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Fukushima's Stuxnet-infected Siemens operating system

 
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Fukushima's Stuxnet-infected Siemens operating system
Japanese nuclear plant in Fukushima ran on Siemens computers that the Stuxnet worm was programmed to infect- in fact the virus was found in Fukushima systems last year.
Makes you wonder why the cooling system wasn't functioning.

[link to www.whatreallyhappened.net]
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03/21/2011 02:37 AM
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Sorry if this is old news, hadn't seen it here yet
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03/21/2011 02:41 AM
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Damn, I was wondering if they were Siemens systems.

That settles it. Undoubtedly related.

The tsunami just got the blame.

Probably the tsunami caused failures which Stuxnet made the reactors unable to handle.

Most likely scenario and explains the failures at other4 plants in Japan (and possibly elsewhere) as well as the urgency to shut German and South African reactors down.

Probably the German reactors were using Siemens systems as well.

Thx for that.

Was just on Rivero's site and must have missed that story.

Last Edited by misterx on 03/21/2011 02:41 AM
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03/21/2011 02:47 AM
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Be interesting to see who ran the security at the German and South African reactors?
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Re: Fukushima's Stuxnet-infected Siemens operating system
wow, almost an hour and nobody has said "Sorcha FAIL!"

maybe the shills are sleeping at this hour.

Thanks OP, sheds new light and lends more intrigue.
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03/21/2011 03:46 AM
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Stuxnet has also been damaging and taking many critical and much needed medical imaging devices out of service.

Stuxnet's creators care not how many innocent lives they harm or kill in their quest to hoard all unto themselves, as they demonstrated so aptly 10 years ago.

"The lessons will be repeated until they are learned."
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03/21/2011 03:53 AM
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wow, almost an hour and nobody has said "Sorcha FAIL!"

maybe the shills are sleeping at this hour.

Thanks OP, sheds new light and lends more intrigue.
 Quoting: AC914884

Different website. Sorcha Faal is what*does*it*mean, this website is more a compilation of articles from across the web filtered by the siteholder's own biases, but he is an independent intelligent young man whether you agree or disagree with him. it's called what*really*happened.
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wow, almost an hour and nobody has said "Sorcha FAIL!"

maybe the shills are sleeping at this hour.

Thanks OP, sheds new light and lends more intrigue.
 Quoting: AC914884

Different website. Sorcha Faal is what*does*it*mean, this website is more a compilation of articles from across the web filtered by the siteholder's own biases, but he is an independent intelligent young man whether you agree or disagree with him. it's called what*really*happened.
 Quoting: tranny witch


duh, my bad. case of mistaken identity.

thanks.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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03/21/2011 05:43 AM
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Re: Fukushima's Stuxnet-infected Siemens operating system
Japanese nuclear plant in Fukushima ran on Siemens computers that the Stuxnet worm was programmed to infect- in fact the virus was found in Fukushima systems last year.
Makes you wonder why the cooling system wasn't functioning.

[link to www.whatreallyhappened.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497111


So the world dies because some retarded school kid decides to play computer hacker for fun.. GREAT ONE KIDO....


as a after thought.. those reactors are shite, they all share the same cooling system, and are way too close to the shore :(

funny isnt it that the reactors were built by
General Electric ^^
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03/21/2011 05:52 AM
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So the world dies because some retarded school kid decides to play computer hacker for fun..
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You're so wrong on most of your post, but this bit in general.

STUXNET:

Experts believe that Stuxnet required the largest and costliest development effort in malware history.[21] Its many capabilities would have required a team of people to program, in-depth knowledge of industrial processes, and an interest in attacking industrial infrastructure.[3][8]

Eric Byres, who has years of experience maintaining and troubleshooting Siemens systems, told Wired that writing the code would have taken many man-months, if not years.[29]

Symantec estimates that the group developing Stuxnet would have consisted of five to ten people and as many as 30, and would have taken six months to prepare.[50][21]

The Guardian, the BBC and The New York Times all reported that experts studying Stuxnet considered that the complexity of the code indicates that only a nation state would have the capabilities to produce it.[10][50][51] The self-destruct and other safeguards within the code imply that a Western government was responsible, with lawyers evaluating the worm's ramifications.[21]
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Re: Fukushima's Stuxnet-infected Siemens operating system
Japanese nuclear plant in Fukushima ran on Siemens computers that the Stuxnet worm was programmed to infect- in fact the virus was found in Fukushima systems last year.
Makes you wonder why the cooling system wasn't functioning.

[link to www.whatreallyhappened.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497111


We need a World Nuclear Power station Army...

I have been thinking about this for some time, maybe a little too late, like closing the barn door after the horse has bolted...

My idea would be to have a NATO or UN type army that each country uses, these forces are not governed by any one goverment, esp the host country, this means that ALL nuclear fuel is safe from terrorist governments intent on using them to make nuke war heads etc...

All plants are monitored by a central hub.. in a remote place, e.g. antartic or space, these send info about the Worlds state of affairs,

IF a government tries to seize the fuel, or power station, a international team are sent in, meanwhile the fort knox type facility is shut down, and if neccassary the fuel store is sunk.. into a big hole several hundred meters deep, which would stop it beng taken.
and enough time to get back-up, as each plant is a self contained town, and all personel are equiped not only to run the plant but defend it, this means no one can leave or get in, all supplies to the power station, have its own railway. expensive- but neccassary!

