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ALERT!!! FUKUSHIMA FAKE PHOTOS!! THEY ARE HIDING MUCH MORE THAN RADIATION LEVELS

 
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anybody think the cars are the cars of the workers???
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I don't see why they couldn't be workers' cars, or why there couldn't be cars there post-tsunami. Maybe OP is trying to say that there should be cars piled up and tossed about in the parking lot, from the tsunami/quake and that they would not have been removed by now? So the business-as-usual parking lot is simply out of place?

If that's not what she is saying, then I don't see why cars can't be there now. Am I looking at the right thing? It's the upper right hand corner with the neat lines, and pre-tsunami they looked like perfect little rectangular white things (cars, I guess?) in between lines in some places.
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Yes that is what im saying... there should be cars piled up and tossed about, at the very least all pushed up against the back fence.. everywhere else the cars were moved, tossed like match sticks yet here.. nothing??

Again, im not saying the tsunami doesnt exist.. Im saying that at these plants we are looking at in these photos.. no 45ft tsunami washed over them.. they would be totalled.. gone.. and maybe that is the direction we should be looking at.. the post above that mentions the red and white painted towers.. hasnt been seen in any of the footage.. yet its supposed to be the Fuku 1 plant..

Maybe we are only scratching the surface..
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anybody think the cars are the cars of the workers???
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I don't see why they couldn't be workers' cars, or why there couldn't be cars there post-tsunami. Maybe OP is trying to say that there should be cars piled up and tossed about in the parking lot, from the tsunami/quake and that they would not have been removed by now? So the business-as-usual parking lot is simply out of place?

If that's not what she is saying, then I don't see why cars can't be there now. Am I looking at the right thing? It's the upper right hand corner with the neat lines, and pre-tsunami they looked like perfect little rectangular white things (cars, I guess?) in between lines in some places.
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Yes that is what im saying... there should be cars piled up and tossed about, at the very least all pushed up against the back fence.. everywhere else the cars were moved, tossed like match sticks yet here.. nothing??

Again, im not saying the tsunami doesnt exist.. Im saying that at these plants we are looking at in these photos.. no 45ft tsunami washed over them.. they would be totalled.. gone.. and maybe that is the direction we should be looking at.. the post above that mentions the red and white painted towers.. hasnt been seen in any of the footage.. yet its supposed to be the Fuku 1 plant..

Maybe we are only scratching the surface..
 Quoting: EW 1314365

The cars would have been washed away, the same as they were washed away in other areas.

Tsunamis are not tidal waves, they are a continuous stream of water, sometimes moving faster than a plane, they will wash every moveable object away. Some buildings and other constructions however, if they are built in the correct manner will be left as you can see from some other photos that were taken in other areas.

Regarding a nuclear plant, they would have been constructed to the highest standard, hence why they are still standing.
Lotus

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Tidal wave is Sea Water NOT A FREAKING OIL SPILL...why the photos all look like an oil slick hit them...they should still be same color as before...only with less stuff standing.

I VOTE DOCTORED.
 Quoting: p00p 1313078


What the hell you on about?? The water would have had every conceivable piece of debris and crap in it as it washed over everything, of course it wouldn't have been "clean" seawater, it would have been black, brown and mud, with the colour of tar.

We are not talking about seawater washing ashore here, but nature at its most brutal!
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this is one of the photos that came up under a search of Sendai Nuclear plant.. [link to newsnarticle.com]

It is also NOT fukushima.. so here we have a nuclear plant exploded, burning black smoke in Sendai and we havent heard one word about it..
 Quoting: EW 1308017


Why do you think that is in Sendai? The word "Sendai" does not appear at all on that page. The story says "Fukushima".

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314186


For everyone who keeps asking why she thinks the photo is of Sendai, it's in the name of the photo which you can see when you try to save it.
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Thankyou for explaining that but i guess its too hard to expect people to follow every message i post.. So I should explain this shouldnt I..

When I first starting searching to find out all the various plants in japan and which ones were where.. and which ones were damaged, I googled How many nuclear plants in japan.. I got the wiki pages that i've already linked to so i went through each one and found out where they were..

the Onagawa Nuclear plant is located on the Oshika Peninsular, approx 92 km's east from Sendai Airport. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to assets.nydailynews.com]
[link to farm6.static.flickr.com]
Article regarding the damage at Onagawa, Near Sendai..
[link to www.str8tzmag.com]

Now when i started googling for photos, since I now knew that Sendai had the Onagawa plant near it, I googled Sendai power plant.. nuclear power plant in sendai, sendai tsunami.. etc.. that pic on my first message, the first one, was one that came up with the Sendai pictures but it had fukushima on the page.. however I had by this time seen dozens of photos of sendai and had seen it on fire from the aerial shots so when the article was saying it was fukushima and the picture was saying it was sendai I got suspisious..

then last night I realised that the plant on fire was not the nuclear one, but some kind of fuel or other chemical plant in Sendai.. but have since been unable to get a name for it..

So that is how I ended up with that first pic of the fuel plant in sendai posted as the sendai nuke plant.. it wasnt until i really started getting into it i realised people were posting photos of plants with the wrong names on them.


