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First Published June 15, 2010 " A TOXIC FIRE IS GOING TO CONTAMINATE THE WHOLE WORLD" ---> According to The Lord Jesus Christ

 
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"knock, knock"



Rev 3:20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.
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I'll pass. Cults always start with dinners.
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Just wondering how insolent people will be when the lights go out and the missiles begin to fly!

You will pass on Eternal Life if you reject Jesus Christ.
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Re: First Published June 15, 2010 " A TOXIC FIRE IS GOING TO CONTAMINATE THE WHOLE WORLD" ---> According to The Lord Jesus Christ
On June 15, 2010 The Lord Jesus Christ said:

"A Toxic Fire Is Going to Contaminate the Whole World"

I was honestly hoping that this Word of Knowledge would be fulfilled in the Battle of Armageddon but it may be sooner!
 Quoting: Once4All


A Very Troubling Time is About To Begin

Wisconsin

It Begins

This is It

Mega Eathquake in Japan

It is Doom; Comes in Waves.



All published IN ADVANCE
 Quoting: Once4All


These are the type of post that leave me questioning the op and his gift. They seem to lack humility. Am I the only one that thinks this seems self-exalting? Bragging about past predictions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1062006


He is pointing out that God is real, and did tell him of these things. How is that not showing humility?

It's quite obvious to me, that no matter what the OP says, there will be people who mock and scoff because that is their nature.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I believe that God is sending a warning to whoever has ears to hear. How could i say it differently?
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

[link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

By the time you figure out how accurate i am it may be too late!

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords.
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Dear God,

Please humble OP for raising himself up above you, portraying himself as a soothsayer for you. He hopes that we seeketh signs from him, and is a false prophet.

AMEN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032229


I don't much give a damn about God at the moment... or agree with Him. But you are a fuckstick.. atleast the OP has a good track record going which means that something talks to him (whether its the Lord or not I dunno) and he is spreading the word of salvation on GLP (where everyone shits on you if you are a "Christer") as well as having the courage to put up a picture of Christ from the shroud of turin documentary (which was very good.)

So tell me asshat, what have YOU done for God lately besides sit there and judge another person who is evangelizing for God? I don't give a shit about Once4All but you AC are just a fucking hypocrit.

End of line.
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just so i can justify me believing this man talks to god can someone who has witnessed this man predict things without
error confirm he is the real deal please
 Quoting: Godlike Elite


He is the real deal. I dunno if Christ is telling him or not, not place to judge... but he called a few things that really came to pass, the japan mega quake was probably THE most specific and the prediction was made on GLP on 02/07/2011 (though his website says the 6th) and, well, it came to pass.

So yeah, he is the real deal when it comes to prophecy so far. Though some of his other stuff is convoluted at best.
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Dear God,

Please humble OP for raising himself up above you, portraying himself as a soothsayer for you. He hopes that we seeketh signs from him, and is a false prophet.

AMEN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032229


I don't much give a damn about God at the moment... or agree with Him. But you are a fuckstick.. atleast the OP has a good track record going which means that something talks to him (whether its the Lord or not I dunno) and he is spreading the word of salvation on GLP (where everyone shits on you if you are a "Christer") as well as having the courage to put up a picture of Christ from the shroud of turin documentary (which was very good.)

So tell me asshat, what have YOU done for God lately besides sit there and judge another person who is evangelizing for God? I don't give a shit about Once4All but you AC are just a fucking hypocrit.

End of line.
 Quoting: Werd 873894


I'm sorry you are angry at God. Would you like to say why? However, you know i will not be able to 'fix' anything.
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

[link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

By the time you figure out how accurate i am it may be too late!

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords.
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fascinating thread ;-)

time will tell.

this generation -- 1948+70=2018, 1967+70=2037

things will get much worse before they get better! he who tried to save his life will lose it. we can trust God knows what He's doing

we have to keep our eyes fixed on Jesus Christ and remember: we are not given a spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind ;-)

we are fortunate to have our blueprint in the Bible for these last days

love rb
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A Very Troubling Time is About To Begin

Wisconsin

It Begins

This is It

Mega Eathquake in Japan

It is Doom; Comes in Waves.



All published IN ADVANCE
 Quoting: Once4All


These are the type of post that leave me questioning the op and his gift. They seem to lack humility. Am I the only one that thinks this seems self-exalting? Bragging about past predictions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1062006


He is pointing out that God is real, and did tell him of these things. How is that not showing humility?

It's quite obvious to me, that no matter what the OP says, there will be people who mock and scoff because that is their nature.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I believe that God is sending a warning to whoever has ears to hear. How could i say it differently?
 Quoting: Once4All


I believe you are right... I just want nothing to do with Him anymore... whether I "burn in hell" or not, I could care less. I see God as an agotistical, ego-ridden petulant child that DEMANDS His way when offering NOTHING to people who have dedicated their entire lives to Him. He rigged the game from the start and put humanity in a horrible predicament when He cast out Satan and his angels onto the Earth... that's the equivalent of throwing snakes into the crib of your child... and so suffering, evil and horrendous things have occurred because God chose to send Satan here, to the same place where he placed His "children."

So I say, fuck God for that. He could have made it an even playing field from the start and let *US* decide how we want to live life without being manipulated by the lies and evil of the fallen angels.

He rigged the game. And I keep asking Him to answer me about why He would do such an evil damn thing.. and He won't answer me... why? Because He doesn't give a fuck about me or my questions... He just demands worship and praise even if your wife is being raped by 12 men right in front of you... he demands you praise and thank Him even in your hardship.

