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Must See!!....Official Illuminati Website????

 
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Here is an "official" Illuminati website -

[link to itanimulli.com]

Note, it is "illuminati" spelled backwards.
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Yes, seen that one before!
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Again, this is a Prankster civilian named John Fenley thru Godaddy. who does a URL redirect, Anyone can do this, I can do it in ten minutes,
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wow, if thats really true...thats completely a different view & I've read alot of sites. Theres alot of extremely good points and it really is worth the read to see it from a different perpective. Regardless of if there illuminati or not, there views sure do sound like a lot of your guys.

"The great issue of our time is whether or not we will resist the Old World Order. Will you be neutral, indifferent, apathetic? Or will you make a stand? The Power Elite will never be overthrown unless people take actual steps to bring about their downfall. In the last year, the world has endured a financial catastrophe and yet, with the exception of a few sacrificial victims thrown to the lions to appease the mob, all of the same people, institutions and systems of government and economics, are still in place. Why were the whole lot of them not thrown out? Why did everything not change? Why do we refuse the call of justice? Too lazy, too stupid, too brainwashed, too comfortable? Why does "boom and bust" happen? Because nothing changes. The same systems that caused busts centuries ago are still in place now. Why do we never learn? Never has there been a better hour to change the world than now, and yet still no one moves a muscle."

"Freemasons erected a statue of Albert Pike, a high-ranking Freemason, in Washington D.C. He is the only Confederate soldier to have an outdoor statue in the American capital. Pike was a founding member of the Ku Klux Klan (although Freemasons try to deny this). He was a member of the Know Nothing Party that despised the arrival of large numbers of Irish Catholics in America (a hatred that was still palpable a century later when Irish American John F. Kennedy ran for the Presidency.) All of the groups to which Pike belonged were pro-slavery, anti-immigration, anti-Catholic, anti-Semitic, anti-Communist, racist, pro-free market capitalism. (All of these elements appear in the propaganda that they spew out against the Illuminati and the New World Order.) They were white supremacists whose heartland lay in the Confederates States of America. It is the descendants of Pike and co who now form the core support of the Republican Party, who vote into power leaders of the Old World Order such as George Bush, father and son."

If that really is the illuminati, these are not things I would expect them to say. there far from satan worshippers and they also trash anyone living a material lifestyle.

The only thing that puts me off is how often various religions are told to be rejected...but it does list scriptures and facts to back it up.

Also one of the disclaimers:
"We absolutely encourage everyone to read every last word of the Torah, the Koran and the Bible."

I found the "selling your soul" section, an awesome read and not at all like I was expecting.

And this is a great quote:

"They need no soldiers, microchips in the head, concentration camps or whatever other paranoid fantasies are summoned up, to control the people. They understand the great and simple secret of how to manipulate the people: give them a tedious job to occupy them for most of the week, then endless ways to fritter away the time they have when they're not at work. Result? - a zombie population, docile, blinded by glitter and bling, with neither the ability nor motivation to resist. "Shall we start a Revolution?" we say. "No, we'd rather watch American Idol and eat popcorn, thank you very much," they reply. That's the world of today."

And sadly that couldn't be farther from the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011494


Whoever they are, they are pretty intelligent and out to expose the Elite

So, who are the "anonymous Elite" and which "Freemasons"??

We all know Bush and the Royal crown are the ones, which means every president in history, since they are all related to William The Conqueror...Which you can follow back to Rome...

The same global elite, steering us to hate and spread rumors about the "Illuminati"

I dont know, but Illuminated means Illuminated..And hes right, what are we all doing here right now??

Searching for the truth, enlightenment and all of the hidden mysteries of the past...

We are the Illuminati, just in training and very low level...LoL...Some know more than others and some research more than others...Which puts us on a path to knowing the true secrets...
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wow, if thats really true...thats completely a different view & I've read alot of sites. Theres alot of extremely good points and it really is worth the read to see it from a different perpective. Regardless of if there illuminati or not, there views sure do sound like a lot of your guys.

