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THE BIGGEST SECRET OF FREEMASONRY IS.....there are no secrets....(hollywood and the illuminati and could you please just STFU)

 
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But Freemasonry has and will always be a positive force in the World.



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 Quoting: Mr. X 1305692


Freemasonry has and will always be a just an opposing force to the one sitting in Vatican.


That's it. Just players. Not "positive" or "negative".
Opposing.


I don't care for your little power struggles.
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You are either misinformed or intentionally spreading the lies just like OP does.

"...if you trace up Masonry, through all its Orders, till you come to the grand tip-top, head Mason of the World, you will discover that the dread individual and the Chief of the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Black Pope, the Superior General of the Jesuits] are one and the same person."

– James Parton (American historian)

"Wherever the Jesuits go, revolution quickly follows" -(Behold A Pale Horse, Chpt.2,pg.92,William Cooper)

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Those that claim they're "illuminated" are really only charlatans with enough "knowledge" to trick their ego.

 Quoting: Aleilius



perfectly stated
 Quoting: ILLUMINED


Those who claim to be "illuminated" have yet to learn the lessons about pride and hubris.

Lucifer/Prometheus stories.

Pride goes before what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099



What stories about lucifer and prometheus exactly should be read?

Also, how would anyone transcend the physical realm entirely? To my knowledge every one does this when they sleep or use their imagination reading. It's not some acquired skill.
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How Prometheus was trying to do good by giving mankind knowledge, but messed up with the natural order, resulting in his punishment.

How Lucifer thought he could be above the natural order because he was so smart, but got his ass kicked out of heaven for this.


We shouldn't oppose the natural order of things because we think we know better. We should accomodate it.
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Before "proving" the existence or not of God, don't you think the first step should be to agree upon a definition? Lol

Otherwise, good luck in trying to prove/disprove something you can't even describe :p
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To further point out how ridiculous you are, imagine that you are a computer programmer, you design a program and run it in the computer. Imagine then that the program tries to define and prove YOU, the programmer. It can't, and therefore it comes to the conclusion that there is no programmer, it has always existed and it is evolving.

Perhaps not a perfect analogy but you catch the meaning....
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But Freemasonry has and will always be a positive force in the World.



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 Quoting: Mr. X 1305692


Freemasonry has and will always be a just an opposing force to the one sitting in Vatican.


That's it. Just players. Not "positive" or "negative".
Opposing.


I don't care for your little power struggles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


You are either misinformed or intentionally spreading the lies just like OP does.

"...if you trace up Masonry, through all its Orders, till you come to the grand tip-top, head Mason of the World, you will discover that the dread individual and the Chief of the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Black Pope, the Superior General of the Jesuits] are one and the same person."

– James Parton (American historian)

"Wherever the Jesuits go, revolution quickly follows" -(Behold A Pale Horse, Chpt.2,pg.92,William Cooper)

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That's exactly what I said. Nothing but politics.

I don't see exactly why it should be described as a "positive force" for the world.
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Freemasonry has and will always be a just an opposing force to the one sitting in Vatican.
That's it. Just players. Not "positive" or "negative".
Opposing.
I don't care for your little power struggles.
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Isn't that the bullshit promoted by that Dan Brown book?
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Before "proving" the existence or not of God, don't you think the first step should be to agree upon a definition? Lol

Otherwise, good luck in trying to prove/disprove something you can't even describe :p
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To further point out how ridiculous you are, imagine that you are a computer programmer, you design a program and run it in the computer. Imagine then that the program tries to define and prove YOU, the programmer. It can't, and therefore it comes to the conclusion that there is no programmer, it has always existed and it is evolving.

Perhaps not a perfect analogy but you catch the meaning....
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Listen, we both believe in something grand, something good, something way beyond us, and both call it God.

Can't we just leave it like that ;) So we can reach understanding and not more separation?
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How Prometheus was trying to do good by giving mankind knowledge, but messed up with the natural order, resulting in his punishment.

How Lucifer thought he could be above the natural order because he was so smart, but got his ass kicked out of heaven for this.


We shouldn't oppose the natural order of things because we think we know better. We should accomodate it.
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The only entity which is historically said to have been kicked out of heaven is a woman. The story is not historically correct but does match the misogyny of the Church. Both the Freemasons and Vatican are mostly a male club so where do you put Lucifer in all this?
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Freemasonry has and will always be a just an opposing force to the one sitting in Vatican.
That's it. Just players. Not "positive" or "negative".
Opposing.
I don't care for your little power struggles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


Isn't that the bullshit promoted by that Dan Brown book?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 687593


Never read his shit, but that's the historic reality in my country, which has a long story of freemasonry.

