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**RADIATION PROTECTION**- non prescription list, revised and updated.

 
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Potassium Iodide, Iodate and related products.

Potassium Iodide: (KI)

Blocks uptake of radioactive Iodine 131. Adults 130 mg/day. Must start before or immediately upon exposure. Children between 3 -18 years of age should take one-half of a 130-mg tablet (65 mg). Children between 1 month and 3 years of age should take 1/4 of a 130-mg tablet (32 mg).Infants from birth to 1 month of age should be given 1/8 of a 130-mg tablet (16 mg). Women who are breastfeeding should take the adult dose, and their infants should receive the recommended infant dose. Children who are approaching adult size (greater than or equal to 150 pounds) should take the adult dose regardless of their age. Do not use unless you know that you are being exposed or about to be exposed to dangerous levels of radiation.

Another option is potassium iodate (KIO3)

An adult dose for potassium iodate (KIO3) is 170 mg per day during and preceding exposure.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Topical iodine as an alternative to oral KI or KIO3.

Don’t drink the Lugols solution or betadine as both are toxic when taken orally, but to paint on your skin. Lugols solution and betadine are both still readily available! According to research by Ken Miller, health physicist at the Hershey Medical Center, using 24 healthy adult male test subjects he found that an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination.

Although there were large variations within each subject group in regard to serum-I levels and thyroid uptakes, the increase in serum-I concentration after topical-I application was effective in reducing the thyroid uptake of I131. The authors conclude that in the absence of KI, most humans would benefit from topical application of tincture of-I, and that in some the effectiveness would equal that of oral KI.

Don’t try to drink or swallow iodine such as iodine water purification tablets, tincture of iodine, or Povidone-iodine solutions (like the Betadine® brand solution). If you do that you are going to get sick because iodine is a poison. That’s why iodine bottles are marked poisonous!

The abstract of his study is titled "Effectiveness of Skin Absorption of Tincture of I in Blocking Radioiodine from the Human Thyroid Gland" from Health Physics, June 1989, Vol. 56, No. 6, pages 911-914.

Although the amount given is for an adult male, around 160-170 lbs, I don’t see why a proportionate amount could not be used on the skin of a child as long as they could not lick it off (maybe place on the skin of the lower back). We use Betadine surgical prep on babies or very young children, so it would not be contraindicated as a topical application unless there is an allergy.

So in essence, 8 ml of a 2% solution for an adult male would be 4ml for someone weighing around 85 lbs, 2 ml for someone around 40 lbs, 1 ml for someone around 20 lbs and ½ ml for someone around 10 lbs.
Betadine surgical prep is readily available in feed and supply stores for animal use, so as long as the animal couldn’t lick it off and it was in a non-hair area (painted inside the ear flaps in rabbits or dogs) it might also work for pets.


[link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp]

Calcium iodate:

Calcium iodate is possibly another effective blocker of radioiodine uptake by the thyroid gland. From the study listed below:

"Ca(IO3)2 is permitted by the FDA as a food additive and is "generally regarded as safe" (GRAS, CFR No.1206). We have also compared the efficacy of Ca(IO3)2 with KIO3 in blocking thyroidal uptake of radioiodine, which could be important considering the better shelf life of Ca(IO3). The results of the present study provide us with evidence that Ca(IO3)2 can serve as another promising radioiodine blocker, and is as equipotent as KI/KIO3 in protecting the thyroid gland. We have not found any studies that examined the property of Ca(IO3)2 in blocking radioiodine uptake by the thyroid gland and the present study is an attempt in this direction."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


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 Quoting: emerald eye


Negative on that oral intake of tincture of iodine or betadine. You've been lied to:

EPA link to use iodine tincture to purify water:

[link to water.epa.gov]

One of the HUNDREDS of links for survivalists emergency iodine use:

[link to www.high-altitude-medicine.com]
 Quoting: tkwasny


Thanks for the water purification link.hf

It is also a very good idea to have materials ready for water purification Iodine toxicity is a dose and compound dependant thing. Most iodine is pretty safe unless consumed in gram amounts, however the amounts used to protect the thyroid add up into large doses pretty quickly especially for kids. I don't want anyone to potentially poison themselves or their child because of something that I posted, so I thought it was better to error on the side of caution.