"The great issue of our time is whether or not we will resist the Old World Order. Will you be neutral, indifferent, apathetic? Or will you make a stand? The Power Elite will never be overthrown unless people take actual steps to bring about their downfall. In the last year, the world has endured a financial catastrophe and yet, with the exception of a few sacrificial victims thrown to the lions to appease the mob, all of the same people, institutions and systems of government and economics, are still in place. Why were the whole lot of them not thrown out? Why did everything not change? Why do we refuse the call of justice? Too lazy, too stupid, too brainwashed, too comfortable? Why does "boom and bust" happen? Because nothing changes. The same systems that caused busts centuries ago are still in place now. Why do we never learn? Never has there been a better hour to change the world than now, and yet still no one moves a muscle."

"Freemasons erected a statue of Albert Pike, a high-ranking Freemason, in Washington D.C. He is the only Confederate soldier to have an outdoor statue in the American capital. Pike was a founding member of the Ku Klux Klan (although Freemasons try to deny this). He was a member of the Know Nothing Party that despised the arrival of large numbers of Irish Catholics in America (a hatred that was still palpable a century later when Irish American John F. Kennedy ran for the Presidency.) All of the groups to which Pike belonged were pro-slavery, anti-immigration, anti-Catholic, anti-Semitic, anti-Communist, racist, pro-free market capitalism. (All of these elements appear in the propaganda that they spew out against the Illuminati and the New World Order.) They were white supremacists whose heartland lay in the Confederates States of America. It is the descendants of Pike and co who now form the core support of the Republican Party, who vote into power leaders of the Old World Order such as George Bush, father and son."

If that really is the illuminati, these are not things I would expect them to say. there far from satan worshippers and they also trash anyone living a material lifestyle.

The only thing that puts me off is how often various religions are told to be rejected...but it does list scriptures and facts to back it up.

Also one of the disclaimers:
"We absolutely encourage everyone to read every last word of the Torah, the Koran and the Bible."

I found the "selling your soul" section, an awesome read and not at all like I was expecting.

And this is a great quote:

"They need no soldiers, microchips in the head, concentration camps or whatever other paranoid fantasies are summoned up, to control the people. They understand the great and simple secret of how to manipulate the people: give them a tedious job to occupy them for most of the week, then endless ways to fritter away the time they have when they're not at work. Result? - a zombie population, docile, blinded by glitter and bling, with neither the ability nor motivation to resist. "Shall we start a Revolution?" we say. "No, we'd rather watch American Idol and eat popcorn, thank you very much," they reply. That's the world of today."

And sadly that couldn't be farther from the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011494


Whoever they are, they are pretty intelligent and out to expose the Elite

So, who are the "anonymous Elite" and which "Freemasons"??

We all know Bush and the Royal crown are the ones, which means every president in history, since they are all related to William The Conqueror...Which you can follow back to Rome...

The same global elite, steering us to hate and spread rumors about the "Illuminati"

I dont know, but Illuminated means Illuminated..And hes right, what are we all doing here right now??

Searching for the truth, enlightenment and all of the hidden mysteries of the past...

We are the Illuminati, just in training and very low level...LoL...Some know more than others and some research more than others...Which puts us on a path to knowing the true secrets...
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The True secrets is how to obtain Immortal life..

And all of us will eventually obtain it

We live in a world engineered out of fear and experimentation. When people demand another world based on love, morality and security, we will enter into that stage,

In the time table of the Universe clock, this age of lust, fear and materialism is about to end

Thats what its all about

God, Science, Creationism and Evolution.

ALl of it is truth, not separate.
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why would they need a website?
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why would they need a website?
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Illuminati is built within, thats where the Temple is, If you entered into a Secret society, thats one of the lessons you learn . The Temple of God is meant to be your body.

Now you have to determine what God is to you.

Thus the Hermetic Axiom, KNOW THYSELF
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bunch of perverted Satanists , eager to lure you deeper into absurd till you end up with one behind ,pumping up your ass
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Something I read somewhere else that makes a lot of sense...

I like the way he presented this

Guess its up to you to keep an open mind and read around the subject [link to www.newsweek.com] who do you think are at the controls - these people?
[link to en.wikipedia.org] these? [link to en.wikipedia.org] or some nice [link to www.youtube.com] chaps [link to img.dailymail.co.uk] who are looking
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk] to pull us all together [link to www.ft.com] into a nice happy family?
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Now the question is, who do we trust...

How do we know for sure they are not one in the same??

That is the burning question in my mind...Because, from what I have read and seen, the Illuminati is associated with the Rosicrucians and Freemasons...

