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It has been my theory all along that the plutonium and uranium would be too heavy to stay suspended for very long. It may have been more hope than theory, that is what I thought. That is good news for America, but not so much for Japan. When they start detecting plutonium in their water, things will be very bad. Pacific sea food is probably going to be a casualty of this disaster.


Yes, sea food will concentrate the plutonium

“Mollusks will accumulate plutonium in their edible tissues at concentrations 3,000 times higher than the surrounding water, edible seaweed, 2,000 times higher than surrounding water, crustaceans 300 times and fish 40 times.”

[link to books.google.com]


The sea and its little critters will suffer but also help absorb some of the poison.too_sad

This is very very bad for the Japanese, as they have a diet rich is seafood which is normally very healthy.

No more sushi for me...tissue


Their going to have little fishies with eyes popping out all over like the Simpsons movie! But, it will be OK because Barry is monitoring the situation (from South America).
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Here's another one - rosemary:

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

Also - hydrilla, which is similar to spirulina but perhaps even more potent at detoxifying.

For iron consider an herbal liquid, like Floradex (great for pregnant women), or a food-based product like Megafood's BloodBuilder.

Finally, various therapeutic mushrooms are great immune builders and have been used as part of cancer treatment. Check out New Chapter's line, in particular Host Defense.
 Quoting: Fucktard


While pregnant with my son, I took FLORADIX to remedy a low iron titer.
Long story short, TITERS REMAINED LOW ON FLORADIX although I followed directions to the letter and went through 6 bottles of the stuff.

I had no choice but to switch to ferrous fumerate which brought my iron titer to an acceptable level.
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Another post Thread: ^^^BREAKING^^^ Reactor Meltdown Reached Criticality - Worst Case Scenario Happening Now is saying we are at the worst case scenario now. And radiation will be going off the charts soon. Now would be a good time to stock up on radiation supplies. If this thing blows, Japan will glow in the dark. America will be just slightly less radioactive. people who are prepared will have a better chance of long term survival. I hope the assessment is wrong, but being prepared, especially for radioactive iodine, just makes sense right now.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Another post Thread: ^^^BREAKING^^^ Reactor Meltdown Reached Criticality - Worst Case Scenario Happening Now is saying we are at the worst case scenario now. And radiation will be going off the charts soon. Now would be a good time to stock up on radiation supplies. If this thing blows, Japan will glow in the dark. America will be just slightly less radioactive. people who are prepared will have a better chance of long term survival. I hope the assessment is wrong, but being prepared, especially for radioactive iodine, just makes sense right now.
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Yes,

I thought this thread was interesting also:

Thread: IN A FEW HOURS, THE TRUTH ABOUT THE SITUATION AT FUKUSHIMA PLANT WILL BE REVEALED, HERE IS WHY
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Dear GLPers,

While we don't seem to know for certain what our possible risk from radiation exposure will be, wherever you live, being knowledgeable in advance allows one to make informed choices and decisions. While I do not think that anyone should panic, this list is supplied for those who wish to be proactive rather than counting on governmental institutions to have the interest of the common citizen as their first priority rather than damage control, protecting their own personal interests, or PR.

I composed the following list of dietary supplements that may be of benefit against various types of radiation, both as a prophylaxis and a treatment. This list was composed at the request of family members, but I thought I would share it with you.

There are references following the list, but in a few key instances, I have included the references with the supplement when I thought there might be greater interest. Full articles are available from pubmed for a fee, but the abstracts are posted as they are free.

Please be alert that doses for Adults and children may be radically different, and persons with health conditions such as kidney disease, liver disease, or other serious medical conditions should always consult with their personal health care provider before using any supplements. Also if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, discuss any supplements with your health care provider before using them.

If anyone wants to add anything else, feel free.


Protection from radiation summary:

Calcium - Blocks uptake of stronium-90. Adults may take 1500 mg daily.

Calcium iodate: -another effective blocker of radioiodine uptake by the thyroid gland. From the study listed below: "Ca(IO3)2 is permitted by the FDA as a food additive and is "generally regarded as safe" (GRAS, CFR No.1206). We have also compared the efficacy of Ca(IO3)2 with KIO3 in blocking thyroidal uptake of radioiodine, which could be important considering the better shelf life of Ca(IO3). The results of the present study provide us with evidence that Ca(IO3)2 can serve as another promising radioiodine blocker, and is as equipotent as KI/KIO3 in protecting the thyroid gland. We have not found any studies that examined the property of Ca(IO3)2 in blocking radioiodine uptake by the thyroid gland and the present study is an attempt in this direction."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Iron - Blocks the uptake of plutonium. Too much iron can be toxic, especially for children. Don't overdose on this one. Adults take up to 300 mg daily if no medical problems, and iron deficient children may receive 4 to 6 mg/kg elemental iron daily in 3 divided doses. A fatal dose for children could be as little as 600 mg so this is one to consult your pediatrician on.