Hell, we even have two types of universities in this country, those founded by masons, and those founded by the catholic church, each teaching what they believe.

Lately, masons and the church increased their dialog in Belgium, because they are just tired of disagreeing all the time and want to try something constructive for a change.
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Listen, we both believe in something grand, something good, something way beyond us, and both call it God.

Can't we just leave it like that ;) So we can reach understanding and not more separation?
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this is the best post so far.
“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.”
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How Prometheus was trying to do good by giving mankind knowledge, but messed up with the natural order, resulting in his punishment.

How Lucifer thought he could be above the natural order because he was so smart, but got his ass kicked out of heaven for this.


We shouldn't oppose the natural order of things because we think we know better. We should accomodate it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


The only entity which is historically said to have been kicked out of heaven is a woman. The story is not historically correct but does match the misogyny of the Church. Both the Freemasons and Vatican are mostly a male club so where do you put Lucifer in all this?
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Angels have no sex. I'm talking about this guy:

[link to www.my-bloglife.com]

The one in the book of Enoch. And also the king of Babylon mocked in the Bible for his pride.
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perfectly stated
 Quoting: ILLUMINED


Those who claim to be "illuminated" have yet to learn the lessons about pride and hubris.

Lucifer/Prometheus stories.

Pride goes before what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099



What stories about lucifer and prometheus exactly should be read?

Also, how would anyone transcend the physical realm entirely? To my knowledge every one does this when they sleep or use their imagination reading. It's not some acquired skill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1156156


How Prometheus was trying to do good by giving mankind knowledge, but messed up with the natural order, resulting in his punishment.

How Lucifer thought he could be above the natural order because he was so smart, but got his ass kicked out of heaven for this.


We shouldn't oppose the natural order of things because we think we know better. We should accomodate it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


Gotcha. So, in your opinion, is it blasphemous to acquire certain knowledge? What you are saying kind of goes along with the bible. Follow these rules or you will be spited.

This is all reminiscent of the Book of Enoch which was excluded from the bible by the Council of Nicea. (sp?) It tells of fallen angels coming down and sharing knowledge with mankind, resulting in their damnation.
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Gotcha. So, in your opinion, is it blasphemous to acquire certain knowledge? What you are saying kind of goes along with the bible. Follow these rules or you will be spited.

This is all reminiscent of the Book of Enoch which was excluded from the bible by the Council of Nicea. (sp?) It tells of fallen angels coming down and sharing knowledge with mankind, resulting in their damnation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1156156


Nope, I'm saying knowledge is just a tool.

And worshipping knowledge is like worshipping a tool. How does that guarantee it's good use? It doesn't.

Science, knowledge, it's a gift AND a curse.

Just look what is happening right now in Japan if you don't believe me.
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How Prometheus was trying to do good by giving mankind knowledge, but messed up with the natural order, resulting in his punishment.

How Lucifer thought he could be above the natural order because he was so smart, but got his ass kicked out of heaven for this.


We shouldn't oppose the natural order of things because we think we know better. We should accomodate it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


The only entity which is historically said to have been kicked out of heaven is a woman. The story is not historically correct but does match the misogyny of the Church. Both the Freemasons and Vatican are mostly a male club so where do you put Lucifer in all this?
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Angels have no sex. I'm talking about this guy:

[link to www.my-bloglife.com]

The one in the book of Enoch. And also the king of Babylon mocked in the Bible for his pride.
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lol what a coincidence I just said something about the book of Enoch...
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Re: THE BIGGEST SECRET OF FREEMASONRY IS.....there are no secrets....(hollywood and the illuminati and could you please just STFU)
1) The biggest secret of the Masonry is that there are no secrets at all. Everything that is taught and learned is INHERENT HUMAN KNOWLEDGE. How do i know this? simple: because i do. think im bigoted? too bad. the only way to understand this though is to do deep, self-analysis. the answers will come when you really want them to.

2) what do The illuminati, freemasons, lady ga-ga all have in common? They all worship Satan...NOT!! In fact, if anyone does, they may have a form of schizophrenia. Satan or Lucifer (again, Latin) means light-bearer and is only meant to be taken figuratively. Im not going to sit here and tell you about the true meaning of LUCIFER, you can do that on your own time but i will tell you that there is NO devil, and whatever it is the illumined worship, it certainly isnt evil. again, look it up.

