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Rapture Imminent! As World EVENTS Unfold!

 
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The Church; those who worship
in spirit and truth are God's Chosen people.

The believer is The Apple of God's Eye.
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REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
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The Church; those who worship
in spirit and truth are God's Chosen people.

The believer is The Apple of God's Eye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 311438

REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
 Quoting: S'gan-Levi


What's the label for? Christ is the King of Israel, yes? How can someone be Israel wthout loyalty to its King?
"He is not a Jew who is one outwardly, but inwardly, by the circumcision of the heart".
Abraham's heirs are identified by their faith, not by their bloodline or customs or anything else.
Anyone who doesn't currently follow Christ is welcome to sign on and be grafted in and begin growing towards producing the fruit of the spirit.
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The Church; those who worship
in spirit and truth are God's Chosen people.

The believer is The Apple of God's Eye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 311438

REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
 Quoting: S'gan-Levi


What's the label for? Christ is the King of Israel, yes? How can someone be Israel wthout loyalty to its King?
"He is not a Jew who is one outwardly, but inwardly, by the circumcision of the heart".
Abraham's heirs are identified by their faith, not by their bloodline or customs or anything else.
Anyone who doesn't currently follow Christ is welcome to sign on and be grafted in and begin growing towards producing the fruit of the spirit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283578

Read Romans 11.
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
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There is no debate that 1 Thessalonians 4, and 1 Corinthians 15 teach on the rapture. Both chapters also teach the resurrection and of the trumpet blast. Neither chapter mentions anything about having to endure the tribulation before the rapture comes. There is no debate that Revelation 19 and Zechariah 14 teach on the physical return of the Lord Jesus Christ in power after the tribulation. Neither of those chapters speak of the rapture, nor of a resurrection, nor of a trumpet blast.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thess 4:18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

[caught up=HARPAZO=Rapture]

1 Thess 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1 Thess 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
1 Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

AS THE WORLD WITNESSED ON 3/11/11 BIRTH PANGS ARE INCREASING!

CORRELATING- REVELATION 3:11

I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one may rob you and deprive you of your crown.

MORE EVENTS TO COME... (TIME IS RUNNING OUT)

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The Church; those who worship
in spirit and truth are God's Chosen people.

The believer is The Apple of God's Eye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 311438

REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
 Quoting: S'gan-Levi


What's the label for? Christ is the King of Israel, yes? How can someone be Israel wthout loyalty to its King?
"He is not a Jew who is one outwardly, but inwardly, by the circumcision of the heart".
Abraham's heirs are identified by their faith, not by their bloodline or customs or anything else.
Anyone who doesn't currently follow Christ is welcome to sign on and be grafted in and begin growing towards producing the fruit of the spirit.
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Read Romans 11.
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(Should I skip verse 23?)
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Have Joy For Heaven!

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The ONLY thing I understand from MANY years experience with you lot..is you are FULL of yourselves..hear ONLY what you WANT to hear..and you know ONLY WHAT YOU HEARD...

Here is MY take on the gospel..and the TRUTH...

I remember reading in there somewhere where Jesus was having trouble with the puffed up pharisees..who JUST like todays modern so called "Christians"..were giving him a hard time over nitpicky doctrinal points..and he said to them..something like..

The drunkards and the prostitutes and the tax men swindlers will get into the kingdom before you.

From what I can ascertain from it..its the ORDINARY "Sinners" who Jesus was referring to who would be more WORTHY of the kingdom then the pharisitical religious ones of the day.

I suppose its because its better to be an HONEST sinner than a DISHONEST lying saint in the end.

And he said something about not being decieved by smooth words and teachings that sound all comfy cozy..that those who preach easy listening doctrines were decievers.

Well..I could not think of a more evil and insidious doctrine than the pre trib rap get out of trouble FREE doctrine..that and the PROSPERITY "BLESS ME" Doctrine...and its OH so COMFY COSY..promising them a getaway from hurting their little pinkies. Jesus also made it clear that you have to ENDURE to the end..how heck is getting a free ride to heaven while everyone else BURNS....ENDURING??


DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.


I just get SICK to DEATH of the same LIES...YEAR AFTER YEAR...the same pack of easy listening LIES LIES LIES..and their ATTITUTE to everyone else..INCLUDING their own "BROTHERS" who dont believe the NEW AGE illumunati LIES they have been PROGRAMMED with ..the way they treat others with is just PATHETIC.

Its no WONDER people want to vomit at ALL christians these days..JUST because of the FEW..the PRE TRIB RAP AND PROSPERITY drones..giving the REAL christians..the ones who DO have LOVE and COMPASSION and HUMILITY and MOST of all.. COURAGE..a rotten name. AS a result..VERY few want to have anything to DO with it..including ME...cause it makes me SICK.

GoD will save according to whats on the heart..ACCORDING to the bible..JESUS own words..yep..he SAID it...

