Cult Bnei Baruch Kabbalah

sounds like bad news

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bump cuz gut says wants to know

• The opinion of the group is above everything.

• It’s necessary to treat the personality of each friend carefully, so that he won’t loose his individuality.

double speak

• The opinion of the group is above everything.

• It’s necessary to treat the personality of each friend carefully, so that he won’t loose his individuality.

double speak



Yeah doesn't sound right.

i know a lot of ppl who are involved with them. it's really sad. they take advantage of weak and confused people. and it happens in israel, where there are a lot of authentic kabbalah resources.

a great authentic kabbalah resource is [link to inner.org]

Yeah in the beginning they don't tell you they want 10 percent of your money, they say everything is free. OK.

Your assupmtion concerning this subject is flawed.

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Your statement concerning this subject in incomplete.

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thanks!

I would like to add some more about “Bnei Baruch Kabbalah” –

I was in Bnei Baruch for a little over 4 years, until I was excommunicated for, according to them, using marijuana (I do use it for medical purposes) and being hospitalized after a crisis I had. They circulated about 5 different horrible lies about me and told everyone in Bnei Baruch to stay away from me. They denied their “brotherly love” to me in the time I needed it most, and kicked me out even though their number one slogan is “love your neighbor as yourself.” I would like to note that I stopped paying their tithe of 10% of my salary, or “Maaser” as they call it (which they say is a spiritual action) shortly before they excommunicated me. Also a side note- in the “big” groups – Moscow, Brooklyn and Petach Tikva you are not even allowed to be a part of the group unless you pay “Maaser” or if you are a woman. This is hidden from the beginners. You are also not allowed to be a homosexual. Period. According to them, you have to ask “the Creator” or God to correct your homosexuality. This is deeply hidden from beginners; but I have heard these exact words from- Markos Zografos, Michael Laitman and Mutlu Meydan.
Anyways, before I go any further I want everyone to know that and re-emphasize that I've been in Bnei Baruch for over 4 years, have been to 9 congresses, have attended a lot of their secret meetings and have been to the Groups in Petach Tikva, Israel - Jerusalem, Israel - Brooklyn, New York - and lastly, the group I started, the Washington, D.C. Bnei Baruch Group. Yes, regrettably I started a group in Washington, D.C. because I believed I would enter spirituality. I believed in their initial lies of doing well for humanity and uniting the whole world in brotherly love. I believed they were all about brotherly love and caring for each other.

Now, I'm not sure exactly if they are a cult but it's definitely a very, very dangerous and brain-washing group. They also very happily take your money. However, my entire family believes it's a cult. I have told them a lot more of what happened than I will in this post, and they saw from a third party perspective. There is no doubt in my Family’s’ minds that this is a cult.

Moving on, the reason I believe I got sucked into this group is because I have been diagnosed by my doctors as having Bi Polar II, Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Severe Depression. Their group seemed to be some sort of answer to why I was suffering, and they offered relief to this suffering. They offer entrance into the spiritual world and a connection with God, and they lure you in by offering most (not all as they claim) of their materials for free. They also offer “Brotherly Love” also known as “Mutual Guarantee” and “Arvut.” I gave and gave and gave and gave, and got nothing back. I’m ashamed and utterly embarrassed to even admit on here how much time, money, effort and mental strain I put into their organization.

