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Has the rapture already happened

 
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THE RAPTURE WAS MADE UP IN THE 18TH CENTURY. WAKE UP PEOPLE
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YOUR MOM WAS MADE IN THE 18TH CENTURY
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If you you are born again you revert back to childhood.

People don't need to be born again, they need to grow the fuck up.
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In the beginning, Nicodemus said the same thing. "How can a person be born again? How can one reenter their mother's womb?" Jesus told him that one HAS to be "born again", or one cannot enter the Kingdom of God! Think long and hard, and seek the Lord about what this means! Your eternal soul's destination depends on it...
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The Bible doesn't teach that we have an immortal soul inherrent within ourselves, which would essentially mean that we already have eternal life, regardless of whether it's going to Heaven or Hell, but we are told that we only have eternal life if We follow Him. Satan has wanted us to believe that we have an immortal soul within ourselves. When the Bible talks about a living soul, this is talking about a physical life, as it also speaks of the other animals living creatues as being living souls also, the same word in the Hebrew.

The apostles would speak of the spirit that is in man, but this isn't an immortal soul that human-beings have. The spirit in man is just very simply the spirit-essence that man was given to be different than the animals, to be able to think and to reason, to make choices and decisions. God's Holy Spirit can communicate to this spirit-essence, to this spirit in man. But Satan and his demons can also communicate to this spirit-essence, which is why God labels Satan as the prince of the power of the air, it's like they can broadcast to our minds through the air. Don't ever think that Satan is no match for you thinking that God will always show you the truth and keep Satan away from you, as the Bible says that Satan deceives the WHOLE WORLD.

Where can your eternal soul go if you believe and follow God? If you think it's Heaven, then you better begin believing what Jesus Christ said about this, as he said it himself.

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I dont think that it has happened yet, period. Because for one, we are just entering the times of the tribulation. As for the "rapture" . I believe it will be a mass alien abduction event. this fits in nicely with Ezekiels description of the heavenly chariot. He was an abductee. i believe that the basic concept of the rapture is somewhat true, but there is way more to it. It has nothing to do with whether one is "good enough". It has everything to do with the preservation of the human species. Not everyone on earth could go on the ships however, that is why people who die on earth will be born on a new earthlike planet. People who are selected for the ships have implants. Most people who have implants already suspect that they do, for one, they have the dreams of being on the ships, or the actual procedure, or remember the faces of those that implanted them. Although there are some that cannot remember any of that, but are found to be highly cognitive of a future event, and have heightened psychic abilities. These are signs of having an implant. Even if a person isnt implanted, they can have heart knowing that they won't be born on this wretched planet in the next life, because soon life on earth won't be life sustaining for a long long time. Rebirth will occur elsewhere.
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If you you are born again you revert back to childhood.

People don't need to be born again, they need to grow the fuck up.
 Quoting: Phalidity


In the beginning, Nicodemus said the same thing. "How can a person be born again? How can one reenter their mother's womb?" Jesus told him that one HAS to be "born again", or one cannot enter the Kingdom of God! Think long and hard, and seek the Lord about what this means! Your eternal soul's destination depends on it...
 Quoting: CHRISTian 1310112



The Bible doesn't teach that we have an immortal soul inherrent within ourselves, which would essentially mean that we already have eternal life, regardless of whether it's going to Heaven or Hell, but we are told that we only have eternal life if We follow Him. Satan has wanted us to believe that we have an immortal soul within ourselves. When the Bible talks about a living soul, this is talking about a physical life, as it also speaks of the other animals living creatues as being living souls also, the same word in the Hebrew.

The apostles would speak of the spirit that is in man, but this isn't an immortal soul that human-beings have. The spirit in man is just very simply the spirit-essence that man was given to be different than the animals, to be able to think and to reason, to make choices and decisions. God's Holy Spirit can communicate to this spirit-essence, to this spirit in man. But Satan and his demons can also communicate to this spirit-essence, which is why God labels Satan as the prince of the power of the air, it's like they can broadcast to our minds through the air. Don't ever think that Satan is no match for you thinking that God will always show you the truth and keep Satan away from you, as the Bible says that Satan deceives the WHOLE WORLD.

Where can your eternal soul go if you believe and follow God? If you think it's Heaven, then you better begin believing what Jesus Christ said about this, as he said it himself.