I say bullshit...
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These are the type of post that leave me questioning the op and his gift. They seem to lack humility. Am I the only one that thinks this seems self-exalting? Bragging about past predictions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1062006


He is pointing out that God is real, and did tell him of these things. How is that not showing humility?

It's quite obvious to me, that no matter what the OP says, there will be people who mock and scoff because that is their nature.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I believe that God is sending a warning to whoever has ears to hear. How could i say it differently?
 Quoting: Once4All


I believe you are right... I just want nothing to do with Him anymore... whether I "burn in hell" or not, I could care less. I see God as an agotistical, ego-ridden petulant child that DEMANDS His way when offering NOTHING to people who have dedicated their entire lives to Him. He rigged the game from the start and put humanity in a horrible predicament when He cast out Satan and his angels onto the Earth... that's the equivalent of throwing snakes into the crib of your child... and so suffering, evil and horrendous things have occurred because God chose to send Satan here, to the same place where he placed His "children."

So I say, fuck God for that. He could have made it an even playing field from the start and let *US* decide how we want to live life without being manipulated by the lies and evil of the fallen angels.

He rigged the game. And I keep asking Him to answer me about why He would do such an evil damn thing.. and He won't answer me... why? Because He doesn't give a fuck about me or my questions... He just demands worship and praise even if your wife is being raped by 12 men right in front of you... he demands you praise and thank Him even in your hardship.

I say bullshit...
 Quoting: Werd 873894


You're wrong about this. Would you allow me to try and explain?
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These are the type of post that leave me questioning the op and his gift. They seem to lack humility. Am I the only one that thinks this seems self-exalting? Bragging about past predictions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1062006


He is pointing out that God is real, and did tell him of these things. How is that not showing humility?

It's quite obvious to me, that no matter what the OP says, there will be people who mock and scoff because that is their nature.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I believe that God is sending a warning to whoever has ears to hear. How could i say it differently?
 Quoting: Once4All


I believe you are right... I just want nothing to do with Him anymore... whether I "burn in hell" or not, I could care less. I see God as an agotistical, ego-ridden petulant child that DEMANDS His way when offering NOTHING to people who have dedicated their entire lives to Him. He rigged the game from the start and put humanity in a horrible predicament when He cast out Satan and his angels onto the Earth... that's the equivalent of throwing snakes into the crib of your child... and so suffering, evil and horrendous things have occurred because God chose to send Satan here, to the same place where he placed His "children."

So I say, fuck God for that. He could have made it an even playing field from the start and let *US* decide how we want to live life without being manipulated by the lies and evil of the fallen angels.

He rigged the game. And I keep asking Him to answer me about why He would do such an evil damn thing.. and He won't answer me... why? Because He doesn't give a fuck about me or my questions... He just demands worship and praise even if your wife is being raped by 12 men right in front of you... he demands you praise and thank Him even in your hardship.

I say bullshit...
 Quoting: Werd 873894


God understands every emotion. Even Jesus became angry. I lifetime is not too long to prepare for Eternity. You say satan fell. Yes. Satan upset the harmony, not God. We learn to follow Jesus now so that we will not make the same mistake satan made.
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

[link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

By the time you figure out how accurate i am it may be too late!

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords.
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Re: First Published June 15, 2010 " A TOXIC FIRE IS GOING TO CONTAMINATE THE WHOLE WORLD" ---> According to The Lord Jesus Christ
Dear God,

Please humble OP for raising himself up above you, portraying himself as a soothsayer for you. He hopes that we seeketh signs from him, and is a false prophet.

AMEN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032229


I don't much give a damn about God at the moment... or agree with Him. But you are a fuckstick.. atleast the OP has a good track record going which means that something talks to him (whether its the Lord or not I dunno) and he is spreading the word of salvation on GLP (where everyone shits on you if you are a "Christer") as well as having the courage to put up a picture of Christ from the shroud of turin documentary (which was very good.)

So tell me asshat, what have YOU done for God lately besides sit there and judge another person who is evangelizing for God? I don't give a shit about Once4All but you AC are just a fucking hypocrit.

End of line.
 Quoting: Werd 873894


I'm sorry you are angry at God. Would you like to say why? However, you know i will not be able to 'fix' anything.
 Quoting: Once4All


Why? I watched a good friend of mine die... the one who brought me to Christ when I was falling apart and felt like a horrible murderer for the things I had to do for the US during my time in the military. He walked me through it and showed me the mercy of Christ. I was born again and spent alot of my life reading and learning from the bible about God and the whole picture painted in scripture. I sought out and found plenty of evidence in the sciences to show that there IS a need for a creator. The questions or concerns I had about God I just ignored because I was "in the faith" ...

Then my good friend was diagnosed with cancer. He still kept on for God and wasn't in the least troubled by it... years went by and God didn't heal him (which is fine.) But then came his last year of life... he was in so much agony and pain that I cannot explain it to you, it drove me crazy to see this guy cry out to God on a hospital bed to just kill him and take him home before he passed out again from the pain. I and his wife and kids watched him like this for 6 months, in horrible horrid agony (so much so I wanted to just put a bullet in him at one point and end it)... Here was a man who dedicated 30 years of his life to God, through Christ... brought MANY to salvation, gave almost all he had to help the needy (sometimes at the risk of his own family's health) and God left him to suffer incredibly for 6 months, FUCKING 6 MONTHS! Not even Christ suffered that horrible for THAT LONG. God didn't even have the mercy to take him away and let him die... He left him there, to the bitter end.