Potassium - Reduces uptake of cesium-137. Adults may take up to 100 mg daily, unless they have decreased renal or kidney function. In that case, the dose should be decreased or avoided. Eating potassium rich foods, like meat broths is usually still OK, even with decreased renal function.

Zinc - Reduces uptake of radioactive zinc-65. The recommended dose is 100 mg per day in adults unless medical conditions prohibit.

Vitamin B12 - Suppresses the uptake of cobalt-60. Adults may take up to 9 mg a day. Doses as high as 40 mg daily have shown no adverse effects.

Chlorella - High in vitamin B12. Helps detoxify and get rid of heavy metals and other toxic elements etc. (some may be allergic, test for stomach upset).

Spirulina: 5 grams of spirulina a day for 45 days detoxifies radiation in both adults and children with little known harmful side effects and was used following the Chernobyl disaster. Based on the Institute of Radiation Medicine in Minsk results, the Belarus Ministry of Health concluded that spirulina accelerates the evacuation of radionuclides from the human body.

Magnesium - Always take with other supplements to help with absorption. A good way to absorb magnesium is with an Epson salts bath or foot soak so that it does not cause GI upset.

Cod liver oil - For the Retinol, Vitamin D3, Omega 3 DHA/EPA etc. Helps fortify the body and prevent damage due to toxins etc. Adults may take up to 1-3 tablespoons daily.

Flaxseed oil: The protection afforded by flaxseed oil may be attributed to the constituents of the oil, which include omega-3 essential fatty acids and phytoestrogenic lignans, which appear to play an important role in free radical scavenging and singlet oxygen quenching. There is not an accepted dosage for flaxseed oil; doses ranging from 40 mg to 300 mg have been used daily in adults.

Potassium Iodide (KI) : Blocks uptake of radioactive Iodine 131. Adults 130 mg/day. Must start before or immediately upon exposure. Children between 3 -18 years of age should take one-half of a 130-mg tablet (65 mg). Children between 1 month and 3 years of age should take 1/4 of a 130-mg tablet (32 mg).Infants from birth to 1 month of age should be given 1/8 of a 130-mg tablet (16 mg). Women who are breastfeeding should take the adult dose, and their infants should receive the recommended infant dose. Children who are approaching adult size (greater than or equal to 150 pounds) should take the adult dose regardless of their age. Do not use unless you know that you are being exposed or about to be exposed to dangerous levels of radiation.

An adult dose for potassium iodate (KIO3) is 170 mg per day during and preceeding exposure.

Melatonin: Helps to protect from damage due to ionizing radiation. Adults may take up to 9 mg a day. Start before exposure. There is also evidence for protection of the testes from radiation in rats. (Stock up now guys!) [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Vitamin E: Studies have reported vitamin E to protect against some of the toxicities of ionizing radiation Adults may use 1,000-2,000 IU per day.

Vitamin C: Shows protective effect from ionizing radiation. 1,000-5000 mg daily may be taken by adults. Use caution if a history of kidney stones.

Vitamin D3: Boosts immune system, helping to prevent infections and is a powerful anti-inflammatory. Adults may safely take 2000-5000 IU daily.


Selenium: This is an anti-oxidant with activity as a free radical scavenger. Populations with high blood selenium levels are found to have lower death rates due to cancer. Selenium toxicity can occur and the dose of selenium should be close to 100 MICROGRAMS (not milligrams) per day in adults.

Garlic: Either several cloves raw, or 1000 mg daily for adults helps the immune system and garlic was also shown to protect mice from ionizing radiation by a Cobalt 60 source.

Turmeric or Curcumin: Found to be effective in protecting the cells against radiation-induced suppression of glutathione peroxidase, catalase and superoxide dismutase (SOD) activities. This is used in many curry dishes, and may be safely ingested by adults and children. This is particularly important to use before exposure to protect the lymphocytes (blood cells).

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Aloe Vera: Helps to protect and heal skin from radiation burns.

Horseradish: is high in superoxide dismutase (SOD) which plays a role in radioprotective response by inhibiting the initiation of a superoxide anion-induced ROS cascade leading to enhanced mitochondrial and nuclear damages.

Resveratrol: Resveratrol is found in grapes and is potentially an effective protecting agent and was shown to be capable of alleviating gamma-ray radiation exposure. Grapes, grape juice or resveratrol supplements may be safely consumed by adults and children in recommended dosages as long as there is not an allergy. Adult dose is 300-1000 mg daily.