"Acute iodine poisoning is rare and usually occurs only with doses of many grams. Symptoms of acute iodine poisoning include burning of the mouth, throat, and stomach; fever; nausea; vomiting; diarrhea; a weak pulse; and coma."

[link to lpi.oregonstate.edu]
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I just wanted to add this from my other thread, because I thought it was very important.

Sea food will concentrate the plutonium



Mollusks will accumulate plutonium in their edible tissues at concentrations 3,000 times higher than the surrounding water, edible seaweed, 2,000 times higher than surrounding water, crustaceans 300 times and fish 40 times.”



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Potassium Iodide, Iodate and related products.


Next post: (3) Vitamins
 Quoting: emerald eye


Negative on that oral intake of tincture of iodine or betadine. You've been lied to:

EPA link to use iodine tincture to purify water:

[link to water.epa.gov]

One of the HUNDREDS of links for survivalists emergency iodine use:

[link to www.high-altitude-medicine.com]
 Quoting: tkwasny


Thanks for the water purification link.hf

It is also a very good idea to have materials ready for water purification Iodine toxicity is a dose and compound dependant thing. Most iodine is pretty safe unless consumed in gram amounts, however the amounts used to protect the thyroid add up into large doses pretty quickly especially for kids. I don't want anyone to potentially poison themselves or their child because of something that I posted, so I thought it was better to error on the side of caution.

"Acute iodine poisoning is rare and usually occurs only with doses of many grams. Symptoms of acute iodine poisoning include burning of the mouth, throat, and stomach; fever; nausea; vomiting; diarrhea; a weak pulse; and coma."

[link to lpi.oregonstate.edu]
 Quoting: emerald eye


Even large large doses of topical iodine solution can be fatal, especially on an open wound.

"This report presents the case of a patient who expired 10 hours following and emergent hip-wound debridement where Betadine(TM), a povidone iodine solution, was used to provide continuous postoperative wound irrigation. Toxic manifestations of systemic iodine absorption appeared to cause her demise."
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I just wanted to add this from my other thread, because I thought it was very important.

Sea food will concentrate the plutonium



Mollusks will accumulate plutonium in their edible tissues at concentrations 3,000 times higher than the surrounding water, edible seaweed, 2,000 times higher than surrounding water, crustaceans 300 times and fish 40 times.”



[link to books.google.com]
 Quoting: emerald eye


"The number of governments that have banned Japanese food imports due to fears of radiation contamination is growing. On Friday, China joined Singapore and the U.S. in halting some imported foods from radiation-affected areas of Japan. Other governments are expected to take similar precautionary measures as Japan struggles to contain the damage from the Fukushima nuclear plant."

"Many European countries have yet to announce bans on Japanese food imports. Germany and France have started screening food samples. They say there will be no restrictions on Japanese food imports, however, until the test results are back."



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Last Edited by emerald eye on 03/25/2011 11:24 PM
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The thing I don't get is the algae. Spirulina, Chlorella as you listed they are great but they are really not that much different than just eating your greens or taking the supplements they are good for.


Algae is great but ITS WAAAAY TOOO HYPED, they claim it will help with lots of things, but you know what so will a good salad.





I have taken courses in Phycology and actually have algae growing in quite a few containers, more than I'd like to admit lol.
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I just wanted to add this from my other thread, because I thought it was very important.

Sea food will concentrate the plutonium



Mollusks will accumulate plutonium in their edible tissues at concentrations 3,000 times higher than the surrounding water, edible seaweed, 2,000 times higher than surrounding water, crustaceans 300 times and fish 40 times.”



