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the Doppler Effect, the spirals, and Nibiru

 
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
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The reason I had to take screenshots is because the spiral is over and done with quite quickly. This object is what is causing the spiral because when I pause the video, you dont see the spiral, you see an image of this object.

I have been examining these photos since day 1. Not in 2 seconds like you.
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.


And no, Im not a child. And NO, I didnt just discover this. All I did was try to show you people why these spirals are occuring.


Becareful how you treat the people that are only trying to do what they believe is right. Because it's people like you and that other shill that are going to be the ones with the most fear and tears in their eyes. I've known for a long time that this is coming. I dont need CNN to tell me about. Like some people are waiting for.
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Radial velocity
Main article: Doppler spectroscopy

A star with a planet will move in its own small orbit in response to the planet's gravity. This leads to variations in the speed with which the star moves toward or away from Earth. I.e. the variations are in the radial velocity of the star with respect to Earth. The radial velocity can be deduced from the displacement in the parent star's spectral lines due to the Doppler effect. The radial velocity method measures these variations in order to confirm the presence of the planet.

The velocity of the star around the center of mass is much smaller than that of the planet, because the radius of its orbit around the center of mass is so small. Velocity variations down to 1 m/s can be detected with modern spectrometers, such as the HARPS (High Accuracy Radial Velocity Planet Searcher) spectrometer at the ESO 3.6 meter telescope in La Silla Observatory, Chile, or the HIRES spectrometer at the Keck telescopes. An especially simple and inexpensive method for measuring radial velocity is "externally dispersed interferometry". [1]

This has been by far the most productive technique used by planet hunters. It is also known as Doppler spectroscopy. The method is distance independent, but requires high signal-to-noise ratios to achieve high precision, and so is generally only used for relatively nearby stars out to about 160 light-years from Earth. It easily finds massive planets that are close to stars, but detection of those orbiting at great distances requires many years of observation. Planets with orbits highly inclined to the line of sight from Earth produce smaller wobbles, and are thus more difficult to detect. One of the main disadvantages of the radial-velocity method is that it can only estimate a planet's minimum mass. The posterior distribution of the inclination angle depends on the true mass distribution of the planets. The radial-velocity method can be used to confirm findings made by using the transit method. When both methods are used in combination, then the planet's true mass can be estimated.

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When do we think we can get a "true mass" of PX?
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If it existed you'd probably know it right now.

First you need to agree on what "PX" is.

Some of you think it's a brown dwarf.

Some of you think it's a comet (Elenin is the latest fad)

Some of you think it's a rogue planet with moons flying around it (in which case how it could be confused for a comet or a brown dwarf is...a mystery).

Do you understand?

Basically, a minor "consesus" that I've been able to gather is that "PX" is somewhere in the solar system at least within the orbit of Neptune (except according to the "Nibiru"-enthusiasts who claim it's a "dark companion" to our Sun, way out by the Oor Cloud in which case...it's not an issue and never will be- at least within the context of it "killing us all". It WOULD BE COOL THOUGH to discover some day...). But again...everyone's got a different idea.

IF your "PX" is in the solar system, within the orbit of Neptune, it SHOULD be easily detectable right now based on planetary pertubations. And it probably would be knocking other random shit (comets, asteroids) out of expected, long-predicted orbits also.

And if THAT was the case...we'd be able to figure out it's mass by how it effects these other objects it's passing/interacting with.

And depending on how "big" your "PX" is it maybe even would be visible right now by telescopes. If it's anywhere near, say, Jupiter, I would say it would probably be visible by ANYONE IN THE WORLD with a reasonably decent 'scope.

Granted, I'm not an expert on telescopes, per se. But from what I gather...this thing WOULD BE VISIBLE by now- if it existed.

And THESE are just a couple of many issues, unfortunately, "PX"-believers are going to have to clarify before anyone...basically, gives a shit.

I don't mean to be a dick...but these things need to be explained. They're real.
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.


And no, Im not a child. And NO, I didnt just discover this. All I did was try to show you people why these spirals are occuring.


