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Has the rapture already happened
Ok this is a possibibly...i am Christian and i was just thinking what if the Rapture already happened and the Trubulations are just starting. Does anyone think this way? Or am i crazy and God is still to come. It says that there will be Christians in end times to steer non beilevers for a second chance....what if the Rapture already happened a long time ago and nobody knew...
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Has the rapture already happened

Yeah dude you missed it...bummer...it was fucking wicked...good shit man...
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The Rapture has not happened and will not happen, fairy tale. What is coming is the WAVE. Thread: THE WAVE/Face of God/The ONE

This is what is meant by the coming of god in the bible.
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The Rapture has not happened and will not happen, fairy tale. What is coming is the WAVE. Thread: THE WAVE/Face of God/The ONE

This is what is meant by the coming of god in the bible.
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what is the "wave" please give me a short too the point summary....
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What ever, If our born again you die twice..

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If you you are born again you revert back to childhood.

People don't need to be born again, they need to grow the fuck up.
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Nope, my mum's the biggest christan out there. Jesus would've taken her first.
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The rapture of alien abductees
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my pastor says that we will know when the rupture comes because there will be christians pilots taken up from airplanes and will smash in the ground and on the freeway all the christian drivers will be taken up to heaven and the cars will have no drivers and will smash into houses and millions will die and also there are many christians train drivers and the trains will smash because they accelerate into the tunnel especially in India where they have christians train drivers and tehy carry about 100 thousand passengers each train and they will fall off the bridges.
so it will be a big disaster and also the rupture will be funny to watch with all the pilots and drivers taken up to heaven.
haha immagine apoliceman about to arrest someone and teh rupture comes hahhaa
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what is the "wave" please give me a short too the point summary....
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Why are you so lazy?
Just read the link already. Sheesh...
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Has the rapture already happened

Yeah dude you missed it...bummer...it was fucking wicked...good shit man...
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lol
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I dont think so,from what it describes its going to be a huge WTF event,everyone alive that remains here will be in panic mode to the extreme.
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Ok this is a possibibly...i am Christian and i was just thinking what if the Rapture already happened and the Trubulations are just starting. Does anyone think this way? Or am i crazy and God is still to come. It says that there will be Christians in end times to steer non beilevers for a second chance....what if the Rapture already happened a long time ago and nobody knew...
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nope we would know cause then

ALL THE FUCKING GOD FREAKS WOULD BE GONE AND THE
WORLD WOULD FINALLY BE LIKE HEAVEN
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Ok this is a possibibly...i am Christian and i was just thinking what if the Rapture already happened and the Trubulations are just starting. Does anyone think this way? Or am i crazy and God is still to come. It says that there will be Christians in end times to steer non beilevers for a second chance....what if the Rapture already happened a long time ago and nobody knew...
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nope we would know cause then

ALL THE FUCKING GOD FREAKS WOULD BE GONE AND THE
WORLD WOULD FINALLY BE LIKE HEAVEN
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If you call heaven hell, then the Lake of Fire is the perfect place for you isn't it?

So why are you so shocked this is where you go?

In Jesus Christ.
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If you call heaven hell, then the Lake of Fire is the perfect place for you isn't it?
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I wouldn't mind it. Jesus is there ;)
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Ok this is a possibibly...i am Christian and i was just thinking what if the Rapture already happened and the Trubulations are just starting. Does anyone think this way? Or am i crazy and God is still to come. It says that there will be Christians in end times to steer non beilevers for a second chance....what if the Rapture already happened a long time ago and nobody knew...
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Yes it happened and it ain't lookin good for you.
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Ok this is a possibibly...i am Christian and i was just thinking what if the Rapture already happened and the Trubulations are just starting. Does anyone think this way? Or am i crazy and God is still to come. It says that there will be Christians in end times to steer non beilevers for a second chance....what if the Rapture already happened a long time ago and nobody knew...
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[link to loveforlife.com.au]
The 1944 Prophecy of Peter(1864-1944 Peter Deunov-Bulgaria.
Excerpt:
The prophecy of Peter Deunov regarding the end of our civilisation and the beginning of the Golden Age on Earth.Also known under the spiritual name of Beinsa Douno,the Bulgarian Master Peter Deunov (1864-1944)was a being of a very high level of consciousness,at the same time an incomparable musician,that gave during his whole life an example of purity,wisdom,intelligence and creativity!

