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HAVE RESIDUAL RADIATION LEVELS ON THE US WEST COAST INCREASED SINCE LAST WEEKEND?

 
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Someone at the Ustream site mentioned this one which monitors 6 locations:
[link to www.simplyhydroponic.com]

Anyone know how many days we can receive and absorb radioactive iodine into our thyroids before it accumulates to a harmful level? I have kids, too, and am afraid to let them play out in the yard.
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Fuck iodine, google Plutonium.
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Ok, just researched that, and it looks like we can look for the all-clear in only 24,000 more years, so...whew! What a relief. I was beginning to worry that we'd screwed up the planet for good!

So, you see? There's NO reason why the people in charge would hide anything from us at all...pffft...worrying...so silly.

I'm actually organizing and pre-packing stuff I'd want to take during an evacuation. Unconsciously, kind of. Like, I'm "spring cleaning" but it's different this time.
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Well, stop worrying about some minor radiation from Japan, you have your own radioactive waste dump contaminating the country: [link to www.spiegel.de]
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I picked up some Kombu and agar which has iodine listed as 100%/70% respectively. It's hard/dryed/flakes, so I put it in my magic bullet and ground it up and took some empty capsules and then all I had to do is swallow them.
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Well, stop worrying about some minor radiation from Japan, you have your own radioactive waste dump contaminating the country: [link to www.spiegel.de]
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Wow! My first thought is whether or not the real estate professionals in the area would be required to disclose this event to any potential property buyers or not.
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Well, stop worrying about some minor radiation from Japan, you have your own radioactive waste dump contaminating the country: [link to www.spiegel.de]
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Wow! My first thought is whether or not the real estate professionals in the area would be required to disclose this event to any potential property buyers or not.
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Probably not and up until kids get sick years later, the firm that auctioned off the real estate has long been dissolved and nobody is left to sue...
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the EPA is not your friend

[link to www.collapsenet.com]
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Holy caca-molly! What an awesome find...you all are a great researcher!!!

This confirms what has been said here for a week...this along with the possibility of the stuxnet being involved...maybe...and the records of a EPA cover up of large amounts of radiation hitting the country BEFORE the earthquake...and we saw obama announce he was going to Rio when? Did they know something happened before the quake??

Excellent work all!
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HEY GUYS! I READ THIS WEBSITE FROM AN ANONYMOUS STRANGER ON THE INTERNET - IT MUST BE TRUE!
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the EPA is not your friend

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whoa .. bring it !
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Well, stop worrying about some minor radiation from Japan, you have your own radioactive waste dump contaminating the country: [link to www.spiegel.de]
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Wow! My first thought is whether or not the real estate professionals in the area would be required to disclose this event to any potential property buyers or not.
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Probably not and up until kids get sick years later, the firm that auctioned off the real estate has long been dissolved and nobody is left to sue...
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It is the only place where real estate and jobs are still doing great. There is alot of scientific research going on there, which means jobs etc. Not to mention cleanup jobs.
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"Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years and emits alpha particles" IE you cant detect it with a Geiger counter unless theres a shitload of it, in which case you are already fucked.

[link to www.idealist.ws]

The fallout we are receive from Japan is a bunch of microscopic radioactive particles dispersed by the jet stream. Its not concentrated enough to significantly raise radiation readings on a geiger counter, RADNET, or any of the other sites (blackcat/radiationnetwork). You need to to measure it with a mass spectrometer, which nobody is doing except maybe the EPA or some other agency, but they aren't saying shit obviously.

Check UC Berkeleys forum at:

[link to www.nuc.berkeley.edu]

And watch how vague or cryptic they get when discussing any alpha emitting radionuclides. They admitted they don't have access to a mass spectrometer and if they where able to detect it in there samples, it would be only be in large amounts (ie we would already be fucked).

lala

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Been there, done that. They disappeared as soon as people started asking the right questions. Oh and funny thing I noticed when I was reading the first article about the EPA monitors today. The article was dated 3/21/11. Now who here is going to try and say that they honestly believe that NONE of US found that before today?
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Chernobyl was much worse than this so far..nobody made much of a big deal about that.
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If you live anywhere but Japan, you really don't have anything to worry about. With Chernobyl, the greatest health threat was stress and mental illness. OP, your worries are unfounded. Take a look at the chart in the link. We are nowhere near the levels that prove to be detrimental to your physical health.

[link to www.health.harvard.edu]
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This thread has independent readings from various U.S. locations.