Becareful how you treat the people that are only trying to do what they believe is right. Because it's people like you and that other shill that are going to be the ones with the most fear and tears in their eyes. I've known for a long time that this is coming. I dont need CNN to tell me about. Like some people are waiting for.
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Why is it that when someone puts a theory forward that makes no sense, and then gets questioned on it, then it's called shilling??? NO, it's called being responsible and asking questions that matter. In order to make something a fact, you have to question it and prove it, and you did not to do that. Your not helping anyone by perpetuating stupidity and nonsense. Just because you believe it to be real and true doesn't mean it is...unfortunately those who don't know better will follow, hence the blind leading the blind....your right about one thing though, if a brown dwarf did come our way on the 2012 time line, and main stream media wanted to hide it, we would still here it from amateur astronomers all over the world. I'm still dumbfounded how people think a dwarf star can be hidden it can't...
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
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MG, go back and read my last post, tell me your thoughts, on page2

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I don't understand why you write things like:
" Take this information which ever way you please..."

and then write a paragraph later:
"This is the real deal folks. The ancients tried warning us with their glyphs on the rock walls of the high lands of the earth and that information has been suppressed."

Which is it? I've actually got respect for the "Nibiru"-enthusiats who actually come and say what they mean. I mean, they're wrong, but they don't half-ass it.

Congratulations though on your recent discovery of "red-shift". You're obviously not an "astronomy-buff"...

(I still get though how you're trying to say "Nibiru" causes spirals...on Earth...or anywhere?)

oh, and re: the ancients. If you were terribly ill, would you want to be treated with the level of medical technology which had been available to the "ancients"?

Probably not. So why are you defining your astronomy-ideas based on what the "ancients" knew? Not that studying the ancients is USELESS. Not at all...But MODERN-DAY ASTRONOMY knocks "Nibiru" out on it's ass every time, despite, unfortunately, what the "ancients" say/said. Or rather, your interpertation of what they wrote in another language on the side of a rock...thousands of years ago.

It...is the truth, man....It just is.
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You dont understand why I said 'Take this information which ever way you please' ?

Because I've had enough of being shilled to death each and everytime. If you dont agree with what I have to say, you are more then welcome to go to another thread. Nobody is forcing you to read this thread, nor reply to it.

And you also said


'oh, and re: the ancients. If you were terribly ill, would you want to be treated with the level of medical technology which had been available to the "ancients"? '

My answer to that is ABSOLUTELY YES. Because they werent pussies that had to go to the doctor. They knew natural remedies to help themselves and had the skills to live like REAL men in the wilderness.
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Ha...YOU'RE sick of being "shilled"? Listen:

Astronomy's been a hobby of mine for years. I read books about it. I read dorky magazines about it that my friends laugh at me about. I spend lots of time on websites like atlasoftheuniverse.com because I think it's fucking FASCINATING.

I can say, with total honesty, I love it. And I'm not a religious person, but when I look at images of the Carina Nebula, or read about the detonation of a Type 1a supernova, or even look up AT THE SKY...it's pretty much the "closest I get" to "God".

Or whatever you want to call it.

It's not just a science it's a beautiful thing and it's floating above our heads and I think that makes it fucking magical. AND THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN. AND I HARDLY- HARDLY- KNOW IT ALL. At least I'll admit I don't have a Phd.

But it's a discipline, just like anything else. With laws and rules. Not just any laws- THE LAWS OF PHYSICS. And in THOSE EVEN you can "find God". It's fuckin' fascinating.

And then I come HERE...and I see people whoring out astronomy to fear-monger and scare people into thinking they have to MOVE TO HIGH GROUND or they're going to DIE.

It's shameful.

As if people don't have ENOUGH to fuckin' worry about.

And I look at the "proof" people put forth to back up their claims. "Blue shift"? My God... (by the way I'm pretty sure it was EDWIN Hubble. I don't know who "Gregory" is/was...Maybe I'm wrong...but I don't think I am").

I know about astronomy. And I know people READ THESE THREADS more than THEY POST.

Look at any thread and compare the amount of "posts" to "views". There are MANY lurkers.

So you make your posts. And I'll make mine.

And NO, I won't go to a different thread. Sorry brah. It is a public forum. It's actually a window into how much confidence you DON'T have, you know? To drop the "shill-bomb" and try to "shoo me" off "your thread".

Nope. Sorry, kid. I'm armed with knowledge.

And by the way, people who go to doctors aren't "pussies".

I have SERIOUS DOUBTS if someone you loved (God forbid) ever came down with a serious illness you'd go look up what the "ancients" would've done, like a "real man".

I brought up a bunch of "scientific shit" in my posts. You can "dispute it" anytime.
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lol, I meant EDWIN Hubble, not Gregory
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.


And no, Im not a child. And NO, I didnt just discover this. All I did was try to show you people why these spirals are occuring.