Interesting reading....


hf



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If you you are born again you revert back to childhood.

People don't need to be born again, they need to grow the fuck up.
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Yes, people need to be born again. Their minds are filled with corrupted thoughts and thinking that's programmed there by our evil system. You need to get rid of that. In a way that is to be a child again, a child free and innocent and curious, but with wisdom. That's what it's like to be born again in Jesus Christ. You are not of this world anymore.
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If you you are born again you revert back to childhood.

People don't need to be born again, they need to grow the fuck up.
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In the beginning, Nicodemus said the same thing. "How can a person be born again? How can one reenter their mother's womb?" Jesus told him that one HAS to be "born again", or one cannot enter the Kingdom of God! Think long and hard, and seek the Lord about what this means! Your eternal soul's destination depends on it...
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You raise intriguing points. My thing is, what if the rapture was never meant to happen, what if it's not real and we have been deceived by the false churches out there about a pre-tribulation rapture that will whisk God's believers away up into Heaven (even though the Bible explicitly states that no man goes to Heaven, and so many don't even realize the Bible says this though)? People quote where it says that 2 will be in the field, one taken and another left, or in a house and one taken and another left. But this is very simply speaking of how quickly and like a thief in the night their destruction comes upon them, and also how Jesus Christ comes to them. The point at the end of those passages is to be ready and watchfull.

Another place often quoted it in the book of Revelation, in John's letter to the Church in Philadelphia, whereby he says that God will save them from the hour of trial. This doesn't mean a rapturing into Heaven before the tribulation happens. Can't it mean that they are saved from the trial because they have already been sealed and they won't have the same kind of trial that others have to come to repentence of their ways, because those whom God has sealed have already had their walk of salvation, they have reached their part of their spiritual development where God can look upon them and say, "Now I know you." God won't be rapturing them away into Heaven (especially since Jesus Christ himself stated that no man goes to Heaven, and then later on Peter said something very similar also), but rather they are being spared fro mthe trial because they have already had their trial, and even if they should die in the tribulation, they will be resurrected when Jesus Christ returns near the very ending of the tribulation, so they are already saved (those whom have been sealed).

Most Christians believe that God is working to save the World right now, but this is such a falsehood. Don't you think that if God and Jesus Christ were desperately trying to save the World that they are doing such a piss-poor job of this? No, they aren't trying to save the World right now, and they know the World wouldn't listen anyhow, which is WHY such massive death and destruction MUST come upon all of mankind, because mankind will not listen in any other manner. If Jesus Christ were to return right now to this Earth, we wouldn't listen to him like we think that we would. Christians would probably be so psyched and in such a state of euphoria that they will listen for a few years, but after a while they will say that maybe he really truly isn't from God since it conflicts with so many of their stubbornly long-held beliefs, and really they will see Jesus Christ as hindering them, seeing a lack of freedom of doing whatever they want whenever they want as being not from God because they believe that freedom is what God is all about, when it's not. God is not about freedom, God is about love, and God's Law shows us how to love God as well as how to love our fellow human-beings, but yet not even most Christians want to acknowledge this, they just simply say that God's Law was done away with, was nailed to the cross, when it never ever was done away with. This World was shown God's ways for thousands of years and it has always been rejected, and they have reject those whom God sends.

God doesn't view death in the same manner that we do, especially since He knows that all human-beings will be resurrected at a later point in time. Most people can't see the mercy in death, but death can really truly be very mercifull because what if it's better for us that we don't have to live in this wretched body and life and World any longer, only to be resurrected at a later point in time during a time when this World is a much MUCH better World to live in (the Great White Throne period after Jesus Christ has been ruling in God's Kingdoms on this Earth for a thousand years). Most Christians believe that God's Kingdom is in Heaven, or in our hearts, but yet they never want to quote the Bible as saying that Jesus Christ will be ruling the nations with a rod of iron. How can he rule anything from up in Heaven when the Earth and everybody in it is destroyed on down below? Jesus Christ isn't ruling over the few 144,000 chosen over 6,000 years, no, they don't have to be ruled over because they're already living God's ways. It is the rest of mankind whom have to be ruled over with God's Kingdom. It's amazing to me that most Christian churches are not teaching that Jesus Christ was annointed to be a King OVER US, to rule over us, upon this Earth.