My main concerns about their groups are as follows-

1) Contradictions
Homosexuality- They teach it’s okay to beginners. To intermediates they teach that it’s a mental disease and you are not allowed to be part of physical groups and can only participate online or virtually. To the innermost and advanced students they teach that you have to be married to a woman. No Exceptions. If you are gay, you have to ask God or “the Creator” to correct your homosexuality and find a woman to marry or you will not be admitted into the “big” groups.
Physical Actions don’t count- Nothing in this world is spiritual. However, giving Bnei Baruch Money is Spiritual!!!
You don’t have to tithe if you don’t want to- In order to cross the “Machsom” and be a part of the “big” groups you absolutely have to pay tithing or “Maaser.” They even keep lists of people who do and people who do not.
Verbiages- “Machsom” is nowhere to be found in any Jewish or Kabbalistic Text besides those edited or published by Bnei Baruch; any Rabbi from any synagogue will tell you this. “Arvut” (more like communism) has never been in any authentic text.
Religion- They say you can belong to any religion and still study with Bnei Baruch; however, a lot of their teachings directly contradict every religion out their except for maybe Judaism. As you progress and become a part of their internal group(s) they progressively try to pull you away from all of your religious affiliations.
The Zohar- When I first started with Bnei Baruch, the Zohar was forbidden to study unless you were in spirituality. Now it’s allowed, for everyone, but only their (Michael Laitman’s and Chaim Ratz’s) translation is correct!!!!
2) Money
I have asked on multiple occasions to receive the tax deductible forms they supposedly give for donations and never received them. I asked for how much money I donated in total and finally they gave it to me after 2 years of asking for it. I have asked them multiple times to provide information as to where the money went however, and I got no response. I contacted all of the leaders of their groups and have to this date received no response. After I was kicked out/excommunicated, my mother read an article about some other Kabbalah group in L.A. the FBI was investigating because the funds they received from celebrities were not going where they said they were going. I brought this up to Bnei Baruch and they never responded to this either.
3) Their Leadership
According to Bnei Baruch, there is no one leader. This is not the case at all. Michael Laitman commands every single thing to the last detail. Everything goes back to him. They have groups and commities, but they all in some way or another report to Avihu Sofer who is Michael Laitman’s right-hand (con)man. Michael Laitman gives all of the orders and everything circulates back to him.
4) Michael Laitman
Michael Laitman is the only person who openly and publicly admits he has crossed the so called “Machsom.” He is therefore closer to God than any person in the world and has a direct connection to God. He also speaks with “the Creator.” All of his commands come from God, therefore if you don’t do what he says, you are not obeying “the Creator.” He is treated as God-like in the Petach Tikva group in Israel. As a human being (which we all are) he is pompous, arrogant, demanding and most definitely in charge of the entire organization.

5) Active Members of Bnei Baruch
I have met almost every person who is in Bnei Baruch and would say I know about 70% of all their members personally in one way or another (I have been to 9 of their “congresses” or “conventions” as they call them). There are some sincerely nice people in the organization, but they have no leadership roles and they were sucked in as I was. They were also quite new and all of the most sincere and loving people I have met have since left Bnei Baruch. As a side note, I would say 50% of the people in Bnei Baruch have some sort of mental illness in one way or another and they look for their relief in this group. This is how they draw in crowds.

Despite their claims of not having a leader, Michael Laitman is definitely the head-honcho and what he says goes. Period. No exceptions. If he told everyone to go out and kill everyone who doesn’t study Bnei Baruch Kabbalah I’m sure 60% of their world network would go out and do it. I have seen this first person and seen it in action. I have also heard how this operates- they have hidden lessons on Friday Nights (EDT/EST – East Coast Time; “Shabbat” in Israel) that you can access on a program called Team Talk with a username and password. This is where a lot of their hidden agenda is spewed and they hide all of these conversations from beginners. They also do not post these lessons on any of their sites. They claim this is because the Jewish people in Israel would be very angry with them if it wad found that they operate on Shabbat, but this is not the case. This is where they give their hidden lessons for people who were in as long as I was. If you go onto their forums and ask what the Shabbat lesson is or ask to access it you will get the response “What Shabbat lesson???” or “There is no Shabbat lesson by Bnei Baruch.”

I know Mike Kellogg personally and he is a pompous, stuck-up person. He has also admitted and thinks he has passed the "Machsom." The "Machsom" or "Barrier" in English is something not found in any Kabbalistic text (or Jewish according to my Rabbi at my local synagogue) besides those of Bnei Baruch. It is, according to them, the cut off point between our world and the spiritual world.


Just as a reference for staying safe, here's a list of very dangerous (sociopaths; all 4 types of passive-aggressiveness signs) and deluded/deranged people in Bnei Baruch who think they have crossed the “Machsom” and have admitted it (not to mention this makes them better than anyone else in the entire world)-

Tony Kosinec (Toronto, Canada Group)

Avihu Sofer (Petach Tikva, Israel “Headquarters”)

Mike Kellogg (St. Louis, Missouri Group)

Olga Levkovich (Was a Washington, D.C. Group Member; not sure what she’s doing now but I’ve heard through the grapevine she’s active in Bnei Baruch)

and last but not least, the leader of it all - Michael Laitman (Petach Tikva, Israel “Headquarters”)