Something about sheep and goats...one lot GAVE a toss about others...and another lot DID NOT..

It said NOTHING about "Did you say a prayer and accept Jesus into you heart"..THAT rubbish aint even IN the Bible..id LOVE to know where they got the "Sinners prayer" GARBAGE from..cause it just aint IN there.

NO..from what JESUS himself actually SAID...its sheep..or its GOATS..right?..and WHAT was the DIFFERENCE between these sheep and goats??

ON the surface..NO difference..BOTH lots claimed "Salvation"..BOTH KNEW Jesus....or claimed to..and BOTH used his name..and did miracles..and this and that IN Jesus name..

BOTH were "CHRISTIANS"..its CLEAR as a bell..BOTH were CLEARLY CHRISTIANS..so WHY were ONE lot sheep..and the OTHER lot GOATS?????

BECAUSE..ONE lot was UNSELFISH..CARING..VISITED POOR DUDES IN PRISON..CLOTHED THE NAKED...GAVE TO THE POOR AND NEEDY..AND ASKED NOTHING IN RETURN..they were HUMBLE..and POLITE and full of LOVE.

The GOATS..SAID all the "RIGHT" words...they SPOKE the LINGO..but they just DID NOT GIVE a FLYING @&^$ about ANYONE but themselves. They spent their time debating and arguing and BEING WRONG..YEAR AFTER YEAR..and they did NOT feed anyone..or do any GOOD for anyone..they just DID NOT CARE about ANYone but THEMSELVES...

And if these goats DID do something..cause they all said something like "But Lord..we did many miracles in your name..and cast out demons and stuff..AD NAUSEUM.."They did it FOR SELFISH GAIN..to be NOTICED....or to make LOTS OF MONEY from MOVIES and BOOKS and NEW AGE GARBAGE like the "LEFT BEHIND" series which made MILLIONS..while the poor and the needy STARVED AND DIED!..they have ZERO Love..ZERO humility..and STUFF ALL COURAGE...they IGNORE the POOR..live in multi million dollar MANSIONS.

While SO many are STARVING..NEW AGE WOLVES like COPELAND and HINN and DUPLANTIS and that DOLLAR viper..live like KINGS on the MONEY they BILKED AND CONNED out of the "NEW AGE SHEEP....who followed so BLINDLY that lakeland CRAP which was the EPITOME of UTTER HIPOCRISY...

What does Jesus say to these NEW AGE "BELIEVERS" EH???

DEPART from me ye WORKERS of utter GARBAGE AND LIES....cause I NEVER KNEW YOU...

Gonna be a REAL shock to these VIPERS aint it????

Jesus said something about VOMITING these greedy self serving creatures out of his mouth.

Week after week you turn up..hand over all your money for new seats and screens and better air con..while the poor and the hungry just down the road STARVE!!!

While the fat assed pastor..fat gutted and lazy..preaches about FASTING??...and MORE money..and MORE money..for the never ending BUILDING program that all churches seem to have.

STUFF the poor..WHO CARES about the needy..and TOUGH LUCK for the people of the world..cause they are all gonna BURN right??

ALL YOU have to do is keep turning up with wallet OPEN..and BRAIN disengaged..to feed the never ending circle of NEW AGE EASY LISTENING FLESH PLEASING GARBAGE..GIVE to get...get PISSED on the holy spirit..ALWAYS about FEELING GOOD..SELF SELF SELF..always thinking of your SELF!!!

YOU lot ONLY care about what YOU can get..you dont give a flying *#$% about the hurting,,the needy...the downtrodden..you FLY IN THE FACE OF EVERYTHING JESUS EVER TAUGHT!!!

IN the name of MONEY!!!

MONEY and FEELINGS is your GOD!!!!

"BUt but..we give money to the poor"....you might say..

WHAT OF IT??

YOU DO it ONLY to win a few more BROWNIE POINTS...you DONT do it cause you really CARE!!!!..you do it ONLY so you have a better chance of being raptured..or getting some reward..or feeling better..or being blessed more..

YOU DONT CARE!!!...and when you DO..its all a NEW AGE FEEL GOOD "BLESS ME BLESS ME" SHOW!!

You have turned the TRUTH into a way to FEEL GOOD..ESCAPE DOOM..and MAKE MONEY..and GET BLESSED!!!

YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING EXCEPT what you WANT to hear..and you KNOW ONLY WHAT YOU HEARD!!

YOU WILL ignore everything I am saying now FOR THIS REASON!!

You will READ this...and say "THATS NOT ME..I DONT DO THAT!!

Well...every time you walk into a church and open your wallet up..

YOU DO!!


YOU FEED THE MACHINE..the money making machine..IDOLATRY!!!!


WHEN will your new age easy rod zero suffering fat lazy so called christians realise its NOT A GAME!!!