So what you are telling us is, this is wrong??
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He also posted this...LoL...I like this guy

oh and wait a min - those reptilian [link to en.wikipedia.org] guys will be along in [link to www.disclosureproject.org] a [link to www.rense.com] while, right before Hollywood [link to www.earthfiles.com] and the church [link to news.bbc.co.uk] has softened up the masses [link to www.realclimate.org] a little...
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Some people should not be allowed to vote.
It's dangerous!
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This
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Friedrich Nietzsche
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Now the question is, who do we trust...

How do we know for sure they are not one in the same??

That is the burning question in my mind...Because, from what I have read and seen, the Illuminati is associated with the Rosicrucians and Freemasons...

So what you are telling us is, this is wrong??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284583


Yes, they are.. cause Rosicrucian and Freemasonry study the symbols that are encoded science and physics, Even far more advanced than the Science we have now.

What is in those symbols will one day get us off this planet and open up possibilities never before seen

The Advanced civilization that left us with these symbols. left it for us in riddle and allegory to give us time to decipher and our souls to develop into understanding

Wormholes, Gateways, Immortal life, the meaning of life and more..

Conspiracy theories of US vs THEM is a distraction. All of us have a key to truth, but prevented from coming together cause of our suspicions and judgements and fear.


:ouro:
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Now the question is, who do we trust...

How do we know for sure they are not one in the same??

That is the burning question in my mind...Because, from what I have read and seen, the Illuminati is associated with the Rosicrucians and Freemasons...

So what you are telling us is, this is wrong??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284583


Yes, they are.. cause Rosicrucian and Freemasonry study the symbols that are encoded science and physics, Even far more advanced than the Science we have now.

What is in those symbols will one day get us off this planet and open up possibilities never before seen

The Advanced civilization that left us with these symbols. left it for us in riddle and allegory to give us time to decipher and our souls to develop into understanding

Wormholes, Gateways, Immortal life, the meaning of life and more..

Conspiracy theories of US vs THEM is a distraction. All of us have a key to truth, but prevented from coming together cause of our suspicions and judgements and fear.


:ouro:
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


Well, that fear is caused by them...

So why is the Illuminati out to teach us, while the Masons continues to "spread democracy" across the planet...Killing everything in sight and destroying the earth with bombs, nuclear technologies, drilling, fracking, mining and all of the other things..

How can they claim to be "Godly" and treat our planet so shitty??...How can they kill innocent people all around the planet??

These dont sound like good people to me and if they are all 3 the same, obviously, noone wants to be a part of it...

The freemasons/rosicrucians/illuminati that built this country also are the ones related to the royal crown...The "bad ones"..

So, at this point, Im totally lost, and maybe thats the idea..
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Now the question is, who do we trust...

How do we know for sure they are not one in the same??

That is the burning question in my mind...Because, from what I have read and seen, the Illuminati is associated with the Rosicrucians and Freemasons...

So what you are telling us is, this is wrong??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284583


Yes, they are.. cause Rosicrucian and Freemasonry study the symbols that are encoded science and physics, Even far more advanced than the Science we have now.

What is in those symbols will one day get us off this planet and open up possibilities never before seen

The Advanced civilization that left us with these symbols. left it for us in riddle and allegory to give us time to decipher and our souls to develop into understanding

Wormholes, Gateways, Immortal life, the meaning of life and more..

Conspiracy theories of US vs THEM is a distraction. All of us have a key to truth, but prevented from coming together cause of our suspicions and judgements and fear.


:ouro:
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


So what exactly are you for??

Are you out to end the global elite, end wars, protect the earth, unite people as one and for the betterment of humanity??

Are you against the political system we have??

To me, it sounds like the Illuminati are in agreement with the Zeitgeist Movement and the Venus Project

Can you point me to some good research???
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The real Illuminati likes to stay in the shadows. They definitely wouldn't have a website and the word conspiracy wouldn't be in it.
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Or a shitty rap song on the main page.
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I advise you to be careful when reading that site.
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Now the question is, who do we trust...

How do we know for sure they are not one in the same??

That is the burning question in my mind...Because, from what I have read and seen, the Illuminati is associated with the Rosicrucians and Freemasons...

So what you are telling us is, this is wrong??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284583


Yes, they are.. cause Rosicrucian and Freemasonry study the symbols that are encoded science and physics, Even far more advanced than the Science we have now.