Lycopene: Lycopene is found in tomatoes, and there is evidence that pretreatment with lycopene offers protection to normal lymphocytes against gamma-radiation-induced cellular damage. Tomato products may be safely consumed by adults and children as long as they are not allergic to them. Adult dose is 10-30 mg daily.

Alpha-lipoic acid: Is a nontoxic but effective radioprotector and it is reported that alpha-lipoic acid confers considerable radio-protective effect in mouse tissues when given prior to x-irradiation. It also helps to protect the neural tissue from radiation injury. Adults may safely consume 300 mg daily unless there is an allergy or medical problem.

Miso soup: "People who eat miso regularly may be up to five times more resistant to radiation than those who do not eat miso. That is the conclusion of a team of researchers at Hiroshima University’s atomic bomb radiation research center."
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I also wanted to get this information up as it is an alternative to oral KI or KIO3.

Don’t drink the Lugols solution or betadine as both are toxic when taken orally, but to paint on your skin. Lugols solution and betadine are both still readily available!

According to research by Ken Miller, health physicist at the Hershey Medical Center, using 24 healthy adult male test subjects he found that an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination.

Although there were large variations within each subject group in regard to serum-I levels and thyroid uptakes, the increase in serum-I concentration after topical-I application was effective in reducing the thyroid uptake of I131. The authors conclude that in the absence of KI, most humans would benefit from topical application of tincture of-I, and that in some the effectiveness would equal that of oral KI.

Don’t try to drink or swallow iodine such as iodine water purification tablets, tincture of iodine, or Povidone-iodine solutions (like the Betadine® brand solution). If you do that you are going to get sick because iodine is a poison. That’s why iodine bottles are marked poisonous!

The abstract of his study is titled "Effectiveness of Skin Absorption of Tincture of I in Blocking Radioiodine from the Human Thyroid Gland" from Health Physics, June 1989, Vol. 56, No. 6, pages 911-914.

Although the amount given is for an adult male, around 160-170 lbs, I don’t see why a proportionate amount could not be used on the skin of a child as long as they could not lick it off (maybe place on the skin of the lower back). We use Betadine surgical prep on babies or very young children, so it would not be contraindicated as a topical application unless there is an allergy.

So in essence, 8 ml of a 2% solution for an adult male would be 4ml for someone weighing around 85 lbs, 2 ml for someone around 40 lbs, 1 ml for someone around 20 lbs and ½ ml for someone around 10 lbs.
Betadine surgical prep is readily available in feed and supply stores for animal use, so as long as the animal couldn’t lick it off and it was in a non-hair area (painted inside the ear flaps in rabbits or dogs) it might also work for pets.

Just my supposition, FWIW. If in doubt check with a pediatrician or veterinarian.
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Geez, why don't we go buy the entire vitamin store while where at it.
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Here's another one - rosemary:

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

Also - hydrilla, which is similar to spirulina but perhaps even more potent at detoxifying.

For iron consider an herbal liquid, like Floradex (great for pregnant women), or a food-based product like Megafood's BloodBuilder.

Finally, various therapeutic mushrooms are great immune builders and have been used as part of cancer treatment. Check out New Chapter's line, in particular Host Defense.
 Quoting: Fucktard


While pregnant with my son, I took FLORADIX to remedy a low iron titer.
Long story short, TITERS REMAINED LOW ON FLORADIX although I followed directions to the letter and went through 6 bottles of the stuff.

I had no choice but to switch to ferrous fumerate which brought my iron titer to an acceptable level.
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Sometimes pregnant women have difficulty in absorbing iron from the gastrointestinal tract.

Some of them even need IM shots of iron to stay fully supplied.

"Slow Fe" is a slow release iron that is sometimes easier to absorb and less likely to cause GI symptoms such as constipation or diarrhea.

[link to www.drugs.com]

Once again, remember that too much iron, especially for children can be toxic. u2efine
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the time to stock up is now btw: [link to www.irsn.fr]
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Geez, why don't we go buy the entire vitamin store while where at it.
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No one will take you serious untill you have learnt the difference between where, were and we´re. tounge
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Geez, why don't we go buy the entire vitamin store while where at it.
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No one will take you serious untill you have learnt the difference between where, were and we´re. tounge
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Coming from the one who can't spell "until" correctly, nor use the word "learnt" correctly. lol
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OP: amazing info, thanks
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OP: amazing info, thanks
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You are most welcome.hf


Look folks, I think that this is getting really really bad


"The "Kyodo News" reports the plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company, has spotted a neutron beam 13 separate times at the Fukushima plant.
The beam is a radioactive ray and could be evidence of a more serious leak from nuclear fission."