We had to watch... we who loved him like family... we had to watch and do nothing. Where the fuck was God? Probably busy destroying some country or other...

So I say again... Fuck God. You can tell Him for me since you seem to have a line to em... Fuck Him. Tell him Sandor says that.
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He is pointing out that God is real, and did tell him of these things. How is that not showing humility?

It's quite obvious to me, that no matter what the OP says, there will be people who mock and scoff because that is their nature.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I believe that God is sending a warning to whoever has ears to hear. How could i say it differently?
 Quoting: Once4All


I believe you are right... I just want nothing to do with Him anymore... whether I "burn in hell" or not, I could care less. I see God as an agotistical, ego-ridden petulant child that DEMANDS His way when offering NOTHING to people who have dedicated their entire lives to Him. He rigged the game from the start and put humanity in a horrible predicament when He cast out Satan and his angels onto the Earth... that's the equivalent of throwing snakes into the crib of your child... and so suffering, evil and horrendous things have occurred because God chose to send Satan here, to the same place where he placed His "children."

So I say, fuck God for that. He could have made it an even playing field from the start and let *US* decide how we want to live life without being manipulated by the lies and evil of the fallen angels.

He rigged the game. And I keep asking Him to answer me about why He would do such an evil damn thing.. and He won't answer me... why? Because He doesn't give a fuck about me or my questions... He just demands worship and praise even if your wife is being raped by 12 men right in front of you... he demands you praise and thank Him even in your hardship.

I say bullshit...
 Quoting: Werd 873894


You're wrong about this. Would you allow me to try and explain?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please, explain... perhaps you see something I don't,, but I doubt it... I spent a good portion of my life studying scripture and I see it as this: God is in control of everything right? He chooses what happens and what doesn't, therefore He chose to send or let Satan come down to Earth (or the material plane if you will) knowing that THIS PLACE is where Humanity, his children, would be... and knowing that Satan would mislead, manipulate and torture them. Then Adam, of course, being nothing but a little man, failed and sinned against God... THEN ALL OF US HUMAN BEINGS WHO CAME AFTER ARE PAYING FOR ADAMs FUCK UP! WTF?! So another man commits murder and I pay the price for it? Where is the logic in that? Not to mention that Satan manipulated Eve and Eve manipulated Adam with Satan's own words and they both failed.. why? because Satan was on Earth... where God sent HIm.

I call bullshit... God could have made a place and sent Satan and his followers there.. instead of the material plane to influence mankind.

Tell me how I am wrong in this.
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Dear God,

Please humble OP for raising himself up above you, portraying himself as a soothsayer for you. He hopes that we seeketh signs from him, and is a false prophet.

AMEN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032229


I don't much give a damn about God at the moment... or agree with Him. But you are a fuckstick.. atleast the OP has a good track record going which means that something talks to him (whether its the Lord or not I dunno) and he is spreading the word of salvation on GLP (where everyone shits on you if you are a "Christer") as well as having the courage to put up a picture of Christ from the shroud of turin documentary (which was very good.)

So tell me asshat, what have YOU done for God lately besides sit there and judge another person who is evangelizing for God? I don't give a shit about Once4All but you AC are just a fucking hypocrit.

End of line.
 Quoting: Werd 873894


I'm sorry you are angry at God. Would you like to say why? However, you know i will not be able to 'fix' anything.
 Quoting: Once4All


Why? I watched a good friend of mine die... the one who brought me to Christ when I was falling apart and felt like a horrible murderer for the things I had to do for the US during my time in the military. He walked me through it and showed me the mercy of Christ. I was born again and spent alot of my life reading and learning from the bible about God and the whole picture painted in scripture. I sought out and found plenty of evidence in the sciences to show that there IS a need for a creator. The questions or concerns I had about God I just ignored because I was "in the faith" ...

Then my good friend was diagnosed with cancer. He still kept on for God and wasn't in the least troubled by it... years went by and God didn't heal him (which is fine.) But then came his last year of life... he was in so much agony and pain that I cannot explain it to you, it drove me crazy to see this guy cry out to God on a hospital bed to just kill him and take him home before he passed out again from the pain. I and his wife and kids watched him like this for 6 months, in horrible horrid agony (so much so I wanted to just put a bullet in him at one point and end it)... Here was a man who dedicated 30 years of his life to God, through Christ... brought MANY to salvation, gave almost all he had to help the needy (sometimes at the risk of his own family's health) and God left him to suffer incredibly for 6 months, FUCKING 6 MONTHS! Not even Christ suffered that horrible for THAT LONG. God didn't even have the mercy to take him away and let him die... He left him there, to the bitter end.

We had to watch... we who loved him like family... we had to watch and do nothing. Where the fuck was God? Probably busy destroying some country or other...

So I say again... Fuck God. You can tell Him for me since you seem to have a line to em... Fuck Him. Tell him Sandor says that.
 Quoting: Werd 873894


Before i even opened your post i hear the word

'blasphemer'

There is nothing i can really say about that except if your friend truly did love Jesus then he is enjoying Eternal Happiness while you are creating your own hell.

I pray you change your ways.
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

[link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

By the time you figure out how accurate i am it may be too late!