But anyhow, all of this massive death and destruction is absolutely necessary because there is no other manner of bringing man to his knees, to become of a meek and teachable spirit, to finally genuinely desire to listen to the truths of God, which wouldn't happen if Jesus Christ just returned to this Earth right now today or tomorrow. We would still desire to hold onto our current ways of living our lives. The awesome thing is that God can give very great favour to those whom begin believing and repenting, and those will be surviving on into a new age of peace and prosperity. The name Jerusalem means the way of peace, and the name Babylon means the way of confusion. Jerusalem and Babylon greatly oppose each other, they are the diametri opposite of each other. In the book of Revelation where it talks about that great city of Babylon having fallen and then merchants of the Earth mourning this loss of Babylon, it's speaking of all of those whom mourn the loss of their old system, their old way of thinking, their old markets of greed and lust and strife. They will be mourning the loss of the old way because they see it dying.

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Nope, my mum's the biggest christan out there. Jesus would've taken her first.
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Let you ask me this though. Does she believe in the 7th-Day Sabbath, or does she believe that this was done away with along with the rest of God's Law? Does she believe in the Good Friday death/burial and Easter Sunday morning resurrection after 1.5 Days in the Earth when this denies the only sign that was given as the sign of our Messiah? Does she believe the true gospel of Jesus Christ, or is she holding onto the perverted gospel of the personage of Jesus Christ (the personage of Christ is NOT what the gospel is about)? Does she believe in the false doctrine of the Trinity which was around long before Jesus Christ came along? Does she believe in Christmas and what is pictures? Does she believe in Hell?

Is she believes in those things as most Christians do, then she isn't a true Christian, although she would be the kind of christian that this World has created, the one that Satan has strive to gravitate us to because he wants to lead us astray from the truths and ways of God. It all starts with the 7th-Day Sabbath though, because without this, one cannot come to learn about God and His purpose and plan for mankind. People don't think that it's important on what day they come to God, but God says it's important, but yet we don't wanna listen to Him. We are told not to keep the traditions of man, which is precisely what most Christians do. When somebody comes along and tells the truth of God from the Bible, the other ministers tell us not to listen to it, to instead listen to what has been Christian tradition for such a very long time. God says that if anybody says they know the Lord but yet does not keep His commandments then they are a LIAR, but yet most Christians see God's Law as having been done away with, nailed to the cross if you will. You can't be shown the truth regarding the Passover, and without this you cannot enter into the Holy Days to learn about God's plan.

Does your mother believe that she is going to be going to Heaven when she dies? Cuz if so, you might want to show her where Jesus Christ himself says that nobody goes to Heaven but except for he himself.

Aarom
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Ok this is a possibibly...i am Christian and i was just thinking what if the Rapture already happened and the Trubulations are just starting. Does anyone think this way? Or am i crazy and God is still to come. It says that there will be Christians in end times to steer non beilevers for a second chance....what if the Rapture already happened a long time ago and nobody knew...
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The Real shift was December 21, 2010, last year...

All those in THE KNOW, Know this..
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Hey morans, the pre-trib rapture didn't exist until the 18th century when you protestards made it up.
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This made my fucking day, man. HAHAHA
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The Rapture has not happened and will not happen, fairy tale. What is coming is the WAVE. Thread: THE WAVE/Face of God/The ONE

This is what is meant by the coming of god in the bible.
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Your wave of BS is cresting right now. bsflag
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Nope, my mum's the biggest christan out there. Jesus would've taken her first.
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Let you ask me this though. Does she believe in the 7th-Day Sabbath, or does she believe that this was done away with along with the rest of God's Law? Does she believe in the Good Friday death/burial and Easter Sunday morning resurrection after 1.5 Days in the Earth when this denies the only sign that was given as the sign of our Messiah? Does she believe the true gospel of Jesus Christ, or is she holding onto the perverted gospel of the personage of Jesus Christ (the personage of Christ is NOT what the gospel is about)? Does she believe in the false doctrine of the Trinity which was around long before Jesus Christ came along? Does she believe in Christmas and what is pictures? Does she believe in Hell?