ITS NOT a "BLESS ME FEEL GOOD CLUB"

But thats how its TREATED.

I went to these churches,,all over the world..for the last 40 years..ive seen em all slide into HELL..thinking they are OH so HOLY..and going to heaven.

WHAT JOKE its become...

And you will EXCUSE this with..

"WE ARE NOT PERFECT..JUST FORGIVEN"

WHAT a lot of GARBAGE,,a SELF justifying concience excusing load of UTTER CRAP!!


THEN....if you keep following along the same lines as the modern christian..the following rant will APPLY TO YOU TOO..wont that be great??...(Ill actually use SCRIPTURE to back this up..the words of JESUS HIMSELF...which MOST of them TOTALLY DISREGARD..cause they like to do their OWN thing WAY too much...

If you are so holy..then WHY are you promoting the ILLUMINATI RUN AND OWNED CHURCHES whom THIS VERY telling and TRUE rebuke was ALL ABOUT??


MATTHEW 23
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Yeah..you lot LOVE to preach a whole lot of HIPOCRITICAL CONDEMING SOUL TEARING MIND NUMBING CRAP which turns people AWAY from the TRUE way...with smooth deceptive words and well worded sermons designed to feed your WALLETS..and make MILLIONS from your LIES of TWISTED SCRIPYURE(The left behind movies and books)....but tell me this you evil stains on the name of jesus...

WHY wont You do what he SAYS..YOU wont enter in YOURSELVES..and by your UTTERLY ABOMINABLE BEHAVIOUR AND EXAMPLE...no one ELSE wants to either because they LOOK at YOU pathetic easy living cowardly liars and think..RIGHTLY SO..that CHRISTIANS are NOTHING BUT A PACK OF ARGUING SELF CENTERED GREEDY ADULTEROUS LYING HYPOCRITES


14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Yeah..ya just LOVE the OH SO HOLY prayers..babbling away in tongues and blaspheming the holy spirit with your UTTER ABOMINATIONS(Getting PISSED on the holy spirit)..THIS according to YOUR BIBLE is what you do..USING something HOLY to make MONEY..is BLASHEMY..and using the holy spirit to promote your MONEY MAKING LIES is BLASPHEMY agist the HOLY SPIRIT...ACCORDING to your OWN BIBLE...you DO feed on widows houses..you rake in offerings year after year..from old widows who are too weak to resist the SNARES you set..SHAME on you you pathetic LIFE destroying VIPERS!!


But wait,,,there is MORE.....

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Yeah..ya do this too..seeking ever more victims...who start out as ordinary people...you prey on their fear..their terror..with stories of DOOM and HELLFIRE..you convert them..and then turn THEM TOO..into the SAME brand of UTTER HIPOCRITES AS YOU!!!

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.


Yeah,,ya LOVE to rake ya tithes in dont ya??..you ONLY pay it to get BLESSED..its all based on GREED and SELFISHNESS.IF you really GAVE a toss about anyone but yourselves..you would GIVE that money to the POOR and the HUNGRY..BUT NO..ya give it to these SWINDLERS to put new STAGES and SCREENS in their churches..to buy in the latest christian ROCK BAND..so you can ACT just like the WORLD you always CONDEMN....



BUT the list of your SHAME goes ON..(I could write a BOOK on your long trail of HIPOCRISY..)

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Yeah..ya LOVE to turn up to church..all spiffy looking..all smiles...but within its all pure HELL..as you battle with the FACADE..hoping the REAL human you are deep inside does not SHOW..as you battle with LUST and ANGER..and HATE..and all the while jealousy and envy grows..and greed..and slander....while church after church falls apart as minister after minister is caught YET again with their cock frimly planted in the vagina of a woman who is NOT THEIRS...HINN..SWAGGART..all of em..BENTLY..what a total FARCE you vipers are...and you know what????ONE common DENOMINATOR among all of these CHARLATANS???.....MONEY MONEY GREED AND MORE MONEY..and ADULTERY

BUT the list goes ON.....

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Ya look all clean..but inside you are DIRTY LUSTFUL COWARDLY SELFISH VIPERS.
And THIS according to YOUR BIBLE..is WHAT Jesus is gonna DO to LIARS LIKE YOU....


51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the HYPOCRITES: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

HOpe ya got a good dental plan and LOTS of sunblock handy....

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the LAKE which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Let me break this down a bit for ya so you heartless vipers can FINALLY understand it eh??


