>>> Am I the only one who finds this SUSPICIOUS?

Thanks AC. Great post.

I have listened to Nick Redfern's interviews and also felt that he was very brave to do his book.

That told me he has an open mind, did his intense research and is now looking at all possiblities.

Here is the first part of one interview, see the rest at the bottom link:

Nick Redfern (01) - Aliens & Secret Govt. Group: Interview w/George Knapp 10-18-10



Rest of this series on playlist here:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Psalm 53 states..verse # 4

"Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread: they have not called upon God."

CONFIRMATION

They make good points about the harvesting of souls and technology from these entities in this part of the series.

Knapp mentioned that Lazar spoke of the same thing.

Nick Redfern (07) - Aliens & Secret Govt. Group: Interview w/George Knapp 10-18-10

Occult.

The hidden.

I know it well because I have been brought there.

I was taken by an unseen force once, to a gray round room where I was laying flat.

A dark gray partition was off to my left where a little grey being walked right through it, followed by two others just like it.

The first grey placed a small round metalic looking object that felt cold, to my neck as it began to withdraw my life force from my left side.

Horrible experience.

That was 23 years ago and I cannot forget.

i am sure the sharks would be feasting,and others buried under piles of earth.

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Cosmic M, you make mention of positions of authority embrace the occult. You are correct. That is how they hold power over others and succeed in situations they are accused of where they themselves or someone under their protection breaks laws, where an ordinary person will be prosecuted to the full extent, they will absurdly get off smiling.

Its easier to protect the secret with officials in high places that have the power or access to the power to stop anyone from revealing them. Not all are powerful, just have access to the powerful ones who protect the lower legions.

The same goes with the intertainment industry. To make a star, you have to sell your soul till the time is called.

Business is the same. Try to up start a business following the rules and see how successfull it becomes. Everything in this world is against you unless you embrace the dark powers of success.

Thats why people like bill cooper and the others who revealed that something is running the show, have been rediculed and successfully neutralized.


Occult forces run this world.

Yes, the occult.
They call on and work with the hidden evil entities with the technology.

I have also experienced their 'magick' and will never forget it.
This is proof of their existence and I know WHY they did this to me.



I have also been attacked in many other ways through their hidden technology by their puppets.

Such as:
Acid burning in my eyes for hours, huge radiation burn on my neck and chest, frequency from computer and 'messages' telling me to lay down and close my eyes, tons of sharp knife-like attacks on my brain for 20 minutes, among other major interferences.

I have been messed with for a long time because I exposed many things on other forums.

These are the things I was called for my efforts:

*psycho-analist would rather see her locked up with the key of her cell thrown away
*To me you make the impression of a psycho-sociopath on speed.
*Linda is a third rate PTB whore.
*Actually Linda most of what you write is just rambling diatribe.
*such a bad vive and waste of time
* you don't have anything of substance to offer
*it makes one wonder what is your agenda....
*who is paying you now?
*perhaps you should be investigating what is FOUNDATION X?
*And if you don't break free from them while you have this one chance in a million, your doom will be to spend an eternity in the darkness.
*it's pretty obvious your mind is closed to any rational thought
*enjoy your turkey dinner tomorrow because your next meal of fowl might just be crow.
*Linda I think your are wasting everybodies time
*i get unpleasant energy each time Linda posts sth
*I guess you were absent the day they had literary course at the back of the matchbook PI course you attended.
*you;ll say anything it takes to distract the enlightened souls here from the real enemy
*You're a phony, an antagonist and an agent provocateur
*You stated I was threatening and demeaning. Yes I Am!!
*'Ignore me at your PERIL'
*Yes it's threat!! To expose you're Agenda.
*You are nothing but an agent of the darkness and your time has come!
*Baby YOU CIA!!!!
*To put it very bold; you only f#ck yourself spending so much time & energy on such meaningless BS.
*I feel sympathy, nor do I pitty w@nkers, let alone do I care whether they're dead or alive.
*pschyobabble parasitic
*How twisted a mind can be!
*And when I really can't resist the urge to wipe out a bunch of @ssholes off the surface of this earth, I make sure those corpses won't be found in a million years.