Aaron
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He is a real pain sometimes eh? I am somtimes amazed at how subtle his workings are.
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Nope, my mum's the biggest christan out there. Jesus would've taken her first.
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Let you ask me this though. Does she believe in the 7th-Day Sabbath, or does she believe that this was done away with along with the rest of God's Law? Does she believe in the Good Friday death/burial and Easter Sunday morning resurrection after 1.5 Days in the Earth when this denies the only sign that was given as the sign of our Messiah? Does she believe the true gospel of Jesus Christ, or is she holding onto the perverted gospel of the personage of Jesus Christ (the personage of Christ is NOT what the gospel is about)? Does she believe in the false doctrine of the Trinity which was around long before Jesus Christ came along? Does she believe in Christmas and what is pictures? Does she believe in Hell?

Is she believes in those things as most Christians do, then she isn't a true Christian, although she would be the kind of christian that this World has created, the one that Satan has strive to gravitate us to because he wants to lead us astray from the truths and ways of God. It all starts with the 7th-Day Sabbath though, because without this, one cannot come to learn about God and His purpose and plan for mankind. People don't think that it's important on what day they come to God, but God says it's important, but yet we don't wanna listen to Him. We are told not to keep the traditions of man, which is precisely what most Christians do. When somebody comes along and tells the truth of God from the Bible, the other ministers tell us not to listen to it, to instead listen to what has been Christian tradition for such a very long time. God says that if anybody says they know the Lord but yet does not keep His commandments then they are a LIAR, but yet most Christians see God's Law as having been done away with, nailed to the cross if you will. You can't be shown the truth regarding the Passover, and without this you cannot enter into the Holy Days to learn about God's plan.

Does your mother believe that she is going to be going to Heaven when she dies? Cuz if so, you might want to show her where Jesus Christ himself says that nobody goes to Heaven but except for he himself.

Aarom
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How can someone write all this about how his grandmom is not going to heaven, and niether are any of us. Do you skin dogs and eat babies too?
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I'm stating this because I'm sure that she claims to believe in Jesus Christ, having faith in Jesus Christ, but if she or any other Christian believes that they or anybody else are going to Heaven when they die, they might wanna re-read what Jesus Christ said, because believing that you can gain entrance into Heaven is to very much deny Jesus Christ because they would be denying what he so very clearly stated. Jesus Christ stated that no man ascends into Heaven exceot he whom came down from Heaven which is the Son Of Man. Then later on, Peter was speaking of the patriarch David, saying that David has not ascended into Heaven, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. So tell me, how can anybody rightly believe that they can gain entrance into Heaven when not even King David, a prophet of God and somebody whom was said to be after God's own heart, that not even King David ascended into Heaven? Why are most Christians trying to make it up into Heaven when their own Saviour whom they profes to love and believe and follow, Jesus Christ, himself states that no man goes to Heaven but except for that of one?

I know this comes as a great shock that nobody goes to Heaven, but we've got to stop believing what we have been taught for our whole entire lives. This World has been deceived for such a very long time, since the very dawn of humanity, and we have to at least believe the things that God and Jesus Christ said and did, because otherwise we do not have faith in Jesus Christ, and we are not following Jesus Christ. This World is about to be given such great correction, a humbling correction, such great massive destruction that those whom survive will finally genuinely desire to listen to what is true, to be open and willing to hear the whats and the whys.

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Yes, people need to be born again. Their minds are filled with corrupted thoughts and thinking that's programmed there by our evil system. You need to get rid of that. In a way that is to be a child again, a child free and innocent and curious, but with wisdom. That's what it's like to be born again in Jesus Christ. You are not of this world anymore.
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One is "born again" when they are changed from physical to spirit, from mortal to immortal. We aren't "born again" and remain human-beings, this is not what being born again is all about. We are literally born again into a composition of spirit.

Aaron
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No Aaron, you are talking about the resurrection, or the transformation. That happens in the twinkling of an eye at the last trump. To be born again is a personal change in this world.
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I'm stating this because I'm sure that she claims to believe in Jesus Christ, having faith in Jesus Christ, but if she or any other Christian believes that they or anybody else are going to Heaven when they die, they might wanna re-read what Jesus Christ said, because believing that you can gain entrance into Heaven is to very much deny Jesus Christ because they would be denying what he so very clearly stated. Jesus Christ stated that no man ascends into Heaven exceot he whom came down from Heaven which is the Son Of Man. Then later on, Peter was speaking of the patriarch David, saying that David has not ascended into Heaven, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. So tell me, how can anybody rightly believe that they can gain entrance into Heaven when not even King David, a prophet of God and somebody whom was said to be after God's own heart, that not even King David ascended into Heaven? Why are most Christians trying to make it up into Heaven when their own Saviour whom they profes to love and believe and follow, Jesus Christ, himself states that no man goes to Heaven but except for that of one?