3)God is everything, time, space, matter. We are all pieces of "God". We are truly the universe BECOMING CONSCIOUS of itself. When we think God, we think of a man, or a being, or some THING outside of ourselves. Nothing is outside of us, really, we just take on that perception due to SEPARATION which brings me to number

4) the very basis for our existence is SEPARATION. The big bang resulted in the SEPARATION of matter which gave form to stars and planets, animals and plants. How did this separation begin? well....

5)Adam and Eve. okay okay, atheists, calm down. read the story in the bible and try to figure this one out for yourself, it is too much for words.

Let's move on to something a little more personal; something i know will immediately begin to fight me when i mention it's name:

6)The Ego. Don't you just want to punch the guy who has one? Well, punch yourself because your ego just made that judgment. In fact, your ego is probably creating every experience for you right now. what's worse is that its probably making it UNCOMFORTABLE for you. Do you feel it? The resistance? are you in denial of having an ego? Can you honestly deny the fact that you live almost entirely based on past experiences and FEAR? That is your EGO! if you cant answer honestly to that question then you will never truly live. The secret to life, which can be found in ALL religions and is taught by way of Buddhism, is to (this will sound cheezy) let go and let love. Let go of your thoughts. they are useless. even the voice you use to calm yourself in stressful situations is your ENEMY. Requesting calm in a stressful situation is the same thing as saying that you dont have it already. So how do you get it?. Calm is only a feeling, something within you, not an object you have to reach out and get. Because it's already in you, you dont need to ask for it. you just need to find it and let it manifest. wishing wanting and hoping are all forms of one thing: LACK. Everything you need to be happy and at peace is within you already, don't let your ego dictate your experiences. "if it's so wonderful then why isnt it so wide-spread and used more commonly" simple!...the shedding of the ego is a process, one in which i think people spend their entire existence trying to complete. and believe you me, it is painful.

and finally, because it humors me:

6)Jay-z isnt illuminati, and if he is then he is doing a bad job at it. From what i understand, Illuminati is supposed to be a secret society. MORE AND MORE people are becoming conscious every DAY thanks to people like JAY Z. hate his music? okay, but the guy has it figured out. he knows how the universe works, he knows how it is meant to work, and he knows how to make it work for him. Do you have what it takes to do the same?

people who think the way we do have been criticized and ostracized for hundreds of years but really im just a regular guy who has questions about his existence. hopefully i can answer yours
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There are plenty of secrets, so either A. you are a low level peon and they don't trust you with secrets, or B. you have been told secrets and are lying now. You are in rebelion to the true God. Man is not waking to a global consciousness. Mankind is degrading, and will do so until the Messiah, Yahsuah, returns for the last time. He will judge the earth. All those who do not know Him will be cast into utter darkness.
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Angels have no sex. I'm talking about this guy:

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The one in the book of Enoch. And also the king of Babylon mocked in the Bible for his pride.
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This is NOT Lucifer, this is the Boss of the Rotschild and the mate of Ishtar if I remember well.

This guy is actually not in the spotlight where it should be, how convenient to blame a fallen angel and depict him/her as a dragon.

The king of Babylon was a nobody, just a human. He was however married to the fallen Lucifer (who was actually a woman) and this text about the beautiful fallen Angel should have been for her, pitying her fallen state where again it had been pushed on the male side. In ancient times, Sirius was said to rise together with the sun (morning star).
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lol what a coincidence I just said something about the book of Enoch...
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It's not a coincidence, it's the topic of the conversation :)

Knowledge and how humans deal with it.
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Angels have no sex. I'm talking about this guy:

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The one in the book of Enoch. And also the king of Babylon mocked in the Bible for his pride.
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This is NOT Lucifer, this is the Boss of the Rotschild and the mate of Ishtar if I remember well.

This guy is actually not in the spotlight where it should be, how convenient to blame a fallen angel and depict him/her as a dragon.

The king of Babylon was a nobody, just a human. He was however married to the fallen Lucifer (who was actually a woman) and this text about the beautiful fallen Angel should have been for her, pitying her fallen state where again it had been pushed on the male side. In ancient times, Sirius was said to rise together with the sun (morning star).
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Listen Nut (is that you?) I like you, but you are WAAAY beyond me in your interpretation of hidden history. So I just can't keep on with you because I'm lost here :p
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Gotcha. So, in your opinion, is it blasphemous to acquire certain knowledge? What you are saying kind of goes along with the bible. Follow these rules or you will be spited.