Since they can't find anything or hope to DISTRACT from the topic, they attack the personality.....

oh, she is evil, she eats meat, oh, she is a drama queen, oh, she is 'angry', she has nothing of 'substance' to offer, oh, she has 'issues', she is a 'psycho-sociopath', she is mean, she needs to 'focus' on other 'more' important' things, oh, she is a liar, oh, the 'way' she presents evidence is wrong, she is 'overdoing' herself, she is 'wasting' her 'talents' on this subject, she is an agent provocateur, she is distracting the enlightened souls, she should be locked up with the key thrown away, she is polluting the air, she is an energy vampire, she is offloading her toxic spew, she is 'wasting' bandwidth space, she acts like a pampered pet, she makes 'ridiculous speculations', she needs to be BANNED, everybody hates her, she needs to SHUT UP and not expose Mel and Clif because they are good people and don't deserve this type of BS. ....so what if they are not 'perfect', they deserve to be paid for all their hard work that is a 'labor of love'
AND she is a TROLL,.........etc. etc...

Plus, I get followed around and stalked.....I am sure there are others here who have experienced this.

I refuse to be bothered by these paid shills who work for and are deceived by the dark side...
We are stronger than they are.
And 'they' know that.

I am sure the shills will enter this thread now.

I have to leave and when they get here, please don't respond to any them...because I will remove their posts later tonight.

Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.
We are the ones they fear.
Hang in there and stand strong.

Here you go: [link to www.realreptilian.com]

David dIcke talks about the missing children all the time. He thinks that the illuminati have operations of stealing children and performing rituals with them. The children are special and somehow when used in ritual, the demons that the illuminati operate for, are able to manifest by using the fear and terror the the children produce. Some form of energy that is not exactly palpable for us, but they feed off it.

Collier mentioned that they induce a human to die, and after the soul departs the body a reptillian soul enters and then they revive the body.
This is related to why there can be so many now.

Thanks,
We have nothing to fear

I swear sometimes I am invisible because people fail to see me and will bump into me while in stores. I know I do make people uncomfortable and they show it when in my presense.

I like to do the following when in a store. I sense the matrix sometimes and will stop walking, turn to a store shelf and pretend I am looking at something. Someone will come along and stop behind me and look at me and what I am looking at.

I remain still till they move on. I will turn to look and they will be peeking back as they walk on.

I have found the occult forces activate people into obstructing my presense when out in public. I remain home almost all the time so not to be confronted by it. My sister usualy buys my food.


I have spirits constantly in my bedroom. My house sometimes is so filled with spirit its like a cloud in the house.

I have also heard about such things.

Does anybody remember a few years ago that guy called Kevin who use to frequent forums and try to warn everyone that we were being 'replaced'?

Everyone called him a wacko, etc.
Something made me think that he was sincere and I paid attention.
Since then, I have noticed 'strange' people and speaking for myself, I have also seen some of my friends and own family 'change'.

There is something very sinister going on and many of us can FEEL it.

We're in a spiritual war for the actual survival of us, the true humans.


A listing of the archetypes:
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
Note that the Reptilians control the U.S., Russia and Europe, but that the Mantis control China. Pay attention.

"Adam I and Adam II":
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

Humans existing with dinosaurs:
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

How to take out The Matrix:
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
What I've figured out is that these Negative Reptilians can't exist here at all unless we produce them from our own programmed (and perverted by them) thinking, or self-concepts. Mainly, our very concept of ourselves is false, it's what I call "The False Ego". This is our perception that we are truely our ordinary everyday selves, pretty much helpless and dealing constantly with survival issues. We've been taught these lies by our reptilian overlords, because they are very much in need of this for their very existence on this plane.

New Energies Coming In:
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
The negative non-humans won't be able to survive the higher energies, which are either coming from space or Earth is entering them, or both.

Earth has been, for thousands of years, in a "Free Will Zone" of space, where ANYTHING is permitted. It's now leaving that area.

There have been artificial timeline splits. Some that I know of:
The Crucifixion
The Philadelphia Experiment
1976

Anyway, there are three simultaneous splits coming up, NOT ARTIFICIAL.
I'd "got" this years ago, received confimation recently from my friend Harold, who came up with the same information.
[link to www.nobledreams.co.uk]
Got this today from my friend, Harold. IMO, he's "right-on". I've written before that only a percentage of us are true humans and that there's a timeline split coming up. And I've ranted away about CERN for some time. Also have written about the split coming up and that at that time Earth itself will go through a sort of mitosis, popping up a copy or two in other dimensions.