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords.
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fascinating thread ;-)

time will tell.

this generation -- 1948+70=2018, 1967+70=2037

things will get much worse before they get better! he who tried to save his life will lose it. we can trust God knows what He's doing

we have to keep our eyes fixed on Jesus Christ and remember: we are not given a spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind ;-)

we are fortunate to have our blueprint in the Bible for these last days

love rb
 Quoting: rb 925281


So true rb, not only will they get worse, but they will be closer and closer together. I just pray for the lost. I also pray for the saved, that they will remain strong in their faith and love.
If you break my wings, I will just find a cloud and learn to fly again. The Lord will catch you when you fall or teach you to fly!
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fascinating thread ;-)

time will tell.

this generation -- 1948+70=2018, 1967+70=2037

things will get much worse before they get better! he who tried to save his life will lose it. we can trust God knows what He's doing

we have to keep our eyes fixed on Jesus Christ and remember: we are not given a spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind ;-)

we are fortunate to have our blueprint in the Bible for these last days

love rb
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Fantastic Advice!


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John 11:35 Jesus wept.

[link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

By the time you figure out how accurate i am it may be too late!

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords.
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I don't much give a damn about God at the moment... or agree with Him. But you are a fuckstick.. atleast the OP has a good track record going which means that something talks to him (whether its the Lord or not I dunno) and he is spreading the word of salvation on GLP (where everyone shits on you if you are a "Christer") as well as having the courage to put up a picture of Christ from the shroud of turin documentary (which was very good.)

So tell me asshat, what have YOU done for God lately besides sit there and judge another person who is evangelizing for God? I don't give a shit about Once4All but you AC are just a fucking hypocrit.

End of line.
 Quoting: Werd 873894


I'm sorry you are angry at God. Would you like to say why? However, you know i will not be able to 'fix' anything.
 Quoting: Once4All


Why? I watched a good friend of mine die... the one who brought me to Christ when I was falling apart and felt like a horrible murderer for the things I had to do for the US during my time in the military. He walked me through it and showed me the mercy of Christ. I was born again and spent alot of my life reading and learning from the bible about God and the whole picture painted in scripture. I sought out and found plenty of evidence in the sciences to show that there IS a need for a creator. The questions or concerns I had about God I just ignored because I was "in the faith" ...

Then my good friend was diagnosed with cancer. He still kept on for God and wasn't in the least troubled by it... years went by and God didn't heal him (which is fine.) But then came his last year of life... he was in so much agony and pain that I cannot explain it to you, it drove me crazy to see this guy cry out to God on a hospital bed to just kill him and take him home before he passed out again from the pain. I and his wife and kids watched him like this for 6 months, in horrible horrid agony (so much so I wanted to just put a bullet in him at one point and end it)... Here was a man who dedicated 30 years of his life to God, through Christ... brought MANY to salvation, gave almost all he had to help the needy (sometimes at the risk of his own family's health) and God left him to suffer incredibly for 6 months, FUCKING 6 MONTHS! Not even Christ suffered that horrible for THAT LONG. God didn't even have the mercy to take him away and let him die... He left him there, to the bitter end.

We had to watch... we who loved him like family... we had to watch and do nothing. Where the fuck was God? Probably busy destroying some country or other...

So I say again... Fuck God. You can tell Him for me since you seem to have a line to em... Fuck Him. Tell him Sandor says that.
 Quoting: Werd 873894


Before i even opened your post i hear the word

'blasphemer'

There is nothing i can really say about that except if your friend truly did love Jesus then he is enjoying Eternal Happiness while you are creating your own hell.

I pray you change your ways.
 Quoting: Once4All


Perhaps I am. But then again, God has much to answer for. Whether He gives me a chance to ask away or not, it does not make Him right because He says he's right... nad if I am wrong I would be the first to admit it and pay the consequences, I don't fear that... given the things I have done I deserve it. However, I am still waiting for an answer to my questions from God, He doesn't answer... perhaps He doesn't care to, perhaps it makes no difference. Perhaps all of this life is nothing but futile bullshit. Let God destroy it all, we deserve no less. At this point in my life, I could care less myself.

I know yer a man of God perhaps. I have seen you call a few things that came to pass. but what difference does it make in the end? We all go before Him, everything changes and nothing is left but the hollow meaningless nature of existence. Better to be cast in the lake of fire and destroyed than to exist without meaning.
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I believe that God is sending a warning to whoever has ears to hear. How could i say it differently?
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I believe you are right... I just want nothing to do with Him anymore... whether I "burn in hell" or not, I could care less. I see God as an agotistical, ego-ridden petulant child that DEMANDS His way when offering NOTHING to people who have dedicated their entire lives to Him. He rigged the game from the start and put humanity in a horrible predicament when He cast out Satan and his angels onto the Earth... that's the equivalent of throwing snakes into the crib of your child... and so suffering, evil and horrendous things have occurred because God chose to send Satan here, to the same place where he placed His "children."

So I say, fuck God for that. He could have made it an even playing field from the start and let *US* decide how we want to live life without being manipulated by the lies and evil of the fallen angels.

He rigged the game. And I keep asking Him to answer me about why He would do such an evil damn thing.. and He won't answer me... why? Because He doesn't give a fuck about me or my questions... He just demands worship and praise even if your wife is being raped by 12 men right in front of you... he demands you praise and thank Him even in your hardship.

