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Guy who put Ron Paul's face on his own minted coins convicted of "domestic terrorism," could get 15 years

 
Levi Philos
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Who ever spearheaded this investigation wanted the dudes $7,000,000 in gold he had laying around.

This is a robbery and those involved need to be "investigated".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1012969


Not gold - silver. And the property was confiscated several years ago and not returned.

Rummel; Terrorism by Government: [link to www.hawaii.edu]

IS GOVERNMENT A FORM OF INSANITY?
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Ron Paul builds a memorial. Commemorative coin value explodes.
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03/22/2011 10:51 AM
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Folks, stop using your Berknake Bananas. Get a real currency
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The biggest fucking "Domestic Terrorist" is vacationing down in South America ---> odance


Stop his ass at the border and ask him for his original birth certificate.

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LIKE, WHY DOES HE HAVE WHITE LEGS? lmao
Levi Philos
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03/22/2011 10:54 AM
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Rummel; Terrorism by Government: [link to www.hawaii.edu]

IS GOVERNMENT A FORM OF INSANITY?
 Quoting: Levi Philos 590644


Albert Jay Nock wrote a book back about 1935 titled "Our Enemy, The State." Before Nock was Lysander Spooner who is the more famous.

The Nock book and the several by Spooner are easy to find by search and should be found in several formats.
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This story needs to go viral, spread it to the masses! People must know how badly the "domestic terrorism" term is misused.
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03/22/2011 11:02 AM
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And, let me tell you. These people hate America and are con artists.

The used all that conspiracy shit to make millions.And, they'd love nothing more than to destabilizae and create a war inside the USA.

So, yes domestic terror is a good call on this one.

This guy, and the other guy I know of arent just minting counterfit coins. Thats just the tip of the iceberg.
 Quoting: vor


domestic terror...Now we have thought crimes?

Or, on the other hand, if a guy makes millions swindling people then Bernie Madoff and Kanny Boy Lay are also terrorists. May as well throw in Henry Paulson, the Bernanke and even Mike Chertoff (making millions as a investor and consultant to the body-scanner machine makers..the same machines he lobbied to get into the airports. How about Tom Ridge using the orange alerts to help Bush push his terror agenda?
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So why isn't anyone calling the Mayans terrorists? Look at the billions made from 2012. And what about Paul writing the Book of Revelations? The list is endless.

We're living in the TERRORIST AGENDA era. Children are labelled terrorists; the government PUMPS the use of TERRORIST in the MEDIA so the public is truly blind to EGOTISTICAL GOVERNMENT terrorism.



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would it have been legal if he put chuck e. cheese on the coins?
if someone asks if you're a god, you say yes!
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03/22/2011 11:08 AM
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[link to cryptome.org]

Liberty Dollar Von Nothaus Indictment-Exhibits March 21, 2011 (1.1MB)
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03/22/2011 11:12 AM
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[link to www.theepochtimes.com]

"[Bernard] von NotHaus was also the founder of the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve and Internal Revenue Code (NOFRED). One of the aims of the organization was to mix in the Liberty coins with standard US currency, said the agency."
 Quoting: Jamal_fazes_em_all 1308428


This case should not have made it to court, as they are worthless. Besides didn't one company make chocolate coins once a upon a time? Whey weren't they taken to court?
Anonymous Coward
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03/22/2011 11:17 AM
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how did we let it go this far? that's what I want to know

been seriously considering filing for ASYLUM
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The day all the Right Wingers and Fox news were waving their chinese made flags and calling the liberals 'traitors' as they protested the signing of the Pat Act.

That's when.
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03/22/2011 11:30 AM
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[link to www.theepochtimes.com]

"[Bernard] von NotHaus was also the founder of the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve and Internal Revenue Code (NOFRED). One of the aims of the organization was to mix in the Liberty coins with standard US currency, said the agency."
 Quoting: Jamal_fazes_em_all 1308428


This case should not have made it to court, as they are worthless. Besides didn't one company make chocolate coins once a upon a time? Whey weren't they taken to court?
 Quoting: MrZorg2012 1305483


The officers of the court get their power from the gubmnt and as such are directly licensed as a govt franchisee. You wont find justice in the courts, you may get 'process' and you get processed fully into bankruptcy. The courts are nothing more than a wealth transfer device; from the earner, to the govt, with lawyers taking their generous cut at gunpoint.
The courts have deemed themselves as interpreters of any word they need to re-define, and curiously enough, it always works out for their own benefit.