[link to books.google.com]
 Quoting: emerald eye

thanks for that info..I'm glad a have good supply of Tuna and will avoid buying that and my favorite soup (clam chowder) in the future

A few other items that may be promising in dealing with Radiation that you haven't mentioned yet on this thread..

Zeolites- Which is Commonly found in Non clumping kitty litter

Calcium Bentonite clay

Borax

these three seem to be cheap and effective at the same time..I'm not sure what the zeolites do exactly but just in case I've stationed stationed bowls of kitty litter by all my windows in the event it may somehow absorb the airborne radiation...

the last two seem promising to me and are easier to practically apply..as is Baking Soda which you mentioned earlier
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The thing I don't get is the algae. Spirulina, Chlorella as you listed they are great but they are really not that much different than just eating your greens or taking the supplements they are good for.


Algae is great but ITS WAAAAY TOOO HYPED, they claim it will help with lots of things, but you know what so will a good salad.





I have taken courses in Phycology and actually have algae growing in quite a few containers, more than I'd like to admit lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694475



Good for you, you are studying some very interesting stuff.

This is just the tip of the iceberg on some of the studies showing health benefits of spirulina. I will address Chlorella and the brown algae tomorrow, as it is getting late and I am pretty tired.

I have to say that I am not really fond of the taste of spirulina, but I have more energy and sleep better when I use it. Besides, it keeps my eyes green.eyebatrofl

That is just antidotal however, here is more reliable information.

But this should get you started:


"Spirulina is a photosynthetic, filamentous, spiral-shaped and multicellular edible microbe. It is the nature's richest and most complete source of nutrition. Spirulina has a unique blend of nutrients that no single source can offer.
"The alga contains a wide spectrum of prophylactic and therapeutic nutrients that include B-complex vitamins, minerals, proteins, gamma-linolenic acid and the super anti-oxidants such as beta-carotene, vitamin E, trace elements and a number of unexplored bioactive compounds."

"Because of its apparent ability to stimulate whole human physiology, Spirulina exhibits therapeutic functions such as antioxidant, anti-bacterial, antiviral, anticancer, anti-inflammatory, anti-allergic and anti-diabetic and plethora of beneficial functions. Spirulina consumption appears to promote the growth of intestinal micro flora as well. The review discusses the potential of Spirulina in health care management." [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"Spirulina, a filamentous cyanobacterium, possesses diverse biological activities and nutritional significance due to high concentration of natural nutrients, having bio-modulatory and immuno-modulatory functions."
"Different Spirulina preparations influence immune system viz. increase phagocytic activity of macrophages, stimulating the production of antibodies and cytokines, increase accumulation of NK cells into tissue and activation and mobilization of T and B cells."
"Spirulina have also shown to perform regulatory role on lipid and carbohydrate metabolism by exhibiting glucose and lipid profile correcting activity in experimental animals and in diabetic patients."
"Preparations have been found to be active against several enveloped viruses including herpes virus, cytomegalovirus, influenza virus and HIV. They are capable to inhibit carcinogenesis due to anti-oxidant properties that protect tissues and also reduce toxicity of liver, kidney and testes."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

"In this review information of Spirulina platensis (SP), a blue-green alga (photosynthesizing cyanobacterium) having diverse biological activity is presented. Due to high content of highly valuable proteins, indispensable amino acids, vitamins, beta-carotene and other pigments, mineral substances, indispensable fatty acids and polysaccharides, PS has been found suitable for use as bioactive additive. SP produces an immunostimulating effect by enhancing the resistance of humans, mammals, chickens and fish to infections, the capacity of influencing hemopoiesis, stimulating the production of antibodies and cytokines. Under the influence of SP macrophages, T and B cells are activated. SP sulfolipids have proved to be effective against HIV. Preparations obtained from SP biomass have also been found active against herpesvirus, cytomegalovirus, influenza virus, etc. SP extracts are capable in inhibiting cancerogenesis" [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


There are several reports suggesting that Spirulina (Arthrospira) may have a beneficial effect in the prevention of cardiovascular diseases. Here we review the results of studies on the effects of dietary Spirulina on the vasomotor reactivity of aortic rings excised from either lean or obese Wistar rats. We also review preliminary results on the effects of Spirulina intake on plasma lipids and blood pressure in humans.