Hope that clears up confusion regarding that sendai pic in my first page message..
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Ok this is the kind of mix up and confusion that we have been talking about.. this pic illustrates it perfectly..

The picture is of Fukushima ONE.. 6 reactors.. but the article is talking about the damage at fukushima TWO .. 4 reactors..

[link to nuclear-powerplants.blogspot.com]

This has been a big problem in determining which is which when we are talking about them....


Kbambi, I think Im onto something... I think Ive worked out the issue with the red towers.. they are from Fukushima ONE.. 6 reactors.. the one with the MOX fuel.. the plutonium reactor #3...

There are two possibilities..

1. They painted them.. the flight path changed and it is the simple answer

2. My personal choice. There was a series of explosions at Fuku ONE leading up to the big quake, which caused the smaller quakes the few days before and caused the spikes in radiation.. this set off a chain reaction in the quake prone area. then the big one hit and then the tsunami and it wiped out the plant, then they started showing fake pictures of different plants to confuse everyone.. the real ones were slowly being filtered out, the subsequent explosions at the plant were obviously all part of the downward succession from the original..

We are begining to see, I believe, the real state of Fuku ONE in a gradual release of photos. Notice how each time a new photo comes out its worse?...

Just a theory.. but i bet its close..
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Thread: NEW INFORMATION ON FUKUSHIMA NUCLEAR POWER PLANT
Thought this post was significant to our own discussion..

Also as for the pic where its said there is no hills there.. your right.. however, there are embankments around the plant, part of the landscaping etc, we have established they are in the vicinity of 20 - 30 meters in hight.. wave was supposedly 14 meters.. however as said I doubt it would stop a wave of this significance.. serious doubts..
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Thanks AC 979825 - another great contribution here. I have followed this entire thread, and can can conclude without any personal or reasonable doubt, that we have NOT been shown ANY pics or vids, of any of the Fuku plants after a 45 st tsunami wave. So, there IS a cover up/psyops of some sort going on, and this time with a MUCH bigger built in fear factor than 9/11 (i.e. doomsday radiation is bigger boogy-man than Al-CIA-da cave dwellers).

OP, I think the "elevation above sea level" distractors will soon get worn down here, as they have no logical or rational leg to stand on. I hope, soon, this thread will delve into the BIG question, now that we KNOW there IS a cover up: WHAT exactly is being covered up, and why? At least 3 or 4 plausible theories in this thread......like the pre-tsunami EPA recorded radiation spikes as evidence that the explosions may have happened pre-tsunami...
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Thread: NEW INFORMATION ON FUKUSHIMA NUCLEAR POWER PLANT
Thought this post was significant to our own discussion..

Also as for the pic where its said there is no hills there.. your right.. however, there are embankments around the plant, part of the landscaping etc, we have established they are in the vicinity of 20 - 30 meters in hight.. wave was supposedly 14 meters.. however as said I doubt it would stop a wave of this significance.. serious doubts..
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OP, I agree the embankment and parking lot elevations are a red herring when addressing a 45 ft tsunami.
Regardless, I asked many pages back where folks got their figures for elevation. Many use Google earth, with IS NOT ACCURATE. On Google earth, just move the cursor around over the ocean, and see elevations ranging from +20 ft to -100 ft (like off Sendai), and the ground beside, between, and at the base of the reactor buildings shows elevations HIGHER than the building tops! Is there a better elevation/topographical program out there? Maybe someone posted in this thread, but I missed it.
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 979825


Thanks AC 979825 - another great contribution here. I have followed this entire thread, and can can conclude without any personal or reasonable doubt, that we have NOT been shown ANY pics or vids, of any of the Fuku plants after a 45 st tsunami wave. So, there IS a cover up/psyops of some sort going on, and this time with a MUCH bigger built in fear factor than 9/11 (i.e. doomsday radiation is bigger boogy-man than Al-CIA-da cave dwellers).

OP, I think the "elevation above sea level" distractors will soon get worn down here, as they have no logical or rational leg to stand on. I hope, soon, this thread will delve into the BIG question, now that we KNOW there IS a cover up: WHAT exactly is being covered up, and why? At least 3 or 4 plausible theories in this thread......like the pre-tsunami EPA recorded radiation spikes as evidence that the explosions may have happened pre-tsunami...
 Quoting: Mick 1212411


Hi Mick, I have to say thankyou for your original post in the other thread was one of the ones that sent me looking as i mentioned in my first post..

I am certainly begining to lean toward the explosions occuring before the big EQ & tsunami.. the spikes in radiation, the obvious misleading information, the slowly drip fed information that each day it gets a little worse.. its all BS..
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Can someone sum this thread up in 5 or so bullet points and is any of this false flag theory supported by independent radiation readings out of Japan?
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1. Something stinks..

2. Photos do not show damage from at 45ft tsunami.. sure some water definately got on the foreshore of the plants but it was not a 45ft wave..