I think that I was shown the "1000 Years of Peace Timeline" in a Winter Solstice meditation, so I'm assuming that's where I'm headed. This is the middle group. (However. it would be nice to think that I was shown the first group..). I saw a time of chaos (now) followed by the most fabulous world you could imagine, and this lasted for a VERY long time, maybe thousands of our years.

So his independant work is confirmation.

By Harold:
QUOTE
The Split

I've been dowsing into the coming time line split for months. This multiple split is why you'll hear of so many different versions/visions of the immediate future. I'm getting that there will be 3 main ones. In all potentials, lucy-fur will be set in a corner to contemplate his going overboard with his assignment; so he's finally out of the mix. All time lines will notice that people are missing.

There's no way that this text can be perfectly correct, but I feel that this will help to expand our understandings to correctly feed into the coming details as those potentials appear.

Remember, we're just learning about quantum thinking/existing in the past few decades, and we're absolute rookies at this quantum stuff compared to who else is out there. We're in an existence (though holographic and impermanent) where evils prevail in 3D/4D, and where there's bad guys here who have been quantum creating in these parts for eons. Some of all this mess is explained in the book spoken of in the attachment.

This text is just something to work with for a number of months, though I've been told that the split will be somewhat different from what I understand as parallel time lines. Here's what I've found for now:

1) The Accelerated Ascension time line: About 104 million real humans will have this 70* to 90* tilted and radically cleansed planet in a different orbit who will do the personally-painful cellular cleansing for 8 to 13 months; leading to the higher selves moving from 6D to 7D; bodies/minds moving from 4D consciousness to 5D consciousness (beyond time and space). During the process, those millions will be sheltered, clothed and fed by their accelerated learning of quantum creating.

New information says that during the personal cellular cleanse, those millions will be able to read each other’s minds, which to me sounds more difficult than not being able to do that right at the start.

Portions of other highly advanced civilizations in this galaxy (and within galaxies in this universe) will ascend after we set the pace with our progress. They're watching closely. All of this will complete sometime in 2013.

2) The 1000 Years of Peace time line: This will be folks without a severe planet tilt, more similar to the I Am America map (attachment #2); probably with a broken mechanical infrastructure; will rebuild/reorganize local social structures; eventually weaning off of fossil fuels with the help of friends who may not be from around these parts. No bad aliens; no social terra-forming commanded from places unknown; expanded but limited (at the start) contact with friends in cloaked ships; development of intuition without distraction or impostors; telepathic contact with the devic kingdom and animal consciousnesses.

These people will most likely create the 3D/4D paradise that we've always envisioned; the paradise that we know we had the potential to create here. There will likely be a dozen different versions of this time line; coming back together when the vibrations of the lower divisions rise their higher potentials. There are millions of individuals here who will traverse many of these divisions who will assist in bringing these 12 divisions back together,

3) This group will still have the controlling reptoids as their hidden masters. Clones, hybrids, androids, and those without souls who are hereditary down-linked from the reptoids-breeding-with-humans, etc., will comprise over half of the populace. There will be even less of a planet tilt in this time line. Martial law will be here.

The main reason for the construction of CERN particle physics lab in Europe (and a few smaller ones like it) [link to public.] web.cern. ch/public/ is to attempt to pull as many people as possible into this time line. CERN is nothing less than a psionics unit that will amplify quantum intention when the 3 days of darkness arrive per the thick wall of photons, which the controllers of Earth will try to quantum-direct into drawing as many real people as possible into this time line. The remaining bad aliens will be psychically quantum-intending this result along with the Earth controllers. There may be a number of off-shoots within this parallel, many well-constructed pockets that accommodate any variety of religious idealisms or other nose-ringed belief systems.

The humans ending up here are the most arrogant and close minded, and apparently need more abuse before they realize that they are mere slaves, toys and 4D-energetic feeding troughs. (I can see a number of my former employers here.) Everybody gets an infinite amount of time to understand their existence, to eventually desire permanent contact with Creator.

In the interim, until the split, it is probably important that we don't argue sternly about these matters. Just contemplating this issue is sure to take our consciousnesses to more tender territory and we should be mindful to not be disruptive while engaged with some higher frequencies. If you have a concern that you feel you may be going to a parallel that you'd rather not go to, then please discuss it with your higher self and Creator, and not argue it with your neighbor. Keep yourself from sinking into fear on this matter, as that may be a weight that keeps you tendered to a place that you wouldn't prefer.