This is all reminiscent of the Book of Enoch which was excluded from the bible by the Council of Nicea. (sp?) It tells of fallen angels coming down and sharing knowledge with mankind, resulting in their damnation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1156156


Nope, I'm saying knowledge is just a tool.

And worshipping knowledge is like worshipping a tool. How does that guarantee it's good use? It doesn't.

Science, knowledge, it's a gift AND a curse.

Just look what is happening right now in Japan if you don't believe me.
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Absolutely. I sometimes wish I was born back around the year 1 BC. We lived in luxury in nature. Horses perfectly built for us to ride. Abundant food and limited predators of the human race. Limited materialism and familial social structures still intact. Sounds like heaven to me!
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Listen Nut (is that you?) I like you, but you are WAAAY beyond me in your interpretation of hidden history. So I just can't keep on with you because I'm lost here :p
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You have to understand that Nimrod was a NOBODY and has never been a celestial. Until you understand this there is no chance you will understand who was meant with Kings of Kings and Lords of Lords.

History is mainly forged for you to look away from God. If you not understand so far you cannot understand how far the deception runs and why even the elects will be deceived if possible.
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Angels have no sex. I'm talking about this guy:

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The one in the book of Enoch. And also the king of Babylon mocked in the Bible for his pride.
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This is NOT Lucifer, this is the Boss of the Rotschild and the mate of Ishtar if I remember well.

This guy is actually not in the spotlight where it should be, how convenient to blame a fallen angel and depict him/her as a dragon.

The king of Babylon was a nobody, just a human. He was however married to the fallen Lucifer (who was actually a woman) and this text about the beautiful fallen Angel should have been for her, pitying her fallen state where again it had been pushed on the male side. In ancient times, Sirius was said to rise together with the sun (morning star).
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Dude, what?

Question for anybody who knows though. Were the fallen angels male, female or sexless? I thought in the book of Enoch the angles mate with the women and create the Nephilim? So that makes at least some of them male correct?
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the secrets are inherent knowledge, i completely agree.

i would like clarification on number 2, ummm lady gaga is worshipping....what? i don't like her, i think she thinks she's worshipping someone...not sure whats going on there, i'd love to know whats going on with all that though. i mean, i don't think she is worshipping 'lucifer' in the sense of 'light-bearer' i dunno, though.

i wanted to disagree with you because i'm slightly buzzed on some wine and....a little agitated and just generally pissed at life right now....


but i agree, i agree, i agree....

i don't want to punch anyone's ego but my own though, and i don't know what to do about it.
stupid ego...wish it would just let me alone!

and i wish i could be 20 again. *drunk sobs*




*sniff sniff*

could you......


please.......explain adam and eve. i've been stuck on that understanding (or lack thereof) for the longest frickin time, at least 6 months to a year!)
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Question for anybody who knows though. Were the fallen angels male, female or sexless? I thought in the book of Enoch the angles mate with the women and create the Nephilim? So that makes at least some of them male correct?
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This is not of concern since they were not human. When forced to incarnate they have to choose a gender. You can related the fall of Lucifer to the fall of Sophia. Sophia was an angel that had been kicked out of heaven. Lucifer is Sophia. Jesus was the twin soul of Sophia and gave you an hint to look when he said he was the morning star too, this does not however mean that Jesus was Lucifer. Lucifer had been historically incarnated as Mary Magdalene, where you cannot rely on this now because this role had been again stolen by Ishtar wanting to be the queen of all.
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There are plenty of secrets, so either A. you are a low level peon and they don't trust you with secrets, or B. you have been told secrets and are lying now. You are in rebelion to the true God. Man is not waking to a global consciousness. Mankind is degrading, and will do so until the Messiah, Yahsuah, returns for the last time. He will judge the earth. All those who do not know Him will be cast into utter darkness.
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As i stated in the original thread, I am just a regular person. i am just sharing what i think i know and what i have learned in my life. millions of people have reached this level of awakening and millions more have surpassed it, looking back at us who still struggle for understanding in silent pity. To be honest, I dont care about the secrets, it's not important and certainly not helpful to worry about. If some guy is gonna come down and take us all to hell or whatever in the near future, okay.
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Absolutely. I sometimes wish I was born back around the year 1 BC. We lived in luxury in nature. Horses perfectly built for us to ride. Abundant food and limited predators of the human race. Limited materialism and familial social structures still intact. Sounds like heaven to me!
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We are playing the same story since the beginning. Just at different scales and paces so it doesn't get too boring ;p