8 But the fearful,

(YEP..thats you NEW AGE CHRISTIAN RAPTURE/PROSPERITY BLESS ME BLESS ME TARDS..always AFRAID and wanting to get OUTTA here while everyone else BURNS

and unbelieving,

(Yep..thats you lot TOO..cause if you actually BELIEVED the bible like you SAY you do..ya would NOT be such a bunch of loveless lying hipocritical money and good times worshipping LIARS)

and the abominable,

(Yes..thats you lot too..your behaviour towards your brothers and the rest of the world is just ABOMINABLE!...an ABOMINATION!!

and murderers,

(HOW many widows have died in their homes..MURDERED by their lack of funds for more medicine because YOU lot conned them out of their money??..or told sick people to STOP taking their medicine because if they did nOT they lacked FAITH and God would not heal them..PURE rubbish and LIES..you are WORSE than JWS refusing blood to the dying)

and whoremongers,

(Yep..how many of you secretly sleep around..or lust after women or men in your heart?..whoreing after flesh or money..or gain...or a wonderful FEELING in some drummed up atmosphere "Worship" meeting?..THIS is what it means..a deep endless lusting to GRATIFY yourselves..to CONSTANTLY AND UNENDINGLY PLEASE YOURSELVES!)

and sorcerers,

(AHH yes..the MAIN one that the pastors of these illuminati NEW AGE CON artists love..sorcery..beguiling with words..using the "Anointing" like a drug..when its ALL just a manufactured atmosphere with loud ponding drum beats in a VERY worldly concert hall setting brought about to BEWITCH and SWINDLE and HYPNOTISE..and THIS is what it means)

and idolaters,

(Idolatry..the modern churches FAVOURITE passtime..they worship WORSHIP itself..and FEELINGS..and PEOPLE..and MONEY..and BOOKS..and MOVIES..seems they idolise ANYTHING..but GOD..what a bunchh of UTTER AND TOTAL LIARS)

and all liars,shall have their part in the LAKE which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

SELF explainatory is it NOT?)

8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Need I say more???



Well..yes in fact...lets deal with this ENDLESS date setting..this NEED to run away all the time..this SALIVATING over DOOM because it means..to YOU...escape...

Here are ALL the previous rapture dates ect...

In each an EVERY case they had mathematic..gemmatria..bible verses..conjecture..guesswork..and a WHOLE LOT OF UTTER TARDNESS to back em up..and in EACH and EVERY CASE...they were WRONG..and always WILL be.

2010 FAILS

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2009 FAILS

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2008 FAILS

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2007 FAILS

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2006 FAILS

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2005 FAILS

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2004 FAILS

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And THIS is the type of chritian who MAKES all these dates and other garbage..years of endless debates...sefl righteous puff uppery...THIS is how you become one...

THE MEGA CHURCH PRE TRIB CHRISTIAN..

and DONT say its garbage..I WAS one..FOR 30 YEARS>..till I WOKE UP...was like waking from a NIGHTMARE!

1)First ya have to say a sinners prayer.

2)Then you have to go to church three times a week(At least)..each time giving ten percent of whats in your wallet to the fat dude up the front who drives luxury cars and lives in a mansion.

3)Then you have to learn to hate everyone else thats NOT a fundie seeing them as doomed and not worth your trouble to love or help or feed..as ALL your time and money gets dedicated to the fat greedy pastor up the front..

4)After a while you have to learn to HATE all other fundies or denominations with a PASSION and see THEM as wrong and DOOMED as well..if they so much as disagree with your denominations view on what day to worship..or what to eat..or the rapture debate..or even if adam had a belly button. (Ive seen churches coime apart over this..seriously)

5)You also must LOOK like the world...dress like the world..act like the world...set your church up to look like a rock concert hall..and fornicate and divorce and sleep around with all the women in the church..all the while condemning others of the world who do this. In short..you have to be as CLOSE as possible to what the world IS..but EXCUSE all your "Sins" with the "Im not perfect..just forgiven CRAP"

After doing all of this..THEN..you just might..according to THEM..be worthy of heaven.

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2 Thessalonians 2
1BUT RELATIVE to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) and our gathering together to [meet] Him, we beg you, brethren,

2Not to allow your minds to be quickly unsettled or disturbed or kept excited or alarmed, whether it be by some [pretended] revelation of [the] Spirit or by word or by letter [alleged to be] from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has [already] arrived and is here.

3Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the [a]apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition),(A)

4Who opposes and exalts himself so proudly and insolently against and over all that is called God or that is worshiped, [even to his actually] taking his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.(B)

5Do you not recollect that when I was still with you, I told you these things?

6And now you know what is restraining him [from being revealed at this time]; it is so that he may be manifested (revealed) in his own [appointed] time.

7For the mystery of lawlessness (that hidden principle of rebellion against constituted authority) is already at work in the world, [but it is] restrained only until [c]he who restrains is taken out of the way.

8And then the lawless one (the antichrist) will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of His mouth and bring him to an end by His appearing at His coming.(C)

9The coming [of the lawless one, the antichrist] is through the activity and working of Satan and will be attended by great power and with all sorts of [pretended] miracles and signs and delusive marvels--[all of them] lying wonders--

10And by unlimited seduction to evil and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing (going to perdition) because they did not welcome the Truth but refused to love it that they might be saved.