I know this comes as a great shock that nobody goes to Heaven, but we've got to stop believing what we have been taught for our whole entire lives. This World has been deceived for such a very long time, since the very dawn of humanity, and we have to at least believe the things that God and Jesus Christ said and did, because otherwise we do not have faith in Jesus Christ, and we are not following Jesus Christ. This World is about to be given such great correction, a humbling correction, such great massive destruction that those whom survive will finally genuinely desire to listen to what is true, to be open and willing to hear the whats and the whys.

Aaron
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Sorry Aaron, you're full of BS.
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If you you are born again you revert back to childhood.

People don't need to be born again, they need to grow the fuck up.
 Quoting: Phalidity


In the beginning, Nicodemus said the same thing. "How can a person be born again? How can one reenter their mother's womb?" Jesus told him that one HAS to be "born again", or one cannot enter the Kingdom of God! Think long and hard, and seek the Lord about what this means! Your eternal soul's destination depends on it...
 Quoting: CHRISTian 1310112



The Bible doesn't teach that we have an immortal soul inherrent within ourselves, which would essentially mean that we already have eternal life, regardless of whether it's going to Heaven or Hell, but we are told that we only have eternal life if We follow Him. Satan has wanted us to believe that we have an immortal soul within ourselves. When the Bible talks about a living soul, this is talking about a physical life, as it also speaks of the other animals living creatues as being living souls also, the same word in the Hebrew.

The apostles would speak of the spirit that is in man, but this isn't an immortal soul that human-beings have. The spirit in man is just very simply the spirit-essence that man was given to be different than the animals, to be able to think and to reason, to make choices and decisions. God's Holy Spirit can communicate to this spirit-essence, to this spirit in man. But Satan and his demons can also communicate to this spirit-essence, which is why God labels Satan as the prince of the power of the air, it's like they can broadcast to our minds through the air. Don't ever think that Satan is no match for you thinking that God will always show you the truth and keep Satan away from you, as the Bible says that Satan deceives the WHOLE WORLD.

Where can your eternal soul go if you believe and follow God? If you think it's Heaven, then you better begin believing what Jesus Christ said about this, as he said it himself.

Aaron
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He is a real pain sometimes eh? I am somtimes amazed at how subtle his workings are.
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I love how you say how subtle his working are, because this is one of the cruxes as to why so many people, even many Christians, just don't believe that he exists, or don't believe that Satan is working in their minds. Now, first and foremost, we are all responsible for our own choices, decisions, and actions, Satan is only partially responsible, but we still bear the ultimate responsibility of doing what is right and good. But however, Satan and his demons do broadcast to the mind, they can stir-up feelings and emotions in such a great manner. This is one reason why people can be fine one moment and then be so very stirred-up in the next moment. The subtlely comes from us not feeling that we are being spiritually swayed. Even with those whom God works with, everything that happens to them is felt physically, even mentally it's still physical. Everything feels so natural, whether it's God working with them or Satan working with them, everything feels so natural that they often just don't even realize that they are being worked with in some form or another.

Satan wants for us to be angry with our fellow human-beings, and even the subtlties of society, Satan plays such a very big roll in this, making us feel that every sway and bump and writhingness of our bodies feels so good and right and pleasurefull, and the music that we listen to, it's so often very captivating. I mean, we all have human nature anyhow so our carnal minds are already susceptible to all of this anyhow, but Satan just accelerates this process, which is actually a good thing because otherwise we would have to come to learn these things over millions upon millions of years instead of just thousands of years. God is actually being very mercifull to us in allowing Satan to be doing what he's doing. Furthermore, the existence of evil is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY in God's purpose for all things, which is for His Family of Elohim? This might soulnd shocking at first, but is actually so very simple for those whom have ears to ear. Evil is necessary because otherwise we would never come to understand why the ways of God ARE TRULY the only right ways of living life, the ONLY ways which produce lasting peace for everybody.This is why God created us with carnal minds which would be in enmity against Him. God created us with minds that would be naturally against Him.

This unlike the angels which were created with minds to be for God, and so once iniquity was found in Lucifer (probably over millions or billions of years because having minds geared to FAVOUR God takes a long time to pollute), but eventually pride was found in Satan, and he didn't believe that God's ways were the only right ways of living life, and he wanted more and more and more, and then once God revealed to them His plan for His Family, that he would create mankind on this Earth to eventually become higher than the angels, this just set Lucifer over the edge of the abyss of pride. He was so very livid with God that he would create these mindless cockroaches only to make them higher than the angels, and even more than just being higher than his fellow angels, he was even more concerned with human-beings becoming higher than he himself.