Becareful how you treat the people that are only trying to do what they believe is right. Because it's people like you and that other shill that are going to be the ones with the most fear and tears in their eyes. I've known for a long time that this is coming. I dont need CNN to tell me about. Like some people are waiting for.
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I'm never said you were a "child", per se. I don't know what the hell age you are. I have my reasons for thinking your probably younger-than-21 but if I'm wrong then I'm...wrong.

ha...I don't give a fuck.

And you're inferring I'm "treating" you "badly" I think. I mean...why else are you "warning me" to watching I treat people?

Good sir, it is like this-

YOU posted something on the Website Godlikeproductions.

I, not being able to sleep, logged on. I saw your thread on the first page. "Nibiru"-studies being of interest to me, I tapped your thread.

I read it. Check out what you had to say. I vehemently disagreed with it. And I said why.

I did not call you names.

I did not act inappropriately.

I did fuck with you in any way.

[i}I gave my opinion. And that opinion was in conflict with yours.

Which is how HONEST DEBATES START.

But you have called me a shill, suggested I get off your thread, and advised me to treat people better.

Why couldn't you just...engage me? I don't have a single belief which I can't defend/back up when challenged.

You might disagree with THIS also, but that's MY DEFINITION of a "real man".

I mean...you started a "Nibiru"-thread. Since when are "Nibiru"-threads NOT COMBATIVE around these parts...?

Again...you're free to dispute anything I've written when you're done trying to sweep me (and my opinions) under the couch...

ps- I wouldn't wipe my ass with CNN. When did CNN ever have anything to do with anything in this thread?
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I don't understand why you write things like:
" Take this information which ever way you please..."

and then write a paragraph later:
"This is the real deal folks. The ancients tried warning us with their glyphs on the rock walls of the high lands of the earth and that information has been suppressed."

Which is it? I've actually got respect for the "Nibiru"-enthusiats who actually come and say what they mean. I mean, they're wrong, but they don't half-ass it.

Congratulations though on your recent discovery of "red-shift". You're obviously not an "astronomy-buff"...

(I still get though how you're trying to say "Nibiru" causes spirals...on Earth...or anywhere?)

oh, and re: the ancients. If you were terribly ill, would you want to be treated with the level of medical technology which had been available to the "ancients"?

Probably not. So why are you defining your astronomy-ideas based on what the "ancients" knew? Not that studying the ancients is USELESS. Not at all...But MODERN-DAY ASTRONOMY knocks "Nibiru" out on it's ass every time, despite, unfortunately, what the "ancients" say/said. Or rather, your interpertation of what they wrote in another language on the side of a rock...thousands of years ago.

It...is the truth, man....It just is.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.



You dont understand why I said 'Take this information which ever way you please' ?

Because I've had enough of being shilled to death each and everytime. If you dont agree with what I have to say, you are more then welcome to go to another thread. Nobody is forcing you to read this thread, nor reply to it.

And you also said


'oh, and re: the ancients. If you were terribly ill, would you want to be treated with the level of medical technology which had been available to the "ancients"? '

My answer to that is ABSOLUTELY YES. Because they werent pussies that had to go to the doctor. They knew natural remedies to help themselves and had the skills to live like REAL men in the wilderness.
 Quoting: MG-42

Ha...YOU'RE sick of being "shilled"? Listen:

Astronomy's been a hobby of mine for years. I read books about it. I read dorky magazines about it that my friends laugh at me about. I spend lots of time on websites like atlasoftheuniverse.com because I think it's fucking FASCINATING.

I can say, with total honesty, I love it. And I'm not a religious person, but when I look at images of the Carina Nebula, or read about the detonation of a Type 1a supernova, or even look up AT THE SKY...it's pretty much the "closest I get" to "God".

Or whatever you want to call it.

It's not just a science it's a beautiful thing and it's floating above our heads and I think that makes it fucking magical. AND THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN. AND I HARDLY- HARDLY- KNOW IT ALL. At least I'll admit I don't have a Phd.

But it's a discipline, just like anything else. With laws and rules. Not just any laws- THE LAWS OF PHYSICS. And in THOSE EVEN you can "find God". It's fuckin' fascinating.

And then I come HERE...and I see people whoring out astronomy to fear-monger and scare people into thinking they have to MOVE TO HIGH GROUND or they're going to DIE.

It's shameful.

As if people don't have ENOUGH to fuckin' worry about.