I say bullshit...
 Quoting: Werd 873894


You're wrong about this. Would you allow me to try and explain?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please, explain... perhaps you see something I don't,, but I doubt it... I spent a good portion of my life studying scripture and I see it as this: God is in control of everything right? He chooses what happens and what doesn't, therefore He chose to send or let Satan come down to Earth (or the material plane if you will) knowing that THIS PLACE is where Humanity, his children, would be... and knowing that Satan would mislead, manipulate and torture them. Then Adam, of course, being nothing but a little man, failed and sinned against God... THEN ALL OF US HUMAN BEINGS WHO CAME AFTER ARE PAYING FOR ADAMs FUCK UP! WTF?! So another man commits murder and I pay the price for it? Where is the logic in that? Not to mention that Satan manipulated Eve and Eve manipulated Adam with Satan's own words and they both failed.. why? because Satan was on Earth... where God sent HIm.

I call bullshit... God could have made a place and sent Satan and his followers there.. instead of the material plane to influence mankind.

Tell me how I am wrong in this.
 Quoting: Werd 873894



Ok here goes. God created man, to live and be happy. There was just one rule.....don't eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Man didn't want that, he wanted to know evil too, and he wanted to do things his way and not follow God's instructions for a happy world. So, man turned against God and ate it.

As a result, man was kicked out of the garden of eden and lost that protection, perfection, and bliss that we originally had.

But, man wanted to do it his way, so he did. This formed a question, "can man rule himself and be successful at it?". Remember that there are myriads and myriads of angels also watching, they heard the question that was raised. So, God allowed it to happen, God allowed us to decide for ourselves what we wanted to do.

Since we turned against God and wanted to know both good and evil, we were now sinful. But what is sin? The Old Testament tells us. Without it, we wouldn't even know what sin was, we wouldn't even know what we were doing wrong in God's eyes and how wrong it really was without the OT.

So, anyone that attempted to serve God, did their best to follow the Law, but it was impossible, and because of that we now know the full result of what we originally did in the garden of eden. We are now burdened with sin, and the Law which was gauge of what is right and what was wrong.

The Law was difficult for the people, and God knew that, so He sent a final sacrifice for us so that we could be reconciled with God once again, without being bound to this oppressive law. We were given a second chance after we realized that we screwed up so bad and couldn't pay the consequences. He loved us that much to offer us an alternative to the Law in the form of a final atonement for all of our sin so that we can be free of sin and enter into His Holy Kingdom.

This period of time, has also answered another question and that question is, "Can man rule themselves?" Mankind is so stubborn that we had to be allowed to try every conceivable method of government, nation and tribe. All have failed miserably, so God and His Holy Rule has been vindicated both on earth and in heaven.

The questions have been answered and no stone has been left unturned.

But why did God have to send His son to atone for our sins? Why can't God just forget about our sins and not require a sacrifice? Because God is Holy, Righteous and Just. His kingdom is also Holy, Righteous and Just and nothing that is not holy can reside in His Kingdom because then it would not be Holy anymore, it would be just like this world is, full of evil. Evil and Righteousness can not dwell together. But instead of giving up on us completely, or making us live under an oppressive Law that almost nobody can keep, He made a concession, an exception, another way for us so that we too can enjoy in all of His blessings.

All you have to do is believe in the savior, the one who died for your sins, the one who paid the price for you so that you can be free and live if you only believe in Him.
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Werd, i do not know what you are going through but i believe Job should serve as your example. Job lost everything but did not curse God. That is the mistake you are now making. You must repent before He will 'speak' to you. Even should He decide to speak to you it will most likely be through Holy Scripture or your life experiences instead of some kind of audible voice.

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Dear God,

Please humble OP for raising himself up above you, portraying himself as a soothsayer for you. He hopes that we seeketh signs from him, and is a false prophet.

AMEN
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Particularly during these dark times, the Lord speaks to us all, but few of us listen and many who try to listen do not fully understand because they remain distracted and misguided by worldly influences and personal weaknesses.

I think the OP is trying to make himself a servant of the Lord. Don't be surprised when some of his predictions come true.

In fact, many people will see the future through the Lord.

Don't be afraid to tell others of your visions.

Acts 2:17:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.
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This sounds very trollish. Too bad you cannot remove that post. He has posted it several times, only on Christian threads.
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Perhaps I am. But then again, God has much to answer for. Whether He gives me a chance to ask away or not, it does not make Him right because He says he's right... nad if I am wrong I would be the first to admit it and pay the consequences, I don't fear that... given the things I have done I deserve it. However, I am still waiting for an answer to my questions from God, He doesn't answer... perhaps He doesn't care to, perhaps it makes no difference. Perhaps all of this life is nothing but futile bullshit. Let God destroy it all, we deserve no less. At this point in my life, I could care less myself.

I know yer a man of God perhaps. I have seen you call a few things that came to pass. but what difference does it make in the end? We all go before Him, everything changes and nothing is left but the hollow meaningless nature of existence. Better to be cast in the lake of fire and destroyed than to exist without meaning.
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Here is your problem my friend. You're only looking at the world, and yourself, through your own eyes.

You're only looking at one side of the coin, your own side.

There is a whole other side to this story, and it's God's views, how He sees it, and He knows everything.

Instead of blaming Satan and mankind for following Satan, you are blaming God, the one who created you, the one who died so you could have a choice at eternal life, the one who gives you the air you're breathing right now. The one who wants you to live and receive blessings.

You're cursing Him, while in fact, it's satan that is responsible for all of the suffering and sin in the world, and mankind's choice to follow satan.

Put the blame where the blame really rests.

If you really hate sin, and the suffering that it causes, fight against it by turning to the Lord!!!!!! What you're doing is adding to the sin of the world by cursing God and you don't even see it.