3. Possible that there was an accident/explosion at the Fuku 1 plant which caused the EQ and tsunami.

4. They are doctoring photos to cover up that the tsunami didnt destroy the reactors at Fuku1 or 2 because of the massive class action suit that would ensue if it came out the accident/deliberate explosion was caused by them

5. I can get annoyed and frustrated sometimes but meh im human.. i appologise in advance for my snipyness..
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I don't think we've been looking at photos of Fukushima Dai-ichi. In the Wiki photo, there are 3 fully visible towers and one that's set off and behind another...making four towers. BUT...what no one has mentioned is that in the Wiki photos, the towers for Fukushima Dai-ichi are painted with an INTERNATIONAL WARNING color of reddish orange and white. This nuclear plant is in or near a flight path into an airport of some sort, and the towers are painted because they are generally of a higher elevation than the surrounding land and nobody would want a plane to hit them. So I think it's fair to say that Fukushima Dai-ichi (meaning plant 1) is a flat-lander...if its towers really were reddish orange and white as shown in the photo:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


So far, none of the after-tsunami photos of the exploded reactors show reddish/orange and white towers. Fukushima Daini (2) shows a WHITE tower in Wiki.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

That would suggest that either the plant is not near or in any flight path into an airport, OR it means that there's something BEHIND the plant that is at a higher elevation and would thus be the place for warning strobes, etc. The towers would not need the caution paint job.

Onagawa nuclear power station has WHITE towers.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
It also has a high hill behind it (in the Wiki photo) so the caution paint job wouldn't be needed.


All I can ask is...show me the proper plant with the REDDISH ORANGE AND WHITE TOWERS, and I'll know it's Fukushima 1 (Dai-ichi). Otherwise, I don't buy that F1 is what's been shown in the news. Either it's completely gone, or this is a ruse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1270779


From my photo and video examinations, it clearly shows they have been created using virtual imaging software.
One of the hardest things for them to get right are the towers and the seawall.

They can't put in the orange stripes because it would stand out too much frame by frame that they are moving around, too short in the foreground, and sometimes one or another is missing altogether. The seawall and the water is also awkwardly placed. I've seen some video where the seawall appears to be hanging in the sky above the reactors!!
Or that the reactors are sitting on the beach with no space between the reactor "boxes" and the sea, nevermind there are clearly a long building in there and a few water tanks, etc.

I've seen videos where the tower grid work has bled over into "reactor" 4 to where it also appears to be make entirely of the same see-through gridwork.

These will usually appear to be the blurry, smokey, two-tone images with no sharp edges and life-like colors.
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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This clearly appears to be a photoshopped image.
There is no distict details. Edges are blurred and loose proper color tones.
There is no orange on the towers.

And the water looks like outflow water that has been inverted, blown up and placed here and there at odd angles.
The starting point and the concentric rings are moving in the wrong direction.
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Here is something else i found very interesting.. the time line of the chernobyl and 3 mile island accidents.. both of these happened fairly quickly.. melt down occurs seemingly at a fairly rapid rate, not over days and weeks.. this also leads me to believe that meltdown had already occured or was occuring when the big quake hit..

Three Mile Island
9 hours to hydrogen explosion, 15 hours to final entry here.

Elapsed Time & Event

00:00:00 Pumps feeding water to the secondary loop shut down. This was the first of two independent system failures that led to the near meltdown of the Three Mile Island Nuclear Reactor.

00:00:01 Alarm sounds within the TMI control room.
At the time this alarm is disregarded by the operators.

00:00:02 Water pressure and temperature in the reactor core rise. The failure of the secondary loop pump has stopped the transfer of heat from the Primary Loop to the secondary loop. The rise in temperature and pressure is considered to be part of the normal plant operations, and hence ignored.

00:00:03 Pressure Relief valve (PORV) automatically opens
When the pressure of steam in the reactor core rises above safe limits, the pressure relief valve is designed to automatically open, releasing the excess steam to a containment tank.

00:00:04 Backup pumps for the secondary loop water system automatically turn on. Four seconds into the accident the secondary loop water pumps are automatically turned on. This is indicated to the operators by the presence of lights on the control panel. The operators are not aware that the pumps have been disconnected and are not functioning.

00:00:09 Boron and Silver control rods are lowered into the reactor. PORV light goes out, indicating valve is closed.
Lowering of the control rods into the reactor core slows down the rate of the reaction. The effect of which is also a reduction in the heat produced by the reactor. When the PORV light goes out the operators incorrectly assume that the valve is closed. In reality the valve is not only open but is also releasing steam and water from the core. This is now a LOCA (Loss of Coolant Accident)

00:02:00 Emergency Injection Water (EIW) is automatically activated. The EIW is a safety device that causes water to flow into the reactor core. It is designed to ensure that when there is a LOCA the water in the core remains at a safe level. In the past the EIW system has turned itself on when there has been no leak so the operators are not unduly concerned by this.

00:04:30 Operators observe that the water level in the Primary System is rising while the pressure is decreasing.
When they observe that the water level in the core is rising the operators shut off the EIW system.

00:04:30 Water level in the core still appears to be rising. In actuality the water level in the core is dropping and turning off the EIW increases the amount of steam being produced by the reactor core. The combination of steam and water is still being released through the PORV.