And I look at the "proof" people put forth to back up their claims. "Blue shift"? My God... (by the way I'm pretty sure it was EDWIN Hubble. I don't know who "Gregory" is/was...Maybe I'm wrong...but I don't think I am").

I know about astronomy. And I know people READ THESE THREADS more than THEY POST.

Look at any thread and compare the amount of "posts" to "views". There are MANY lurkers.

So you make your posts. And I'll make mine.

And NO, I won't go to a different thread. Sorry brah. It is a public forum. It's actually a window into how much confidence you DON'T have, you know? To drop the "shill-bomb" and try to "shoo me" off "your thread".

Nope. Sorry, kid. I'm armed with knowledge.

And by the way, people who go to doctors aren't "pussies".

I have SERIOUS DOUBTS if someone you loved (God forbid) ever came down with a serious illness you'd go look up what the "ancients" would've done, like a "real man".

I brought up a bunch of "scientific shit" in my posts. You can "dispute it" anytime.
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I wasnt going to reply to your posts anymore nor the other fellows.. If you think I dont know my science, I absolutely do. But I'm rather tired of these shouting matches each and every single time. I can clearly see that you are trying to be high and mighty. Especially with your last comment about the 'scientific shit'. I've faught many battles with people like you that think they know absolutely everything and would believe that the earth is flat because he's masonically made textbooks have always taught him that. Im not going to get into details this time around.

Not this time. I've gotten into to this many, many times. If you think that I dont know my sciene, you are wrong. And
physics is and always has been one of my strongest subjects and interests but I dont use my own knowledge to pick fights such as you do. You arent worth my time. And Im not a kid. And my age is none of your business.

All I can tell you without out getting into any further details is that I know that bad things are coming. I wont take it any furthure than that. You can use your imagination to debunk what I have just told you all that you want.

It's not me that will be sorry, it's you, and people like you.

Im not fear mongering, and NO. I DONT want this to happen.
I KNOW it's coming.

If you KNEW that something bad was on it's way, wouldnt you try doing the exact same thing that I'm doing ?

I have my reason how I know this stuff is coming. And tend not to share them with people like you who are only looking for a fight.

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MG, go back and read my last post, tell me your thoughts, on page2
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Yeah Art, a lot of us have been having those blue helmet dreams. I wont get into it any further on here but add me to MSN messenger. You have my e-mail. We'll talk on there.

I'll be on later tonight.

Everything you said, is exactly what I dreamed too.
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Here you go people, this should shed some light on the spiral phenomenon...it might be hard to understand, but the second link should help...

[link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu]

[link to www.hidden-truth.org]
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.

Dear AC: As we say in Deutschland. Saugen Mich. Das ist mir wurst what you may think of whether or not this article is peer reviewed. OP did not present it as a scientific paper, it was presented as an article for mature discussion. If you cannot discuss it like an adult then you can meinen Arsch beißen.
Güten Tag, mein freund
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I never said this place was a "non-peer-reviewed" cess pool. I said Youtube is. And it is. And I did AND WOULD caution anyone strongly against educating themselves on...ANYTHING via IT.

I've said this before...there's a reason they don't give out doctorates for time-spent-on-Youtube.

Would YOU want to go to a DOCTOR who was educated via Youtube?

And maybe this was "lost in translation" WHAT PART of my post you quoted ISN'T fit for a "mature discussion"?

Seriously? What problem do you have with ANYTHING I wrote? I thought I was actually being kind of cool about things. WHAT DO YOU THINK MY THIRD PARAGRAPH is? Sarcasm?

I mean it. I'd like answers to those questions.

Can you do it?

ps- Ich NIEN ac. I have a user name.
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.


And no, Im not a child. And NO, I didnt just discover this. All I did was try to show you people why these spirals are occuring.


Becareful how you treat the people that are only trying to do what they believe is right. Because it's people like you and that other shill that are going to be the ones with the most fear and tears in their eyes. I've known for a long time that this is coming. I dont need CNN to tell me about. Like some people are waiting for.
 Quoting: MG-42

I'm never said you were a "child", per se. I don't know what the hell age you are. I have my reasons for thinking your probably younger-than-21 but if I'm wrong then I'm...wrong.

ha...I don't give a fuck.

And you're inferring I'm "treating" you "badly" I think. I mean...why else are you "warning me" to watching I treat people?

Good sir, it is like this-

YOU posted something on the Website Godlikeproductions.

I, not being able to sleep, logged on. I saw your thread on the first page. "Nibiru"-studies being of interest to me, I tapped your thread.