(Ecclesiastes 1:9-14 NIV) What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. {10} Is there anything of which one can say, "Look! This is something new"? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time. {11} There is no remembrance of men of old, and even those who are yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow. {12} I, the Teacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. {13} I devoted myself to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under heaven. What a heavy burden God has laid on men! {14} I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
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Re: THE BIGGEST SECRET OF FREEMASONRY IS.....there are no secrets....(hollywood and the illuminati and could you please just STFU)
When I think of God I think of the Creator of the universe and life.
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As something "external" to this world?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


Yes. God is outside of our physical reality, and time. That's why you can't "prove" God with our science. You can't observe God directly but you can observe God's creation. That should really be proof enough for any thinking person.
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pfff, the idea of god being reality is 'new age nonsense' but an invisible man in the sky is what exactly?
God IS reality, there is no more to it than that, everything you can see, everything you can imagine, everything you can hear IS god, there is nothing else! you can't prove god with science because that's like asking to prove maths exists using maths, or paint me a picture that proves art exists... it's right in front of your fucking face
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03/24/2011 06:59 AM
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To be honest, I dont care about the secrets, it's not important and certainly not helpful to worry about.
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Secrets sucks. IMHO. It should be a HUGE warning sign something stinky is there. I don't remember of many secrets which turned out to be pleasant.



Secret: Hidden; concealed. Something studiously concealed; a thing kept from general knowledge; what is not revealed, or not to be revealed.

Conceal: To hide or withdraw from observation; to cover; to cover or keep from sight; to prevent the discovery of; to withhold knowledge of.

Shame: A painful sensation excited by a consciousness of guilt or impropriety, or of having done something which injures reputation, or of the exposure of that which nature or modesty prompts us to conceal.
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03/24/2011 07:01 AM
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Re: THE BIGGEST SECRET OF FREEMASONRY IS.....there are no secrets....(hollywood and the illuminati and could you please just STFU)
When I think of God I think of the Creator of the universe and life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 687593


As something "external" to this world?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


Yes. God is outside of our physical reality, and time. That's why you can't "prove" God with our science. You can't observe God directly but you can observe God's creation. That should really be proof enough for any thinking person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 687593


pfff, the idea of god being reality is 'new age nonsense' but an invisible man in the sky is what exactly?
God IS reality, there is no more to it than that, everything you can see, everything you can imagine, everything you can hear IS god, there is nothing else! you can't prove god with science because that's like asking to prove maths exists using maths, or paint me a picture that proves art exists... it's right in front of your fucking face
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Don't forget to exclude that you are also god :) You are a piece of that everything!
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03/24/2011 07:03 AM
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Re: THE BIGGEST SECRET OF FREEMASONRY IS.....there are no secrets....(hollywood and the illuminati and could you please just STFU)
Absolutely. I sometimes wish I was born back around the year 1 BC. We lived in luxury in nature. Horses perfectly built for us to ride. Abundant food and limited predators of the human race. Limited materialism and familial social structures still intact. Sounds like heaven to me!
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We are playing the same story since the beginning. Just at different scales and paces so it doesn't get too boring ;p



(Ecclesiastes 1:9-14 NIV) What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. {10} Is there anything of which one can say, "Look! This is something new"? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time. {11} There is no remembrance of men of old, and even those who are yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow. {12} I, the Teacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. {13} I devoted myself to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under heaven. What a heavy burden God has laid on men! {14} I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
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It all is a game in the end I guess.

I'm going to bed, good night my Belgian friend. Check back on this thread! I have it bookmarked for tomorrow :)
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03/24/2011 07:04 AM
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Re: THE BIGGEST SECRET OF FREEMASONRY IS.....there are no secrets....(hollywood and the illuminati and could you please just STFU)
Don't forget to exclude that you are also god :) You are a piece of that everything!
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Careful with that one. It's a bit tricky.

Is an atom or a brain cell in you going to say "I'm 1156156"?

If it did, you would look at it and say "ROFL little tiny atom. It's true you are a part of me, but don't speak in my name please ;)".
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03/24/2011 07:06 AM
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It all is a game in the end I guess.

I'm going to bed, good night my Belgian friend. Check back on this thread! I have it bookmarked for tomorrow :)
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If we can't go back or climb to heaven, let's make it a reality here and now ;)

Good night friend!

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