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Dear God,

Please humble OP for raising himself up above you, portraying himself as a soothsayer for you. He hopes that we seeketh signs from him, and is a false prophet.

AMEN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032229


Particularly during these dark times, the Lord speaks to us all, but few of us listen and many who try to listen do not fully understand because they remain distracted and misguided by worldly influences and personal weaknesses.

I think the OP is trying to make himself a servant of the Lord. Don't be surprised when some of his predictions come true.

In fact, many people will see the future through the Lord.

Don't be afraid to tell others of your visions.

Acts 2:17:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155769


Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us. Yes, i do want to serve the Lord Jesus and believe that i am.

These are Words of Knowledge from God. They will be fulfilled accurately. I know that Jesus speaks to me but i often times do not know how the Word will be fulfilled.

hf

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Please, explain... perhaps you see something I don't,, but I doubt it... I spent a good portion of my life studying scripture ...........
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You might have spent alot of your time studying scripture, so you probably know the parable of the sower.


"And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable: a sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it. And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture. And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it. And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."—Luke 8:4-8.

Your soil was thorny, and you allowed the thorns to overgrow and choke the seed that was planted in you.

Your faith was weak, and you allowed satan to get a grip on your mind and heart.

I urge you to seriously consider these things, your life is at stake. You say that a dear loved one brought you to the Lord, and he suffered and died. How do you think he feels watching you from heaven right now, cursing God?

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I believe that God is sending a warning to whoever has ears to hear. How could i say it differently?
 Quoting: Once4All


I believe you are right... I just want nothing to do with Him anymore... whether I "burn in hell" or not, I could care less. I see God as an agotistical, ego-ridden petulant child that DEMANDS His way when offering NOTHING to people who have dedicated their entire lives to Him. He rigged the game from the start and put humanity in a horrible predicament when He cast out Satan and his angels onto the Earth... that's the equivalent of throwing snakes into the crib of your child... and so suffering, evil and horrendous things have occurred because God chose to send Satan here, to the same place where he placed His "children."

So I say, fuck God for that. He could have made it an even playing field from the start and let *US* decide how we want to live life without being manipulated by the lies and evil of the fallen angels.

He rigged the game. And I keep asking Him to answer me about why He would do such an evil damn thing.. and He won't answer me... why? Because He doesn't give a fuck about me or my questions... He just demands worship and praise even if your wife is being raped by 12 men right in front of you... he demands you praise and thank Him even in your hardship.

I say bullshit...
 Quoting: Werd 873894


You're wrong about this. Would you allow me to try and explain?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please, explain... perhaps you see something I don't,, but I doubt it... I spent a good portion of my life studying scripture and I see it as this: God is in control of everything right? He chooses what happens and what doesn't, therefore He chose to send or let Satan come down to Earth (or the material plane if you will) knowing that THIS PLACE is where Humanity, his children, would be... and knowing that Satan would mislead, manipulate and torture them. Then Adam, of course, being nothing but a little man, failed and sinned against God... THEN ALL OF US HUMAN BEINGS WHO CAME AFTER ARE PAYING FOR ADAMs FUCK UP! WTF?! So another man commits murder and I pay the price for it? Where is the logic in that? Not to mention that Satan manipulated Eve and Eve manipulated Adam with Satan's own words and they both failed.. why? because Satan was on Earth... where God sent HIm.

I call bullshit... God could have made a place and sent Satan and his followers there.. instead of the material plane to influence mankind.

Tell me how I am wrong in this.
 Quoting: Werd 873894



Werd
, after reading your threads, I felt I should tell you that you must go and rent this movie called 'Amish Grace.' Go and get the movie and watch it and then come and post here and tell me what you think. It is a true story about the man who went and killed Amish children in a schoolhouse in PA a few years ago. It is about the agony and pain one goes through when you lose a loved one. It looks like a 'silly' movie, but I'm telling you it will really heal your heart. It will help you get a bigger picture of GOD and Jesus. Right now you're just all wrapped up in your hurts.

If you see this movie, and not change your opinion of life, then there is nothing more to say imho. Watch it! It might change your life!!
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I believe you are right... I just want nothing to do with Him anymore... whether I "burn in hell" or not, I could care less. I see God as an agotistical, ego-ridden petulant child that DEMANDS His way when offering NOTHING to people who have dedicated their entire lives to Him. He rigged the game from the start and put humanity in a horrible predicament when He cast out Satan and his angels onto the Earth... that's the equivalent of throwing snakes into the crib of your child... and so suffering, evil and horrendous things have occurred because God chose to send Satan here, to the same place where he placed His "children."

So I say, fuck God for that. He could have made it an even playing field from the start and let *US* decide how we want to live life without being manipulated by the lies and evil of the fallen angels.

He rigged the game. And I keep asking Him to answer me about why He would do such an evil damn thing.. and He won't answer me... why? Because He doesn't give a fuck about me or my questions... He just demands worship and praise even if your wife is being raped by 12 men right in front of you... he demands you praise and thank Him even in your hardship.

