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**RADIATION PROTECTION**- non prescription list, revised and updated.

 
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Thank you for the excellent research and summary. I have been doing my own research and I have come up with much of the same information. it is very nice how you have organised this page
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Thank you for the excellent research and summary. I have been doing my own research and I have come up with much of the same information. it is very nice how you have organised this page
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You are so welcome!

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Plutonium:


I have been searching for something that might decrease the risk of cancer from inhaled plutonium. Vitamin C seems to be the best candidate that I have found to date.

”However, the incidence of squamous cell carcinomas in animals exposed to plutonium and vitamin C decreased with increasing dose of vitamin C. The authors stated that vitamin C may interfere with the progression of squamous cell metaplasia to squamous cell carcinoma. ”

(This PDF contains everything you would want to know about plutonium):


[link to www.atsdr.cdc.gov]

More info:

"The primary plutonium hazard is considered to result from Inhalation of the aerosol. "

"Modes of entry into the body other than Inhalation are considered to be less hazardous. These include abortion through the intact skin, deposition in open wounds and Ingestion via foods grown or produced on contaminated ground "

[link to www.dtic.mil]
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Plutonium:


I have been searching for something that might decrease the risk of cancer from inhaled plutonium. Vitamin C seems to be the best candidate that I have found to date.

”However, the incidence of squamous cell carcinomas in animals exposed to plutonium and vitamin C decreased with increasing dose of vitamin C. The authors stated that vitamin C may interfere with the progression of squamous cell metaplasia to squamous cell carcinoma. ”

(This PDF contains everything you would want to know about plutonium):


[link to www.atsdr.cdc.gov]

More info:

"The primary plutonium hazard is considered to result from Inhalation of the aerosol. "

"Modes of entry into the body other than Inhalation are considered to be less hazardous. These include abortion through the intact skin, deposition in open wounds and Ingestion via foods grown or produced on contaminated ground "

[link to www.dtic.mil]
 Quoting: emerald eye


I believe that is because plutonium is an alpha emitter. Alpha particle are very distructive to tissue they hit, but are too large to penetrate very deaply. This means that they cause a burn on the skin, but do not cause deep damage. If inhaled or ingested, it's a whole different story. They are very distructive and cause many different cancers. Gamma rays, on the other hand penetrate deeply, but are so small they pass between stuctures in the tissue. Unfortunately, they do ocasionally hit the DNA or other structures, causing damage and mutation (cancer). Best bet, stay away from both, or use blocking substances listed on this thread. If exposed to either, you don't want to give them a home to stay.
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Plutonium:


I have been searching for something that might decrease the risk of cancer from inhaled plutonium. Vitamin C seems to be the best candidate that I have found to date.

”However, the incidence of squamous cell carcinomas in animals exposed to plutonium and vitamin C decreased with increasing dose of vitamin C. The authors stated that vitamin C may interfere with the progression of squamous cell metaplasia to squamous cell carcinoma. ”

(This PDF contains everything you would want to know about plutonium):


[link to www.atsdr.cdc.gov]

More info:

"The primary plutonium hazard is considered to result from Inhalation of the aerosol. "

"Modes of entry into the body other than Inhalation are considered to be less hazardous. These include abortion through the intact skin, deposition in open wounds and Ingestion via foods grown or produced on contaminated ground "

[link to www.dtic.mil]
 Quoting: emerald eye


I believe that is because plutonium is an alpha emitter. Alpha particle are very distructive to tissue they hit, but are too large to penetrate very deaply. This means that they cause a burn on the skin, but do not cause deep damage. If inhaled or ingested, it's a whole different story. They are very distructive and cause many different cancers. Gamma rays, on the other hand penetrate deeply, but are so small they pass between stuctures in the tissue. Unfortunately, they do ocasionally hit the DNA or other structures, causing damage and mutation (cancer). Best bet, stay away from both, or use blocking substances listed on this thread. If exposed to either, you don't want to give them a home to stay.
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This is a great PDF on plutonium: [link to www.atsdr.cdc.gov]
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On the recent concern about milk:

"Health lessons from Chernobyl"

"Davis: For the thyroid, the worst pathway by far is through milk. Second are green and leafy vegetables, and fruits. Inhalation and water are less important."