What is in those symbols will one day get us off this planet and open up possibilities never before seen

The Advanced civilization that left us with these symbols. left it for us in riddle and allegory to give us time to decipher and our souls to develop into understanding

Wormholes, Gateways, Immortal life, the meaning of life and more..

Conspiracy theories of US vs THEM is a distraction. All of us have a key to truth, but prevented from coming together cause of our suspicions and judgements and fear.


:ouro:
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


So what exactly are you for??

Are you out to end the global elite, end wars, protect the earth, unite people as one and for the betterment of humanity??

Are you against the political system we have??

To me, it sounds like the Illuminati are in agreement with the Zeitgeist Movement and the Venus Project

Can you point me to some good research???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284583


I was going to ask Spartacus the same thing .
Spartacus you say you know members of the illuminati , are they pro war, pro ONE world order ?
Are they different from the elite ?
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ATS is the Illuminati sponsored website that monitors outsiders, (everyone else's) activity.
It is set up with the theme in mind of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer.' And from what better perch to gauge public sentiment and inclination?

Someone asked recently who is the highest Mason -
Pindar is even higher than the Queen who is no slouch herself a winged reptilian. Only a few have wings.

The Queen and the ancient Roman Empire, the Roman Catholic Church are working jointly for control of the world.
Knights and Illuminati are a high order of something or other that is guarding the Queen. We are surprisingly similar to a hive type set up relative to the numbers of drones to Queen and the very few classes fortunate enough to be "attending" the Queen.

Illuminati and Masons are closely connected if not simply intermingled to protect their shared secrecy. They are in line with the Queen who is also connected to the Pope....all of them share a link to the United States.
The Royal "upper classes" were the first class citizens on the first boats to the new world.

Giving rise to the expression - "treated like a second class citizen."
If you were riding in steerage that was yet another experience and so every American did not begin life in the Colonies on the same footing.
First class citizens had a separate customs procedure checking in and they are still our upper classes, the Heritage Foundation and others, today's ruling elite.

We are fall into either...Ruling class, Merchant class or Working class. Otherwise you are stuck on a lower rung - embedded in a long standing system of societal control and rule uniquely designed to keep you there.
Sure, in America you might escape your lot but you will be always be known as "the hero" and "the lucky one" who got out of Peoria. No way to build a country or a society if you ask me. Everyone should enjoy employment opportunity as well as enough leisure time to pursue happiness and enjoy a happy family life.
"Worked to death" should not be a societal class and presently it is.

Masons are the original knights of... something or other, not an expert on the topic but I have pieced together a few pertinent facts for consideration)....Masons, these Knights were the original moneylenders.
So they ARE the Financiers and Bankers of today.
In this, they probably "founded" the Builderburg groups and are a central feature of any NWO.

The Masons and the Illuminati were given some secret knowledge way back before the written histories of man - one could presume from some extraterrestrial life that was a fore runner or a visitor to earth and earthlings. Excluding that, we would have to assume from some ancient ancestor that was somehow smarter than we are today.

We are all always walking on eggshells as regular people. You have to walk like a native or like a scout to spot the many scams and traps and altered realities laid out to ensnare us or suck us into a vortex we have to struggle to get out of.

Programming like Dancing with the Stars and Idol are part of the NWO, Builderburg, Illuminati and all these groups. The advertisers you see between the singing and the dancing too...all Illuminati, all NWO. The Sunpass Cards, traffic cameras, facial recognition. It looks so harmless. Parts of it are. Try not to get swept away. Don't accept life as a cog in the wheel. Don't give up too much information.

RE the link to the "Official Illuminati Website" like I said in the beginning ATS is definitely a hidden communication arm although I don't think there ever can be one representative for something this big.
The Vatican, NASA, The Royal Palace and even Halls within the White House are also a part of this larger "network" of Illuminati, Builderburg, Masons, Knights, Royal Palace and Holy See control empire that has been in place for a long time.
This empire and external "network" is becoming increasingly difficult to conceal and so LOSING some of it's POWER. THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS.

Unless it is from an extremely reliable source I can't bring myself to click on a link.
Last time I looked up the word TYRANNY my computer was down for month with a virus.
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ATS is the Illuminati sponsored website that monitors outsiders, (everyone else's) activity.It is set up with the theme in mind of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer.' And from what better perch to gauge public sentiment and inclination?