I say bullshit...
 Quoting: Werd 873894


You're wrong about this. Would you allow me to try and explain?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please, explain... perhaps you see something I don't,, but I doubt it... I spent a good portion of my life studying scripture and I see it as this: God is in control of everything right? He chooses what happens and what doesn't, therefore He chose to send or let Satan come down to Earth (or the material plane if you will) knowing that THIS PLACE is where Humanity, his children, would be... and knowing that Satan would mislead, manipulate and torture them. Then Adam, of course, being nothing but a little man, failed and sinned against God... THEN ALL OF US HUMAN BEINGS WHO CAME AFTER ARE PAYING FOR ADAMs FUCK UP! WTF?! So another man commits murder and I pay the price for it? Where is the logic in that? Not to mention that Satan manipulated Eve and Eve manipulated Adam with Satan's own words and they both failed.. why? because Satan was on Earth... where God sent HIm.

I call bullshit... God could have made a place and sent Satan and his followers there.. instead of the material plane to influence mankind.

Tell me how I am wrong in this.
 Quoting: Werd 873894



Ok here goes. God created man, to live and be happy. There was just one rule.....don't eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Man didn't want that, he wanted to know evil too, and he wanted to do things his way and not follow God's instructions for a happy world. So, man turned against God and ate it.

As a result, man was kicked out of the garden of eden and lost that protection, perfection, and bliss that we originally had.

But, man wanted to do it his way, so he did. This formed a question, "can man rule himself and be successful at it?". Remember that there are myriads and myriads of angels also watching, they heard the question that was raised. So, God allowed it to happen, God allowed us to decide for ourselves what we wanted to do.

Since we turned against God and wanted to know both good and evil, we were now sinful. But what is sin? The Old Testament tells us. Without it, we wouldn't even know what sin was, we wouldn't even know what we were doing wrong in God's eyes and how wrong it really was without the OT.

So, anyone that attempted to serve God, did their best to follow the Law, but it was impossible, and because of that we now know the full result of what we originally did in the garden of eden. We are now burdened with sin, and the Law which was gauge of what is right and what was wrong.

The Law was difficult for the people, and God knew that, so He sent a final sacrifice for us so that we could be reconciled with God once again, without being bound to this oppressive law. We were given a second chance after we realized that we screwed up so bad and couldn't pay the consequences. He loved us that much to offer us an alternative to the Law in the form of a final atonement for all of our sin so that we can be free of sin and enter into His Holy Kingdom.

This period of time, has also answered another question and that question is, "Can man rule themselves?" Mankind is so stubborn that we had to be allowed to try every conceivable method of government, nation and tribe. All have failed miserably, so God and His Holy Rule has been vindicated both on earth and in heaven.

The questions have been answered and no stone has been left unturned.

But why did God have to send His son to atone for our sins? Why can't God just forget about our sins and not require a sacrifice? Because God is Holy, Righteous and Just. His kingdom is also Holy, Righteous and Just and nothing that is not holy can reside in His Kingdom because then it would not be Holy anymore, it would be just like this world is, full of evil. Evil and Righteousness can not dwell together. But instead of giving up on us completely, or making us live under an oppressive Law that almost nobody can keep, He made a concession, an exception, another way for us so that we too can enjoy in all of His blessings.

All you have to do is believe in the savior, the one who died for your sins, the one who paid the price for you so that you can be free and live if you only believe in Him.
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Awesome explanation. you should save this in a file somewhere!!!


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Lisa, I appreciate you taking the time, honestly I do. But there is one thing you forgot in your reply. That being the part where SATAN convinces Eve that nothing bad would happen if they ate from the tree. If it wasn't for Satan, Eve would have never known, never been tempted - never been manipulated. If God was a good God (as scripture tells us) then He would have cast Satan and his angels out into some other place, another realm or universe... but no, God sent them down to the Earth, where they would torture and manipulate man mercilessly for being in the "image of God."

I just want to know why God didn't make it an EVEN playing field. No manipulations from Satan, you either choose your own life of your own volition or choose God's way of your own volition. No Satan in the mix... a neutral playing field. That is just fair.

Now many tell me that this is the way God chose it to be, so we have to accept it. Again, I ask why? It's not a fair circumstance that was given to us, and the bible tells us that our God is a fair and just God. Then, of course, they tell me that we will never understand some of the upper mysteries of God right now... Personally, I think that is a cop out.

Either way, I feel as I do for many reasons, not just the unanswered questions. And Once4All was right in what he said, no one can "fix" it for me except God, and He has chosen to not intercede, as usual. So it will be what it will be... eternal life or eternal death, I could care less anymore.
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Hi Once4All hi

Do you have any thoughts on how bad this "toxic fire" is going to get?, or how many people are going to lose their lives?
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Werd, i do not know what you are going through but i believe Job should serve as your example. Job lost everything but did not curse God. That is the mistake you are now making. You must repent before He will 'speak' to you. Even should He decide to speak to you it will most likely be through Holy Scripture or your life experiences instead of some kind of audible voice.
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See that's something else that bothers me, since you brought up Job. What God did to Job was wrong... he played a GAME with Satan over Job. He let Satan have his way with a man who respected and honored God. Just to prove a point to Satan.

That is what irks me the worst about God. He moves us like pawns in a chess game with some entity who shouldn't even BE in this universe. It's wrong... *I* wouldn't do that to another human being, and *I* am just a sorry, corrupt, fucked up human piece of shit - How could God? How can he toy with other people like that just to prove a point or to glorify Himself? Where was the love He had for Job in allowing Satan to so destroy his life?