00:08:00 Operator notices that the valves for the secondary loop backup pumps are off.
8 minutes into the accident the closed valve is noticed by an operator. Once he turns the valves back on the Secondary Water loop is functioning correctly.

00:45:00 Water level in primary loop continues to drop.
At this point in the accident the operators still do not suspect a LOCA. The instrument checking the radiation has not registered an alarm, and the gauges in the control room are wrongly indicating that the water level is up.

01:20:00 Primary loop pumps start to shake violently.
Steam produced by the lack of cooling water in the core passes through the primary loop pumps and causes them to shake. Assuming they are not functioning correctly the operators turn off two of the four pumps

01:20:00 Remaining two pumps in the primary loop turn off.
The automatic shut down of the two remaining pumps in the primary loop causes the water within the nuclear core to stop circulating. This in turn causes the heated core to convert more water into steam, further reducing the transfer of heat away from the core.

02:15:00 Water level drops below the top of the core.
Once the top of the core is exposed the steam is converted to super heated steam. This reacts with the control rods and produces hydrogen and other radioactive gases.

02:15:00 Hydrogen gas is released through PORV.
Since the Pilot Operated Relief Valve is still in the open position it allows the hydrogen gas produced to be released along with the steam.

02:20:00 Operator from next shift arrives and closes PORV backup valve.

02:20:30 Operators receive first indication that the radiation levels are up.

02:45:00 Radiation alarm sounds and a site emergency is declared. At this point half the core is uncovered and the radiation level of the water in the primary loop is 350 times its normal level.

03:00:00 Due to higher radiation levels a General Emergency is declared. There is still confusion as to whether the core is uncovered or not. There are some that feel the temperature readings may be erroneous.

07:30:00 Operators pump water into the primary loop and open the PORV backup valve to lower the pressure.

09:00:00 Hydrogen within the containment structure explodes. The explosion is recorded by the instruments in the control room. It is dismissed as just being a spike caused by an electrical malfunction. The sound of the explosion heard is thought by some to be a ventilator damper.

15:00:00 Primary loop pumps are turned on.
By now a large portion of the core has melted and there is still hydrogen present in the primary loop. Water from the primary loop pumps is circulated and the core temperature is finally brought under control.
[link to www.onlineethics.org]

Chernobyl.
25 April (Friday)

13.05 hours (times are local times - Moscow times where similar then) -Preparations for the turbine test begin. For this test, the plant's capacity must be reduced and for this reason one turbine is turned off.

14.00 hours - The controller of the Ukraine electricity network requests that the test be delayed. All electricity from Unit 4 is necessary. It is not clear why it was not predictable beforehand that work would have to continue all through Friday afternoon in order to achieve the production planned for April.

16.00 hours - The day shift leaves. The members of this shift have been given information about the test during the previous days, and know about the entire procedure. A special team of electronic engineers is present.

23.10 hours - Preparations for the test start again. The ten hour delay has a large number of consequences. Firstly, the team of engineers is tired. Secondly, during the test, the evening shift is replaced by the night shift. This shift has fewer experienced operators, besides which they were not prepared for the test. Achier Razachkov, - Yuri Tregub and A. Uskov are the operators who were responsible for carrying out the test earlier in the day: later in interviews they declared that test procedures were only explained to the day and evening shifts. Yuri Tregub decides to stay and help the night shift.

26 April (Saturday)
01.00 hours - During preparations for the test, the operators have difficulty keeping the capacity of the nuclear plant stable. While doing this they make six important mistakes.

1. The control rods which can stop the reactor are raised higher than regulations permit. Operator Uskov of the day shift said later that he would have done the same. He said: "We often don't see the need to follow the instructions to the letter, because rules are often infringed all around us." As well as this, he pointed to the fact that during training it was repeated over and over again that "a nuclear power plant cannot explode". Operator Kazachkov said: "We have often had fewer control rods than were required, and nothing ever happened. No explosion, everything just went on as normal."

2. The plant's capacity decreases to below the safe level. Because of this the core becomes unstable. Preparations for the test should have been stopped by now. It should have been obvious that all attention should be given to measures for regaining the plant's stability.

3. In order to raise the capacity, an extra circulation pump is turned on. Because of the strong cooling down, the pressure falls, thus reducing the reactor's capacity rather than increasing it. Normally at this stage the scram system should start working, but in order to still be able to carry out the test, this system is turned off.

4. The automatic emergency shut-down system is turned off in order to prevent the reactor stopping itself.

5. The systems to prevent the' water level decreasing too much and the temperature of the fuel elements becoming too high are also turned off.

6. Finally, the emergency cooling system is turned off to prevent it working during the test.

1.23.04 hours - The real test now begins. The power plant's capacity suddenly increases unexpectedly.

1.23.40 hours - Leonid Toptunov, responsible for the control rods, presses a special button for an emergency shutdown. The test has been going on for 36 seconds.

1.23.44 hours - The control rods start to descend, but shocks can be felt. The operators see that the control rods have become stuck. The fuel tubes have become deformed because of the large increase in the steam pressure.

