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More sad lessons from Chernobyl:

verysad

Be especially alert for the increased risks to young children.


“Thyroid cancer and the children
Most people around the world have forgotten the events of 1986. People in the area, however, are reminded of the nuclear accident whenever they look at their children and youth. The children are often behind in their growth, have poor dental health, immune disorders, and have a 10 times higher than normal rate of thyroid cancer.”

“Dr. Virginia LiVolsa of the University of Pennsylvania Medical Center, who has studied the thyroid cancer patients from the affected countries, found that more than 40 percent of the patients were children 4 years old or younger at the time of the accident. "The group at maximum risk is those exposed to high radiation levels when they were younger than 5 years," Dr. LiVolsa stated in a Reuters interview.

"This is the age when the thyroid gland is most sensitive to ionizing radiation."


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“Two Norwegian researchers have found radiation from the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear power station could have influenced the intelligence levels of unborn children.”

“Chernobyl’s reactor 4 exploded early on 26 April, releasing enormous amounts of radioactive particles into the atmosphere that were dispersed over a wide area. Worst hit in Norway were the mountainous regions of Midt-Norge.


The results have been published in the latest edition of the Scandinavian Journal of Psychology.”

“Adolescents exposed to low-dose ionizing radiation in the uterus scored significantly lower in full-scale IQ than unexposed adolescents.”

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This should only be used if other valid and proven sources are unavailable (I personally have KI pills to use since I am within 10 miles of a nuclear plant regularly). I do keep a bottle of 10% in my medical kit, though that is generally TOO strong for most regular medical topical applications imo

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Topical Iodine Applications

There has been some interesting research, though, with both humans and dogs into topically (on the skin) applied Povidone-Iodine (10%) solution (such as Betadine� or Povidex� solutions), and also with tincture of iodine, to test the absorption rates of iodine directly through the skin. But, it was found not to be as quick in providing thyroid blocking as oral Potassium Iodide (KI) or KIO3, nor as consistent, and then, often, at lower levels of protection. Questions remain of skin irritation, determining the amount of Iodine solution to apply, where best to apply it, how long to apply it, and the effects of temperature and humidity on absorption through the skin. Also, insufficient testing has been done on specific groups, such as infants, children, and pregnant and nursing women to know how effective it would be and the full range of complications that could be expected with repeated applications. For instance, the skin absorption of iodine products in neonates with inhibition of thyroid function has been documented in the past. The use of Povidone-Iodine is the most frequent cause of this type of intoxication. Another study showed that Povidone-Iodine did not significantly influence neonatal thyroid function if they were used to a full term neonate only once and even to a wide skin surface.

Another source, non-medical, claims that by using the stronger 7% tincture iodine and just dipping the index finger of the person being treated up to the first knuckle (just above the fingernail) would provide the proper dosing. They claim this would work for all people as our fingers are roughly proportionate to our size and weight. That may be true, but that this technique would actually provide sufficient quantity and effective absorption of iodine for thyroid-blocking has not been verified. (Additional documentation and source references have been requested of that author. And, will be promptly posted here if provided.)

Clearly more research is needed before embracing the topically applied techniques as a one-size-fits-all solution, as its limitations must first be more fully understood. However...

According to research by Health Physicist Ken Miller, Hershey Medical Center, using 24 healthy adult male subjects, an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination. The abstract of his study titled "Effectiveness of Skin Absorption of Tincture of I in Blocking Radioiodine from the Human Thyroid Gland" from Health Physics, June 1989, Vol. 56, No. 6, pages 911-914, (To read abstract, search the title of the article here) states:

"Although there were large variations within each subject group in regard to serum-I levels and thyroid uptakes, the increase in serum-I concentration after topical-I application was effective in reducing the thyroid uptake of I131. The authors conclude that in the absence of KI, most humans would benefit from topical application of tincture of-I, and that in some the effectiveness would equal that of oral KI."

quote is a little over 3/4 of the way down on this very long web page www. KI4U.com
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This should only be used if other valid and proven sources are unavailable (I personally have KI pills to use since I am within 10 miles of a nuclear plant regularly). I do keep a bottle of 10% in my medical kit, though that is generally TOO strong for most regular medical topical applications imo

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Topical Iodine Applications

There has been some interesting research, though, with both humans and dogs into topically (on the skin) applied Povidone-Iodine (10%) solution (such as Betadine� or Povidex� solutions), and also with tincture of iodine, to test the absorption rates of iodine directly through the skin. But, it was found not to be as quick in providing thyroid blocking as oral Potassium Iodide (KI) or KIO3, nor as consistent, and then, often, at lower levels of protection. Questions remain of skin irritation, determining the amount of Iodine solution to apply, where best to apply it, how long to apply it, and the effects of temperature and humidity on absorption through the skin. Also, insufficient testing has been done on specific groups, such as infants, children, and pregnant and nursing women to know how effective it would be and the full range of complications that could be expected with repeated applications. For instance, the skin absorption of iodine products in neonates with inhibition of thyroid function has been documented in the past. The use of Povidone-Iodine is the most frequent cause of this type of intoxication. Another study showed that Povidone-Iodine did not significantly influence neonatal thyroid function if they were used to a full term neonate only once and even to a wide skin surface.