Nuke power is the way forward
only time will tell.
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03/21/2011 07:03 AM
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lol
I bet Siemens bribed the Japanese. lmao

protip: Don´t use Siemens in important systems.
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03/21/2011 07:26 AM
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wow, almost an hour and nobody has said "Sorcha FAIL!"

maybe the shills are sleeping at this hour.

Thanks OP, sheds new light and lends more intrigue.
 Quoting: AC914884

Different website. Sorcha Faal is what*does*it*mean, this website is more a compilation of articles from across the web filtered by the siteholder's own biases, but he is an independent intelligent young man whether you agree or disagree with him. it's called what*really*happened.
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Mike Rivero isn't a "young man"--he worked on the Apollo Missions. Those happened before I was born. I am 40.
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03/21/2011 07:30 AM
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i seen 2 similar threads like this get deleted earlier today. enjoy it while you can.
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03/21/2011 08:03 AM
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i seen 2 similar threads like this get deleted earlier today. enjoy it while you can.
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Usually means truth then.
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03/21/2011 08:05 AM
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Be interesting to see who ran the security at the German and South African reactors?
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Israeli firm was in charge of security at Fukushima plant.

Just like WTC.

You connect the dots.
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03/21/2011 08:07 AM
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Be interesting to see who ran the security at the German and South African reactors?
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In Germany, Siemens. We were slightly worried about it when Stuxnet went around...
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03/21/2011 08:08 AM
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Be interesting to see who ran the security at the German and South African reactors?
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In Germany, Siemens. We were slightly worried about it when Stuxnet went around...
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Makes me wonder, maybe Stuxnet is the cause of Germany switching off 7 nuclear power plants (something totally unheard here, especially by the CDU)? Blackmail...
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i seen 2 similar threads like this get deleted earlier today. enjoy it while you can.
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Usually means truth then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1307176


not neccisarily but yeah only to those who want to see it. try tell the sheep this.

could also just be one of the mods who are sick of the anti-israeli threads. since israel created stuxnet.

this all seems plausible to me with the technology available. but seriously evil.

bump this thread tommorrow or say in about... 10 hours and watch it go missing :P
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03/21/2011 04:45 PM
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bump

for truth
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bump

for truth
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lets hypothetically say that stuxnet has 2 modes a active and passive mode and that active mode actives when the virus notices damage sustained by the power plant in multiple key points of the infrastructure as to differentiate between a accident and a attack(like the one Israel did in 1981 in Iraq)

Now lets say that the earthquake/tsunami just by chance happened to activate said protocol

Now imagine people's horror if they learned the truth. Many people would turn on the creators of said virus and call them enemies of mankind to create and use such a thing that would cause massive indiscriminate deaths

but this is all hypothetically of course
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03/23/2011 01:31 PM
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They should have bought Rockwell Automation PLC's and products.

Rockwell is the NRC standard system focus product for plants in the US.
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03/23/2011 01:44 PM
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wow, almost an hour and nobody has said "Sorcha FAIL!"

maybe the shills are sleeping at this hour.

Thanks OP, sheds new light and lends more intrigue.
 Quoting: AC914884


They are prepping their next card the atomic monster one...
wont be godzilla but bacteria they will try blaming it and all of this on those who come to help.
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bump

the Fukushima reactor was infected by Stuxnet before the earthquake, it melted down just as if it had been the Iran reactor

the Israeli security firm Magna was at the site

all Israelis work for the Mossad (sayanim)

the tsunami could be cover just like 911, the airplanes were cover for the controlled demolition of the towers

The New York Times reports that Stuxnet was designed and tested in Israel and meant to melt down the Iran reactor

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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great work guys. i have actually not seen the fact of fukushima daiichi's use of siemens step 7 plcs PROVEN, like proven proven, please if someone has a source for that besides some blogger sayin ---

lots of circumstansial tho.


Last Edited by female.faust on 04/03/2011 12:52 PM
Be seeing you.
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bump

is that how to favorite?
or is it pin?

Be seeing you.
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Wanna bet some hard drives from that plant are missing ?
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hi folks !

nice one to blame stuxnet instead the incompetence of the Fukujima management...

security checks that were not carried out, maintenance neglected, incidents hushed up... in a nuclear facility, in a country like Japan ??? (by now well known and proven facts !!!)

it takes no stuxnet to find reasons for a failing cooling system !
and it also brings up the question: why did it take that long to fail ??? Sure a tsunami coming in certainly bothers some of the major pumps, given the structure of the sewers there. But run down systems are quite likely to fail in that situation without stuxnet !!!

and btw.: check out the systems attacked by stuxnet ! IT´S NOT JUST SIEMENS !!! (sorry for the American guys among us !)

so please Fukujima´s CS certainly is not the result of a conspiracy to run down siemens-controlled sites by means of a virus.
it is bad management, corporate supidity and good mother nature´s "little games".

just give it a thought and maybe take a look at the obvious...

all the best,

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