[link to mystateline.com]




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BTW
To those of you don't want to do anything to protect yourself and those you love and are making comments like needing to "buy the vitamin store out" it's cool. peace

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You are to be commended for your contribution for Health and Hope, Emerald Eye. Your humanitatian approach to this serious problem says much about your love and concern for your fellowman. May you and your loved ones benefit from your kindness!!
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You are to be commended for your contribution for Health and Hope, Emerald Eye. Your humanitatian approach to this serious problem says much about your love and concern for your fellowman. May you and your loved ones benefit from your kindness!!
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gee thanks!hf

If I have time later tonight I plan to re-work the thread a bit, and condense all of the most useful information into the first few posts so that it is easier to find the most important info.
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I also did the abbreviated version of this thread here:


Thread: FIVE EASY THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF IF EXPOSED TO DANGEROUS RADIATION.
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testing to see if I am still banned
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There was some discussion about Prussian blue on the other thread. I have tried to post this information multiple times, and GLP is blocking it, so I thought that I was banned. I am removing some of the links to see if it will post without the links. Apparently this is "sensitive stuff" to somone!


The Prussian blue medical treatment is called “Radiogardase” .
[link to www.semp.us]


As far as I know, it is still only manufactured in Germany and distributed by the Heyltex Corporation:

“The family-owned (HEYL) Chemisch –pharmazeutische Fabrik GmbH & Co. in Germany is the only company currently manufacturing Radiogardase® in the world.”

[link to www.heyltex.com]


Heyltex has a contract with the department of Homeland Security. I do not believe that most pharmacies stock this product, and if they did most physicians without special training would be unaware of its use.

“ The Government intends to award a sole source contract under the authority of FAR Part 6.302-1 to the Heyltex Corporation for the performance of research and development (R&D) to develop a satisfactory method of administering Radiogardase® (Prussian blue) to pediatric subjects (age 0-2) and acquire FDA approval for language in the Radiogardase® package insert that provides for the safe and effective use of the current formulation administered to members of the pediatric population (age 0-2 years) to reduce or eliminate internalized radioactive cesium (e.g., Cs-137) due to ingestion, inhalation, or other routes of exposure.”


Out of curiosity I called two local pharmacies and asked if they had Radiogardase (Prussian blue) and they said no, and that they had no idea of who to order it from
I told them where to order it from...but just like with KI or KIO3, if it is really needed the government will confiscate all supplies, and that is why the pectin is so important as an alternative treatment for radioactive cesium.

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Yep, I had to remove the links to the government information on this....very interesting!!!!



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Otherwise, it won't post on GLP.worship

Thanks angel, that was the problem!!!hf

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ee, it looks like you're back on! I just posted on your other thread about you being banned. GLAD TO SEE YOU ARE OKAY! Let me know if it happens again or if I can help.

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You are to be commended for your contribution for Health and Hope, Emerald Eye. Your humanitatian approach to this serious problem says much about your love and concern for your fellowman. May you and your loved ones benefit from your kindness!!
 Quoting: Grandma Zee 1311471

gee thanks!hf

If I have time later tonight I plan to re-work the thread a bit, and condense all of the most useful information into the first few posts so that it is easier to find the most important info.
 Quoting: emerald eye






this^^ hf
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Dear GLPers,

While we don't seem to know for certain what our possible risk from radiation exposure will be, wherever you live, being knowledgeable in advance allows one to make informed choices and decisions. While I do not think that anyone should panic, this list is supplied for those who wish to be proactive rather than counting on governmental institutions to have the interest of the common citizen as their first priority rather than damage control, protecting their own personal interests, or PR.

I composed the following list of dietary supplements that may be of benefit against various types of radiation, both as a prophylaxis and a treatment. This list was composed at the request of family members, but I thought I would share it with you.

There are references following the list, but in a few key instances, I have included the references with the supplement when I thought there might be greater interest. Full articles are available from pubmed for a fee, but the abstracts are posted as they are free.

Please be alert that doses for Adults and children may be radically different, and persons with health conditions such as kidney disease, liver disease, or other serious medical conditions should always consult with their personal health care provider before using any supplements. Also if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, discuss any supplements with your health care provider before using them.

If anyone wants to add anything else, feel free.


Protection from radiation summary:

Calcium - Blocks uptake of stronium-90. Adults may take 1500 mg daily.

Calcium iodate: -another effective blocker of radioiodine uptake by the thyroid gland. From the study listed below: "Ca(IO3)2 is permitted by the FDA as a food additive and is "generally regarded as safe" (GRAS, CFR No.1206). We have also compared the efficacy of Ca(IO3)2 with KIO3 in blocking thyroidal uptake of radioiodine, which could be important considering the better shelf life of Ca(IO3). The results of the present study provide us with evidence that Ca(IO3)2 can serve as another promising radioiodine blocker, and is as equipotent as KI/KIO3 in protecting the thyroid gland. We have not found any studies that examined the property of Ca(IO3)2 in blocking radioiodine uptake by the thyroid gland and the present study is an attempt in this direction."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Iron - Blocks the uptake of plutonium. Too much iron can be toxic, especially for children. Don't overdose on this one. Adults take up to 300 mg daily if no medical problems, and iron deficient children may receive 4 to 6 mg/kg elemental iron daily in 3 divided doses. A fatal dose for children could be as little as 600 mg so this is one to consult your pediatrician on.