Chances are good that if you're reading this, you won't be off to spend a couple of more eons with the bad reptoids. But if you are reading this and are very tempted to tell me what a kook I am, well then, I do bid you farewell. You'll never miss me; you'll be all too busy, all too soon enough.

For some time now I've been meaning to write something about my research on all this. With the effort I've put into this, I couldn't help sending it to any or everyone else in this quadrant who may listen to me. And coming from me, you can bet that the traitors at the NSA and the NRO are reading this too. Now that all these folks have your email, if any of them bug you to tell you what a nut I am, just tell me who they are and I'll send the flying monkeys after them.
END QUOTE

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[link to www.nobledreams.co.uk]

From an old post of mine at: [link to groups.yahoo.com]

All the dimensions co-exist with 3D "reality". Have we moved into 5D?

Good question. Maybe partially... Look at the level of
consciousness of individuals; if they're still stuck "here", then they
have chosen 3D, and, conversely, if they seem more aware and have a
broader viewpoint, then it's possible that they've moved on to a
higher dimension.

Aside: I've thought for several years that some of our animals, birds
(and bees) have left this 3D world, partly because of human abuse.
It's no secret that the songbirds have declined by over 85% in the
last 30 years, and even the SHARKS are becoming more rare. Antelope
in the West are becoming scarce, when even back in the 80's they were
seen everywhere. Caused by pollution and habitat destruction?
Partly. I haven't read anything about plants disappearing, but that
doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Frogs are leaving, too. When the cetaceans disappear, the game is
almost over.

See, I believe that Earth is going through a kind of mitosis, but will
split into two very different entities, one still in 3D and another in
a higher dimension. The humans who refuse to raise their
consciousness (and almost all of them have had over 70,000
incarnations to learn the drill) will stay, by their choice, in 3D, in
the ruined 3D world we are now creating. Others, again, by choice,
will be found in the higher dimensional Earth. Even the Bible
mentions this - see there are many truths there, buried in the disinfo
put in place by our lizard-buddies.

So drink the "DAWN WATER" folks, and raise your consciousness!
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com] … p;#entry37

Even if this mitosis takes another 50 or 100 years to complete, Earth
is now moving into a part of space, or being hit with "rays" (oh, THAT
again...) which are of a higher frequency, for want of a better word.
Those who are not aligned with that higher rate will simply not
exist, at least in that particular "reality".

Back to the 3D world of the mitosis: This present world is, indeed, a
"prison planet" and has been in "lock-down" for tens of thousands of
years. This "lock down" could NOT have taken place unless the
consciousness of humanity was low enough to permit it.

Genetic manipulation? Maybe... But, consider that our very genetics
are such a mix of various ET critters, that maybe we were created by
manipulation? Just wondering. However, I DO NOT buy Sitchen's
proposal that we were created by the Anunnaki. Some maybe, but not
ALL of us. See:
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

And read Michael Harner concerning the reptilian claims to having been
our creators:
[link to deoxy.org]
and my memories of dealing with these critters:
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

(Aside: I just watched the Alix Collier videos. He's about 99%
correct, which is a LOT more than you can say about other information
on the subject, Stewart Swerdlow, for one.
[link to www.thelightside.org] )

So what will be different about "The New Heavens and the New Earth"?
All the Star Beings who volunteered to come here to help out, to be
the leaven for VERY soggy bread, will not be present in the 3D world
after the mitosis split. They've had enough. Some have incarnated
here thousands of times, and, for their trouble, were laughed at,
ignored, and usually tortured and killed, often by the very folks they
were trying to help.

Now, understand that we are ALL "star-beings", but the greater number,
perhaps, were put here to be given MANY last chances to learn to
behave themselves. It's not a simple scenario; souls here on Earth
now have often spent several VERY tough lifetimes on Saturn (I'm one)
or Uranus to learn to "shape up", so we're looking at things more
galactically than just from Earth perspective.

Aren't you glad you asked?

love,
lorae

bump

[link to www.gsick.com]

This thread will not work for me. I can't get past page 4.

SUPER THREAD OP....

This question has plagued me for years. WHY ?

Thanks AC.
What do you mean you can't get past page 4?

I know what you mean and it has been said he was made to film snuff films in bohemian groves. The stories I have heard about Jeff Gannon and bohemian groves go hand and hand with what the op is saying.

It says bs flag under her avatar........

Is that all you do is plant bs flags?