"In humans, Spirulina maxima intake decreases blood pressure and plasma lipid concentrations, especially triacylglycerols and low-density lipoprotein-cholesterol, and indirectly modifies the total cholesterol and high-density lipoprotein-cholesterol values." [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"Spirulina or Arthrospira is a blue-green alga that became famous after it was successfully used by NASA as a dietary supplement for astronauts on space missions. It has the ability to modulate immune functions and exhibits anti-inflammatory properties by inhibiting the release of histamine by mast cells. Multiple studies investigating the efficacy and the potential clinical applications of Spirulina in treating several diseases have been performed and a few randomized controlled trials and systematic reviews suggest that this alga may improve several symptoms and may even have an anticancer, antiviral and antiallergic effects. Current and potential clinical applications, issues of safety, indications, side-effects and levels of evidence are addressed in this review. Areas of ongoing and future research are also discussed."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


ALSUntangled No. 9: Blue-green algae (Spirulina) as a treatment for ALS.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"Spirulina is a filamentous and multicellular bule-green alga capable of reducing inflammation and also manifesting antioxidant effects. We hypothesized that Spirulina may ameliorate anemia and immunosenescence in senior citizens with a history of anemia"Over the 12-week study period, there was a steady increase in average values of mean corpuscular hemoglobin in subjects of both sexes. In addition, mean corpuscular volume and mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration also increased in male participants. Older women appeared to benefit more rapidly from Spirulina supplements. Similarly, the majority of subjects manifested increased IDO activity and white blood cell count at 6 and 12 weeks of Spirulina supplementation. Spirulina may ameliorate anemia and immunosenescence in older subjects.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]



Spirulina (Arthrospira) Protects Against Cadmium-Induced Teratogenic Damage in Mice.

Spirulina treatment significantly and dose-dependently decreased lipid peroxidation, which was dramatically increased by administration of the metal. The results of the present study clearly point to the therapeutic potential of Spirulina in Cd-induced teratogenicity and probably through its antioxidant activity. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Antioxidant activity and hepatoprotective effects of whey protein and Spirulina in rats.
The in vitro study showed that WPC and Spirulina showed antioxidant, radical scavenging, and metal-chelating activities in dose-dependent manner. The in vivo study showed that both agents succeeded in preventing liver damage induced by CCl(4). This prevention was more pronounced in rats receiving the combination of WPC and Spirulina. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]



"Neuroprotective effect of Spirulina in cerebral ischemia-reperfusion injury in rats.
Pretreatment with Spirulina significantly reduced the histological changes and neurological deficits. Spirulina at a dose of 180 mg/kg significantly reversed the elevated brain malondialdehyde (MDA) content and restored the decreased activities of brain superoxide dismutase (SOD), catalase (CAT), and reduced glutathione (GSH) indicating that Spirulina has the protective potential against cerebral ischemia injury and its protective effects may be due to its antioxidant property."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]