Potassium - Reduces uptake of cesium-137. Adults may take up to 100 mg daily, unless they have decreased renal or kidney function. In that case, the dose should be decreased or avoided. Eating potassium rich foods, like meat broths is usually still OK, even with decreased renal function.

Zinc - Reduces uptake of radioactive zinc-65. The recommended dose is 100 mg per day in adults unless medical conditions prohibit.

Vitamin B12 - Suppresses the uptake of cobalt-60. Adults may take up to 9 mg a day. Doses as high as 40 mg daily have shown no adverse effects.

Chlorella - High in vitamin B12. Helps detoxify and get rid of heavy metals and other toxic elements etc. (some may be allergic, test for stomach upset).

Spirulina: 5 grams of spirulina a day for 45 days detoxifies radiation in both adults and children with little known harmful side effects and was used following the Chernobyl disaster. Based on the Institute of Radiation Medicine in Minsk results, the Belarus Ministry of Health concluded that spirulina accelerates the evacuation of radionuclides from the human body.

Magnesium - Always take with other supplements to help with absorption. A good way to absorb magnesium is with an Epson salts bath or foot soak so that it does not cause GI upset.

Cod liver oil - For the Retinol, Vitamin D3, Omega 3 DHA/EPA etc. Helps fortify the body and prevent damage due to toxins etc. Adults may take up to 1-3 tablespoons daily.

Flaxseed oil: The protection afforded by flaxseed oil may be attributed to the constituents of the oil, which include omega-3 essential fatty acids and phytoestrogenic lignans, which appear to play an important role in free radical scavenging and singlet oxygen quenching. There is not an accepted dosage for flaxseed oil; doses ranging from 40 mg to 300 mg have been used daily in adults.

Potassium Iodide (KI) : Blocks uptake of radioactive Iodine 131. Adults 130 mg/day. Must start before or immediately upon exposure. Children between 3 -18 years of age should take one-half of a 130-mg tablet (65 mg). Children between 1 month and 3 years of age should take 1/4 of a 130-mg tablet (32 mg).Infants from birth to 1 month of age should be given 1/8 of a 130-mg tablet (16 mg). Women who are breastfeeding should take the adult dose, and their infants should receive the recommended infant dose. Children who are approaching adult size (greater than or equal to 150 pounds) should take the adult dose regardless of their age. Do not use unless you know that you are being exposed or about to be exposed to dangerous levels of radiation.

An adult dose for potassium iodate (KIO3) is 170 mg per day during and preceeding exposure.

Melatonin: Helps to protect from damage due to ionizing radiation. Adults may take up to 9 mg a day. Start before exposure. There is also evidence for protection of the testes from radiation in rats. (Stock up now guys!) [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Vitamin E: Studies have reported vitamin E to protect against some of the toxicities of ionizing radiation Adults may use 1,000-2,000 IU per day.

Vitamin C: Shows protective effect from ionizing radiation. 1,000-5000 mg daily may be taken by adults. Use caution if a history of kidney stones.

Vitamin D3: Boosts immune system, helping to prevent infections and is a powerful anti-inflammatory. Adults may safely take 2000-5000 IU daily.


Selenium: This is an anti-oxidant with activity as a free radical scavenger. Populations with high blood selenium levels are found to have lower death rates due to cancer. Selenium toxicity can occur and the dose of selenium should be close to 100 MICROGRAMS (not milligrams) per day in adults.

Garlic: Either several cloves raw, or 1000 mg daily for adults helps the immune system and garlic was also shown to protect mice from ionizing radiation by a Cobalt 60 source.

Turmeric or Curcumin: Found to be effective in protecting the cells against radiation-induced suppression of glutathione peroxidase, catalase and superoxide dismutase (SOD) activities. This is used in many curry dishes, and may be safely ingested by adults and children. This is particularly important to use before exposure to protect the lymphocytes (blood cells).

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Aloe Vera: Helps to protect and heal skin from radiation burns.

Horseradish: is high in superoxide dismutase (SOD) which plays a role in radioprotective response by inhibiting the initiation of a superoxide anion-induced ROS cascade leading to enhanced mitochondrial and nuclear damages.