Last Edited by YoU~€iT¥ <aka> abe on 03/21/2011 05:19 AM

I don't have a clue about any of the things you brought up initially OP, but I myself did find myself asking the exact same question last week about the bodies. I mentioned it to my friend and she said the Japanese probably are just more respectful. I'm sure that's true but the rest of the world's media are not necessarily that way.

I don't want to see bodies but I have found it odd that there was no sign of them.

What was strangest of all is that through all the video I watched of the tsunami and such I never saw one person getting sucked under. It was like everything was a ghost town. Empty cars empty houses. For a few days I had just assumed everyone had been evacuated... but then I learned that the tsunami hit in only 7 minutes, so obviously there was no time to evacuate. In Sumatra and New Orleans there were so many dead that it was evident all over the place, as you would expect it would be for such a major disaster.

It felt like watching the nuclear tests from the 50's where they set up the fake towns with nobody really there and then blew them away.

The more I think about it I guess I don't even know why it came into my head to ask where all the bodies are, but clearly I am not the only one who has felt like something was very strange about it.

That's funny, I read about the pied piper of Hamlin a few days ago. Which may have been the same day as the AC's post.

Mental note, pied piper of Hamlin.

Are you kidding me?

I see more and more real dead bodies on tv every day.

National Geographic or the History channel has a show about gangs and all they show is dead bodies. Very gruesome stuff. Stuff they would have never showed when I was younger.

I have never been abducted, but thought I would share this lecture from Joe Jordan in case it may help someone.

This experience has a detrimental effect on people’s lives. It is a terrifying experience to those that report it. Lives have been destroyed. Family relationships have been destroyed.
To live with the idea that they cannot control what is happening to them is devastating.
They cannot even ask for help from friends, family or the medical profession because of ridicule, which only intensifies their situation.

Nick Redfern interviewed Joe while doing research for his recent book and respects his findings.

Joe Jordan is the President and co-founder of CE4 Research Group, an Alien Abduction investigation and research team based out of Cocoa, Florida.

He has been a Mutual UFO Network Field Investigator since 1992. He has shared his research findings from his Alien Abduction investigations through many radio shows, newspaper and magazine articles, DVD’s, and lectures.
His research findings on Alien Abductions have been written about in twelve different authored books over the past decade.

He has spoken during six Roswell UFO Festivals in Roswell, New Mexico, including the 60th Anniversary Conference in 2007.
CE4 Research Group has been the Investigative arm of AlienResistance.org, a clearing house website covering the Biblical view on the UFO phenomenon.

Research polls through the years have shown that upwards of 5 million people may have experienced some form of this phenomenon.

During the investigations into the experiencers case testimonies, CE4 Research Group found something really remarkable.
They found that some of these Christian Alien Abduction experiencers had been able to stop or even terminate the experience from their lives.
The most fascinating finding was that this was even possible. And there was a commonality amongst the experiencers in the way that they were able to do this.

This is something that the worlds leading researchers in this field of investigation publicly say is not possible. But the findings of CE4 Research Group show otherwise.

When questioned off the record, many of these leading world researchers admit they themselves have come across similar cases.

The question arises, why have they not shared these findings also?

Could it be because of what the consequences might be if they did share?
Might it change their preconceived notions of the Alien Abduction and UFO experience?

Is there a hidden agenda that this research might expose?

If these are the researchers that we are relying on for the truth, why are they not sharing everything with us?

When attempting to put together the Alien Abduction and UFO puzzle, wouldn’t you want all of the pieces of the puzzle brought to the table?

Even if the puzzle pieces were to show a different picture than you might have expected?
Honest research DEMANDS that all the pieces are to be included for an honest answer.

We have attempted to bring our piece of the puzzle to the table. We have been met with hostile resistance from the research community in this process.

If you are honestly seeking answers to this strange phenomenon, please ask yourself, why is this happening?
Why can’t you see all of the puzzle pieces?

Please be open to all of the research findings. You can’t make an honest decision if you don’t look at ALL of the research that’s been done by ALL researchers.

You must demand from the researchers that refuse to allow all the pieces of the puzzle to be shared, whether they like what the research shows or not.




"In dealing with the mystery of UFO's, we are not on the lunatic fringe of theology.
Instead, we stand on your behalf in front line of battle. We are in defensive warfare at a major point of assault on humanity."

Dr. David Allen Lewis, Author, UFO: End Time Delusion