This is why the existence of evil is so very necessary for us to come to see the starkly difference between good and evil, between the ways of God and the ways of Satan, between the ways of "giving" and the ways of "getting". If it weren't for evil, then God could never ever trust us to be part of His Family of Elohim, which not even the righteous angels are a part of. God's "cause" all along has been to share His life, which is all about His mind, by creating a family. One beautifull manner of summing this up would be to say that God is reproducing Himself by reproducing His mind and His will in us, but unfortauntely, this cannot just be robotically planted into our minds like robotically-programmed automatons, because where would the genuine spirit be? We would just be bumbling around mindlessly obeying every wish and command of God. God doesn't want to FORCE us to obey Him, God wants us to WANT and CHOOSE to obey Him because we whole-heartedly believe that His ways are the only right ways of peace, and the only way we could ever come to see this is by first showing us what evil is like, showing us what evil produces and what kind of lives we live and what the World becomes when there is evil in it.

This is why God shortened the life-span of human-beings from many many hundreds of years to just 120 years, because when able to live for some 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 years, you can come to master the ways of evil, SO MUCH MORE SO than the evil that is in the World today. God described the World before the flood as doing "evil continually". And how un-gratefull were Noah's children after this great flooding and destruction of the Earth after all of the mocking only to see that it was all true and came to pass by their Eternal God Himself? They ended-up not being gratefull, and led lives in sin. This is why it takes so very much to break our prides, to break our conditionings, this is why it takes massive death and destruction for those whom will listen to listen, although the vast majority will still not listen and will just have to die only to be resurrected at a later point in time, in a much better World that isn't under the rulership of Satan, which the Bible explicitly states is the case today, it says that Satan is the god of this World. Even after all of the massive death and destruction during this great tribulation, still most will not repent of their ways because our minds so very stubbornly don't want to admit that we have been wrong, or feel that we are still right because we couldn't have been lied to about so many things for all of our entire lives.

Aaron
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Yes, people need to be born again. Their minds are filled with corrupted thoughts and thinking that's programmed there by our evil system. You need to get rid of that. In a way that is to be a child again, a child free and innocent and curious, but with wisdom. That's what it's like to be born again in Jesus Christ. You are not of this world anymore.
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One is "born again" when they are changed from physical to spirit, from mortal to immortal. We aren't "born again" and remain human-beings, this is not what being born again is all about. We are literally born again into a composition of spirit.

Aaron
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No Aaron, you are talking about the resurrection, or the transformation. That happens in the twinkling of an eye at the last trump. To be born again is a personal change in this world.
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Show me where you find that it is speaking of being born again as remaining a physical human-being while changing their ways.
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I'm stating this because I'm sure that she claims to believe in Jesus Christ, having faith in Jesus Christ, but if she or any other Christian believes that they or anybody else are going to Heaven when they die, they might wanna re-read what Jesus Christ said, because believing that you can gain entrance into Heaven is to very much deny Jesus Christ because they would be denying what he so very clearly stated. Jesus Christ stated that no man ascends into Heaven exceot he whom came down from Heaven which is the Son Of Man. Then later on, Peter was speaking of the patriarch David, saying that David has not ascended into Heaven, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. So tell me, how can anybody rightly believe that they can gain entrance into Heaven when not even King David, a prophet of God and somebody whom was said to be after God's own heart, that not even King David ascended into Heaven? Why are most Christians trying to make it up into Heaven when their own Saviour whom they profes to love and believe and follow, Jesus Christ, himself states that no man goes to Heaven but except for that of one?

I know this comes as a great shock that nobody goes to Heaven, but we've got to stop believing what we have been taught for our whole entire lives. This World has been deceived for such a very long time, since the very dawn of humanity, and we have to at least believe the things that God and Jesus Christ said and did, because otherwise we do not have faith in Jesus Christ, and we are not following Jesus Christ. This World is about to be given such great correction, a humbling correction, such great massive destruction that those whom survive will finally genuinely desire to listen to what is true, to be open and willing to hear the whats and the whys.

