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HAVE RESIDUAL RADIATION LEVELS ON THE US WEST COAST INCREASED SINCE LAST WEEKEND?

 
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Is there any gieger counter data on the West Coast which would indicate a general upswing in residual radiation levels at various points along the West Coast of the US versus last weekend when the government indicated very low levels of radiation were detected on West Coast?
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PEOPLE! We have a grave crisis of radiation spreading from the Fuk nuke plant Eastward. Why, exactly, is there no interest in gieger counter readings across the US West Coast on GLP at this time? Where can reliable US West coast gieger counter readings be located on the internet?

Its been a week since the first reported radiation was reported on the East Coast due to the Fuk Nuke Plant. What has happened in the past 7 days with radiation on the US West Coast?
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Here's two from EPA if you want to trust them.

This one lists a range of dates:
[link to cdxnode64.epa.gov (secure)]

And this one has a map and you click on the location to see the whole month's readings for that location.
[link to www.epa.gov]

I've also been following this thread but they need more people with Geiger counters on west coast.
Thread: ****** GLP RADIATION REPORTING CENTER ****** (Page 24)
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PEOPLE! We have a grave crisis of radiation spreading from the Fuk nuke plant Eastward. Why, exactly, is there no interest in gieger counter readings across the US West Coast on GLP at this time? Where can reliable US West coast gieger counter readings be located on the internet?

Its been a week since the first reported radiation was reported on the East Coast due to the Fuk Nuke Plant. What has happened in the past 7 days with radiation on the US West Coast?
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Afraid thats a no show
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the EPA is not your friend

[link to www.collapsenet.com]
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yes
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I agree, someone must have a dosimeter, geiger, something! Anyone have friends at the Universities?
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Don't know about an increase, but recent radiation detections have now been determined to be from radioactive iodine in San Diego.
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Dosimeter readings in central oregon. Also a nukealert stationed in Portland is not chirping at all. (It chirps at 0.1 Rads an hour so it is lower then that.

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Radioactive iodine(Jod in German) has reached Germany.

[link to www.tv-suedbaden.de]
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We have numbers climbing higher here in west l.a.:
[link to www.ustream.tv]

As for the EPA site, I have only been able to get a message stating "Levels redorded are thousands of times lower than what would be considered harmful". EXCEPT THAT, they now admit that several of their gauges have been malfunctioning throughout the Japan debacle, so unreliable at best, purposely hiding info at worst.

And then there's RADNET, www.radiationnetwork.com, which has been showing no fluctuations above about 30 cpm, which for some reason looks completely bogus to me. I don't trust this site as much as the one where I can see the counter myself.

The only site that looks legit is the one showing the measurements on screen, and it says the levels are beginning to climb from usually 42-60, to now above 70's at times.

Does anyone else on West Coast have their own counter they could post data from?
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PEOPLE! We have a grave crisis of radiation spreading from the Fuk nuke plant Eastward. Why, exactly, is there no interest in gieger counter readings across the US West Coast on GLP at this time? Where can reliable US West coast gieger counter readings be located on the internet?

Its been a week since the first reported radiation was reported on the East Coast due to the Fuk Nuke Plant. What has happened in the past 7 days with radiation on the US West Coast?
 Quoting: FLUFFY PUPPY


No shit! You don't say????????? If you cared so much why are you just asking about it now and why don't you know that answer to your own stupid question? Im sorry but that just hit me all kinds of wrong.

We cant get a straight answer out of the EPA. The readings they are giving are cryptic and no regular person can understand what they mean. And now they are saying that 18 (was 22), of the monitoring stations arent and have not been working properly. I have emailed them, called them, and get no reply.

I have a very precious 4yr old grandson and every time I even think about him out playing in the radiation, breathing it in, touching it....I come unglued. And IF we are getting levels that are unsafe,we could at least protect his thyroid from the Iodide. But most people aren't taking this seriously so w/o solid info from our lovely gov't officials....we are fuct.

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Lowered actually.
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Hard to said , there is no one left out there to measure the radiation !!

All zombies and mutants !!

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the EPA is not your friend

[link to www.collapsenet.com]
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Holy caca-molly! What an awesome find...you all are a great researcher!!!

This confirms what has been said here for a week...this along with the possibility of the stuxnet being involved...maybe...and the records of a EPA cover up of large amounts of radiation hitting the country BEFORE the earthquake...and we saw obama announce he was going to Rio when? Did they know something happened before the quake??

Excellent work all!
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We have numbers climbing higher here in west l.a.:
[link to www.ustream.tv]

As for the EPA site, I have only been able to get a message stating "Levels redorded are thousands of times lower than what would be considered harmful". EXCEPT THAT, they now admit that several of their gauges have been malfunctioning throughout the Japan debacle, so unreliable at best, purposely hiding info at worst.

And then there's RADNET, www.radiationnetwork.com, which has been showing no fluctuations above about 30 cpm, which for some reason looks completely bogus to me. I don't trust this site as much as the one where I can see the counter myself.

