my connection is too shyte to keep up >.< |
| Preacherman User ID: 1297626 United States03/15/2011 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. [link to library.thinkquest.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 642285 United States03/15/2011 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357529 Within a few hours of this becoming public knowledge and accepted as fairly or mostly accurate (thanks SHR for an excellent summation of some of the worst doom to hit the planet - much less GLP - in many many years) Flights INTO Tokyo will be about as popular as a non-stop first class seat to hell! In fact they may become synonymous in very short order! I wonder how long it's going to take to organize massive airlifts of the injured and potentially exposed OUT of Japan. Let the Island sink. It's probably too late to do otherwise. But save, salvage, rescue the people that you can. There are millions of kids on that island who will die if they aren't not removed from the area within days. DAYS! Not weeks or months. Friggin' days is all we may have for a window of opportunity to cram as many onto boats, 747s and C5A's etc., and get them the hell out of there. To do otherwise at this point will have history recording a genocide of the Japanese people should we fail to implement such heroic measures to save those who are not as yet walking dead. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1224670 United States03/15/2011 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The Fukushima I nuclear accidents are a series of ongoing equipment failures and releases of radioactivity at the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, caused by the 11 March 2011 Sendai earthquake and tsunami. Reactors shut down automatically after the earthquake but the subsequent tsunami flooded the plant, knocking out emergency generators needed to maintain control of the reactors. Flooding and earthquake damage prevented assistance being brought from elsewhere. Other radiation releases occurred at the Fukushima II plant 11.5 kilometres (7.1 mi) to the south as workers attempted to stabilise the plant, but this is now reported to be at cold shutdown.[3] Pretty comprehensive wiki article on the continuing events. |
| Fucktard User ID: 1289963 United States03/15/2011 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. Please stop with the China Syndrome - first of all, the China Syndrome is a logical impossibility - it refers to meltdown burning through the Earth and making it to the other side (thus, China in reference to the US). What people here are referring to as the China Syndrome is more of a "partial" or "modified" China Syndrome - that is, meltdown burning into the ground and hitting water, thereby causing an explosion. But that isn't really the China Syndrome, so I don't know why people are using the term. Also, many people keep asking for a worst case scenario because we all want to know what is going to happen. The real answer to that question - "What is going to happen?" - is, quite simply, we don't know. Worst case? Absolute worse case? Use your imagination. Nuclear winter, 90+% of the world's population dies within 10 years. But the chances of that? Very, very slim. More likely we're going to see some degree of massive devastation for Japan, and moderate-to-major radiation problems for the rest of the Northern Hemisphere, maybe the world. What that means, again, who the fuck knows? What I'm wondering is at what point does China and/or the US take matters into their hands, and what that would mean. In other words, at what point does it save non-Japanese lives to drop a nuclear bomb on Fukushima (or does it at all). A terrible, terrible question to ask, but I'm sure governments (including the Japanese) are asking it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297588 Australia03/15/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. "Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297495With respect SHR. Got a up to date link? Kyodo has been trying to keep up...there's some coverage on every news outlet there is, just a matter of reading a lot of them and putting it together. Here's a few... [link to english.kyodonews.jp] Tepco initially came out with an explosion at reactor 4, but it seems now that was fire alone or possibly some minor explosion there and that reactor 2 has exploded and "highly likely" containment vessel was breached. [link to www.thejournal.ie] Since Friday, Japanese officials have often minimized the danger posed by the crippled nuclear reactors, which appear to be in various stages of melting down. That pattern was repeated after today’s explosion, as government spokesman, Noriyuki Shikata, told ABC News that despite increased radiation levels outside reactor #2, “at this juncture, the level is not judged to be immediately harmful to human bodies.” Earlier reports, however, asserted that the radioactive materials found outside of reactor #2 likely came from inside the containment vessel, most likely the result of damage to the vessel itself, either from the explosion or from the extreme heat released as the uncovered fuel rods began to melt down. Some workers have been evacuated from the Fukushima site. Those remaining are struggling to cover the fuel rods with water, using sea water and fire hoses, an ad hoc battle that seems less likely to succeed as each day goes by. [UPDATE: AP is reporting that Japan's nuclear safety agency "says it suspects the bottom of the container that surrounds the generator's nuclear core might have been damaged" and that "a leak of nuclear material is feared."] [link to blogs.forbes.com] SHR, doom is over. With respect, residual heat in the reactors is now stabilizing. MELTDOWN will NOT occur. It's over. DOOM will not transpire. And your source for this information is????? How many hours have since transpired since the shutdown. Residual heat is the reactors is NOW mute. Bookmark it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1224670 United States03/15/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. There are millions of kids on that island who will die if they aren't not removed from the area within days. DAYS! Not weeks or months. Friggin' days is all we may have for a window of opportunity to cram as many onto boats, 747s and C5A's etc., and get them the hell out of there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 642285To do otherwise at this point will have history recording a genocide of the Japanese people should we fail to implement such heroic measures to save those who are not as yet walking dead. yes! SAVE THE KIDS!  |
| NORMAL GUY User ID: 1293441 Spain03/15/2011 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. can someone tell me what the heck is going on [link to www.ustream.tv] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295820my connection is too shyte to keep up >.< New quake in Tokai near tokyo and where that other nuke plant is 6.0. The most perfect place to be is... With your own thought,s on a silent mountain with the sun on your back, a breeze on your face and peace in your soul...... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1293082 United States03/15/2011 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Japan's reactor explosions, spent fuel rod pools over heating...all bad news. Reported now as 2 explosions, 4 total. How many hours have since transpired since the shutdown. Residual heat is the reactors is NOW mute. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297588Bookmark it. Always trust the guy who doesn't know the difference between moot and mute lawl. If decay heat was a non-factor in hours, the spent fuel pool wouldn't exist. Why is it that the spent fuel pool in #4 is now boiling (because no circulation of water now) then if the heat is no problem even though they are likely a year old rods?? Guy is a troll. |
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