Resveratrol: Resveratrol is found in grapes and is potentially an effective protecting agent and was shown to be capable of alleviating gamma-ray radiation exposure. Grapes, grape juice or resveratrol supplements may be safely consumed by adults and children in recommended dosages as long as there is not an allergy. Adult dose is 300-1000 mg daily.

Lycopene: Lycopene is found in tomatoes, and there is evidence that pretreatment with lycopene offers protection to normal lymphocytes against gamma-radiation-induced cellular damage. Tomato products may be safely consumed by adults and children as long as they are not allergic to them. Adult dose is 10-30 mg daily.

Alpha-lipoic acid: Is a nontoxic but effective radioprotector and it is reported that alpha-lipoic acid confers considerable radio-protective effect in mouse tissues when given prior to x-irradiation. It also helps to protect the neural tissue from radiation injury. Adults may safely consume 300 mg daily unless there is an allergy or medical problem.

Miso soup: "People who eat miso regularly may be up to five times more resistant to radiation than those who do not eat miso. That is the conclusion of a team of researchers at Hiroshima University’s atomic bomb radiation research center."
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I also wanted to get this information up as it is an alternative to oral KI or KIO3.

Don’t drink the Lugols solution or betadine as both are toxic when taken orally, but to paint on your skin. Lugols solution and betadine are both still readily available!

According to research by Ken Miller, health physicist at the Hershey Medical Center, using 24 healthy adult male test subjects he found that an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination.

Although there were large variations within each subject group in regard to serum-I levels and thyroid uptakes, the increase in serum-I concentration after topical-I application was effective in reducing the thyroid uptake of I131. The authors conclude that in the absence of KI, most humans would benefit from topical application of tincture of-I, and that in some the effectiveness would equal that of oral KI.

Don’t try to drink or swallow iodine such as iodine water purification tablets, tincture of iodine, or Povidone-iodine solutions (like the Betadine® brand solution). If you do that you are going to get sick because iodine is a poison. That’s why iodine bottles are marked poisonous!

The abstract of his study is titled "Effectiveness of Skin Absorption of Tincture of I in Blocking Radioiodine from the Human Thyroid Gland" from Health Physics, June 1989, Vol. 56, No. 6, pages 911-914.

Although the amount given is for an adult male, around 160-170 lbs, I don’t see why a proportionate amount could not be used on the skin of a child as long as they could not lick it off (maybe place on the skin of the lower back). We use Betadine surgical prep on babies or very young children, so it would not be contraindicated as a topical application unless there is an allergy.

So in essence, 8 ml of a 2% solution for an adult male would be 4ml for someone weighing around 85 lbs, 2 ml for someone around 40 lbs, 1 ml for someone around 20 lbs and ½ ml for someone around 10 lbs.
Betadine surgical prep is readily available in feed and supply stores for animal use, so as long as the animal couldn’t lick it off and it was in a non-hair area (painted inside the ear flaps in rabbits or dogs) it might also work for pets.

Just my supposition, FWIW. If in doubt check with a pediatrician or veterinarian.
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WRONG


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Vitamin C 20 MEGADOSES OR EVEN MORE A DAY. DONT WORRY ABOUT KIDNEYSTONES

VITAMINE E CARFUL CAN CAUSE KIDNEY STONES

VITEMINE D3 YOU CAN TAKE 50.000 UI A DAY OR EVEN MORE. 20 MINUTUES IN THE SUN YOU GET 20.000 UI
[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
cures cancer prevent cancer prevent cardio ilness prevent alergy no need for flueshot.

I can write a book but i suggest you dont listen or read what the goverment is telling you how mutch to take on tv or internet
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Vitamin C 20 MEGADOSES OR EVEN MORE A DAY. DONT WORRY ABOUT KIDNEYSTONES

VITAMINE E CARFUL CAN CAUSE KIDNEY STONES

VITEMINE D3 YOU CAN TAKE 50.000 UI A DAY OR EVEN MORE. 20 MINUTUES IN THE SUN YOU GET 20.000 UI
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I can write a book but i suggest you dont listen or read what the goverment is telling you how mutch to take on tv or internet
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My response to the above:

On vitamin C and kidney stones:

Yes vitamin C is a remarkably safe product, however there is still some debate about the kidney stone issue.

“So what can one conclude from all these studies and can we finally lay this debate to rest? The overwhelming evidence points to little to no effect of vitamin C intake, at levels between 1000 and 2000 mg daily, on kidney stone formation.

However there is conflicting evidence, especially in older adult males, that vitamin C can contribute to kidney stones.

Finally, among those who are predisposed to form kidney stones, higher dietary intake of vitamin C does seem to increase oxalate levels, hence a risk of increased kidney stones. That means that for most of us, vitamin C will not likely contribute to kidney stone formation. But, caution is advised among those that have a history of forming calcium-oxalate kidney stones, and lowered intake of vitamin C may be warranted in this population.”