11Therefore God sends upon them a misleading influence, a working of error and a strong delusion to make them believe what is false,

12In order that all may be judged and condemned who did not believe in [who refused to adhere to, trust in, and rely on] the Truth, but [instead] took pleasure in unrighteousness.
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2 Thessalonians 2
1BUT RELATIVE to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) and our gathering together to [meet] Him, we beg you, brethren,

2Not to allow your minds to be quickly unsettled or disturbed or kept excited or alarmed, whether it be by some [pretended] revelation of [the] Spirit or by word or by letter [alleged to be] from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has [already] arrived and is here.

3Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the [a]apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition),(A)

4Who opposes and exalts himself so proudly and insolently against and over all that is called God or that is worshiped, [even to his actually] taking his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.(B)

5Do you not recollect that when I was still with you, I told you these things?

6And now you know what is restraining him [from being revealed at this time]; it is so that he may be manifested (revealed) in his own [appointed] time.

7For the mystery of lawlessness (that hidden principle of rebellion against constituted authority) is already at work in the world, [but it is] restrained only until [c]he who restrains is taken out of the way.

8And then the lawless one (the antichrist) will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of His mouth and bring him to an end by His appearing at His coming.(C)

9The coming [of the lawless one, the antichrist] is through the activity and working of Satan and will be attended by great power and with all sorts of [pretended] miracles and signs and delusive marvels--[all of them] lying wonders--

10And by unlimited seduction to evil and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing (going to perdition) because they did not welcome the Truth but refused to love it that they might be saved.

11Therefore God sends upon them a misleading influence, a working of error and a strong delusion to make them believe what is false,

12In order that all may be judged and condemned who did not believe in [who refused to adhere to, trust in, and rely on] the Truth, but [instead] took pleasure in unrighteousness.
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There is no debate that 1 Thessalonians 4, and 1 Corinthians 15 teach on the rapture. Both chapters also teach the resurrection and of the trumpet blast. Neither chapter mentions anything about having to endure the tribulation before the rapture comes. There is no debate that Revelation 19 and Zechariah 14 teach on the physical return of the Lord Jesus Christ in power after the tribulation. Neither of those chapters speak of the rapture, nor of a resurrection, nor of a trumpet blast.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thess 4:18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

[caught up=HARPAZO=Rapture]

1 Thess 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1 Thess 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
1 Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

AS THE WORLD WITNESSED ON 3/11/11 BIRTH PANGS ARE INCREASING!

CORRELATING- REVELATION 3:11

I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one may rob you and deprive you of your crown.

MORE EVENTS TO COME... (TIME IS RUNNING OUT)

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You are full of shit. What a waste of a very good mind. Christianity can turn great minds that could help the living into mush that worships death and heaven. He acts as if living on earth is shitty. I guess it is what you make it, but this OP is nuts. He will say I'm the devil, but I don't care.. I now ask, Devil, give me a beer and get me away from this guy, burning in hell can't be worse. What idiot spends his whole living life doing what you are doing? Your wrong. I know it. Chimps have the same DNA as humans minus just a few. We are dumb chimps, not at all a product of a GOD. Make your short life on Earth as good as you can make it, take care of your kids and love your neighbor and try to be happy,,,Thats it.
Romney has a Swiss bank account and you have a double-wide. The American Dream! Vote for You Dummy!
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I*m pissed off now. What are your credentials in theology? Ever graduate high school?
Romney has a Swiss bank account and you have a double-wide. The American Dream! Vote for You Dummy!
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I*m pissed off now. What are your credentials in theology? Ever graduate high school?
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The Holy Spirit is The Teacher!

Mar 1:7-8 … “Someone is coming soon who is greater than I am–so much greater that I’m not even worthy to stoop down like a slave and untie the straps of His sandals. (8) I baptize you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit!”


Joh 14:12 “I tell you the truth, anyone who believes in Me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father.

It is because He knew the Holy Spirit would be sent and that He would empower us to have the same kind of ministry Jesus had. This is the goal of the believer, is it not?

On the day of Pentecost Peter declared the prophesy of Joel fulfilled.

Act 2: (17) ‘In the last days,’ God says, ‘I will pour out My Spirit upon all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams. (18) In those days I will pour out My Spirit even on My servants–men and women alike–and they will prophesy.
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There is no debate that 1 Thessalonians 4, and 1 Corinthians 15 teach on the rapture. Both chapters also teach the resurrection and of the trumpet blast. Neither chapter mentions anything about having to endure the tribulation before the rapture comes.

Fallacy of arguing from silence. IE. Just because it isn't mentioned in no way precludes it from occurring.

There is no debate that Revelation 19 and Zechariah 14 teach on the physical return of the Lord Jesus Christ in power after the tribulation. Neither of those chapters speak of the rapture, nor of a resurrection, nor of a trumpet blast.