1.24.00 hours - The test has now been going on for 56 seconds. Pressure in the reactor is now so high that the fuel elements burst and small particles land in the cooling water. The cooling water turns into steam and pressure in the tubes increases: they burst.

The 1000 tonne lid above the fuel elements is lifted: the first explosion. The release of radiation starts. Air gets into the reactor. There is enough oxygen to start a graphite fire. The metal of the fuel tubes reacts to the water. This is a chemical reaction which produces hydrogen, and this hydrogen explodes: the second explosion. Burning debris flies into the air and lands on the roof of Chernobyl Unit 3. (There was barely any attention paid to this hydrogen explosion in the Soviet report about the accident.

In studies commissioned by the US government, however, it was concluded that the second explosion was of great significance, and that the original explanation of the accident was incorrect. Richard Wilson of the Harvard University in the US said this second explosion was a small nuclear explosion.)

Read more: [link to www.iraq-war.ru]
Dont ask me why its on that link but thats where i found it.

Now from what i can find nuclear accidents happen fast.. there is not days and weeks of waiting and watching.. this once again says to me FOUL PLAY..

More and more I see how it could be possible that there was an explosion at the plant POST-QUAKE..
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 979825


This clearly appears to be a photoshopped image.
There is no distict details. Edges are blurred and loose proper color tones.
There is no orange on the towers.

And the water looks like outflow water that has been inverted, blown up and placed here and there at odd angles.
The starting point and the concentric rings are moving in the wrong direction.
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I actually dont think this photo is too tampered with, I believe this photo was taken POST QUAKE.. I think this shows an explosion of some kind beneath the plant, that is the shock wave being seen in the water.. this is possibly the event that triggered the 9.0 quake and tsunami that followed..
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Tidal wave is Sea Water NOT A FREAKING OIL SPILL...why the photos all look like an oil slick hit them...they should still be same color as before...only with less stuff standing.

I VOTE DOCTORED.
 Quoting: p00p 1313078


What the hell you on about?? The water would have had every conceivable piece of debris and crap in it as it washed over everything, of course it wouldn't have been "clean" seawater, it would have been black, brown and mud, with the colour of tar.

We are not talking about seawater washing ashore here, but nature at its most brutal!
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I vote doctored also.
There is no way that each "after" picture overlay is the same uniform brown no matter where the image is taken.

Also there are artifacts left in and taken out or appear unusually white against their brown backdrop.

I believe there is enough evidence that this event was set up to occur on a particular date considering stock manipulations the day before.
And charts seems to bear that out. Both kind. Financial and earth energy wise.

And the aftermath has been embellished in order to make it believeable that this water damage was enough to take out concrete hardened bunkers that are the reactors.

And since the reactors were planned to go offline at Fukushima I in March 2011, I am sure they have not been damaged by any photoshopped explosions.
That's why no sat images currently available.

The PTB is controlling the media and the government there.
No wonder the TEPCO guy was crying. He is being made a scapegoat for a non-event to bring down his country.
It doesn't matter if it's real or not to the PTB, the end result is still the same. Japan's monetary economy will be ruined by this. People have died from the manmade disaster that hit lowlying areas. At least they are not being radiated on top of it, though.
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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This clearly appears to be a photoshopped image.
There is no distict details. Edges are blurred and loose proper color tones.
There is no orange on the towers.

And the water looks like outflow water that has been inverted, blown up and placed here and there at odd angles.
The starting point and the concentric rings are moving in the wrong direction.
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I actually dont think this photo is too tampered with, I believe this photo was taken POST QUAKE.. I think this shows an explosion of some kind beneath the plant, that is the shock wave being seen in the water.. this is possibly the event that triggered the 9.0 quake and tsunami that followed..
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Well then don't you mean during quake then, not post quake, if you think they fortuitously captured it in progress enough to show the water effects from the "explosion".

Look, Fukushima I was set to be taken offline in March 2011 anyway, as records show. If it were THAT bad off, in danger of an accidental explosion, why would they leave it in operation and have it explode in March of 2011.
Seems a little to hinky a coincidence, to me.
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Can someone sum this thread up in 5 or so bullet points and is any of this false flag theory supported by independent radiation readings out of Japan?
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1. Something stinks..

2. Photos do not show damage from at 45ft tsunami.. sure some water definately got on the foreshore of the plants but it was not a 45ft wave..

3. Possible that there was an accident/explosion at the Fuku 1 plant which caused the EQ and tsunami.

4. They are doctoring photos to cover up that the tsunami didnt destroy the reactors at Fuku1 or 2 because of the massive class action suit that would ensue if it came out the accident/deliberate explosion was caused by them

5. I can get annoyed and frustrated sometimes but meh im human.. i appologise in advance for my snipyness..
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I don't think we've been looking at photos of Fukushima Dai-ichi. In the Wiki photo, there are 3 fully visible towers and one that's set off and behind another...making four towers. BUT...what no one has mentioned is that in the Wiki photos, the towers for Fukushima Dai-ichi are painted with an INTERNATIONAL WARNING color of reddish orange and white. This nuclear plant is in or near a flight path into an airport of some sort, and the towers are painted because they are generally of a higher elevation than the surrounding land and nobody would want a plane to hit them. So I think it's fair to say that Fukushima Dai-ichi (meaning plant 1) is a flat-lander...if its towers really were reddish orange and white as shown in the photo:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


So far, none of the after-tsunami photos of the exploded reactors show reddish/orange and white towers. Fukushima Daini (2) shows a WHITE tower in Wiki.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

That would suggest that either the plant is not near or in any flight path into an airport, OR it means that there's something BEHIND the plant that is at a higher elevation and would thus be the place for warning strobes, etc. The towers would not need the caution paint job.