"Spirulina promotes stem cell genesis and protects against LPS induced declines in neural stem cell proliferation When examined on neural stem cells in culture spirulina increased proliferation at baseline and protected against the negative influence of TNFalpha to reduce neural stem cell proliferation. These results support the hypothesis that a diet enriched with spirulina and other nutraceuticals may help protect the stem/progenitor cells from insults."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"We conclude that Spirulina maxima may be considered an alternative treatment for patients with non-alcoholic fatty liver diseases and dyslipidemic disorder."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"Protective effects of Spirulina maxima on hyperlipidemia and oxidative-stress induced by lead acetate in the liver and kidney." [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"Spirulina prevents atherosclerosis by reducing hypercholesterolemia in rabbits fed a high-cholesterol diet".
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"Spirulina improves antioxidant status by reducing oxidative stress in rabbits fed a high-cholesterol diet."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"Chronic arsenic poisoning (arsenicosis) is a major public health problem in Bangladesh. People are consuming high concentration of arsenic (>10 ppb) through their drinking water. But still now, there is no specific treatment of it. Spirulina, natural bluish-green microalgae, is found to be effective in the treatment of arsenicosis recently."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"Both selenium (Se) and Spirulina have been demonstrated to show anticancer potential. In the present study, we showed that Se-enriched Spirulina platensis extract (Se-SE) inhibited the growth of MCF-7 human breast cancer cells through induction of G1 cell cycle arrest and mitochondria-mediated apoptosis."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


"Recent studies show that ingestion of flavanol-rich cocoa powder provokes increased endothelial production of nitric oxide - an effect likely mediated by epicatchin - and thus may have considerable potential for promoting vascular health. The Kuna Indians of Panama, who regularly consume large amounts of flavanol-rich cocoa, are virtually free of hypertension and stroke, even though they salt their food. Of potentially complementary merit is the cyanobacterium spirulina, which has been used as a food in certain cultures. Spirulina is exceptionally rich in phycocyanobilin (PCB), which recently has been shown to act as a potent inhibitor of NADPH oxidase; this effect likely rationalizes the broad range of anti-inflammatory, cytoprotective, and anti-atherosclerotic effects which orally administered spirulina has achieved in rodent studies. In light of the central pathogenic role which NADPH oxidase-derived oxidant stress plays in a vast range of disorders, spirulina or PCB-enriched spirulina extracts may have remarkable potential for preserving and restoring health."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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I DO like how you gave reference though



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694475


I am glad that you appreciated that. It did take a lot of work, but I was always taught to put references in any paper or presentation ..so I guess its an old habit.lol

On a serious note, people deserve to know what the source of the information is so that they can make an informed decision about the validity of that information.

There is a huge amount of garbage floating around on the internet. tantrum Nothing is absolute, but I try to stick with sources that I feel I can personally trust.hf
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I AM MELTING MY FISHING WEIGHTS...moulding thin layers of sheathing...

35 7 POUND ROCK COD SINKERS...
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I just wanted to add this from my other thread, because I thought it was very important.

Sea food will concentrate the plutonium



Mollusks will accumulate plutonium in their edible tissues at concentrations 3,000 times higher than the surrounding water, edible seaweed, 2,000 times higher than surrounding water, crustaceans 300 times and fish 40 times.”



[link to books.google.com]
 Quoting: emerald eye

thanks for that info..I'm glad a have good supply of Tuna and will avoid buying that and my favorite soup (clam chowder) in the future

A few other items that may be promising in dealing with Radiation that you haven't mentioned yet on this thread..

Zeolites- Which is Commonly found in Non clumping kitty litter

Calcium Bentonite clay

Borax

these three seem to be cheap and effective at the same time..I'm not sure what the zeolites do exactly but just in case I've stationed stationed bowls of kitty litter by all my windows in the event it may somehow absorb the airborne radiation...

the last two seem promising to me and are easier to practically apply..as is Baking Soda which you mentioned earlier
 Quoting: RTS



Thanks for bringing that up.


The zeolites were used to condition the soil, to remove radioactive contamination so that crops could be safely grown in the contaminated areas. The reason that I didn't put it in was because I am not sure if ingestion of bentonite clays and zeolites would bind some of the other beneficial substances and keep them from working.


I promise to do some more research tomorrow and add them into the lists if there is no problem with that aspect.

I think having some kitty litter would be a great idea to possibly decontaminate a garden.

"Among the measures that have proven to be effective in reducing levels of incorporated radionuclides in meat production are food additives with ferrocyanides, zeolites, and mineral salts.
Significant decreases in radionuclide levels in crops are achieved using lime/Ca as an antagonist of Sr-90, K fertilizers as antagonists of Cs-137, and phosphoric fertilizers that form a hard, soluble phosphate with Sr-90.