[link to www.helpyourselfcommunity.org]



You are wrong about vitamin E, it helps to prevent kidney stones.[/b]

Vitaimin E helps to lower serum oxlylate levels, which elevated serum oxylate is thought to be a caures of some types of kidney stone.

“In addition, excess vitamin E completely prevented calcium oxalate deposition, by preventing peroxidative injury and restoring renal tissue antioxidants and glutathione redox balance. Therefore, vitamin E therapy might provide protection against the deposition of calcium oxalate stones in the kidney of humans
.”

[link to onlinelibrary.wiley.com]

Finally, while Vitamin D is wonderful and of almost no toxicity, most researchers recommed that the upper limit for chronic consumption is aorund 10,000 units a day but only if injested over long peorids of time.

I chose 2,000-5,000 units daily because it seems to be a common consensus for daily use in most people.

"Although vitamin D toxicity is rare even among people who take supplements, you may be at greater risk if you have health problems, such as liver or kidney conditions, or if you take thiazide-type diuretics. As always, make sure your doctor is aware of any vitamins or supplements you take. The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), causing symptoms such as:
Nausea
Vomiting
Poor appetite
Constipation
Weakness
Confusion
Heart rhythm abnormalities
Kidney stones
[link to www.mayoclinic.com]

"Vieth reports human toxicity probably begins to occur after chronic daily consumption of approximately 40,000 IU/day (100 of the 400 IU capsules). Vieth R. Vitamin D supplementation, 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentration, and safety.Am J Clin Nutr. 1999;69:842–56. Heavy sun exposure when combined with excessive supplement use is a theoretical risk for vitamin D toxicity, but if such a case has been reported, I am not aware of it."

I do agree, however that the following is an excellent resource on Vitamin D and its benefits

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]



I do recommend that you consult with your health care provider before taking any supplements as certain chronic health conditions, such as liver or kidney disease, can greatly influence your response to even safe levels of ordinary supplements.

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Vitamin C 20 MEGADOSES OR EVEN MORE A DAY. DONT WORRY ABOUT KIDNEYSTONES

VITAMINE E CARFUL CAN CAUSE KIDNEY STONES

VITEMINE D3 YOU CAN TAKE 50.000 UI A DAY OR EVEN MORE. 20 MINUTUES IN THE SUN YOU GET 20.000 UI
[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
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My response to the above:

On vitamin C and kidney stones:

Yes vitamin C is a remarkably safe product, however there is still some debate about the kidney stone issue.

“So what can one conclude from all these studies and can we finally lay this debate to rest? The overwhelming evidence points to little to no effect of vitamin C intake, at levels between 1000 and 2000 mg daily, on kidney stone formation.

However there is conflicting evidence, especially in older adult males, that vitamin C can contribute to kidney stones.

Finally, among those who are predisposed to form kidney stones, higher dietary intake of vitamin C does seem to increase oxalate levels, hence a risk of increased kidney stones. That means that for most of us, vitamin C will not likely contribute to kidney stone formation. But, caution is advised among those that have a history of forming calcium-oxalate kidney stones, and lowered intake of vitamin C may be warranted in this population.”

[link to www.helpyourselfcommunity.org]



You are wrong about vitamin E, it helps to prevent kidney stones.[/b]

Vitaimin E helps to lower serum oxlylate levels, which elevated serum oxylate is thought to be a caures of some types of kidney stone.

“In addition, excess vitamin E completely prevented calcium oxalate deposition, by preventing peroxidative injury and restoring renal tissue antioxidants and glutathione redox balance. Therefore, vitamin E therapy might provide protection against the deposition of calcium oxalate stones in the kidney of humans
.”

[link to onlinelibrary.wiley.com]

Finally, while Vitamin D is wonderful and of almost no toxicity, most researchers recommed that the upper limit for chronic consumption is aorund 10,000 units a day but only if injested over long peorids of time.

I chose 2,000-5,000 units daily because it seems to be a common consensus for daily use in most people.

"Although vitamin D toxicity is rare even among people who take supplements, you may be at greater risk if you have health problems, such as liver or kidney conditions, or if you take thiazide-type diuretics. As always, make sure your doctor is aware of any vitamins or supplements you take. The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), causing symptoms such as:
Nausea
Vomiting
Poor appetite
Constipation
Weakness
Confusion
Heart rhythm abnormalities
Kidney stones
[link to www.mayoclinic.com]

"Vieth reports human toxicity probably begins to occur after chronic daily consumption of approximately 40,000 IU/day (100 of the 400 IU capsules). Vieth R. Vitamin D supplementation, 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentration, and safety.Am J Clin Nutr. 1999;69:842–56. Heavy sun exposure when combined with excessive supplement use is a theoretical risk for vitamin D toxicity, but if such a case has been reported, I am not aware of it."