I got banned from ats 2 days ago .
I agree it a set up .
Have you any research on this subject you can share with me ?

I began to research it and its amazing how much stuff pops up about ats .
Dodgy characters indeed .
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ATS is the Illuminati sponsored website that monitors outsiders, (everyone else's) activity.It is set up with the theme in mind of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer.' And from what better perch to gauge public sentiment and inclination?



I got banned from ats 2 days ago .
I agree it a set up .
Have you any research on this subject you can share with me ?

I began to research it and its amazing how much stuff pops up about ats .
Dodgy characters indeed .
 Quoting: GhostViking


Just a little personal poking around. Especially since my first ban months ago I started watched to see who was allowed to attack what viewpoints were removed or banned. Sometimes UFO threads would be debunked and dismantled and everyone told they were hoaxes when they were not definitely solved. People who reasonably argued were eventually gone.
I noticed many of the mods are Freemasons. When I was chastised on a few occasions I looked up the views of the moderator and found them to be Illuminati types or Freemasons all dressed up in the guise of a science nerd.

There are regulars there such as "Phage" who steer people away from anything suspicious on the part of NASA and UFO activity. Others away from hollow earth and reptilian topics. They are mostly men, not gay friendly or liberal.
A few times people tried to warn me to be careful of ATS in a private message using code words and language which meant they were about to be banned. Then they were banned.

If you google advance search exact phrase "banned from ATS" or "kicked off ATS" you will find many interesting reports of people who are credible and removed for odd and mysterious reasons.
Look for these people among the remaining conspiracy websites by searching term ATS when you visit. There are people who have been banned for even suggesting ATS is the biggest conspiracy.
I also got the distinct impression (instinctively) I should be careful what I say - they ARE WATCHING and they ARE the secret societies and horrendous groups that they are right now getting people to report their largest fears and most intimate knowledge about.
I shook it off and said I was crazy. Now I think that impression was correct.

Not exactly scientific but I urge you to investigate and see what others besides me have said about them.
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ATS is the Illuminati sponsored website that monitors outsiders, (everyone else's) activity.It is set up with the theme in mind of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer.' And from what better perch to gauge public sentiment and inclination?



I got banned from ats 2 days ago .
I agree it a set up .
Have you any research on this subject you can share with me ?

I began to research it and its amazing how much stuff pops up about ats .
Dodgy characters indeed .
 Quoting: GhostViking


Just a little personal poking around. Especially since my first ban months ago I started watched to see who was allowed to attack what viewpoints were removed or banned. Sometimes UFO threads would be debunked and dismantled and everyone told they were hoaxes when they were not definitely solved. People who reasonably argued were eventually gone.
I noticed many of the mods are Freemasons. When I was chastised on a few occasions I looked up the views of the moderator and found them to be Illuminati types or Freemasons all dressed up in the guise of a science nerd.

There are regulars there such as "Phage" who steer people away from anything suspicious on the part of NASA and UFO activity. Others away from hollow earth and reptilian topics. They are mostly men, not gay friendly or liberal.
A few times people tried to warn me to be careful of ATS in a private message using code words and language which meant they were about to be banned. Then they were banned.

If you google advance search exact phrase "banned from ATS" or "kicked off ATS" you will find many interesting reports of people who are credible and removed for odd and mysterious reasons.
Look for these people among the remaining conspiracy websites by searching term ATS when you visit. There are people who have been banned for even suggesting ATS is the biggest conspiracy.
I also got the distinct impression (instinctively) I should be careful what I say - they ARE WATCHING and they ARE the secret societies and horrendous groups that they are right now getting people to report their largest fears and most intimate knowledge about.
I shook it off and said I was crazy. Now I think that impression was correct.

Not exactly scientific but I urge you to investigate and see what others besides me have said about them.
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Thanks for your reply my friend .
I researched ats twice , once before I joined and I didnt believe what the conspiracies were indicating . .
Then I got banned after 2 weeks , I was shocked .
Then I did more research and it all made sense .

Imo ats was set up by a government agency to monitor us .
Their T&C is so vast it gives them carte blanche to silence who they choose .

You probably know John Lear got banned .
Well they are trying to provoke Jim Fetzer into a ban too .
He is gang stalked and abused by "debunkers"
His threads start in skunkworks , then hoax then they get closed .
Its Pathetic !

They deserve nothing . Above top secret is a scummy forum .