"CNN: Dr. David Brenner of Columbia University said that upwards of 90 percent of thyroid cancer cases around Chernobyl could have been avoided if authorities had simply told people to stop drinking milk. Do you agree with that?"

"Davis: Yes, I do."


[link to thechart.blogs.cnn.com]
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Excellent thread!

Thanks for this

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Why isnt this pinned?????bump
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Thank you OP
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You are most welcome!hf

I am planning to try to add some more this evening if I have some time.
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Why isnt this pinned?????bump
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Sorry...lol

I don’t have any control over that.worship
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look into reishi !!!! red mushroom protects like nothing else!!!!
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Wery interesting readings emerald eye ;)

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red mushroom protects like nothing else!!!!
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Why isnt this pinned?????bump
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There is a good question. A thread like this that is full of timely, pertinent info that could save the lives of GLP's and their families should be pinned permanently. Every time some speculates about the radiation, it gets a pin, but life saving info doesn't.
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There is a good question. A thread like this that is full of timely, pertinent info that could save the lives of GLP's and their families should be pinned permanently. Every time some speculates about the radiation, it gets a pin, but life saving info doesn't.
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lol
I may have pissed off too many government shills arguing with them on other threads. agumball
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There has been a lot of discussion about how severe the Chernobyl event really was in terms of human life and suffering. This is an excellent article that puts it into perspective"

"Chernobyl Radiation Killed Nearly One Million People: New Book"

"NEW YORK, New York, April 26, 2010 (ENS) - Nearly one million people around the world died from exposure to radiation released by the 1986 nuclear disaster at the Chernobyl reactor, finds a new book from the New York Academy of Sciences published today on the 24th anniversary of the meltdown at the Soviet facility."

"The authors examined more than 5,000 published articles and studies, most written in Slavic languages and never before available in English."

"The authors said, "For the past 23 years, it has been clear that there is a danger greater than nuclear weapons concealed within nuclear power. Emissions from this one reactor exceeded a hundred-fold the radioactive contamination of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki."

"Their findings are in contrast to estimates by the World Health Organization and the International Atomic Energy Agency that initially said only 31 people had died among the "liquidators," those approximately 830,000 people who were in charge of extinguishing the fire at the Chernobyl reactor and deactivation and cleanup of the site".
"The book finds that by 2005, between 112,000 and 125,000 liquidators had died."


"Yablokov and his co-authors find that radioactive emissions from the stricken reactor, once believed to be 50 million curies, may have been as great as 10 billion curies, or 200 times greater than the initial estimate, and hundreds of times larger than the fallout from the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki."

"Nations outside the former Soviet Union received high doses of radioactive fallout, most notably Norway, Sweden, Finland, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Austria, Romania, Greece, and parts of the United Kingdom and Germany."

"About 550 million Europeans, and 150 to 230 million others in the Northern Hemisphere received notable contamination. Fallout reached the United States and Canada nine days after the disaster."

"The proportion of children considered healthy born to irradiated parents in Belarus, the Ukraine, and European Russia considered healthy fell from about 80 percent to less than 20 percent since 1986."

"Numerous reports reviewed for this book document elevated disease rates in the Chernobyl area. These include increased fetal and infant deaths, birth defects, and diseases of the respiratory, digestive, musculoskeletal, nervous, endocrine, reproductive, hematological, urological, cardiovascular, genetic, immune, and other systems, as well as cancers and non-cancerous tumors."

"Foods produced in highly contaminated areas in the former Soviet Union were shipped, and consumed worldwide, affecting persons in many other nations. Some, but not all, contamination was detected and contaminated foods not shipped".

"The authors warn that the soil, foliage, and water in highly contaminated areas still contain substantial levels of radioactive chemicals, and will continue to harm humans for decades to come. "

"The book explores effects of Chernobyl fallout that arrived above the United States nine days after the disaster. Fallout entered the U.S. environment and food chain through rainfall. Levels of iodine-131 in milk, for example, were seven to 28 times above normal in May and June 1986. The authors found that the highest U.S. radiation levels were recorded in the Pacific Northwest."

"Americans also consumed contaminated food imported from nations affected by the disaster. Four years later, 25 percent of imported food was found to be still contaminated."


Sorry I can't post the whole thing, but well worth the few minutes it takes to read.
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Amazing thread, OP

Thanks for the information!hf
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Don't let this thread get buried in the usual GLP BS...