Onagawa nuclear power station has WHITE towers.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
It also has a high hill behind it (in the Wiki photo) so the caution paint job wouldn't be needed.


All I can ask is...show me the proper plant with the REDDISH ORANGE AND WHITE TOWERS, and I'll know it's Fukushima 1 (Dai-ichi). Otherwise, I don't buy that F1 is what's been shown in the news. Either it's completely gone, or this is a ruse.
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From my photo and video examinations, it clearly shows they have been created using virtual imaging software.
One of the hardest things for them to get right are the towers and the seawall.

They can't put in the orange stripes because it would stand out too much frame by frame that they are moving around, too short in the foreground, and sometimes one or another is missing altogether. The seawall and the water is also awkwardly placed. I've seen some video where the seawall appears to be hanging in the sky above the reactors!!
Or that the reactors are sitting on the beach with no space between the reactor "boxes" and the sea, nevermind there are clearly a long building in there and a few water tanks, etc.

I've seen videos where the tower grid work has bled over into "reactor" 4 to where it also appears to be make entirely of the same see-through gridwork.

These will usually appear to be the blurry, smokey, two-tone images with no sharp edges and life-like colors.
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Great contribution, could you give us some links to these videos and photos pointing out what you see please.. trying to have things to actually look at and compare.. ty..
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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This clearly appears to be a photoshopped image.
There is no distict details. Edges are blurred and loose proper color tones.
There is no orange on the towers.

And the water looks like outflow water that has been inverted, blown up and placed here and there at odd angles.
The starting point and the concentric rings are moving in the wrong direction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


I actually dont think this photo is too tampered with, I believe this photo was taken POST QUAKE.. I think this shows an explosion of some kind beneath the plant, that is the shock wave being seen in the water.. this is possibly the event that triggered the 9.0 quake and tsunami that followed..
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Well then don't you mean during quake then, not post quake, if you think they fortuitously captured it in progress enough to show the water effects from the "explosion".

Look, Fukushima I was set to be taken offline in March 2011 anyway, as records show. If it were THAT bad off, in danger of an accidental explosion, why would they leave it in operation and have it explode in March of 2011.
Seems a little to hinky a coincidence, to me.
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AHHH.. thankyou for catching that .. I MEANT PRE-QUAKE..

Well the twin towers was insurance and oil.. so fuku could be insurance and weapons.. nothing would surprise me at this point..
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1. Something stinks..

2. Photos do not show damage from at 45ft tsunami.. sure some water definately got on the foreshore of the plants but it was not a 45ft wave..

3. Possible that there was an accident/explosion at the Fuku 1 plant which caused the EQ and tsunami.

4. They are doctoring photos to cover up that the tsunami didnt destroy the reactors at Fuku1 or 2 because of the massive class action suit that would ensue if it came out the accident/deliberate explosion was caused by them

5. I can get annoyed and frustrated sometimes but meh im human.. i appologise in advance for my snipyness..
 Quoting: EW 1314365



I don't think we've been looking at photos of Fukushima Dai-ichi. In the Wiki photo, there are 3 fully visible towers and one that's set off and behind another...making four towers. BUT...what no one has mentioned is that in the Wiki photos, the towers for Fukushima Dai-ichi are painted with an INTERNATIONAL WARNING color of reddish orange and white. This nuclear plant is in or near a flight path into an airport of some sort, and the towers are painted because they are generally of a higher elevation than the surrounding land and nobody would want a plane to hit them. So I think it's fair to say that Fukushima Dai-ichi (meaning plant 1) is a flat-lander...if its towers really were reddish orange and white as shown in the photo:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


So far, none of the after-tsunami photos of the exploded reactors show reddish/orange and white towers. Fukushima Daini (2) shows a WHITE tower in Wiki.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

That would suggest that either the plant is not near or in any flight path into an airport, OR it means that there's something BEHIND the plant that is at a higher elevation and would thus be the place for warning strobes, etc. The towers would not need the caution paint job.

Onagawa nuclear power station has WHITE towers.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
It also has a high hill behind it (in the Wiki photo) so the caution paint job wouldn't be needed.


All I can ask is...show me the proper plant with the REDDISH ORANGE AND WHITE TOWERS, and I'll know it's Fukushima 1 (Dai-ichi). Otherwise, I don't buy that F1 is what's been shown in the news. Either it's completely gone, or this is a ruse.
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From my photo and video examinations, it clearly shows they have been created using virtual imaging software.
One of the hardest things for them to get right are the towers and the seawall.