Another source, non-medical, claims that by using the stronger 7% tincture iodine and just dipping the index finger of the person being treated up to the first knuckle (just above the fingernail) would provide the proper dosing. They claim this would work for all people as our fingers are roughly proportionate to our size and weight. That may be true, but that this technique would actually provide sufficient quantity and effective absorption of iodine for thyroid-blocking has not been verified. (Additional documentation and source references have been requested of that author. And, will be promptly posted here if provided.)

Clearly more research is needed before embracing the topically applied techniques as a one-size-fits-all solution, as its limitations must first be more fully understood. However...

According to research by Health Physicist Ken Miller, Hershey Medical Center, using 24 healthy adult male subjects, an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination. The abstract of his study titled "Effectiveness of Skin Absorption of Tincture of I in Blocking Radioiodine from the Human Thyroid Gland" from Health Physics, June 1989, Vol. 56, No. 6, pages 911-914, (To read abstract, search the title of the article here) states:

"Although there were large variations within each subject group in regard to serum-I levels and thyroid uptakes, the increase in serum-I concentration after topical-I application was effective in reducing the thyroid uptake of I131. The authors conclude that in the absence of KI, most humans would benefit from topical application of tincture of-I, and that in some the effectiveness would equal that of oral KI."

quote is a little over 3/4 of the way down on this very long web page www. KI4U.com
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Thanks for the additional information!
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Since the building around the no. 3 reactor is now a pile of molten beams, this may be good info to keep handy. A very high spike in rad count in Denver this morning disappered very quickly and that sensor is no longer on line. If you are on the west coast or in the center of the country you should get a radiation meter if you can afford it. The old CD radiation survey meters are better than nothing, and are fairly inexpensive on Ebay. Make sure you get one has been tested, because a lot of 60 year old hardware is no longer functional. The CD meters are no where near as sensitive as the new ones, and are harder to use. But for the difference in price, like I said, it's better than nothing. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst!
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Since the building around the no. 3 reactor is now a pile of molten beams, this may be good info to keep handy. A very high spike in rad count in Denver this morning disappered very quickly and that sensor is no longer on line. If you are on the west coast or in the center of the country you should get a radiation meter if you can afford it. The old CD radiation survey meters are better than nothing, and are fairly inexpensive on Ebay. Make sure you get one has been tested, because a lot of 60 year old hardware is no longer functional. The CD meters are no where near as sensitive as the new ones, and are harder to use. But for the difference in price, like I said, it's better than nothing. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst!
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Thanks for the bump.

This is absolutely critical information that people are desperate to have but can't easily find on their own.

Here is a thread from a mom in California so happy to have some of this information.

Thread: Cesium-137 and Strontium-90

We need to keep this available where people can find it. I am doing my best, but help is always appreciated.

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Thanks..but I'll die of old age reading all that first anyway
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LOL, sorry.
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Maybe print it and read it later. I tried to make it fairly complete.
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you did a great job... thank you for this potentially life-saving information... you didn't have to take the time you did for someone to say something so stupid...as far as people being able to read through it...where there's a will, there's a way and some people just like to complain or simply can't read or concentrate on anything longer than 30 seconds... a product of the Sesame Street generation.... I wouldn't even acknowledge such ridiculous comments if it were me... thanks again.

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Dont forget about Reishi - really look it up powerful stuff ... will take the toxins out !







Dear GLPers,

While we don't seem to know for certain what our possible risk from radiation exposure will be, wherever you live, being knowledgeable in advance allows one to make informed choices and decisions. While I do not think that anyone should panic, this list is supplied for those who wish to be proactive rather than counting on governmental institutions to have the interest of the common citizen as their first priority rather than damage control, protecting their own personal interests, or PR.

I composed the following list of dietary supplements that may be of benefit against various types of radiation, both as a prophylaxis and a treatment. This list was composed at the request of family members, but I thought I would share it with you.

There are references following the list, but in a few key instances, I have included the references with the supplement when I thought there might be greater interest. Full articles are available from pubmed for a fee, but the abstracts are posted as they are free.

