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PARKER SPIRAL Connects a Back Sided Plasma Cloud Erupting from Sun to Earth in a Rare Solar Event

 
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This post comes from another thread, Thread: Rare Space Weather Event ! but the OP never came back on. So, I'm going to post it again, with an explanation of this rare and incredible solar event.

There was a Coronal Mass Ejection ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SUN THAT HAS MAGNETICALLY CONNECTED WITH THE EARTH.

Below is a warning that was issued due to proton flux increases.


PRESTO ALERT

Fast warning for important solar events with implications for the space environment. Source SIDC (RWC-Belgium)
Frequency ASAP, when needed.

The proton flux measured by GOES13 increased this morning. The storm threshold is not reached. We don't expect the threshold to be passed.
A back sided plasma cloud came into view of STEREO B COR2 at 02:54UT, March 21, 2011. This CME is probably associated with the increased proton levels. The Earth is magnetically connected with the source site behind the Sun. The Parker spiral has bended magnetic field lines that guide the electrically charged protons. The Earth is near such field lines along which these protons travel. This is a rare event.

Details
Not available yet.

[link to www.sidc.be]


__________________________________________

So, this is what all that means, and I even put a pretty picture in the explanation so it is a little easier to visualize how a CME can erupt on the back-side of the sun, and still effect Earth. IMO, that is absolutely amazing!

They are talking about the Parker Spiral.

The spiral shape is similar to the pattern produced by a spinning lawn sprinkler, for similar reasons: the solar wind travels outward from the Sun at a uniform rate, but an individual jet of solar wind from a particular feature on the Sun's surface rotates with the solar rotation, making a spiral pattern in space. Unlike the jet from a sprinkler, the solar wind is tied to the magnetic field by MHD effects, so that magnetic field lines are tied to the material in the jet and take on an arithmetic spiral shape.

Here's a picture of it...

:parkerspiral:

See how the magnetic field lines actually look like a 'spinning wave' being emitted from the sun. Well, to be technical, the shape is this: Unlike the familiar shape of the field from a bar magnet, the Sun's extended field is twisted into an arithmetic spiral by the magnetohydrodynamic influence of the solar wind.

So, the CME exploded on the other side of the sun, and it gets caught up in the magnetic wave of the Parker Spiral, pulling the CME around the curve of the sun. You can imagine it with the picture above...the CME following the Parker Spiral around. Well, as it is doing it, it comes in contact with Earth's magnetic field, and pulls it in Earth's direction...

Pretty fucking cool!
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Very cool stuff, love your sig by the way.
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Is it the same as this website?:
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Lots of "rare events" taking place lately.Funny how the spiral keeps popping up.
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Lots of "rare events" taking place lately.Funny how the spiral keeps popping up.
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...and electricity, magnetics and PLASMA
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Lots of "rare events" taking place lately.Funny how the spiral keeps popping up.
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...and electricity, magnetics and PLASMA
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There is a crop circle on this fellas....... 100% sure...
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Lots of "rare events" taking place lately.Funny how the spiral keeps popping up.
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...and electricity, magnetics and PLASMA
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There is a crop circle on this fellas....... 100% sure...
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hmm
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Very cool stuff, love your sig by the way.
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Is it the same as this website?:
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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To be honest, I'm not sure Pilot.
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Lots of "rare events" taking place lately.Funny how the spiral keeps popping up.
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...and electricity, magnetics and PLASMA
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i'm already convinced plasma is the most important and misunderstood thing in the known universe. the implications of this story are compelling to say the least!

5 star, suggest pin :D
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Lots of "rare events" taking place lately.Funny how the spiral keeps popping up.
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...and electricity, magnetics and PLASMA
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i'm already convinced plasma is the most important and misunderstood thing in the known universe. the implications of this story are compelling to say the least!

5 star, suggest pin :D
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Just for the fact that plasma makes up 99.9% of the known universe makes it important! But yeah, I know what you mean.
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SS--There was also a thread about 6 months ago or so which talked about how CME`s can actually changed directions. If my memory serves me correctly it was a NASA link. I don`t have a link but I`m sure you probably remember it..I wander if that kind of ties into what you are pointing out..
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99.9% of the Universe Displays - Life-Like, Self-Organizing Properties, has Tendency to Form Cellular/Filamentary Structures - PLASMA
What is Plasma?

Plasma is the fourth state of matter. It differs from solids, liquids and gases in so far as it's atoms are divided into free-floating 'negative' electrons and 'positive' ions (an atom which has lost its electron/s). It is sometimes referred to as an ionized gas.

Students are generally taught about only three states of matter, and when Plasma does get a mention, little importance is assigned. Not only should plasma be added to the list, but the order should be reversed to put it in first place. The reasons for this will become clear.

The term Plasma was borrowed from blood plasma in order to describe its almost life-like and self-organising properties.

Plasma sometimes emits light when under the excitation of electrical and magnetic fields. Polar auroras bear witness to this fact.

[link to www.plasmacosmology.net]

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SS--There was also a thread about 6 months ago or so which talked about how CME`s can actually changed directions. If my memory serves me correctly it was a NASA link. I don`t have a link but I`m sure you probably remember it..I wander if that kind of ties into what you are pointing out..
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Now that you brought that up, I remember what you're referencing to.
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Lots of "rare events" taking place lately.Funny how the spiral keeps popping up.
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...and electricity, magnetics and PLASMA
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everywhere...
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5 star, suggest pin :D
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Makes me think about two weeks ago when the magnetosphere was being hit non-stop for about three days..If plasma is being pulled in from an angle it would cause the effect to last longer on our magnetosphere..It sure wasn`t a coronal wind that blew at us that strong for three days..