Again, arguing from silence.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:

Conclusive premise - 1 Thes. 4 - the dead (resurrection) shall occur before the living rise (rapture) which you have just shown (Rev. 19) occurs AFTER the tribulation.

[caught up=HARPAZO=Rapture]


1 Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Juxtaposition is God's wrath to salvation in Jesus Christ. The wrath spoken of is spiritual, not physical escape - IE. spiritual salvation saves from eternal damnation.


You have violated simple rules of logic by arguing from silence, and in doing so have inadvertently used verses which conclusively disprove your conclusion.

Premise stated: There can be no rapture prior to the resurrection.
Premise stated: The resurrection occurs at the last trump.
Logical deduction: Rapture must occur at last trump after resurrection.
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REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
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What's the label for? Christ is the King of Israel, yes? How can someone be Israel wthout loyalty to its King?
"He is not a Jew who is one outwardly, but inwardly, by the circumcision of the heart".
Abraham's heirs are identified by their faith, not by their bloodline or customs or anything else.
Anyone who doesn't currently follow Christ is welcome to sign on and be grafted in and begin growing towards producing the fruit of the spirit.
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Read Romans 11.
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(Should I skip verse 23?)
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God guarentees it for ALL ISRAEL. Read Zech. 12:10. He makes no such promice to the Gentile.
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
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There is no debate that 1 Thessalonians 4, and 1 Corinthians 15 teach on the rapture. Both chapters also teach the resurrection and of the trumpet blast. Neither chapter mentions anything about having to endure the tribulation before the rapture comes.

Fallacy of arguing from silence. IE. Just because it isn't mentioned in no way precludes it from occurring.

There is no debate that Revelation 19 and Zechariah 14 teach on the physical return of the Lord Jesus Christ in power after the tribulation. Neither of those chapters speak of the rapture, nor of a resurrection, nor of a trumpet blast.

Again, arguing from silence.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:

Conclusive premise - 1 Thes. 4 - the dead (resurrection) shall occur before the living rise (rapture) which you have just shown (Rev. 19) occurs AFTER the tribulation.

[caught up=HARPAZO=Rapture]


1 Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Juxtaposition is God's wrath to salvation in Jesus Christ. The wrath spoken of is spiritual, not physical escape - IE. spiritual salvation saves from eternal damnation.


You have violated simple rules of logic by arguing from silence, and in doing so have inadvertently used verses which conclusively disprove your conclusion.

Premise stated: There can be no rapture prior to the


Jesus did say, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh" (Matthew 24:44). The only time frame I can think of when we believers would not be expecting Jesus to return would have to be before the tribulation.

Pre-wrath proponents say that the Seventh Trumpet blown in Rev 11:15-18 is the same last trump Paul spoke of in 1 Cor 15:52. However, they fail to take into account the fact that John wrote Revelation 40 years after Paul wrote his first epistle to the Corinthians. How could Paul refer to something that was not yet revealed?

Post-tribbers use a trumpet sounding in Joel 2:1 as evidence for a post-trib rapture on the Day of the Lord. I have three problems with Joel 2:1:

1. Joel clearly says that the purpose for blowing the trumpet is to "sound an alarm."

2. According to 1 Cor 15:52, the rapture is something that occurs in the twinkling of an eye. Joel 2:1 says the Day of the Lord is nigh at hand. In order for Joel's trumpet to be the same one in 1 Cor. there would have to be a time delay between the sounding of the trumpet and the rapture of the Church.

3. The fact that there is another trumpet being sounded in Joel 2:15 further clouds the possibility that these trumpets could have anything to do with the rapture.
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All Israel surely will be saved, but WHO is Israel?

Is it not the remnant that believes in God's Son, Jesus Christ?

Who else has been Israel?

For do you not understand yet that the CHURCH has been grafted into ISRAEL and ALL believers have become the Kingdome of God?

So indeed it is true that ALL ISRAEL will be saved.
But ISRAEL is the BELIEVING REMNANT.

They will indeed be saved.
Those that believe and have put their Faith and Trust,

IN JESUS CHRIST!

God Bless!!!
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The RAPTURE is real.

Let ye who wait for the bridegroom do not fall asleep for what happened to those of the 10 virgins that did?

They were left behind.
Take heed and fill your lamp with oil, let yourself be filled with the Word of God and the Holy Spirit manifest in you!

For surely the Lord comes quickly!

In Jesus Christ!
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I*m pissed off now. What are your credentials in theology? Ever graduate high school?
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The Holy Spirit is The Teacher!

Mar 1:7-8 … “Someone is coming soon who is greater than I am–so much greater that I’m not even worthy to stoop down like a slave and untie the straps of His sandals. (8) I baptize you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit!”