Please be alert that doses for Adults and children may be radically different, and persons with health conditions such as kidney disease, liver disease, or other serious medical conditions should always consult with their personal health care provider before using any supplements. Also if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, discuss any supplements with your health care provider before using them.

If anyone wants to add anything else, feel free.


Protection from radiation summary:

Calcium - Blocks uptake of stronium-90. Adults may take 1500 mg daily.

Calcium iodate: -another effective blocker of radioiodine uptake by the thyroid gland. From the study listed below: "Ca(IO3)2 is permitted by the FDA as a food additive and is "generally regarded as safe" (GRAS, CFR No.1206). We have also compared the efficacy of Ca(IO3)2 with KIO3 in blocking thyroidal uptake of radioiodine, which could be important considering the better shelf life of Ca(IO3). The results of the present study provide us with evidence that Ca(IO3)2 can serve as another promising radioiodine blocker, and is as equipotent as KI/KIO3 in protecting the thyroid gland. We have not found any studies that examined the property of Ca(IO3)2 in blocking radioiodine uptake by the thyroid gland and the present study is an attempt in this direction."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Iron - Blocks the uptake of plutonium. Too much iron can be toxic, especially for children. Don't overdose on this one. Adults take up to 300 mg daily if no medical problems, and iron deficient children may receive 4 to 6 mg/kg elemental iron daily in 3 divided doses. A fatal dose for children could be as little as 600 mg so this is one to consult your pediatrician on.

Potassium - Reduces uptake of cesium-137. Adults may take up to 100 mg daily, unless they have decreased renal or kidney function. In that case, the dose should be decreased or avoided. Eating potassium rich foods, like meat broths is usually still OK, even with decreased renal function.

Zinc - Reduces uptake of radioactive zinc-65. The recommended dose is 100 mg per day in adults unless medical conditions prohibit.

Vitamin B12 - Suppresses the uptake of cobalt-60. Adults may take up to 9 mg a day. Doses as high as 40 mg daily have shown no adverse effects.

Chlorella - High in vitamin B12. Helps detoxify and get rid of heavy metals and other toxic elements etc. (some may be allergic, test for stomach upset).

Spirulina: 5 grams of spirulina a day for 45 days detoxifies radiation in both adults and children with little known harmful side effects and was used following the Chernobyl disaster .

Magnesium - Always take with other supplements to help with absorption. A good way to absorb magnesium is with an Epson salts bath or foot soak so that it does not cause GI upset.

Cod liver oil - For the Retinol, Vitamin D3, Omega 3 DHA/EPA etc. Helps fortify the body and prevent damage due to toxins etc. Adults may take up to 1-3 tablespoons daily.

Flaxseed oil: The protection afforded by flaxseed oil may be attributed to the constituents of the oil, which include omega-3 essential fatty acids and phytoestrogenic lignans, which appear to play an important role in free radical scavenging and singlet oxygen quenching. There is not an accepted dosage for flaxseed oil; doses ranging from 40 mg to 300 mg have been used daily in adults.

Potassium Iodide (KI) : Blocks uptake of radioactive Iodine 131. Adults 130 mg/day. Must start before or immediately upon exposure. Children between 3 -18 years of age should take one-half of a 130-mg tablet (65 mg). Children between 1 month and 3 years of age should take 1/4 of a 130-mg tablet (32 mg).Infants from birth to 1 month of age should be given 1/8 of a 130-mg tablet (16 mg). Women who are breastfeeding should take the adult dose, and their infants should receive the recommended infant dose. Children who are approaching adult size (greater than or equal to 150 pounds) should take the adult dose regardless of their age. Do not use unless you know that you are being exposed or about to be exposed to dangerous levels of radiation.

An adult dose for potassium iodate (KIO3) is 170 mg per day during and preceeding exposure.

Melatonin: Helps to protect from damage due to ionizing radiation. Adults may take up to 9 mg a day. Start before exposure. There is also evidence for protection of the testes from radiation in rats. (Stock up now guys!) [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Vitamin E: Studies have reported vitamin E to protect against some of the toxicities of ionizing radiation Adults may use 1,000-2,000 IU per day.

Vitamin C: Shows protective effect from ionizing radiation. 1,000-5000 mg daily may be taken by adults. Use caution if a history of kidney stones.

Vitamin D3: Boosts immune system, helping to prevent infections and is a powerful anti-inflammatory. Adults may safely take 2000-5000 IU daily.