They can't put in the orange stripes because it would stand out too much frame by frame that they are moving around, too short in the foreground, and sometimes one or another is missing altogether. The seawall and the water is also awkwardly placed. I've seen some video where the seawall appears to be hanging in the sky above the reactors!!
Or that the reactors are sitting on the beach with no space between the reactor "boxes" and the sea, nevermind there are clearly a long building in there and a few water tanks, etc.

I've seen videos where the tower grid work has bled over into "reactor" 4 to where it also appears to be make entirely of the same see-through gridwork.

These will usually appear to be the blurry, smokey, two-tone images with no sharp edges and life-like colors.
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Great contribution, could you give us some links to these videos and photos pointing out what you see please.. trying to have things to actually look at and compare.. ty..
 Quoting: EW 1314365


Sorry for the long quotes here. I am leaving for work and then I have to go to a memorial service.
But, I will be back tonight.
Any of the videos that are taken from a distance or zoomed will do.
They all are.

Still frame pics appear to use photoshopping. The videos, virtual software.
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god you idiots deserve to die from this radiation..
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No, we don't deserve to die from the radiation.

Is that gonna be the new insult now?

The carpark looks to be elevated to me, too, in every photo, so I will have to go re-read to see where you say you proved it's not.
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Ok i guess its my own fault that im going to have to pay for that comment for the entirity of this thread.. I would appreciate it though if you actaully read forward a few and saw where I appologised for it.. I was angry and frustrated and it was uncalled for..

I didnt prove it wasnt elevated.. i made a post stating that up until that point I had only used my own eyes to make an estimate of how high it was .. then I went and used an elevation tool and tried to find out the exact elevation..

It still doesnt matter.. a 45ft wave followed by a half a dozen more 20- 30 ft ones, would was up over a 90 ft 45 degree slope with ease..
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I later saw your apology. I should probably wait until the end of my reading to post replies to threads. I can't say I should always wait until the end of the thread, because it gets to be so much to read. Hours and hours of reading every day gets to be a lot. So I quit last night after about page 13 and decided to get to sleep before 4am for a change. :P

I do think it would be good to be patient in general with readers. It's a lot of information to take in, and people will ask questions. Maybe answers to frequently asked questions, tacked onto OP's, would be good practice. ... Without that, I don't know how anyone keeps up with so many threads every single day, to tell you the truth. I'm grateful there are so many of us discussing this to keep the topic alive, in any case.
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this is one of the photos that came up under a search of Sendai Nuclear plant.. [link to newsnarticle.com]

It is also NOT fukushima.. so here we have a nuclear plant exploded, burning black smoke in Sendai and we havent heard one word about it..
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Why do you think that is in Sendai? The word "Sendai" does not appear at all on that page. The story says "Fukushima".

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For everyone who keeps asking why she thinks the photo is of Sendai, it's in the name of the photo which you can see when you try to save it.
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Thankyou for explaining that but i guess its too hard to expect people to follow every message i post.. So I should explain this shouldnt I..

When I first starting searching to find out all the various plants in japan and which ones were where.. and which ones were damaged, I googled How many nuclear plants in japan.. I got the wiki pages that i've already linked to so i went through each one and found out where they were..

the Onagawa Nuclear plant is located on the Oshika Peninsular, approx 92 km's east from Sendai Airport. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to assets.nydailynews.com]
[link to farm6.static.flickr.com]
Article regarding the damage at Onagawa, Near Sendai..
[link to www.str8tzmag.com]

Now when i started googling for photos, since I now knew that Sendai had the Onagawa plant near it, I googled Sendai power plant.. nuclear power plant in sendai, sendai tsunami.. etc.. that pic on my first message, the first one, was one that came up with the Sendai pictures but it had fukushima on the page.. however I had by this time seen dozens of photos of sendai and had seen it on fire from the aerial shots so when the article was saying it was fukushima and the picture was saying it was sendai I got suspisious..

then last night I realised that the plant on fire was not the nuclear one, but some kind of fuel or other chemical plant in Sendai.. but have since been unable to get a name for it..

So that is how I ended up with that first pic of the fuel plant in sendai posted as the sendai nuke plant.. it wasnt until i really started getting into it i realised people were posting photos of plants with the wrong names on them.


Hope that clears up confusion regarding that sendai pic in my first page message..
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No problem. I explained also because I had the same confusion until I clicked on the file to see if the clue was in the name.

That was a good find on your part! Amazing how their sloppiness gives things away.
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Look, Fukushima I was set to be taken offline in March 2011 anyway, as records show. If it were THAT bad off, in danger of an accidental explosion, why would they leave it in operation and have it explode in March of 2011.
Seems a little to hinky a coincidence, to me.
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So is this like burning a building for the insurance money? Does it work like that with nuclear plants?

I found that an odd coincidence, too.
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"Truth will do well enough if left to shift for herself. She seldom has received much aid from the power of great men to whom she is rarely known and seldom welcome. She has no need of force to procure entrance into the minds of men." --Thomas Jefferson

Tick-tock, tick tock, it’s time to wake up and smell the fakery.