I wonder who Gray, Springer and Septic really are .


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ATS is the Illuminati sponsored website that monitors outsiders, (everyone else's) activity.
It is set up with the theme in mind of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer.' And from what better perch to gauge public sentiment and inclination?

Someone asked recently who is the highest Mason -
Pindar is even higher than the Queen who is no slouch herself a winged reptilian. Only a few have wings.

The Queen and the ancient Roman Empire, the Roman Catholic Church are working jointly for control of the world.
Knights and Illuminati are a high order of something or other that is guarding the Queen. We are surprisingly similar to a hive type set up relative to the numbers of drones to Queen and the very few classes fortunate enough to be "attending" the Queen.

Illuminati and Masons are closely connected if not simply intermingled to protect their shared secrecy. They are in line with the Queen who is also connected to the Pope....all of them share a link to the United States.
The Royal "upper classes" were the first class citizens on the first boats to the new world.

Giving rise to the expression - "treated like a second class citizen."
If you were riding in steerage that was yet another experience and so every American did not begin life in the Colonies on the same footing.
First class citizens had a separate customs procedure checking in and they are still our upper classes, the Heritage Foundation and others, today's ruling elite.

We are fall into either...Ruling class, Merchant class or Working class. Otherwise you are stuck on a lower rung - embedded in a long standing system of societal control and rule uniquely designed to keep you there.
Sure, in America you might escape your lot but you will be always be known as "the hero" and "the lucky one" who got out of Peoria. No way to build a country or a society if you ask me. Everyone should enjoy employment opportunity as well as enough leisure time to pursue happiness and enjoy a happy family life.
"Worked to death" should not be a societal class and presently it is.

Masons are the original knights of... something or other, not an expert on the topic but I have pieced together a few pertinent facts for consideration)....Masons, these Knights were the original moneylenders.
So they ARE the Financiers and Bankers of today.
In this, they probably "founded" the Builderburg groups and are a central feature of any NWO.

The Masons and the Illuminati were given some secret knowledge way back before the written histories of man - one could presume from some extraterrestrial life that was a fore runner or a visitor to earth and earthlings. Excluding that, we would have to assume from some ancient ancestor that was somehow smarter than we are today.

We are all always walking on eggshells as regular people. You have to walk like a native or like a scout to spot the many scams and traps and altered realities laid out to ensnare us or suck us into a vortex we have to struggle to get out of.

Programming like Dancing with the Stars and Idol are part of the NWO, Builderburg, Illuminati and all these groups. The advertisers you see between the singing and the dancing too...all Illuminati, all NWO. The Sunpass Cards, traffic cameras, facial recognition. It looks so harmless. Parts of it are. Try not to get swept away. Don't accept life as a cog in the wheel. Don't give up too much information.

RE the link to the "Official Illuminati Website" like I said in the beginning ATS is definitely a hidden communication arm although I don't think there ever can be one representative for something this big.
The Vatican, NASA, The Royal Palace and even Halls within the White House are also a part of this larger "network" of Illuminati, Builderburg, Masons, Knights, Royal Palace and Holy See control empire that has been in place for a long time.
This empire and external "network" is becoming increasingly difficult to conceal and so LOSING some of it's POWER. THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS.

Unless it is from an extremely reliable source I can't bring myself to click on a link.
Last time I looked up the word TYRANNY my computer was down for month with a virus.
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The more I research, the more I find this to be a popular misconception...

Ive been digging and reading...

From what I understand is the Illuminati have always pushed for a New World Order and destruction of the Old World Order that is run by the Royal Dynasty, the elites if today..

The Illuminati actually wants something completely different than the Royal elite...

The Illuminati were destroyed by the Vatican and forced into hiding and their teachings were then considered dark and evil...

The Illuminati were trying to bring science and majik to light and thats why they were destroyed...

Its funny how everyone on this planet loves Egypt, Babylon, Mayan, Inca cultures and records, but are completely against the people who study the same things today...And they are look at as Satanic and evil...Wouldnt you have to believe in the Bible to be satanic??

Illuminati may be summarized in the following six points:

1. Abolition of Monarchy and all ordered Government.
2. Abolition of private property.
3. Abolition of inheritance.
4. Abolition of patriotism.
5. Abolition of the family (i.e. of marriage and all morality, and the institution of the communal education of children).
6. Abolition of all religion.