I mean, am I insane here? Or am I the only one that sees this and thinks it was horribly manipulative of God and just out and out wrong?
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Perhaps I am. But then again, God has much to answer for. Whether He gives me a chance to ask away or not, it does not make Him right because He says he's right... nad if I am wrong I would be the first to admit it and pay the consequences, I don't fear that... given the things I have done I deserve it. However, I am still waiting for an answer to my questions from God, He doesn't answer... perhaps He doesn't care to, perhaps it makes no difference. Perhaps all of this life is nothing but futile bullshit. Let God destroy it all, we deserve no less. At this point in my life, I could care less myself.

I know yer a man of God perhaps. I have seen you call a few things that came to pass. but what difference does it make in the end? We all go before Him, everything changes and nothing is left but the hollow meaningless nature of existence. Better to be cast in the lake of fire and destroyed than to exist without meaning.
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Here is your problem my friend. You're only looking at the world, and yourself, through your own eyes.

You're only looking at one side of the coin, your own side.

There is a whole other side to this story, and it's God's views, how He sees it, and He knows everything.

Instead of blaming Satan and mankind for following Satan, you are blaming God, the one who created you, the one who died so you could have a choice at eternal life, the one who gives you the air you're breathing right now. The one who wants you to live and receive blessings.

You're cursing Him, while in fact, it's satan that is responsible for all of the suffering and sin in the world, and mankind's choice to follow satan.

Put the blame where the blame really rests.

If you really hate sin, and the suffering that it causes, fight against it by turning to the Lord!!!!!! What you're doing is adding to the sin of the world by cursing God and you don't even see it.
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WAit a second though... you are missing my argument. it was God that allowed Satan to come here to Earth in the first place. So isn't it God's fault that Satan is here to manipulate us into turning towards evil? It's not my choice if day in and day out I am being "spoken" to in my mind and urged on to commit sin... I mean, Satan never rests, but we human beings grow weary when pushed for long enough. If Satan wasn't here on Earth then any act of evil (or missing the mark) would be wholly and fully your OWN fault... and you could not point your finger at anyone (or anything) else.

But that's not the way it is. Satan is always there, always pushing and pushing and pushing without rest (even on the elect) ... and God expects us not to fail? Not to falter? Not to sin? It's a rigged game from the start.
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Werd, i do not know what you are going through but i believe Job should serve as your example. Job lost everything but did not curse God. That is the mistake you are now making. You must repent before He will 'speak' to you. Even should He decide to speak to you it will most likely be through Holy Scripture or your life experiences instead of some kind of audible voice.
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See that's something else that bothers me, since you brought up Job. What God did to Job was wrong... he played a GAME with Satan over Job. He let Satan have his way with a man who respected and honored God. Just to prove a point to Satan.

That is what irks me the worst about God. He moves us like pawns in a chess game with some entity who shouldn't even BE in this universe. It's wrong... *I* wouldn't do that to another human being, and *I* am just a sorry, corrupt, fucked up human piece of shit - How could God? How can he toy with other people like that just to prove a point or to glorify Himself? Where was the love He had for Job in allowing Satan to so destroy his life?

I mean, am I insane here? Or am I the only one that sees this and thinks it was horribly manipulative of God and just out and out wrong?
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You are the clay, not the Potter.

If you do not accept this you will be lost forever. You have enough knowledge to repent of your sin, I pray you do because if you fail to repent your decision will become irrevocable.
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Lisa*Lisa

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03/17/2011 08:19 PM

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Re: First Published June 15, 2010 " A TOXIC FIRE IS GOING TO CONTAMINATE THE WHOLE WORLD" ---> According to The Lord Jesus Christ
Lisa, I appreciate you taking the time, honestly I do. But there is one thing you forgot in your reply. That being the part where SATAN convinces Eve that nothing bad would happen if they ate from the tree. If it wasn't for Satan, Eve would have never known, never been tempted - never been manipulated. If God was a good God (as scripture tells us) then He would have cast Satan and his angels out into some other place, another realm or universe... but no, God sent them down to the Earth, where they would torture and manipulate man mercilessly for being in the "image of God."

I just want to know why God didn't make it an EVEN playing field. No manipulations from Satan, you either choose your own life of your own volition or choose God's way of your own volition. No Satan in the mix... a neutral playing field. That is just fair.

Now many tell me that this is the way God chose it to be, so we have to accept it. Again, I ask why? It's not a fair circumstance that was given to us, and the bible tells us that our God is a fair and just God. Then, of course, they tell me that we will never understand some of the upper mysteries of God right now... Personally, I think that is a cop out.

Either way, I feel as I do for many reasons, not just the unanswered questions. And Once4All was right in what he said, no one can "fix" it for me except God, and He has chosen to not intercede, as usual. So it will be what it will be... eternal life or eternal death, I could care less anymore.
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Eve was warned ahead of time, she was told what to do. She made a direct and conscious choice to ignore God and decide for herself what is right and wrong. You are now doing the same thing that she did.

I have explained why God did what He did, but you're not satisfied with that because you want things done your way, instead of God's way.

Let it be known, that history has proven that God's way is the right way, and mankind has failed miserably in deciding for himself what is good and what is evil.

Instead of accepting this truth, you're continuing to tell God that He is "doing it wrong" because you don't like the result of sin.

I don't like the result of sin either, and neither does God. That's why He told us to be faithful to Him and follow His commandments.

You say that you want an even playing field, well that's what you have. You have the ability to chose evil or good, one way or another. You have the right to decide for yourself, God gave you that right. I can't imagine anything more fair and more even then that.

But, you want a perfect world with no evil choices. Well, that perfect world is coming, and soon, and those who have proven themselves loyal and worthy will live in that new world, His coming Kingdom.
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