The only site that looks legit is the one showing the measurements on screen, and it says the levels are beginning to climb from usually 42-60, to now above 70's at times.

Does anyone else on West Coast have their own counter they could post data from?
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Totally bogus site....
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"Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years and emits alpha particles" IE you cant detect it with a Geiger counter unless theres a shitload of it, in which case you are already fucked.

[link to www.idealist.ws]

The fallout we are receive from Japan is a bunch of microscopic radioactive particles dispersed by the jet stream. Its not concentrated enough to significantly raise radiation readings on a geiger counter, RADNET, or any of the other sites (blackcat/radiationnetwork). You need to to measure it with a mass spectrometer, which nobody is doing except maybe the EPA or some other agency, but they aren't saying shit obviously.

Check UC Berkeleys forum at:

[link to www.nuc.berkeley.edu]

And watch how vague or cryptic they get when discussing any alpha emitting radionuclides. They admitted they don't have access to a mass spectrometer and if they where able to detect it in there samples, it would be only be in large amounts (ie we would already be fucked).

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I agree, someone must have a dosimeter, geiger, something! Anyone have friends at the Universities?
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Dosimeter in central oregon and nukalert in Portland.

Sorry to be redundant but i am pretty sure this is going to get updated as well
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the EPA is not your friend

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Wow...That would make a real eye opening thread.
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I agree, someone must have a dosimeter, geiger, something! Anyone have friends at the Universities?
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Dosimeter in central oregon and nukalert in Portland.

Sorry to be redundant but i am pretty sure this is going to get updated as well
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Forgot the link so i get to be extra redundant lol

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"Plutonium-238 has a half-life of 88 years and emits alpha particles" ie you cant detect it with a Geiger counter.
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Or Plutonium
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Radioactive iodine(Jod in German) has reached Germany.

[link to www.tv-suedbaden.de]
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TRANSLATED:

Radioactive iodine measured in Germany

BERLIN According to spokesperson of the Federal Environment Ministry, the dose was harmless

For the first time radioactive iodine from Japan has been measured in Germany. The dose was safe, said a spokeswoman with the Federal Environment Ministry. The tracks were last night among other things, the measurement site of the Federal Office for Radiation Protection was measured on the Schauinsland. The dose was more than a million times lower than the dose that a person get by natural radiation. The customs shall now all shipments of goods from Japan with Geiger counters.
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Radioactive iodine(Jod in German) has reached Germany.

[link to www.tv-suedbaden.de]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314709


TRANSLATED:

Radioactive iodine measured in Germany

BERLIN According to spokesperson of the Federal Environment Ministry, the dose was harmless

For the first time radioactive iodine from Japan has been measured in Germany. The dose was safe, said a spokeswoman with the Federal Environment Ministry. The tracks were last night among other things, the measurement site of the Federal Office for Radiation Protection was measured on the Schauinsland. The dose was more than a million times lower than the dose that a person get by natural radiation. The customs shall now all shipments of goods from Japan with Geiger counters.
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I wonder why they must scan all incoming goods when the radiation is so safe? huffy

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PEOPLE! We have a grave crisis of radiation spreading from the Fuk nuke plant Eastward. Why, exactly, is there no interest in gieger counter readings across the US West Coast on GLP at this time? Where can reliable US West coast gieger counter readings be located on the internet?

Its been a week since the first reported radiation was reported on the East Coast due to the Fuk Nuke Plant. What has happened in the past 7 days with radiation on the US West Coast?
 Quoting: FLUFFY PUPPY


No shit! You don't say????????? If you cared so much why are you just asking about it now and why don't you know that answer to your own stupid question? Im sorry but that just hit me all kinds of wrong.

We cant get a straight answer out of the EPA. The readings they are giving are cryptic and no regular person can understand what they mean. And now they are saying that 18 (was 22), of the monitoring stations arent and have not been working properly. I have emailed them, called them, and get no reply.

I have a very precious 4yr old grandson and every time I even think about him out playing in the radiation, breathing it in, touching it....I come unglued. And IF we are getting levels that are unsafe,we could at least protect his thyroid from the Iodide. But most people aren't taking this seriously so w/o solid info from our lovely gov't officials....we are fuct.
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Yes...we have been is more like it. As you see...the records speak for them selves and now you add this:

[link to www.collapsenet.com]


It is coming together as we see it. Time tells all things.

Hold it together kid...you are doing well because you care. You are onto a lot of trails...put them all together.

Think like a scout and always be prepared. Protect yourself and your grandchildren. You know and feel in your heart that something is wrong and you know they consistently lie.

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Radioactive iodine(Jod in German) has reached Germany.