"Disk tillage and replowing of hayfields incorporating applications of organic and mineral fertilizers reduces the levels of Cs-137 and Sr-90 three- to fivefold in herbage grown in mineral soils."
Among food technologies to reduce radionuclide content are cleaning cereal seeds, processing potatoes into starch, processing carbohydrate-containing products into sugars, and processing milk into cream and butter. There are several simple cooking techniques that decrease radionuclides in foodstuffs. Belarus has effectively used some forestry operations to create "a live partition wall," to regulate the redistribution of radionuclides into ecosystems. All such protective measures will be necessary in many European territories for many generations."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Bentonite as well:

"Bentonite amendments are generally ineffective in reducing the soil-to-plant radiocaesium transfer but have previously been shown that bentonites in the K-form having been subjected to wetting-drying cycles had pronounced radiocaesium binding capacities." .."Optimum soil-amendment would be obtained with bentonites with high initial sorption RIP and a high sorption RIP increase when subjected to WD in the presence of potassium. Hypothised Transfer Factor (TF)-reductions of at least 10-fold could result when mixing approximately 1% bentonite, like Otay bentonite (RIP yield 99,000 meq kg(-1) after WD in presence of K if only fine particle size of <1mm considered) with the contaminated ploughing layer."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

I will also look into Borax.
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I just wanted to add this from my other thread, because I thought it was very important.

Sea food will concentrate the plutonium



Mollusks will accumulate plutonium in their edible tissues at concentrations 3,000 times higher than the surrounding water, edible seaweed, 2,000 times higher than surrounding water, crustaceans 300 times and fish 40 times.”



[link to books.google.com]
 Quoting: emerald eye

thanks for that info..I'm glad a have good supply of Tuna and will avoid buying that and my favorite soup (clam chowder) in the future

A few other items that may be promising in dealing with Radiation that you haven't mentioned yet on this thread..

Zeolites- Which is Commonly found in Non clumping kitty litter

Calcium Bentonite clay

Borax

these three seem to be cheap and effective at the same time..I'm not sure what the zeolites do exactly but just in case I've stationed stationed bowls of kitty litter by all my windows in the event it may somehow absorb the airborne radiation...

the last two seem promising to me and are easier to practically apply..as is Baking Soda which you mentioned earlier
 Quoting: RTS



Thanks for bringing that up.

 Quoting: emerald eye


Your welcome..

for the most part I trust the Non- Governmental sources more..

btw..I'm not trying to imply that Multivitamins are not good for you

Last Edited by RTS on 03/26/2011 01:15 AM
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I just wanted to add this from my other thread, because I thought it was very important.

Sea food will concentrate the plutonium



Mollusks will accumulate plutonium in their edible tissues at concentrations 3,000 times higher than the surrounding water, edible seaweed, 2,000 times higher than surrounding water, crustaceans 300 times and fish 40 times.”



[link to books.google.com]
 Quoting: emerald eye

thanks for that info..I'm glad a have good supply of Tuna and will avoid buying that and my favorite soup (clam chowder) in the future

A few other items that may be promising in dealing with Radiation that you haven't mentioned yet on this thread..

Zeolites- Which is Commonly found in Non clumping kitty litter

Calcium Bentonite clay

Borax

these three seem to be cheap and effective at the same time..I'm not sure what the zeolites do exactly but just in case I've stationed stationed bowls of kitty litter by all my windows in the event it may somehow absorb the airborne radiation...

the last two seem promising to me and are easier to practically apply..as is Baking Soda which you mentioned earlier
 Quoting: RTS



Thanks for bringing that up.

 Quoting: emerald eye


Your welcome..

for the most part I trust the Non- Governmental sources more..

btw..I'm not trying to imply that Multivitamins are not good for you
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I have to tell you, that in general I agree with you.