Joh 14:12 “I tell you the truth, anyone who believes in Me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father.

It is because He knew the Holy Spirit would be sent and that He would empower us to have the same kind of ministry Jesus had. This is the goal of the believer, is it not?

On the day of Pentecost Peter declared the prophesy of Joel fulfilled.

Act 2: (17) ‘In the last days,’ God says, ‘I will pour out My Spirit upon all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams. (18) In those days I will pour out My Spirit even on My servants–men and women alike–and they will prophesy.
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Very interestingly and accurately that you have chosen Acts 2 as described by Peter to have been fulfilled on Pentecost. Note the first 4 words of verse 17 and you will be on an entirely new road of spiritual insight.

Peter was saying that those were the prophesied 'last days'. Last days of what? What did the disciples ask Jesus to tell them about when He spoke of the temples destruction? The end of the age. Research the Greek word for 'age'. It did not mean the end of the world. It meant the end of the 'era' - the end of the Law and the Prophets who were, according to Jesus, until John (the Baptist). Jesus said He came to fulfill them and that not one 'jot/tittle' would pass until he had fulfilled them all.

The era of an earthly kingdom ended with God's divorce of Judah and the destruction of the earthly temple. He wept over Jerusalem because she was worse than Sodom and Egypt - much worse than the 10 northern tribes of the house of Israel whom He said he had come to gather the lost sheep of. The Law and the prophets (all O.T.) were fulfilled in Christ and ended with John and the coming of 'God with us'.

Those were the last days Joel and many of the other OT prophets predicted. Even John in Rev. says 'shall soon come to pass.'

Interesting also... Note the rest of Joels prophecy described in Acts as having been fulfilled

16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:


Is it possible that the Hebrew colloquialism used does not refer to the literal sun and moon taught by modern churches? Remember Joseph's dream. His mother and father were the sun and moon. His brothers were the stars.

Who should fall at Christ's coming? The sun (Jacob/Israel), his wife (moon) and the stars (tribes). Ie. Jesus came to make it clear that the 'chosen' are NOT of the flesh, but of the spirit.

Today, those who call themselves Jews in the flesh are specifically mentioned in the book of Rev. They are the children of this world -racist liars. Their father is the flesh (Satan) and his work they now do.
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you are the 1,232nd person to claim that since Christ died.
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The RAPTURE is real.

<snip>

In Jesus Christ!
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IMO the rapture is a crock of shit that is not Christian Canon but rather stems from a fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible. Give three different people that book to read and it is guaranteed you'll get three different interpretations of it. That is what has happened here.

Not dissing the God-Botherers here at all - in fact, so long as they don't start thinking it's good and just to start killing in the name of Jesus, they are A-OK in my book. Anytime you get the urge to punish sinners, just remember this simple question - "What Would Jesus Do?" Satan is devious and can make you do things unknowingly. Wouldn't want you to be cast into fiery damnation because you were picking up the wrong signals. See the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition for further information.

Peace.
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All Israel surely will be saved, but WHO is Israel?

Is it not the remnant that believes in God's Son, Jesus Christ?

Who else has been Israel?

For do you not understand yet that the CHURCH has been grafted into ISRAEL and ALL believers have become the Kingdome of God?

So indeed it is true that ALL ISRAEL will be saved.
But ISRAEL is the BELIEVING REMNANT.

They will indeed be saved.
Those that believe and have put their Faith and Trust,

IN JESUS CHRIST!

God Bless!!!
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With this spiritual axiom firmly in place, the lies of the Scofield Bible as taught through Dallas Theological, Tim LaHaye, Hal Lindsey, etc... come clearly into view.

Most of the first Christians were Judeans (we now call Jews) - Peter, Paul, etc. Discernment between a true Judean and a false Judean had (has) nothing to do with heritage. It is all about Jesus.

Disparagingly referred to as replacement theology, it is exactly what Jesus taught.

"And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." Matt. 3:9

Peter (stone) was on whom the 'called apart', the children of His kingdom were built. IE. the stone rejected became the new foundation for the true heirs of God's kingdom.

Remember the wedding feast? Those first called didn't come... they were replaced.
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False. You and the 1000,s before you that have claimed it. False.

Think you'll find that out only when you're purging that claim after you die.

Hopefully you learn from it and not spout the same nonsense in your next life.

Stop being a stain on consciousness hoping that something is going to hold your hand so you can actually learn how to be.

You don't learn that way, you'll be back.
The wolves among you will devour the sheep.
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If you are Christian and do not believe in the pre=trib rapture I hope you have 3.5 - 7 years of preps stocked. It's going to be a long rough ride.

I'll be watching from above and prayin for ya.
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Every christain generation thinks it is the last. booooring.
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New International Version - 2 Peter 3

The Day of the Lord

Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.

First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”

But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

(Literally, Hell on earth!)

But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

(He is waiting and hoping for YOU!)