Which is far different than the Elite Royal Dynasty that is and has been in power for 1000s of years...


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Proofs of a Conspiracy, by John Robison, [1798]

CHAP. II.
The Illuminati.

This was in 1777. Weishaupt had long been scheming the establishment of an Association or Order, which, in time, should govern the world. In his first fervour and high expectations, he hinted to several Ex-Jesuits the probability of their recovering, under a new name, the influence which they formerly possessed, and of being again of great service to society, by directing the education of youth of distinction, now emancipated from all civil and religious prejudices. He prevailed on some to join him, but they all retracted but two. After this disappointment Weishaupt became the implacable enemy of the Jesuits; and his sanguine temper made him frequently lay himself open to their piercing eye, and drew on him their keenest resentment, and at last made him the victim of their enmity.

The Lodge Theodore was the place where the above-mentioned doctrines were most zealously propagated. But Weishaupt's emissaries had already procured the adherence of many other Lodges; and the Eclectic Masonry had been brought into vogue chiefly by their exertions at the Willemsbad convention. The Lodge Theodore was perhaps less guarded in its proceedings, for it became remarkable for the very bold sentiments in politics and religion which were frequently uttered in their harangues; and its members were noted for their zeal in making proselytes. Many bitter pasquinades, satires, and other offensive pamphlets were in secret circulation, and even larger works of very dangerous tendency, and several of them were traced to that Lodge. The Elector often expressed his disapprobation of such proceedings, and sent them kind messages, desiring them to be careful not to disturb the peace of the country, and particularly to recollect the solemn declaration made to every entrant into the Fraternity of Free Masons, "That no subject of religion or politics shall ever be touched on in the Lodge;" a declaration which alone could have procured his permission of any secret assembly whatever, and on the sincerity and honor of which he had reckoned when he gave his sanction to their establishment. But repeated accounts

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of the same kind increased the alarm, and the Elector ordered a judicial enquiry into the proceedings of the Lodge Theodore.
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Point me to what they think of the private banker monopoly and what they think of the banks being able to create loans/money out of thin air and charge the working class interest to borrow this fake wealth.

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Now the question is, who do we trust...

How do we know for sure they are not one in the same??

That is the burning question in my mind...Because, from what I have read and seen, the Illuminati is associated with the Rosicrucians and Freemasons...

So what you are telling us is, this is wrong??
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Yes, they are.. cause Rosicrucian and Freemasonry study the symbols that are encoded science and physics, Even far more advanced than the Science we have now.

What is in those symbols will one day get us off this planet and open up possibilities never before seen

The Advanced civilization that left us with these symbols. left it for us in riddle and allegory to give us time to decipher and our souls to develop into understanding

Wormholes, Gateways, Immortal life, the meaning of life and more..

Conspiracy theories of US vs THEM is a distraction. All of us have a key to truth, but prevented from coming together cause of our suspicions and judgements and fear.


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So what exactly are you for??

Are you out to end the global elite, end wars, protect the earth, unite people as one and for the betterment of humanity??

Are you against the political system we have??

To me, it sounds like the Illuminati are in agreement with the Zeitgeist Movement and the Venus Project

Can you point me to some good research???
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I was going to ask Spartacus the same thing .
Spartacus you say you know members of the illuminati , are they pro war, pro ONE world order ?
Are they different from the elite ?
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I would recommend reading some of the site I originally posted and digging for other clues from there...There are many Illuminati sites I am finding and am learning quite a bit...I find it fascinating and am starting to get a very different feel for the real Illuminati...Not the Royal Dynastic Jesuits that currently run the world...The Old World Order...The Global Elite...The banksters, big oil, insurance companies and corporate America....The Illuminati are for Meritocracy, not Democracy...

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

[link to www.thegic.org]

Started watching these videos earlier, havent finished yet, but was advised to watch them by some people I was speaking to...
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From what I understand, the Zeitgeist/Venus Project are what the REAL Illuminati are pushing for...

We need to wake up and stop listening to everyone trying to tell us Illuminati are the bad ones and laying blame where it belongs

I will bump a post I made earlier from a guy who commented on another forum which shows you where the blame lies...
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Something I read somewhere else that makes a lot of sense...