6) Lack of Responsibility for anything bad or immoral according to this day and age’s modern somewhat civilized society
Any wrongdoing on their part is responded to with the phrase “There is none Else besides Him.” God does everything and Bnei Baruch is not responsible. I’ll give a couple of examples- I was treated very badly by a group of individuals in Bnei Baruch and was harassed and my girlfriend at the time (who was also in Bnei Baruch; they tell you to date and marry only someone else in Bnei Baruch so you can advance in spirituality) cheated on me more than once with other members in their groups. She also stole some items from me and locked them in her room at one of the congresses. I, being in sound and right mind, called the police to retrieve my items since no one would assist and she would not comply to my requests. Everyone was furious with me and treated me like garbage. I was a piece of sh-t to everyone for the rest of that congress/convention. It was entirely my fault of all of this. I brought this to the attention of Bnei Baruch and their various groups in letters and their response was that God does everything. The Creator did it. “Rise above it.”
They didn’t “rise above it” when I called the police to retrieve my items (maybe they don’t want authorities around so they will find out about their brain-washing and illegal activities?????)
These people were not excommunicated as I was (they, however, follow all the rules and pay money and volunteer their time to the organization). I was excommunicated for my actions; no one said the Creator did it, no one “rose above it.” There are also a lot of existing members in Bnei Baruch who smoke marijuana for recreation purposes but either they pay “maaser” and can stay or they hide it very well.

7) Relationships
You are told to only date and marry within Bnei Baruch because this furthers your spiritual advancement.

I’m getting tired of typing and don’t really want to think about this horrible group anymore, so I will end with this-
All in all, they are a contradictory, double-standards group. I would stay away from them if you want to stay mentally healthy and not have all of your money and time wasted. Stay away, stay away, stay away!
If you are a part of their organization I would say leave now while you can.
If you are a part of t heir group and plan on not leaving, be very cautious! Call authorities if needed, keep a cell phone on you, and have a lawyer handy. If you have mental illness, get help from a psychologist and a psychiatrist! DO NOT BELIEVE THEY WILL HELP YOUR MENTAL ISSSUES. They teach Kabbalah will cure this, but it will only make things worse.

all these allegations and lies about BB are a bunch of BS
i've studied through them for 7 years and have never once had to pay 10 percent of anything to anyone. In fact if anything I'VE GAINED FINANCIALLY fellow brothers have bought me plane tickets paid for my gas fed me and sheltered me and my family for extended periods of time. Just remember guys and gals everything you experience everything you confront is just a reflection of your true intentions

Kabbalah was very simply an attempt by Rabbis to _update_ Judaism so it could compete with emerging new philosophies that eventually evolved into Scientific Rationalism. It is based on a number of notions floating around during the Middle Ages such as NeoPlatonism and various forms of Mysticism.

The core text of the Kabbalah, The Zohar, emerged from no-where during the late middle ages. The story is quite incredible and hard to believe. Other supporting texts of the Kabbalah are similarly difficult to trace and have anachronistic elements which indicate in-authenticity. The movement itself gestated during the middle ages and formed the nexus of most late Medieval Jewish politics. All the familiar moral codes of a secret society were there, most importantly it was forbidden to receive the Kabbalah before a man was married with children and fully responsible member of society.

These latest Kabbalah trends are really attempts by right wing Israeli factions who are allied with religious groups to attract new followers from amongst the lost sheep in Israel and abroad. This new concoction is quite attractive as there have been many new 'baal tshuvah' converts from amongst those who were raised Jewish and those who were not.

all these allegations and lies about BB are a bunch of BS
i've studied through them for 7 years and have never once had to pay 10 percent of anything to anyone. In fact if anything I'VE GAINED FINANCIALLY fellow brothers have bought me plane tickets paid for my gas fed me and sheltered me and my family for extended periods of time. Just remember guys and gals everything you experience everything you confront is just a reflection of your true intentions


Obviously you are not in the inner circle. 10 percent is required for advancement or as Kellogg puts it -you are just spinning around like a top.


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Charlie I never said I didn't pay maaser, I said I never HAD to pay maaser. I'm disappointed in you my friend...

Charlie I never said I didn't pay maaser, I said I never HAD to pay maaser. I'm disappointed in you my friend...