Is she believes in those things as most Christians do, then she isn't a true Christian, although she would be the kind of christian that this World has created, the one that Satan has strive to gravitate us to because he wants to lead us astray from the truths and ways of God. It all starts with the 7th-Day Sabbath though, because without this, one cannot come to learn about God and His purpose and plan for mankind. People don't think that it's important on what day they come to God, but God says it's important, but yet we don't wanna listen to Him. We are told not to keep the traditions of man, which is precisely what most Christians do. When somebody comes along and tells the truth of God from the Bible, the other ministers tell us not to listen to it, to instead listen to what has been Christian tradition for such a very long time. God says that if anybody says they know the Lord but yet does not keep His commandments then they are a LIAR, but yet most Christians see God's Law as having been done away with, nailed to the cross if you will. You can't be shown the truth regarding the Passover, and without this you cannot enter into the Holy Days to learn about God's plan.

Does your mother believe that she is going to be going to Heaven when she dies? Cuz if so, you might want to show her where Jesus Christ himself says that nobody goes to Heaven but except for he himself.

Aarom
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How can someone write all this about how his grandmom is not going to heaven, and niether are any of us. Do you skin dogs and eat babies too?
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Ok this is a possibibly...i am Christian and i was just thinking what if the Rapture already happened and the Trubulations are just starting. Does anyone think this way? Or am i crazy and God is still to come. It says that there will be Christians in end times to steer non beilevers for a second chance....what if the Rapture already happened a long time ago and nobody knew...
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Man is tested, when they least expect it. Expect that. I think you feel that something is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. You didnt miss anything, your living it NOW.
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my pastor says that we will know when the rupture comes because there will be christians pilots taken up from airplanes and will smash in the ground and on the freeway all the christian drivers will be taken up to heaven and the cars will have no drivers and will smash into houses and millions will die and also there are many christians train drivers and the trains will smash because they accelerate into the tunnel especially in India where they have christians train drivers and tehy carry about 100 thousand passengers each train and they will fall off the bridges.
so it will be a big disaster and also the rupture will be funny to watch with all the pilots and drivers taken up to heaven.
haha immagine apoliceman about to arrest someone and teh rupture comes hahhaa
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So what happens when we are thrusted full-blown into this horrifying tribulation with nobody being raptured away in a mysterious vanishment? Most of the ministers will be in dead silence because they won't want to admit to their followers that they were wrong all of this whole entire time, because they know that they would lose very much of their membership. But if you ask me, God's Church is not one that is never changing. God has shown us that He gives great correction to His Church, as they are not perfect. Yes, even God's servants to indeed sin, and they can be keeping wrong doctrines, or keep right doctrines in the wrong manner. God's Church has been given so much correction just in the New Testament alone, so any church in existence today that is never changing, but instead constantly clinging onto what they have always believed, none of those churches can be God's Church. The Bible says that there is but one God, one Church, one faith, one baptism, one gospel, and one Christ. This World, and even just in Christianity alone, is in such a great state of confusion, people just don't even know what to believe anymore, causing some people to become atheist, or to never become interested in any kind of religion to begin with.

Christians just say, ohhh Jesus Christ might not be returning for over 100 years from now. Do you have any idea what this does to people? They don't even wanna try to walk in the light of God's truth, or keep God's ways, because they see Jesus Christ as being so very far off from returning anytime soon. We need to always have a sense of urgency, which is why the Bible talks about us conducting our lives as if the day of Christ was already at hand.

What will you do if nobody is raptured away when there is massive death and destruction everywhere? Will you begin realizing that you were lied to for most of your entire life (although most churches don't know that they are lying, they are deceived just as much as the rest of us are) ?

Aaron
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If you you are born again you revert back to childhood.

People don't need to be born again, they need to grow the fuck up.
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Yes, people need to be born again. Their minds are filled with corrupted thoughts and thinking that's programmed there by our evil system. You need to get rid of that. In a way that is to be a child again, a child free and innocent and curious, but with wisdom. That's what it's like to be born again in Jesus Christ. You are not of this world anymore.
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One is "born again" when they are changed from physical to spirit, from mortal to immortal. We aren't "born again" and remain human-beings, this is not what being born again is all about. We are literally born again into a composition of spirit.

Aaron
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THE RAPTURE WAS MADE UP IN THE 18TH CENTURY. WAKE UP PEOPLE

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