I like the way he presented this

Guess its up to you to keep an open mind and read around the subject [link to www.newsweek.com] who do you think are at the controls - these people?
[link to en.wikipedia.org] these? [link to en.wikipedia.org] or some nice [link to www.youtube.com] chaps [link to img.dailymail.co.uk] who are looking
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk] to pull us all together [link to www.ft.com] into a nice happy family?
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He also posted this...LoL...I like this guy

oh and wait a min - those reptilian [link to en.wikipedia.org] guys will be along in [link to www.disclosureproject.org] a [link to www.rense.com] while, right before Hollywood [link to www.earthfiles.com] and the church [link to news.bbc.co.uk] has softened up the masses [link to www.realclimate.org] a little...
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Read above

Lets blame the right people...So far that doesnt seem like the Illuminati to me...
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Point me to what they think of the private banker monopoly and what they think of the banks being able to create loans/money out of thin air and charge the working class interest to borrow this fake wealth.

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The Puppetmasters

If you have doubts about the existence of the Old World Order, they ought to vanish when you read Taibbi's article. You will see how an organisation makes itself so powerful (and is allowed to do so) that it effectively becomes a global government and bank, shaping the world's economy and politics for its own selfish ends.

If Goldman Sachs were attempting to create a New World Order that would raise humanity to a new, higher level, its mission might be welcomed and embraced. But it is doing the opposite. It is the Old World Order seeking to maintain a rich, privileged elite in perpetual wealth and power, with everyone else reduced to humiliating roles in a supporting cast of hangers-on, suckers and slaves.

As Taibbi says, "The bank's unprecedented reach and power have enabled it to turn all of America into a giant pump and dump scam, manipulating whole economic sectors for years at a time, moving the dice game as this or that market collapses, and all the time gorging itself on the unseen costs that are breaking families everywhere — high gas prices, rising consumer credit rates, half eaten pension funds, mass layoffs, future taxes to pay off bailouts. All that money that you're losing, it's going somewhere, and in both a literal and a figurative sense, Goldman Sachs is where it's going. The bank is a huge, highly sophisticated engine for converting the useful, deployed wealth of society into the least useful, most wasteful and insoluble substance on Earth — pure profit for rich individuals."

Taibbi is absolutely correct. Goldman Sachs is an engine for generating obscene profits for the super-rich. Why is such an engine allowed to exist?

No nation on earth would explicitly entrust its armed forces - its defence - to a powerful commercial company with rich shareholders that, independently of government, could declare war. In such circumstances, the army might be sent off to fight ridiculous wars that would enormously boost the value of companies in the military-industrial complex, handsomely reward the shareholders and do nothing whatever for the benefit of the nation. Think about the Vietnam War. Cui bono? Think about the American and British armies in Iraq. What were they doing there? Were they defending America and Britain? Or were they carrying out the will of a commercial organisation and its wealthy shareholders, all of whom profited massively from the war?
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Where did Spartacus go???

Is what I posted above what the true focus of the "real" Illuminati??

Are the Knights Templar actually the bad power that is in control??..And also the arch enemy of Illuminati??

Forgive me, just starting to research...So, Im pretty stupid to some of it...I know a lot about those groups but its things I have learned by anti-Illuminati documentaries and writings
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From what I understand, the Zeitgeist/Venus Project are what the REAL Illuminati are pushing for...

We need to wake up and stop listening to everyone trying to tell us Illuminati are the bad ones and laying blame where it belongs

I will bump a post I made earlier from a guy who commented on another forum which shows you where the blame lies...
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Hi There ! Venus project is awesome architecture..Zeitgeist, ""the spirit of the times" exists cause of the Slow moving planets, Uranus and Jupiter and Saturn and Pluto, How they effect the magnetic/radio waves and the Ions of earth puts us in collective time frames

Freemasons study the Ionic influence of Venus the Bright Morning star, When it rises and is closest to earth, it produces very bright gifted children

Astrology is valid, very true (much more complicated beyond tabloid horoscope) and is a mark of a True Illuminati, hence the Illumination of the Starry bodies

Im learning my own chart, I noticed one morning that Pluto had a degree influencing my natal, I was to encounter a rough car accident that day, according to the degree..

I seriously had to take this car trip and went anyways

On the way I missed this horrible car accident by mere minutes, Everything was so wrecked and mangled that someone might have died

You can also use the stars to see what you will wear that day, what your whole day will be like. and yes, I know the date of my own death.

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