Selenium: This is an anti-oxidant with activity as a free radical scavenger. Populations with high blood selenium levels are found to have lower death rates due to cancer. Selenium toxicity can occur and the dose of selenium should be close to 100 MICROGRAMS (not milligrams) per day in adults.

Garlic: Either several cloves raw, or 1000 mg daily for adults helps the immune system and garlic was also shown to protect mice from ionizing radiation by a Cobalt 60 source.

Turmeric or Curcumin: Found to be effective in protecting the cells against radiation-induced suppression of glutathione peroxidase, catalase and superoxide dismutase (SOD) activities. This is used in many curry dishes, and may be safely ingested by adults and children. This is particularly important to use before exposure to protect the lymphocytes (blood cells).

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Aloe Vera: Helps to protect and heal skin from radiation burns.

Horseradish: is high in superoxide dismutase (SOD) which plays a role in radioprotective response by inhibiting the initiation of a superoxide anion-induced ROS cascade leading to enhanced mitochondrial and nuclear damages.

Resveratrol: Resveratrol is found in grapes and is potentially an effective protecting agent and was shown to be capable of alleviating gamma-ray radiation exposure. Grapes, grape juice or resveratrol supplements may be safely consumed by adults and children in recommended dosages as long as there is not an allergy. Adult dose is 300-1000 mg daily.

Lycopene: Lycopene is found in tomatoes, and there is evidence that pretreatment with lycopene offers protection to normal lymphocytes against gamma-radiation-induced cellular damage. Tomato products may be safely consumed by adults and children as long as they are not allergic to them. Adult dose is 10-30 mg daily.

Alpha-lipoic acid: Is a nontoxic but effective radioprotector and it is reported that alpha-lipoic acid confers considerable radio-protective effect in mouse tissues when given prior to x-irradiation. It also helps to protect the neural tissue from radiation injury. Adults may safely consume 300 mg daily unless there is an allergy or medical problem.

Miso soup: "People who eat miso regularly may be up to five times more resistant to radiation than those who do not eat miso. That is the conclusion of a team of researchers at Hiroshima University’s atomic bomb radiation research center."
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I also wanted to get this information up as it is an alternative to oral KI or KIO3.

Don’t drink the Lugols solution or betadine as both are toxic when taken orally, but to paint on your skin. Lugols solution and betadine are both still readily available!

According to research by Ken Miller, health physicist at the Hershey Medical Center, using 24 healthy adult male test subjects he found that an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination.

Although there were large variations within each subject group in regard to serum-I levels and thyroid uptakes, the increase in serum-I concentration after topical-I application was effective in reducing the thyroid uptake of I131. The authors conclude that in the absence of KI, most humans would benefit from topical application of tincture of-I, and that in some the effectiveness would equal that of oral KI.

Don’t try to drink or swallow iodine such as iodine water purification tablets, tincture of iodine, or Povidone-iodine solutions (like the Betadine® brand solution). If you do that you are going to get sick because iodine is a poison. That’s why iodine bottles are marked poisonous!

The abstract of his study is titled "Effectiveness of Skin Absorption of Tincture of I in Blocking Radioiodine from the Human Thyroid Gland" from Health Physics, June 1989, Vol. 56, No. 6, pages 911-914.

Although the amount given is for an adult male, around 160-170 lbs, I don’t see why a proportionate amount could not be used on the skin of a child as long as they could not lick it off (maybe place on the skin of the lower back). We use Betadine surgical prep on babies or very young children, so it would not be contraindicated as a topical application unless there is an allergy.

So in essence, 8 ml of a 2% solution for an adult male would be 4ml for someone weighing around 85 lbs, 2 ml for someone around 40 lbs, 1 ml for someone around 20 lbs and ½ ml for someone around 10 lbs.
Betadine surgical prep is readily available in feed and supply stores for animal use, so as long as the animal couldn’t lick it off and it was in a non-hair area (painted inside the ear flaps in rabbits or dogs) it might also work for pets.

Just my supposition, FWIW. If in doubt check with a pediatrician or veterinarian.
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NICE post, emerald eyes. I put one up late this afternoon, not realizing you had done one yesterday. Yours is so much better with EXTRA links and explainations, etc.

Mine was from over the weekend from two different threads, that I jotted down for personal use and children/grandchildren/neighbors. Abbreviated, but hit the 'high points.

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Thanks..but I'll die of old age reading all that first anyway
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LOL, sorry.
hf

Maybe print it and read it later. I tried to make it fairly complete.
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you did a great job... thank you for this potentially life-saving information... you didn't have to take the time you did for someone to say something so stupid...as far as people being able to read through it...where there's a will, there's a way and some people just like to complain or simply can't read or concentrate on anything longer than 30 seconds... a product of the Sesame Street generation.... I wouldn't even acknowledge such ridiculous comments if it were me... thanks again.