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.

So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.

He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

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goodnews How's that for excitement?

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Every christain generation thinks it is the last. booooring.
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------------------------------------------------------------

New International Version - 2 Peter 3

The Day of the Lord

Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.

First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”

But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

(Literally, Hell on earth!)

But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

(He is waiting and hoping for YOU!)

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.

So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.

He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

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goodnews How's that for excitement?

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The RAPTURE is real.

Let ye who wait for the bridegroom do not fall asleep for what happened to those of the 10 virgins that did?

They were left behind.
Take heed and fill your lamp with oil, let yourself be filled with the Word of God and the Holy Spirit manifest in you!

For surely the Lord comes quickly!

In Jesus Christ!
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The rapture of the faithful in contrast to the Revelation of Jesus at His coming*

Christ comes for His own 1Th 4:13-18 --------------------Christ returns with His own Rev 19:14
Believers taken to Father's House Joh 14:3 ----------------Believers come with Jesus to Earth Mat 24:30
He is seen only by believers 1Co 15:52 --------------------Every eye will see Him Mat 24:30
Earth not judged -----------------------------------------------Earth judged Rev 20:4-5
A Mystery - 1 Co 15:51 --------------------------------------Foretold in OT Zech 12:10
Christians taken first 1Th 4:13-18 3 Mat 13:28-30 -------Wicked are taken first Mat 25:1-13; Rev 3:8-10; Rev 4:1,
He comes to present the Church to Himself 2 Co 11:2 ---He comes with His Church for judgement and to set up his Kingdom Rev 19:6-9, Zec 14:3-4; Jud 1:14-15; Rev 19:11-21
Casts Satan out of heaven to earth Rev 12 ------------------Binds Satan for a thousand years Rev 20
Occurs in the twinkling of an eye 1Co 15:52---------------Comes to earth to do battle at specific locations Isa 63:1-3, Rev 16:16, Zec 12:9-10
Jesus descends with a shout. 1Th 4:16 8 --------------------No shout mentioned Rev 19:11-21
Jesus comes as a thief in the night 1Th 24:43---------------Jesus comes at the end of 7 years of tribulation Dan 9:24-27, 12:11-12; Rev 11:2, 12:6,14, 13:5
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I just love these kind of threads!
If you don't have control of your mind.....someone else will!
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Even New Age Teaching Has A Imminent Rapture!


Much of The World Has Been Conditioned By TV and Movies Such as (Knowing) (Skyline) (V) (The Event)

Connected- 2 Thessalonians 2:11 (God Allows The Strong Delusion By Satan)

Because They Don't Have Love For The Truth (God)




The Rapture

According To New Age Channelers



"The people who leave the planet during the time of Earth changes do not fit in here
any longer, and they are stopping the harmony of Earth. When the time comes
that perhaps 20 million people leave the planet at one time there will be
a tremendous shift in consciousness for those who are remaining."

Barbara Marciniak, "Bringers of the Dawn"



The disappearance of every born-again Christian will be the first in a long line of miracles and fulfillment of prophecy to occur in the last days. The strict fulfillment of events will be powerful evidence of who is in charge. All will know that God is in control but there will still be a great many rebellious souls who refuse to accept Jesus Christ and humbly repent. This is the dark side of Free Choice.
Many do not realize that the end of this age does not entirely revolve around the human race. The end could have occured long ago were it not for God's desire to rescue humanity from Satan and his angels. It is Satan who is manipulating events here and that is why he is referred to as "the god of this world" in 2 Corinthians 4:4 and "the prince of this world" in John 12:31 and 14:30. He rebelled long ago and it is at the conclusion of this age that Satan will be imprisoned. And his angels, as well as all men who refuse the gift of Christ's sacrifice, will finally be entirely cut off from God's love and will not be allowed to continue to sabotage His creation.
Satan is very restricted as to what course of action he may take but this will not stop him from deceiving many. In this task he is very active. In 2 Corinthians 11:14 Paul warns us that Satan masquerades as an angel of light and also remarks that it should not be surprising that his servants appear as servants of righteousness as well. One of their favorite tools is the tool of flattery. They tell us what we want to hear and subtly pervert the truth so that it conforms to our own self-centered and self-serving human philosophies. This is being done on an unprecedented scale in the powerful New Age movement today.
What follows are some quotes from members of the New Age movement who dabble in a practice called "channeling." Channeling is a process whereby you open your mind and soul through meditation and relaxation to the influence and direction of non-human beings. These beings claim to be "aliens" or "angels" or "Ascended Masters," and offer some very interesting advice and predictions concerning the future changes. They claim to be angels, and indeed they are, but the nature of their advice gives them away as fallen angels because it conflicts violently and obviously with the saving message of Jesus Christ, His return in power and glory, as well as with the uncompromising truths that have been revealed through God's prophets.

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