I absolutely do not trust the government, in fact if you take the advice that they give, and you do almost the exact opposite you are usually better off.


I do for the most part have a little more faith in the scientists to report their data. The government will squelch or twist what they think will be beneficial to keep it away from most people, but the raw data will still speak for itself if you know where to look. smile_kiss
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thanks for that info..I'm glad a have good supply of Tuna and will avoid buying that and my favorite soup (clam chowder) in the future

A few other items that may be promising in dealing with Radiation that you haven't mentioned yet on this thread..

Zeolites- Which is Commonly found in Non clumping kitty litter

Calcium Bentonite clay

Borax

these three seem to be cheap and effective at the same time..I'm not sure what the zeolites do exactly but just in case I've stationed stationed bowls of kitty litter by all my windows in the event it may somehow absorb the airborne radiation...

the last two seem promising to me and are easier to practically apply..as is Baking Soda which you mentioned earlier
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Thanks for bringing that up.

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Your welcome..

for the most part I trust the Non- Governmental sources more..

btw..I'm not trying to imply that Multivitamins are not good for you
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I have to tell you, that in general I agree with you.

I absolutely do not trust the government, in fact if you take the advice that they give, and you do almost the exact opposite you are usually better off.


I do for the most part have a little more faith in the scientists to report their data. The government will squelch or twist what they think will be beneficial to keep it away from most people, but the raw data will still speak for itself if you know where to look. smile_kiss
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I agree..it's time to think outside of the box for what to do..

this is potentially VERY serious..despite what they tell us 'officially'
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“The following information pertains to reproductive risks of radiation exposures to women who are pregnant and have questions about the risk of birth defects and miscarriage. It is also for men and women who are concerned about radiation exposures they have had that might impact the development of their sperm or their eggs (ova) and their risk of genetic diseases because of the radiation exposure.”

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Government: too little, too late, and not enough


$$$$$$$$$ allotted in 2004, and nothing significant to show for it in 2011.




"Nuclear leak reinforces need for drugs to combat radiation”

“In the aftermath of Japan’s 9.0-magnitude earthquake and subsequent tsunami, evacuation centers surrounding the crippled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station stockpiled nearly a quarter-million doses of potassium iodide as a preventative measure against radiation poisoning. These pills protect people from the long-term risks of thyroid cancer associated with chronic radiation exposure, but they do little to guard against the ill effects of high-dose radiation toxicity.”

Unfortunately, no drugs are currently approved to treat the extreme radiation sickness that plant workers or emergency personnel may experience. Yet, thanks to investment from the US government, several candidate compounds might soon be available in the event of another nuclear catastrophe.”

The Project BioShield Act, passed by Congress in 2004, and the Pandemic and All-Hazard Preparedness Act, signed into law two years later, allotted billions of dollars in funding for research into medical countermeasures to be used in the case of nuclear, chemical and biological attacks. These government awards include more than $500 million for the treatment and prevention of so-called acute radiation syndrome (ARS), the extreme radiation sickness associated with exposure to high doses of ionizing radiation over a short period of time.’

If any of these workers are diagnosed with ARS, their treatment options currently are limited to antibiotics, blood transfusions and fluid supplements that deal with the symptoms of the disease. Physicians also sometimes administer cancer drugs that help the immune system rebound, but these drugs must be given in medical facilities. Now, however, researchers are developing biologics and small molecule drugs that be used in the field to stem radiation’s ill effects.”

One of the lead candidates — a drug called CBLB502 being developed by Cleveland BioLabs of Buffalo, New York — binds an immune protein called Toll-like receptor 5 to activate a cell survival pathway. In unpublished data from rodent and monkey models, the drug, which is derived from a protein found in the flagella of Salmonella bacteria, remained “very efficacious” up to 48 hours after exposure, according to Cleveland BioLabs’ chief scientific officer Andrei Gudkov.