Nice play on words what was your intention?? No not Charlie- think again.And what you did to Charlie I will let stand on its own merit. Oh and now I hear Laitman wants you to build him a church- funny thing he keeps getting richer and you... well fill in the blanks.

And my intention is to put everything upfront so people can have a informed decision not the secrecy that you want. People spending years before you inform them of what is going on- what is your intention again with that???



Dear friends!

To my students, friends and everyone who will find it possible to help us, I am addressing you personally and on behalf of the Bnei Baruch board. We have been in existence for 20 years. In this time a lot has been done; we have developed on the Internet, our site today is recognized as one of the largest in the world; we hold daily lessons in the morning as well as throughout the day and they are being translated into tens of languages; we opened a television channel, which broadcasts 24 hours a day, we operate an online learning center where thousands of people have already completed courses; we write and disseminate newspapers, books, and brochures; we produce films, and we hold conventions in Israel and throughout the world. We openheartedly aspire to disseminate the higher knowledge about the unity of the world.

In these 20 years we have grown from 10 people into dozens of thousands. From our original small apartment, we have moved into a two-story building in Israel, which we have been renting for the past 10 years and hundreds of groups and centers around the globe. The rented facility outside Tel Aviv is the location from which we create and share the materials for disseminating Kabbalah. It houses our studio and TV center where we create, produce, broadcast, and translate our many and continually growing number of programs including our mainstay, the three hour Daily Kabbalah Lesson. However, the time has come when we are being forced to leave this building. We have simply outgrown it. It has long since ceased to meet our requirements and safety regulations. Following pressures from organizations responsible for fire and electrical safety and the ministry of health (regarding our kitchen, etc.), we no longer are able to stay here; the building will be demolished.

When calculating the cost of relocation and the set up of communication and settling into the new place, we found that we will spend around USD $800,000 on the move alone; the rent for a new building for the next 10 years would cost an additional USD $3,000,000. If we would have to move at least once more during the coming 10 years, considering the expenses of the move and re-equipment, a thought arises about the economic necessity of purchasing a permanent place. In this way, we would all acquire our own world center. For those who work here, who come here to study, who travel here for short periods of time, who have training here, and even for those who do not have the opportunity to come here, we would like everyone to be able to say: “I have a home.”

We are not shy about this appeal because we are talking about a home for everyone. We are starting to collect funds for the purchase of our home. Each one can contribute as much as they able to. We need to collect this capital in a very short time. Due to the pressure of local authorities, we must move to a new place by the end of 2012.

Let’s celebrate the opening of our new center, our permanent home, which will truly become the center for dissemination of knowledge about the unity of the world. I am addressing everyone, who understands the necessity of the dissemination of the science of Kabbalah and mutual guarantee in the world, to help all of us acquire our home.

Thank you in advance for your participation!

Dr. Michael Laitman

Charlie quit this non-sense I know it's you, for one you posted the exact same comments on this post in another forum and it was under your slaytanico screen name retard. dude you got problems and if you aren't going do what's required of you on this path you need to gtfo and go smoke some weed and fuck some bitches. you dont even know who this is its funny i've never done anything to you but be your friend. ARVUT bro i hope you quit the drugs man and quit drilling a hole in our boat thanks

Charlie quit this non-sense I know it's you, for one you posted the exact same comments on this post in another forum and it was under your slaytanico screen name retard. dude you got problems and if you aren't going do what's required of you on this path you need to gtfo and go smoke some weed and fuck some bitches. you dont even know who this is its funny i've never done anything to you but be your friend. ARVUT bro i hope you quit the drugs man and quit drilling a hole in our boat thanks

Keep posting friend and show you true colors- not charlie.

I know a lot of people who still worship the lines of Abraham and the lies told in its wake.

None of them honor their Babylonian heritage honestly, and they all worship Enlil unknowingly.

it is really sad.

Kabbalah is to Judaism what Masonry is to Christianity.

It is simply access to the occult pre and post Babylonian traditions,rituals and practices of either respective Abrahamic faith.

This is the Charles Lease or "Charlie" every one keeps talking about. I did make that post on the Rick Ross forum, however I did not on here.


Who the fuck are you asshole? When were you my friend ever? Who called me when I needed help? Who talked to me online or in person when I needed help? My username is slaytaniccyco you retard.