In case you missed it (living in a cave?)--on 9/11, they showed us a movie and blew sh*t up.

Now, the only evidence we have regarding Japan is a collection of manufactured, pixilated nonsense aimed at a mindless and conditioned audience unable to differentiate between what is real and what is fake.

"Man once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such persons, gullibility, which they call faith, takes the helm from the hand of reason, and the mind becomes a wreck." — Thomas Jefferson

Don’t be a useful idiot. Use your eyes. Think critically.

The emperor has no clothes.
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So the Emperor went along in the procession under the splendid canopy, and all the people in the streets and at the windows said, 'How matchless are the Emperor's new clothes! That train fastened to his dress, how beautifully it hangs!'

No one wished it to be noticed that he could see nothing, for then he would have been unfit for his office, or else very stupid. None of the Emperor's clothes had met with such approval as these had.

'But he has nothing on!' said a little child at last.

'Just listen to the innocent child!' said the father, and each one whispered to his neighbour what the child had said.

'But he has nothing on!' the whole of the people called out at last.
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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This clearly appears to be a photoshopped image.
There is no distict details. Edges are blurred and loose proper color tones.
There is no orange on the towers.

And the water looks like outflow water that has been inverted, blown up and placed here and there at odd angles.
The starting point and the concentric rings are moving in the wrong direction.
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well, here are 18 pics of the 4 damaged reactors
look, they appear to standi at a leveled area, that partly was cutted out of the surrounding rocks/hills

here [link to www.flickr.com]


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Which part of "fake photos" do you not understand?
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Ok this is the kind of mix up and confusion that we have been talking about.. this pic illustrates it perfectly..

The picture is of Fukushima ONE.. 6 reactors.. but the article is talking about the damage at fukushima TWO .. 4 reactors..

[link to nuclear-powerplants.blogspot.com]

This has been a big problem in determining which is which when we are talking about them....


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I checked this link today and the picture has changed from when i first posted it... now they are showing the Hiron Oil-Fired Plant also... claiming its one of the Fukushima Plants.. wtf..
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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This clearly appears to be a photoshopped image.
There is no distict details. Edges are blurred and loose proper color tones.
There is no orange on the towers.

And the water looks like outflow water that has been inverted, blown up and placed here and there at odd angles.
The starting point and the concentric rings are moving in the wrong direction.
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well, here are 18 pics of the 4 damaged reactors
look, they appear to standi at a leveled area, that partly was cutted out of the surrounding rocks/hills

here [link to www.flickr.com]


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OK I'm back now. So instead of just saying they are photoshop, I will show you.

The first photo is of Daini which is Fukushima II.
So even though I see anomalys, Well pass it by for the moment.

In photo 2, we see where a pez dispenser has been dumped onto the pic. No I think these were intended to represent shipping containers. When they show debris like this they highlight it and have it segregated from other types of debris. All other debris has been swept away no matter how big or small so that only shipping containers remain? There are no ships at this port. And no debris in the surrounding water. Tanker ships are huge. They have a deep keel and a huge draw that would be impossible to see floating down the streets, so there should be at least one at a busy port with an unexpected event.

Photo 3. Do you see the size of those tanks?! Oh my Gosh!
Note the size of the cars in the photo which the tsunami didn't budge from their parking place, yet topple these phony tanks. Tell me what on Earth we were supposed to believe these behemoths held? They appear to be able to contain 40 to 50 of those cars. Now tell me if they were real, how the heck they were constructed and brought on site? Obviously a wrong scale photoshop of propane type tanks.

Will continue in next post.
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no hills here, on this picture

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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This clearly appears to be a photoshopped image.
There is no distict details. Edges are blurred and loose proper color tones.
There is no orange on the towers.

And the water looks like outflow water that has been inverted, blown up and placed here and there at odd angles.
The starting point and the concentric rings are moving in the wrong direction.
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well, here are 18 pics of the 4 damaged reactors
look, they appear to standi at a leveled area, that partly was cutted out of the surrounding rocks/hills

here [link to www.flickr.com]


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Photo 4. This overhead shows surprisingly little debris for the number of homes swept away. They show you the water line and where it ends, but no masses of debris that one would presume would have washed up there. Also some buildings are intact and can be identified. In the far northwest segment of the pic it has devolved into the usual photoshop mess of unidentifiable objects. But, it is not debris because again, they have shown us a "water line". This is on high and dry land according the the photo.
There are white caps on the shore, but they once again have no floating debris as you would expect.
Tsunamis always flow back out. But, the photoshoppers forget some details that would add realism.

Photo 5 is Daini or Fukushima II where the sky is always clear! And completely obvious that no tsunami swept through here. At least according to the photoshop. A little too pristine.

Photo 6 Ditto.

Photo 7 shows Daiichi Fukushima I with no effort to depict any damage done by a tsunami or debris. And oh darn the sky is cloudy. But, you can barely make out where the explosion that also left no debris, neatly left an even line of cladding below and around the reactor. I don't know what type of explosion was supposed to leave a straight line demarkation, oh well. That's photoshop for you.

To be continued...

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