[link to www.tv-suedbaden.de]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314709


TRANSLATED:

Radioactive iodine measured in Germany

BERLIN According to spokesperson of the Federal Environment Ministry, the dose was harmless

For the first time radioactive iodine from Japan has been measured in Germany. The dose was safe, said a spokeswoman with the Federal Environment Ministry. The tracks were last night among other things, the measurement site of the Federal Office for Radiation Protection was measured on the Schauinsland. The dose was more than a million times lower than the dose that a person get by natural radiation. The customs shall now all shipments of goods from Japan with Geiger counters.
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I wonder why they must scan all incoming goods when the radiation is so safe? huffy

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The human body absorbs iodine right away, so no matter what the dose is, even if it is so tiny one cant measure it, the body will absord it in the thyroid right away if one has a iodine deficiency.
So the article was very tricky and plays on words and is basically false. The radiation from the amount of radioactive iodine is harmless, but what happens when your thryoid absorbs it becomes deadly. It is not harmless.

I have been eating miso soup, eating kelp, and using iodine in the form of tincture to make sure I did not have a iodine deficiency. I started one week before the accident in Japan. My soul told me to.
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Radioactive iodine(Jod in German) has reached Germany.

[link to www.tv-suedbaden.de]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314709


TRANSLATED:

Radioactive iodine measured in Germany

BERLIN According to spokesperson of the Federal Environment Ministry, the dose was harmless

For the first time radioactive iodine from Japan has been measured in Germany. The dose was safe, said a spokeswoman with the Federal Environment Ministry. The tracks were last night among other things, the measurement site of the Federal Office for Radiation Protection was measured on the Schauinsland. The dose was more than a million times lower than the dose that a person get by natural radiation. The customs shall now all shipments of goods from Japan with Geiger counters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311090

I wonder why they must scan all incoming goods when the radiation is so safe? huffy

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The human body absorbs iodine right away, so no matter what the dose is, even if it is so tiny one cant measure it, the body will absord it in the thyroid right away if one has a iodine deficiency.
So the article was very tricky and plays on words and is basically false. The radiation from the amount of radioactive iodine is harmless, but what happens when your thryoid absorbs it becomes deadly. It is not harmless.

I have been eating miso soup, eating kelp, and using iodine in the form of tincture to make sure I did not have a iodine deficiency. I started one week before the accident in Japan. My soul told me to.
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So what does kelp taste like?...and please dont say chicken chuckle
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TRANSLATED:

Radioactive iodine measured in Germany

BERLIN According to spokesperson of the Federal Environment Ministry, the dose was harmless

For the first time radioactive iodine from Japan has been measured in Germany. The dose was safe, said a spokeswoman with the Federal Environment Ministry. The tracks were last night among other things, the measurement site of the Federal Office for Radiation Protection was measured on the Schauinsland. The dose was more than a million times lower than the dose that a person get by natural radiation. The customs shall now all shipments of goods from Japan with Geiger counters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311090

I wonder why they must scan all incoming goods when the radiation is so safe? huffy

Hippocrits
 Quoting: RememberThis

The human body absorbs iodine right away, so no matter what the dose is, even if it is so tiny one cant measure it, the body will absord it in the thyroid right away if one has a iodine deficiency.
So the article was very tricky and plays on words and is basically false. The radiation from the amount of radioactive iodine is harmless, but what happens when your thryoid absorbs it becomes deadly. It is not harmless.

I have been eating miso soup, eating kelp, and using iodine in the form of tincture to make sure I did not have a iodine deficiency. I started one week before the accident in Japan. My soul told me to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314709


So what does kelp taste like?...and please dont say chicken chuckle
 Quoting: RememberThis

I have a few different kinds of kelp. Some tastes very fishy. Others have no taste whatsoever. I actually like eating it. I also use a salt that comes from a very old seabed in the mountains of Germany, and it is very high in natural iodine. That is delicious.
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Someone at the Ustream site mentioned this one which monitors 6 locations:
[link to www.simplyhydroponic.com]

Anyone know how many days we can receive and absorb radioactive iodine into our thyroids before it accumulates to a harmful level? I have kids, too, and am afraid to let them play out in the yard.
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Someone at the Ustream site mentioned this one which monitors 6 locations:
[link to www.simplyhydroponic.com]

Anyone know how many days we can receive and absorb radioactive iodine into our thyroids before it accumulates to a harmful level? I have kids, too, and am afraid to let them play out in the yard.
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Fuck iodine, google Plutonium.
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Someone at the Ustream site mentioned this one which monitors 6 locations:
[link to www.simplyhydroponic.com]

Anyone know how many days we can receive and absorb radioactive iodine into our thyroids before it accumulates to a harmful level? I have kids, too, and am afraid to let them play out in the yard.
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We are at that point now where continued use of KI will be as bad as the radiation itself....and so it continues
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Someone at the Ustream site mentioned this one which monitors 6 locations:
[link to www.simplyhydroponic.com]

Anyone know how many days we can receive and absorb radioactive iodine into our thyroids before it accumulates to a harmful level? I have kids, too, and am afraid to let them play out in the yard.
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Fuck iodine, google Plutonium.
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