[link to blogs.nature.com]

This is and example of what I said earlier that anything useful will be slowed hidden or “not available” to the public. The data is often hidden unless you know where to look for it.

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More information: (A short list from huffingtonpost.com)

Natural ways to reduce radiation load in your body
These are some simple ways for everyone to reduce exposure and radiation load:

• Introduce more chlorophyll-rich foods into your diet, such as seaweed, kelp, blue-green algae, spirulina, and chlorella. These plants contain rich minerals, including iodine, that bind up the receptors site in your thyroid so that any radioactive iodine that you end up being exposed to will be unable to harm your thyroid. These foods also contain potent antioxidants, like selenium, that prevent destructive free radical activity and cancerous growth, as well as chelating agents that bind to toxins and eliminate them from your body.

• Eat antioxidant-rich foods of every color, especially cherries, blueberries, pomegranates, yams, and sweet potatoes. The variety of antioxidants found in these foods help your body to mop up free radicals and toxins.

• Drink six to eight 8-ounce glasses of filtered water every day to flush and hydrate your system.

• Consider taking vitamin C, E, and D to assist antioxidant actions within your body. Also, alpha lipoic acid is a nutrient that protects cells from radiation damage.

• Herbs like dandelion, peppermint, and chrysanthemum help the body detoxify.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

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Thank you for this thread, I need to do some shopping.
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Thank you for this thread, I need to do some shopping.
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You are so welcome!hearts

Best to shop now, before things become "unavailable" or contaminated. Especially worry about contamination with the things from the sea, such as the alginates and seaweed products.
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In the number 2 turbine building we have now found 10 million times the amounts of radiation” from some Japanese professor on NHK"

Then NHK goes mute for about six seconds…but I know what I just heard…scared.


”The leakage route is not yet identified” The water discharged into the sea went to 1,850 times higher yesterday”

Not at all good, people preparehf

[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]

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I looked last week for a bottle of Betadine and they were all sold out. It's back in stock now after the initial panic buy at Walgreens. $20 for 8oz. 237ml/8ml per dose = 29 days.
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I looked last week for a bottle of Betadine and they were all sold out. It's back in stock now after the initial panic buy at Walgreens. $20 for 8oz. 237ml/8ml per dose = 29 days.
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$13-18 for 8 oz online, if they still have a supply




Also try a feed store, or a vet supply store as it might be cheaper for a larger amount.



This is why I have been trying to warn people to get these items ASAP if they plan to be proactive because prices will also increase with demand.
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Getting real folks:


"The plant operator, known as TEPCO, says it measured 2.9-billion becquerels of radiation per one cubic centimeter of water from the basement of the turbine building attached to the Number 2 reactor."
"The company says the latest reading is 10-million times the usual radioactivity of water circulating within a normally operating reactor. TEPCO says the radioactive materials include 2.9-billion becquerels of iodine-134, 13-million becquerels of iodine-131, and 2.3-million becquerels each for cesium 134 and 137."


"These substances are emitted during nuclear fission inside a reactor core." [link to www.reddit.com]
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Perspective:

"The water in the Fukushima Dai-Ichi No. 2 reactor’s turbine building was measured at more than 1,000 millisieverts per hour, Japan’s nuclear safety agency said today. That’s higher than the dose that would cause vomiting, hair loss and diarrhea, according to the World Nuclear Association. Repeated exposure may lift fatal cancer incidence by 5 percentage points".


“That’s very high -- the normal radiation level that we receive over a year is about four millisieverts,” said Stephen Lincoln, a nuclear power and uranium specialist at the University of Adelaide. “When you’re getting up to 1,000 millisieverts this is a really rather large leakage.”


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bump
Especially for those in Japan.
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May the Most High bless you for sharing such AWESOME information!!!

Shalom,

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May the Most High bless you for sharing such AWESOME information!!!

Shalom,

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Wow Thanks!hf

I do feel as though I have been blessed many times in my life, so if I can do any good for others, I am honored to do so.u2efine
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