I read it. Check out what you had to say. I vehemently disagreed with it. And I said why.

I did not call you names.

I did not act inappropriately.

I did fuck with you in any way.

[i}I gave my opinion. And that opinion was in conflict with yours.

Which is how HONEST DEBATES START.

But you have called me a shill, suggested I get off your thread, and advised me to treat people better.

Why couldn't you just...engage me? I don't have a single belief which I can't defend/back up when challenged.

You might disagree with THIS also, but that's MY DEFINITION of a "real man".

I mean...you started a "Nibiru"-thread. Since when are "Nibiru"-threads NOT COMBATIVE around these parts...?

Again...you're free to dispute anything I've written when you're done trying to sweep me (and my opinions) under the couch...

ps- I wouldn't wipe my ass with CNN. When did CNN ever have anything to do with anything in this thread?
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.




You seem like you are on a mission or something ?

Is my thread bothering you that friggen much ?
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

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We ALL bleed RED.

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This will be my final attempt to prove to all of you that Nibiru is the real deal.
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I hope that's a PROMISE!!!!!
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.

Dear AC: As we say in Deutschland. Saugen Mich. Das ist mir wurst what you may think of whether or not this article is peer reviewed. OP did not present it as a scientific paper, it was presented as an article for mature discussion. If you cannot discuss it like an adult then you can meinen Arsch beißen.
Güten Tag, mein freund
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1294799

I never said this place was a "non-peer-reviewed" cess pool. I said Youtube is. And it is. And I did AND WOULD caution anyone strongly against educating themselves on...ANYTHING via IT.

I've said this before...there's a reason they don't give out doctorates for time-spent-on-Youtube.

Would YOU want to go to a DOCTOR who was educated via Youtube?

And maybe this was "lost in translation" WHAT PART of my post you quoted ISN'T fit for a "mature discussion"?

Seriously? What problem do you have with ANYTHING I wrote? I thought I was actually being kind of cool about things. WHAT DO YOU THINK MY THIRD PARAGRAPH is? Sarcasm?

I mean it. I'd like answers to those questions.

Can you do it?

ps- Ich NIEN ac. I have a user name.
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NONE OF MY INFORMATION CAME FROM YOUTUBE. I was only using someones quote as a refferance in comparison.

Last Edited by MG-42 on 03/23/2011 05:48 AM
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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This will be my final attempt to prove to all of you that Nibiru is the real deal.
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I hope that's a PROMISE!!!!!
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You will get your wish soon enough.
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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SPIRALS.....


[link to rabbithole2.com]
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And just so we're clear, I looked at both of your "fucktheilluminati jpgs" and basically all I saw were...blurry images.

I'm sorry dude. I know you believe this (or want to) but you're no where near explaining how "Nibiru" could even cause a "spiral".

You're no where near explaining where this object is in they sky, how fast it's coming towards us (that would help your redshift/blueshift measurements, trust me), or WHY it only is visible for a moment which is WHY you had to screenshot it.

Dude, kid (I suspect?), it sounds like you "discovered" the wonders of blueshift/redshift (discovered, I believe, by Edwin Hubble and used as a means to measure VAST cosmic distances and used as proof the universe is, INDEED, expannnnnnnnnnnnnding) and thought that BECAUSE THERE'S A BLUE-COLORED SMUDGE in a spiral video...that it's proof "Nibiru" is coming our way.

It's not. Ironcially I support your Wikipedia'ing this shit though. Eventually you'll get it. Fuck Youtube though. It's a non-peer-reviewed cess pool.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.

Dear AC: As we say in Deutschland. Saugen Mich. Das ist mir wurst what you may think of whether or not this article is peer reviewed. OP did not present it as a scientific paper, it was presented as an article for mature discussion. If you cannot discuss it like an adult then you can meinen Arsch beißen.
Güten Tag, mein freund
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1294799

I never said this place was a "non-peer-reviewed" cess pool. I said Youtube is. And it is. And I did AND WOULD caution anyone strongly against educating themselves on...ANYTHING via IT.

I've said this before...there's a reason they don't give out doctorates for time-spent-on-Youtube.

Would YOU want to go to a DOCTOR who was educated via Youtube?

And maybe this was "lost in translation" WHAT PART of my post you quoted ISN'T fit for a "mature discussion"?

Seriously? What problem do you have with ANYTHING I wrote? I thought I was actually being kind of cool about things. WHAT DO YOU THINK MY THIRD PARAGRAPH is? Sarcasm?