Aaron
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Sorry Aaron, you're full of BS.
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May I ask why though? Do you even believe in God and the Bible? If you don't, then of course this won't even matter to you, but if you do, then don't you wanna believe the person you claim to have faith in. What do you believe in though ?
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Nope, my mum's the biggest christan out there. Jesus would've taken her first.
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Let you ask me this though. Does she believe in the 7th-Day Sabbath, or does she believe that this was done away with along with the rest of God's Law? Does she believe in the Good Friday death/burial and Easter Sunday morning resurrection after 1.5 Days in the Earth when this denies the only sign that was given as the sign of our Messiah? Does she believe the true gospel of Jesus Christ, or is she holding onto the perverted gospel of the personage of Jesus Christ (the personage of Christ is NOT what the gospel is about)? Does she believe in the false doctrine of the Trinity which was around long before Jesus Christ came along? Does she believe in Christmas and what is pictures? Does she believe in Hell?

Is she believes in those things as most Christians do, then she isn't a true Christian, although she would be the kind of christian that this World has created, the one that Satan has strive to gravitate us to because he wants to lead us astray from the truths and ways of God. It all starts with the 7th-Day Sabbath though, because without this, one cannot come to learn about God and His purpose and plan for mankind. People don't think that it's important on what day they come to God, but God says it's important, but yet we don't wanna listen to Him. We are told not to keep the traditions of man, which is precisely what most Christians do. When somebody comes along and tells the truth of God from the Bible, the other ministers tell us not to listen to it, to instead listen to what has been Christian tradition for such a very long time. God says that if anybody says they know the Lord but yet does not keep His commandments then they are a LIAR, but yet most Christians see God's Law as having been done away with, nailed to the cross if you will. You can't be shown the truth regarding the Passover, and without this you cannot enter into the Holy Days to learn about God's plan.

Does your mother believe that she is going to be going to Heaven when she dies? Cuz if so, you might want to show her where Jesus Christ himself says that nobody goes to Heaven but except for he himself.

Aarom
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How can someone write all this about how his grandmom is not going to heaven, and niether are any of us. Do you skin dogs and eat babies too?
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I'm stating this because I'm sure that she claims to believe in Jesus Christ, having faith in Jesus Christ, but if she or any other Christian believes that they or anybody else are going to Heaven when they die, they might wanna re-read what Jesus Christ said, because believing that you can gain entrance into Heaven is to very much deny Jesus Christ because they would be denying what he so very clearly stated. Jesus Christ stated that no man ascends into Heaven exceot he whom came down from Heaven which is the Son Of Man. Then later on, Peter was speaking of the patriarch David, saying that David has not ascended into Heaven, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. So tell me, how can anybody rightly believe that they can gain entrance into Heaven when not even King David, a prophet of God and somebody whom was said to be after God's own heart, that not even King David ascended into Heaven? Why are most Christians trying to make it up into Heaven when their own Saviour whom they profes to love and believe and follow, Jesus Christ, himself states that no man goes to Heaven but except for that of one?

I know this comes as a great shock that nobody goes to Heaven, but we've got to stop believing what we have been taught for our whole entire lives. This World has been deceived for such a very long time, since the very dawn of humanity, and we have to at least believe the things that God and Jesus Christ said and did, because otherwise we do not have faith in Jesus Christ, and we are not following Jesus Christ. This World is about to be given such great correction, a humbling correction, such great massive destruction that those whom survive will finally genuinely desire to listen to what is true, to be open and willing to hear the whats and the whys.

Aaron
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Ok...first of all it says in the bible that God has a kingdom for every single one of us and we go to Heaven....so what are you suspecting we go to when we die? Mars? Jupiter? C'mon your preaching falsely God has a special place for us in Heaven idk what your talking about.
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The first rapture will not take place all at once. It will happen over time. The process has already begun.

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If you you are born again you revert back to childhood.

People don't need to be born again, they need to grow the fuck up.
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In the beginning, Nicodemus said the same thing. "How can a person be born again? How can one reenter their mother's womb?" Jesus told him that one HAS to be "born again", or one cannot enter the Kingdom of God! Think long and hard, and seek the Lord about what this means! Your eternal soul's destination depends on it...
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If you you are born again you revert back to childhood.