I do agree, however that the following is an excellent resource on Vitamin D and its benefits

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]



I do recommend that you consult with your health care provider before taking any supplements as certain chronic health conditions, such as liver or kidney disease, can greatly influence your response to even safe levels of ordinary supplements.


WRONG AGIAN
Vitamine D or D3
is not toxic

Omega 3 if taken too mutch can cause A diebetes effect.
keep an eye on The EPA&DHA not the oil

I do recommend that you not consult with your chemical medical doctor they are not permitted to tell you the natual.
they can loose their profession

consult a natual herb Doctor. Or consult yourself on the internet Feel what you need to take.

Vitamine C can Kill or harm a human being if taken 750 Grams in 1 dayTHATS CRAZY

Megadose of vitamine C is good to prevent cancer and combat cancer If taken mutch 10 grams NO PROBLEM!! NOT TOXIC
can cause diareha than you lower the dosage UNITL No diareha
PS your heart loves vitamine C and is good to cure stomage acids even prevent.

I suggest people www.youtube.com www.google.com for vitamine D, D3, E B12, B3, B6, C, OMEGA 3/6/9

PEOPLPE NEVER DIED OF VITAMINES C MEGADOSE OR D3 OR OMEGA 3
NEVER!
Dont let anyone scare you. peace
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Vitamin D3 is a very powerful protection against infection of any kind. Our body makes the precursor to D3 while we are lying in the sun or just running around in our bathing suits. In 20 minutes our body makes about 20,000 IU of vitamin D3. In an hour of full body exposure, we would have 80,000 IU in 4 hours, 320,000 IU and so on. 20,000 IU of D3 equates to 0.5 mg of D3 (one half milligram).

The bottles in the stores tell us that 400 IU is our DV. It makes us think that this should be sufficient. Most of us don't even know what DV means.

We see comments on the internet, in articles, in books and in the media about vitamin D toxicity. They scare us into thinking that we better not take too much. But what is too much? If our body can make 20,000 IU in just 20 minutes and even more if we stay in the sun longer, how much is too much?

Vitamin D3 is made in three steps or three different processes.

1.The skin makes cholecalciferol (a precursor to D3) in the 5th layer of the skin (stratum basale).
2.From there it goes through the blood to the liver where it is converted into calcidiol, a prohormone.
3.It really doesn't become active until it is converted one more time into calcitriol which is the active steroid hormone that controls the uptake of calcium and performs many other functions in the body. And the body makes that itself when it needs it.

The process is self regulatory. The stored calcidiol just stays in the blood or in the fatty tissue until it is needed by the body. Then the body makes as much calcitriol as it needs when it needs it. ...If there is enough calcidiol to make it from.




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Research Alternative Cancer/HIV-AIDS Treatments and Immune Response System Enhancers Such as :

MegaDoses of Intravenous Vitamin C Infusion Treatment, Vitamin B17 Apple and Apricot Seeds + Vitamin B17 Dieting/Injections,ProAlgaZyme,Graviola,CellQuest,Protocel,DC​A , Rose-Bengal PV-10 and Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Dieting-Juicing (As well as Qi-Gong/Tai-Chi/Yoga Breathing Exercises)

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Benefits of Niacin VITAMINE B 3 Niacin

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Benefits of Niacin VITAMINE B 3 Niacin

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It still creeps me totally out that I could not post those links.shocked

I tried 5-6 times and could not post them. That is why I thought I was banned.wall


Hint, hint,secrets


They had to do with the Department of Homeland Security and Radiogardase® (Prussian blue)

That’s all I can say for now.


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ALSO THEY WERE DIRECT LINKS TO Government sites, and not to any other forum.

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for pets.

Just my supposition, FWIW. If in doubt check with a pediatrician or veterinarian.
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WRONG


WRONG WRONG.


Vitamin C 20 MEGADOSES OR EVEN MORE A DAY. DONT WORRY ABOUT KIDNEYSTONES

VITAMINE E CARFUL CAN CAUSE KIDNEY STONES

VITEMINE D3 YOU CAN TAKE 50.000 UI A DAY OR EVEN MORE. 20 MINUTUES IN THE SUN YOU GET 20.000 UI
[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
cures cancer prevent cancer prevent cardio ilness prevent alergy no need for flueshot.

I can write a book but i suggest you dont listen or read what the goverment is telling you how mutch to take on tv or internet
ty.peace
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Unless you are an MD and an instructor at a major medical university, I think I will take my supplement advise from Emerald Eye. Besides, She is cuter!
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