Anyhow who are you and tell me how you've been such a great friend to me? I'm waiting.....

Hey tell me your real name. I'm waiting. By the way retard, the other person who I don't even know posted all of that and has been a better friend than you and doesn't even know me or even talked to me once, so that goes to show how much of an awesome person you are.

-Charles Lease

Hey tell me your real name. I'm waiting. By the way retard, the other person who I don't even know posted all of that and has been a better friend than you and doesn't even know me or even talked to me once, so that goes to show how much of an awesome person you are.


Your so called friend ,in his own mind, thinks he was your friend but only as long as you were in his cult. Does a fish know it is in water? I am the OP and saw your post on Rick Ross's forum also spent 2 years with BB. The best thing you could do, Charles, is tell as much as you can of the inner workings of this group, that is the only way that they can be exposed.

I exposed most of the worst aspects of Bnei Baruch already on the Rick Ross forum which was re-posted above.

However, there is more- from the postings above you can see how much hatred Bnei Baruch members have inside of themselves and how mentally stable they are. Also, he refers to women as "bi***es" which is another part of Bnei Baruch- they treat women as the lowest creatures in existence. They are very chauvinistic. Chauvinism is an unspoken central tenant of Bnei Baruch; why do you think only men are on the "inner group" lessons? Their "secret" lessons are held on [link to internet.kbb1.com] Friday nights starting at 8PM EST under the archived lessons section. Also they have a channel on Team Talk version 3-

[link to www.bearware.dk]

Download team talk version 3, run it and then-

Click the green square with the c in it.

Host Address - 62.219.8.120
Password - shamati
TCP - 80
UDP - 554

You'll have to use a group name or they will ban you though and plus they can also see your IP address.


Their book publisher and seller is Michael Laitman's son- Uri Laitman. Hmmm I wonder why? Profit? Hmmmmmm......

They may also be involved in tax fraud as they have some very sneaky things they do with their money. They collect cash from various groups around the USA and prefer cash....with cash their is no paper trail. They also do not give tax write offs when money is sent to them as they promise to US and Canadian residents.

They also use all pirated software on their networks in the USA and Israel. Now I think of it, I will be in contact with Adobe, Microsoft, ESET and others with all the inner workings of their illegal computer networks as I worked as a Sr. Sys Admin for a while and am now doing Sr. Desktop Support as my profession plus I know all about their computer networks in the USA and Israel because I worked on them and fixed them voluntarily.

I will think of more later and add it. It's hard for me to type about this cult because I dedicated every thing to them for the 4 years I was with them and the way I was kicked out and the lies spread about me have really damaged me.

-Charles Lease

I will think of more later and add it. It's hard for me to type about this cult because I dedicated every thing to them for the 4 years I was with them and the way I was kicked out and the lies spread about me have really damaged me.

That's understandable but think of it as being cathartic. All those hours of dissemination, now all you are doing is telling the truth about this organization. What is the saying the truth will set you ....

Take Care.

Not sure if it will let me post this link but you can go to torrentz.com , torrentz.eu or the pirate bay and look for the un-edited videos of the interactions of real scientists from the film "what the bleep do we know" and michael laitman and michael kellogg. Lots and lots of double-speak and none of the scientists want anything to do with bnei baruch now and stay far, far away from them and have since cut off all contact with bnei baruch cult.

"Fred Alan Wolf, PhD; William Tiller, PhD; and Jeffrey Satinover, MD"

"What the Bleep !? Quantum Physics Meets Kabbalah"

[link to torrents.thepiratebay.se (secure)]

I will only let them speak for themselves and will post some e-mails they have circulated about myself if need be; I don't want to stoop to their level and talk any more shit about them like they do about me on a constant basis, so I will let their own actions, typings and words prove their motives, true intentions and evil/hatred. Also the other testemonials and my own can speak for themselves without adding more.

For more information, there are 2 stories from 2 different Israeli's contact with this cult. You can find them on google; I believe one is on a blog called "A Mother in Israel" and the other should come up close to the top on google's results.

Anyone who speaks and reads Hebrew fluently and can search online will also find many more testimonials.

I won't be surprised if wiki-leaks or a similar site will come up with all their dirt sooner or later.

Stay healthy and happy; Love & Peace.

-Charles Lease

Last Edited by CharlesLease on 04/22/2012 10:36 PM