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Thanks!

I hope this helps some, especially those with children, whever in the world they may be. blwkss
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Thanks Op! hf

Did you mention Bladderwrack?
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or Braggs Organic Apple Cider vinegar?
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Thanks OP. I think this should definitely be pinned.

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Thanks OP. I think this should definitely be pinned.
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Thanks so much.

I am working on the research to add a couple of more items to the list.

If they are backed up by some type of scientific study I will add them, but if they are not they will not be added.

I am trying to stick to things that have some type of hard evidence to support their use.
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THANK YOU, OP...you have a great thread going here :))) I voted to pin this! xoxo
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THANK YOU, OP...you have a great thread going here :))) I voted to pin this! xoxo
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Thanks so much!flowas
I think this thread would have gotten more attention if I would have said something like "Look at my tits!! rofland had a couple of dancing bananas bdancebananain the ALL CAPS headline"

Kinda sad when you stop and think about it. hmm
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Dear GLPers,


I know this is great for those who want to survive but I'd just rather kick the bucket fast! Dang who has money to buy those supplements and then time to read all this then time to take them as needed yada yada yada
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Dear GLPers,


I know this is great for those who want to survive but I'd just rather kick the bucket fast! Dang who has money to buy those supplements and then time to read all this then time to take them as needed yada yada yada
 Quoting: emerald eye


ummmm....OK

Then don't bother reading.

This thread is for those who not only might like to not be sick and to avoid cancer as much as possible, but also those who hope that their children will be healthy and not have a short miserable life.

Last Edited by emerald eye on 03/21/2011 10:53 PM
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I think this thread would have gotten more attention if I would have said something like "Look at my tits!! rofland had a couple of dancing bananas bdancebananain the ALL CAPS headline"

Kinda sad when you stop and think about it. hmm
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And, of course....
*****BREAKING!*****

Seems like more people here want to just read about doom than actually try to do something about it?
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03/21/2011 10:57 PM

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I think this thread would have gotten more attention if I would have said something like "Look at my tits!! rofland had a couple of dancing bananas bdancebananain the ALL CAPS headline"

Kinda sad when you stop and think about it. hmm
 Quoting: emerald eye


And, of course....
*****BREAKING!*****

Seems like more people here want to just read about doom than actually try to do something about it?
 Quoting: vor


Precisely!scratching
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Hi Pretty Girl!

Thank you for this reference. I am printing this thread :)
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This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
This is where your rope trick
Started to look stale.
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03/21/2011 11:21 PM

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Hi Pretty Girl!

Thank you for this reference. I am printing this thread :)
 Quoting: Only Me


Good for you!

Feel free to share it with friends and family if you like. I will try later tonight to update the inital post so that all of the most important things are on it as a condensed reference.hf

Last Edited by emerald eye on 03/21/2011 11:21 PM
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Hi Pretty Girl!

Thank you for this reference. I am printing this thread :)
 Quoting: Only Me


Good for you!

Feel free to share it with friends and family if you like. I will try later tonight to update the inital post so that all of the most important things are on it as a condensed reference.hf
 Quoting: emerald eye


I truly appreciate the effort you put into this
Here is where I look back.
Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
This is where your rope trick
Started to look stale.
A greyhound pass for the boy in the well.

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Thanks OP!
Great info-
hf
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Thanks everyone

It's getting late and I have a few other things that I must get done yet tonight, so I won't have the updates tonight, but I promise them tomorrow if you would like to check back then.

When I do the updates, I will add them to the original post, as well as to a separate post in the thread for those of you who are just reading the new posts so that you don't need to go back to the beginning if you don't want to.

Also if people just want to print and save the first post rather than read the whole thread, I will make sure that it has all of the best information updated.

I will work on this tomorrow.

Good night everyone. hearts
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We need to keep this up where people can find it. This is very important info.
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They are now saying the vessel is cracked on reactor no. 3. The water is all gone, that's why the pressure is down. If they spray water on it now, it will evaporate before it hits the reactor. With a crack in the vessel, radiation is coming out. If they hit it with water, it will get worse. There will be plenty of radiation in the Air, and it wont stay in Japan, it just a question of where it goes first. If the current weather pattern holds, it will hit North America hard. If the weather pattern changes, like it is supposed to do, the fall-out will go to Australia. They really need more doom in Australia after all the floods down under. I hope everyone has read this post and prepared for the fall-out. It probibly wont get so bad that it kill you right now, but do you really want to die in 10 or 15 years? The children will be most at risk. They need every chance we can give them.
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