People are going to need this soon, unlike the worthless crap always pinned.

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Don't let this thread get buried in the usual GLP BS...

People are going to need this soon, unlike the worthless crap always pinned.

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Unfortunately you are probably correct about needing this information soon.

Chernobyl was covered up and even now, 25 years later (JFK style), some more of the truth is coming out. Don’t believe the lies, this is getting bad.
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Needs repeating, This is too important!!!!

On the recent concern about milk:

"Health lessons from Chernobyl"

"Davis: For the thyroid, the worst pathway by far is through milk. Second are green and leafy vegetables, and fruits. Inhalation and water are less important."

"CNN: Dr. David Brenner of Columbia University said that upwards of 90 percent of thyroid cancer cases around Chernobyl could have been avoided if authorities had simply told people to stop drinking milk. Do you agree with that?"

"Davis: Yes, I do."


[link to thechart.blogs.cnn.com]
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You don’t really need milk once past the tiny baby stage:

A reference for all age groups:
Calcium Supplement Guidelines

[link to ag.arizona.edu]
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Iron can be very problematic ..

there are different forms of iron .. inro2 and iron3

usually in pills iron2 is used
iron3 comes from plants

even small amounts of iron2 can help bakteria and viruses to grow and help to develop cancer.

In a sitation of contamination .. the last thing you want to take is iron2.

Because the highest premise in such a case is to don't get ill.

When you get ill your immunesystem trys to get rid of iron2 to get you healthy again. This process was long time misunderstood.. and it was believed that the immunesystem uses it up, so you have to substitute it ... but this wrong and people got ill and cancer.
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Iron can be very problematic ..

there are different forms of iron .. inro2 and iron3

usually in pills iron2 is used
iron3 comes from plants

even small amounts of iron2 can help bakteria and viruses to grow and help to develop cancer.

In a sitation of contamination .. the last thing you want to take is iron2.

Because the highest premise in such a case is to don't get ill.

When you get ill your immunesystem trys to get rid of iron2 to get you healthy again. This process was long time misunderstood.. and it was believed that the immunesystem uses it up, so you have to substitute it ... but this wrong and people got ill and cancer.
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Thanks for bringing this up:

Iron forms compounds mainly in the +2 and +3 oxidation states. Traditionally, iron(II) compounds are called ferrous, and iron(III) compounds ferric.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

ferrous (iron(II)) vs ferric (iron(III))

RESULTS: Fe2+ or GSH alone produced little DNA damage. However, their combination produced a dramatic increase in the production of both SSB and DSB. Experiments with ferric ion suggest that it produces DNA damage only after partial reduction to ferrous by GSH. Induction efficiencies for SSB in the presence of Fe2+/GSH showed additivity of the effects of radiation alone with those from Fe2+/GSH. However, the corresponding induction efficiencies for DSB demonstrated a 2.5-fold enhancement.

CONCLUSIONS: Our results are consistent with a model in which reduced bivalent metal ions plus thiols, in the presence of O2, produce DSB in DNA primarily via local clusters of hydroxyl radicals arising from site specific Fenton reactions. The synergism observed between DSB production by Fe/GSH and by ionizing radiation, also believed to occur via local clusters of hydroxyl radicals, is consistent with this model. Our results suggest that both normally present intracellular iron and ionizing radiation may be important sources of oxidative stress in cells.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

According to Iowa State University, ferrous forms of iron are more easily absorbed than ferric forms. Ferrous sulfate is the cheapest and most common form of iron, but some people may experience gastrointestinal distress while taking ferrous sulfate. Although ferrous gluconate is typically more expensive than ferrous sulfate, it is milder on the stomach.

[link to www.ehow.com]


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Availability of iron to rats from spirulina, a blue-green algae.by P. Johnson and E. Shubert. 1986. Pub. in Nutrition Research Vol 6, 85-94. USA.



Spirulina contains a highly available form of of iron. It is unusual to find plant-derived iron that is highly available. Absorption of iron by rats and humans has been found to be highly correlated.

Spirulina fed rats absorbed iron more than or equal to rats fed iron from an iron supplement, ferrous sulfate.

In comparison, absorption of iron from potatoes and whole wheat bread is about half of ferrous sulfate. It appears spirulina is a fairly concentrated source of available iron.

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