Yep SS that article didn`t really give an explanation, or at least a clear one if I remember right. This could explain their theory from that article.
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Makes me think about two weeks ago when the magnetosphere was being hit non-stop for about three days..If plasma is being pulled in from an angle it would cause the effect to last longer on our magnetosphere..It sure wasn`t a coronal wind that blew at us that strong for three days..

Yep SS that article didn`t really give an explanation, or at least a clear one if I remember right. This could explain their theory from that article.
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ohyeah
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This post comes from another thread, Thread: Rare Space Weather Event ! but the OP never came back on. So, I'm going to post it again, with an explanation of this rare and incredible solar event.

There was a Coronal Mass Ejection ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SUN THAT HAS MAGNETICALLY CONNECTED WITH THE EARTH.

Below is a warning that was issued due to proton flux increases.


PRESTO ALERT

Fast warning for important solar events with implications for the space environment. Source SIDC (RWC-Belgium)
Frequency ASAP, when needed.

The proton flux measured by GOES13 increased this morning. The storm threshold is not reached. We don't expect the threshold to be passed.
A back sided plasma cloud came into view of STEREO B COR2 at 02:54UT, March 21, 2011. This CME is probably associated with the increased proton levels. The Earth is magnetically connected with the source site behind the Sun. The Parker spiral has bended magnetic field lines that guide the electrically charged protons. The Earth is near such field lines along which these protons travel. This is a rare event.

Details
Not available yet.

[link to www.sidc.be]


__________________________________________

So, this is what all that means, and I even put a pretty picture in the explanation so it is a little easier to visualize how a CME can erupt on the back-side of the sun, and still effect Earth. IMO, that is absolutely amazing!

They are talking about the Parker Spiral.

The spiral shape is similar to the pattern produced by a spinning lawn sprinkler, for similar reasons: the solar wind travels outward from the Sun at a uniform rate, but an individual jet of solar wind from a particular feature on the Sun's surface rotates with the solar rotation, making a spiral pattern in space. Unlike the jet from a sprinkler, the solar wind is tied to the magnetic field by MHD effects, so that magnetic field lines are tied to the material in the jet and take on an arithmetic spiral shape.

Here's a picture of it...

:parkerspiral:

See how the magnetic field lines actually look like a 'spinning wave' being emitted from the sun. Well, to be technical, the shape is this: Unlike the familiar shape of the field from a bar magnet, the Sun's extended field is twisted into an arithmetic spiral by the magnetohydrodynamic influence of the solar wind.

So, the CME exploded on the other side of the sun, and it gets caught up in the magnetic wave of the Parker Spiral, pulling the CME around the curve of the sun. You can imagine it with the picture above...the CME following the Parker Spiral around. Well, as it is doing it, it comes in contact with Earth's magnetic field, and pulls it in Earth's direction...

Pretty fucking cool!
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Scary
Allso chemtrails angmass today hmm..
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Even though it's a representation, you can see in the image the small planets, and how the spiral can pull the cme around.
:parkerspiral:
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Lots of "rare events" taking place lately.Funny how the spiral keeps popping up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907170


...and electricity, magnetics and PLASMA
 Quoting: SickScent


There is a crop circle on this fellas....... 100% sure...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1139990


hmm
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[link to www.charlesfrith.com]


Closest I can find to it..> There is another one... That just seemed obvious...
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...and electricity, magnetics and PLASMA
 Quoting: SickScent


There is a crop circle on this fellas....... 100% sure...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1139990


hmm
 Quoting: SickScent


[link to www.charlesfrith.com]


Closest I can find to it..> There is another one... That just seemed obvious...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1139990




Don`t click on that link...It pulled the page up about 40 times on my screen...might be my PC, but not sure
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With the insane amount of complexity and inherent order and purposeful design in the universe it is difficult to understand the existence of atheism and how any intelligent person can reject the existence of a God.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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With the insane amount of complexity and inherent order and purposeful design in the universe it is difficult to understand the existence of atheism and how any intelligent person can reject the existence of a God.
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With the insane amount of complexity and inherent order and purposeful design in the universe it is difficult to understand the existence of atheism and how any intelligent person can reject the existence of a God.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


That's why I love science ! The more we learn and advance it becomes evident that nothing is random but designed.
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With the insane amount of complexity and inherent order and purposeful design in the universe it is difficult to understand the existence of atheism and how any intelligent person can reject the existence of a God.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


That's why I love science ! The more we learn and advance it becomes evident that nothing is random but designed.
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Science and Spirituality will begin merging once we get the science accurate. And we are now, finally, moving in the right direction for that to happen.
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With the insane amount of complexity and inherent order and purposeful design in the universe it is difficult to understand the existence of atheism and how any intelligent person can reject the existence of a God.
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No doubt...and a person can even look at it on a small scale too..I can watch tiny insects all day and just travel to another world thinking about them..it`s so freak`n perfect it`s almost spooky..in a good way
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There is a crop circle on this fellas....... 100% sure...
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hmm
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[link to www.charlesfrith.com]


Closest I can find to it..> There is another one... That just seemed obvious...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1139990




Don`t click on that link...It pulled the page up about 40 times on my screen...might be my PC, but not sure
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Don't click it more than once...
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With the insane amount of complexity and inherent order and purposeful design in the universe it is difficult to understand the existence of atheism and how any intelligent person can reject the existence of a God.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


No doubt...and a person can even look at it on a small scale too..I can watch tiny insects all day and just travel to another world thinking about them..it`s so freak`n perfect it`s almost spooky..in a good way
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