Every ruling only increases the power of the officers of the court to rule lives with a piece of paper. The currency is incidental, the wrong piece of paper can ruin your life or take it from you or your family. Sure., you can leave, but you'll leave naked and penniless and as such, have nowhere to go
Levi Philos
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03/22/2011 11:32 AM
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FAME; Foundation for Advancement in Monetary Education:

[link to www.fame.org]
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03/22/2011 11:40 AM
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he'd get less if he'd held up a liquor store
when you fuck with their monetary system, TPTB get really pissed
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03/22/2011 11:41 AM
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I wonder what will happen to people who possess Liberty Dollars? Are they in possession of illegal materials?
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03/22/2011 12:00 PM
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You will be prosecuted to the max if you in any way threatens their monetary system or the power that supports it.
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Bernard Von Nut House...lol
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03/22/2011 12:03 PM
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We need to rescue this guy by force.
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Hugo Salinas Price is promoting the coinage of silver for Mexico; you can find his writing here:

[link to www.plata.com.mx]

Full speech of Mr. Hugo Salinas at 'The Cheviot Sound Money Conference: a discussion of precious metals as money', held in London, January 27, 2011.

The world is waiting for the sunrise!

Full speech: [link to www.plata.com.mx]
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Bernard Von Nut House...lol
 Quoting: cdhowlett


Truly a handicap. I have wondered whether he ever considered changing his name.

To be factual it is NotHaus
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I wonder what will happen to people who possess Liberty Dollars? Are they in possession of illegal materials?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1000114


Of course, the item is deemed contraband by judicial fiat. There was of course nobody that would mistake them for US currency and the whole ruing is a perversion of legal redefinition.
It is gonna be used to justify and confiscate any non-traceable form of value transfer. You have to be controlled at every level. If you dont account for your borrowed 'income' and pay tribute, you will be terminated.
Make no mistake, this ruling allows confiscation of any value-rich instrument by decree, You've been put onto a cattle car and heading toward where the acrid smoke is rising from the chimneys.
You are already dead, because you are not allowed to labor to accumulate value for yourself to do with what you please. If you are taxed for earning, selling or keeping it, it is not yours.
Levi Philos
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Uttering Money and other Absurdities

Found near the top of page 9: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 9)

An oblique reference to coinage in general and fundamental presumptions about money.
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We need to rescue this guy by force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1175267


The first order of business of any despot or tyrant is to de-legitimize any form of previously allowed dissidence.
Somehow, the first order of business, ie to allow individual liberty has been transformed purely to giving priority to the 'process' and 'privilege' of gubmnt officers that are otherwise unaccountable for any action. Once they do this, the next step is to exterminate dissent and increase their own privileges. Read your history, it always follows, as to steal, you first lie to the victims and afterwards 'bury' the evidence.
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This is the story of your enslavement:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Uttering Money and other Absurdities

Found near the top of page 9: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 9)

An oblique reference to coinage in general and fundamental presumptions about money.
 Quoting: Levi Philos 590644


Bottom line:
Currency holds only the value the public give it unless of course they are out of the loop, voicless for those that buy and sell their future as slaves. Free men choose to enter into agreements for trading their labor or property for other valuables without outside interference. Slaves are allowed only beads or company scrip. As such it becomes a freedom of speech issue, of course the officers of the court have issues with that, because they tell you only they can redefine the meaning of any word or groups of words as they see fit.
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Terror, Terror, Terror now doesnt that word scare anyone? Who the hell ever thought that stupid word up for our government to use on the sheeple? Our government is the real Terror to beware of.
Isnt there oil to be had in Lybia? is that why were are over there now? Oil ,Oil <Oil, Terror, Terror, Terror.
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Re: Guy who put Ron Paul's face on his own minted coins convicted of "domestic terrorism," could get 15 years
So was this guy minting coins?

U.S. Constitution. Article I. Section 8. The Congress shall have Power To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States.

Section 10. No State shall.. coin Money; emit
Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.


I think the Constitution is pretty clear about NOT doing that.

Maybe he should have just created a Ron Paul paper currency instead.
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Here are writings labeled "Terra Libra"

[link to www.buildfreedom.com]

found at the site [link to www.buildfreedom.com] - especially the "Clear Your Mind" reports: CLEAR YOUR MIND REPORTS

[link to www.buildfreedom.com]

Start with reports #TL07B: The Nature of Government [link to www.buildfreedom.com]

and #TL06: Discourse on Voluntary Servitude [link to www.buildfreedom.com]
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Terror, Terror, Terror now doesnt that word scare anyone? Who the hell ever thought that stupid word up for our government to use on the sheeple? Our government is the real Terror to beware of.
Isnt there oil to be had in Lybia? is that why were are over there now? Oil ,Oil <Oil, Terror, Terror, Terror.
 Quoting: MONSTER


Exactly. Who was he "terrorizing"?
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You can be put in prison in America for just about anything nowadays. 1% of the population is currently incarcerated in the jails and prisons in the U.S. It's a whole INDUSTRY unto itself.





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