I mean it. I'd like answers to those questions.

Can you do it?

ps- Ich NIEN ac. I have a user name.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.




 Quoting: MG-42


why are you on such a huge crusade ????? Look at the size of your replies. Is my thread really putting that big of a damper on your day that you have to sit here and argue so much ?
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

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We ALL bleed RED.

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SPIRALS.....


[link to rabbithole2.com]
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No sir....scientific data is on these 2 links...

[link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu]

[link to www.hidden-truth.org]
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SPIRALS.....


[link to rabbithole2.com]
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No sir....scientific data is on these 2 links...

[link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu]

[link to www.hidden-truth.org]
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Wow, it's a shilling rampage today

and YES SIR. What the AC above you posted is CORRECT.
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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SPIRALS.....


[link to rabbithole2.com]
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No sir....scientific data is on these 2 links...

[link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu]

[link to www.hidden-truth.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032



Wow, it's a shilling rampage today

and YES SIR. What the AC above you posted is CORRECT.
 Quoting: MG-42


More like, Night of the Living Shills
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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OP on the first page you said "these are not my theories" then on the 3rd page while having an argument with the other poster who disagrees with you said "these ARE MY theories." as you see them.

Myself and the other guy challenged YOUR theory as YOU see it, and tried having a friendly discussion, but yet you have not come back with a supporting argument. I'm all for conspiracy theories if they are valid, and if they can be proven, but so far in this case, on this post I it's just not there. You have continually ignored scientific data...but don't take my word for it, or the other guy who seems to understand science, go research what we were saying for yourself...arguments for and against.

The 2 links I posted about the spiral makes a lot of sense. If your knowledge of science is what you claim it to be then your would understand the theory put forward. So far this was the only thing I found that makes the most sense at explaining what the spirals are...it is very plausible...think of a convection oven, or a hurricane. They both work off the principal of heat vs cold, and that creates the spiral effect.

You know what irks me...and its not just you, it's what most in this place do, they refuse to see the other side of the fence, or at least acknowledge it. If you don't understand the explanation that is being put forward then research the other persons view for yourself! By all means question it, and if you can, disprove it! That's how great conversations come about, but when you blatantly disregard scientific theories and are ignorant to proven facts then of course people will call you out on it!

Anyways, I know I'm probably wasting my breath but what ever...
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More like, Night of the Living Shills
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Just because somebody calls you on your bullshit, it doesn't make them a "shill". And your need to call anybody a "shill" says more about you than it does about them.
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OP on the first page you said "these are not my theories" then on the 3rd page while having an argument with the other poster who disagrees with you said "these ARE MY theories." as you see them.

Myself and the other guy challenged YOUR theory as YOU see it, and tried having a friendly discussion, but yet you have not come back with a supporting argument. I'm all for conspiracy theories if they are valid, and if they can be proven, but so far in this case, on this post I it's just not there. You have continually ignored scientific data...but don't take my word for it, or the other guy who seems to understand science, go research what we were saying for yourself...arguments for and against.

The 2 links I posted about the spiral makes a lot of sense. If your knowledge of science is what you claim it to be then your would understand the theory put forward. So far this was the only thing I found that makes the most sense at explaining what the spirals are...it is very plausible...think of a convection oven, or a hurricane. They both work off the principal of heat vs cold, and that creates the spiral effect.

You know what irks me...and its not just you, it's what most in this place do, they refuse to see the other side of the fence, or at least acknowledge it. If you don't understand the explanation that is being put forward then research the other persons view for yourself! By all means question it, and if you can, disprove it! That's how great conversations come about, but when you blatantly disregard scientific theories and are ignorant to proven facts then of course people will call you out on it!

Anyways, I know I'm probably wasting my breath but what ever...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032



I told you on the main thread, this is my last attempt, take it which ever way you want. Which means, I had no intentions of debating this time around.

It doesnt mean that you guys proved me wrong, nor does it mean that Im affraid to answer your questions. It means that I did not want to debate it on this thread. I gave my information and my opinion, and people can view it which ever way they wish. The info is here for all of your viewing. Discuss it amongst yourselfs if you dont agree with it.

Last Edited by MG-42 on 03/23/2011 06:41 AM
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

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We ALL bleed RED.

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More like, Night of the Living Shills
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Just because somebody calls you on your bullshit, it doesn't make them a "shill". And your need to call anybody a "shill" says more about you than it does about them.
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Wtf is this, pick on MG-42 day ?
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

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We ALL bleed RED.

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