People don't need to be born again, they need to grow the fuck up.
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In the beginning, Nicodemus said the same thing. "How can a person be born again? How can one reenter their mother's womb?" Jesus told him that one HAS to be "born again", or one cannot enter the Kingdom of God! Think long and hard, and seek the Lord about what this means! Your eternal soul's destination depends on it...
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Ok this is a possibibly...i am Christian and i was just thinking what if the Rapture already happened and the Trubulations are just starting. Does anyone think this way? Or am i crazy and God is still to come. It says that there will be Christians in end times to steer non beilevers for a second chance....what if the Rapture already happened a long time ago and nobody knew...
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Start steering!
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Nope, my mum's the biggest christan out there. Jesus would've taken her first.
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Let you ask me this though. Does she believe in the 7th-Day Sabbath, or does she believe that this was done away with along with the rest of God's Law? Does she believe in the Good Friday death/burial and Easter Sunday morning resurrection after 1.5 Days in the Earth when this denies the only sign that was given as the sign of our Messiah? Does she believe the true gospel of Jesus Christ, or is she holding onto the perverted gospel of the personage of Jesus Christ (the personage of Christ is NOT what the gospel is about)? Does she believe in the false doctrine of the Trinity which was around long before Jesus Christ came along? Does she believe in Christmas and what is pictures? Does she believe in Hell?

Is she believes in those things as most Christians do, then she isn't a true Christian, although she would be the kind of christian that this World has created, the one that Satan has strive to gravitate us to because he wants to lead us astray from the truths and ways of God. It all starts with the 7th-Day Sabbath though, because without this, one cannot come to learn about God and His purpose and plan for mankind. People don't think that it's important on what day they come to God, but God says it's important, but yet we don't wanna listen to Him. We are told not to keep the traditions of man, which is precisely what most Christians do. When somebody comes along and tells the truth of God from the Bible, the other ministers tell us not to listen to it, to instead listen to what has been Christian tradition for such a very long time. God says that if anybody says they know the Lord but yet does not keep His commandments then they are a LIAR, but yet most Christians see God's Law as having been done away with, nailed to the cross if you will. You can't be shown the truth regarding the Passover, and without this you cannot enter into the Holy Days to learn about God's plan.

Does your mother believe that she is going to be going to Heaven when she dies? Cuz if so, you might want to show her where Jesus Christ himself says that nobody goes to Heaven but except for he himself.

Aarom
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How can someone write all this about how his grandmom is not going to heaven, and niether are any of us. Do you skin dogs and eat babies too?
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I'm stating this because I'm sure that she claims to believe in Jesus Christ, having faith in Jesus Christ, but if she or any other Christian believes that they or anybody else are going to Heaven when they die, they might wanna re-read what Jesus Christ said, because believing that you can gain entrance into Heaven is to very much deny Jesus Christ because they would be denying what he so very clearly stated. Jesus Christ stated that no man ascends into Heaven exceot he whom came down from Heaven which is the Son Of Man. Then later on, Peter was speaking of the patriarch David, saying that David has not ascended into Heaven, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. So tell me, how can anybody rightly believe that they can gain entrance into Heaven when not even King David, a prophet of God and somebody whom was said to be after God's own heart, that not even King David ascended into Heaven? Why are most Christians trying to make it up into Heaven when their own Saviour whom they profes to love and believe and follow, Jesus Christ, himself states that no man goes to Heaven but except for that of one?

I know this comes as a great shock that nobody goes to Heaven, but we've got to stop believing what we have been taught for our whole entire lives. This World has been deceived for such a very long time, since the very dawn of humanity, and we have to at least believe the things that God and Jesus Christ said and did, because otherwise we do not have faith in Jesus Christ, and we are not following Jesus Christ. This World is about to be given such great correction, a humbling correction, such great massive destruction that those whom survive will finally genuinely desire to listen to what is true, to be open and willing to hear the whats and the whys.

Aaron
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God is the God of "due process", no waiting around on his part. If you are in the ground 1 day or 1000's of years, you are imediately at the judgement. That is were the Christ is the Gatekeeper.
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The first rapture will not take place all at once. It will happen over time. The process has already begun.

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Your saying God is taking people to Heaven in groups not all at once?
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The first rapture will not take place all at once. It will happen over time. The process has already begun.

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Your saying God is taking people to Heaven in groups not all at once?
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That sounds right. Platinum Tithers are first in line for everything ;)

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Re: Has the rapture already happened
Nope, my mum's the biggest christan out there. Jesus would've taken her first.
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Same here, she's actually a good person to boot.


Prsonally I don't think it's a literal event.
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no there has not been a rapture no there will not be a rapture as the way it is preached at us....and yes we are already in the tribulation......and have been for sometime now......climax is now building to the explosion point.
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Alright you guys when all you rude people are left here after God comes dont say we didn't tell you so.... GOD IS REAL AND HE LOVES ALL OF YOU!!

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