Thread: ****** GLP RADIATION REPORTING CENTER ****** (Page 24)

Like many others, I am concerned about the rudimentary equipment being used for testing. Radiation comes in many forms and is measured in numerous ways on multiple scales. It now seems that the ability to gather thorough information is limited to Gov't agencies, universities and research centers. None of which are going to tell the truth.

I live in FL and while I am considerably further away than the West Coast, I am still very concerned. I have twin 2 yr old girls and am worried sick.

I can only guess that the lack of concern is tied to the fact that the typical American has the attention span for a short T.V. commercial. If they don't get sick tomorrow, it is not dangerous. Effin morons. If they had any sense, they would realize tomorrow isn't the problem - it's ten or twenty years from now. I refuse to ignore this just because my neighbors and friends are not dying today. I don't want my children to suffer through cancer as twenty somethings or the agony of miscarriages or birth defects when they try to have kids or Lord knows what. There are potentially hundreds of health complications as a result of radiation poisoning.

God bless and keep everyone safe.
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west coast hell! Here in the midwest there is a slow steady increase in counts over the past week with my counter,between 2 to 3 time the old baseline
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We have numbers climbing higher here in west l.a.:
[link to www.ustream.tv]

As for the EPA site, I have only been able to get a message stating "Levels redorded are thousands of times lower than what would be considered harmful". EXCEPT THAT, they now admit that several of their gauges have been malfunctioning throughout the Japan debacle, so unreliable at best, purposely hiding info at worst.

And then there's RADNET, www.radiationnetwork.com, which has been showing no fluctuations above about 30 cpm, which for some reason looks completely bogus to me. I don't trust this site as much as the one where I can see the counter myself.

The only site that looks legit is the one showing the measurements on screen, and it says the levels are beginning to climb from usually 42-60, to now above 70's at times.

Does anyone else on West Coast have their own counter they could post data from?
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Please do not confuse people by calling the site at www.radiationnetwork.com by the name RADNET, RADNET is the EPA's radiation monitoring network. You do no one any favors by confusing the two. Stop being lazy in your typing and please bother to type out www.radiationnetwork.com rather than confusingly shorthanding it as RADNET.

I know this is GLP but we simply do not need the confusion at a time like this.
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Chernobyl was much worse than this so far..nobody made much of a big deal about that.
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SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHAME!!!!
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I calibrate Gamma Counters for oil drilling. If the background levels go up (M-F) I'll see an increase in background radiation.

So far, it's normal.

But a simulation shows us getting a big dose on Sun/Mon.

I'm in San Jose CA.

We'll see...


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"Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years and emits alpha particles" IE you cant detect it with a Geiger counter unless theres a shitload of it, in which case you are already fucked.

[link to www.idealist.ws]

The fallout we are receive from Japan is a bunch of microscopic radioactive particles dispersed by the jet stream. Its not concentrated enough to significantly raise radiation readings on a geiger counter, RADNET, or any of the other sites (blackcat/radiationnetwork). You need to to measure it with a mass spectrometer, which nobody is doing except maybe the EPA or some other agency, but they aren't saying shit obviously.

Check UC Berkeleys forum at:

[link to www.nuc.berkeley.edu]

And watch how vague or cryptic they get when discussing any alpha emitting radionuclides. They admitted they don't have access to a mass spectrometer and if they where able to detect it in there samples, it would be only be in large amounts (ie we would already be fucked).


lala
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This is quite fascinating. "They" can use sophisticated GC-MS tests to find out if someone likes to smoke a little bud in their spare time when they apply for a job, but "they" can't be bothered to utilize a similarly sensitive test to find out how much deadly plutonium may be floating about in the atmosphere?
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PEOPLE! We have a grave crisis of radiation spreading from the Fuk nuke plant Eastward. Why, exactly, is there no interest in gieger counter readings across the US West Coast on GLP at this time? Where can reliable US West coast gieger counter readings be located on the internet?

Its been a week since the first reported radiation was reported on the East Coast due to the Fuk Nuke Plant. What has happened in the past 7 days with radiation on the US West Coast?
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I posted last week that I had been doing CPM reading for several days now. I said I would post them daily because they last time I did one I got a marked increase from the other 2 times to about 40 CPM. I ask if others who had Geiger counters would do the same and got no responses. But if people are willing to keep a thread alive for public interest I would be willing to do measurements on a daily basis.

I would be nice if we had someone who knew something about radiation to advise us also, as I noticed a lot of cloud cover and winds affect readings. Is there anyone else with a geiger counter or nuclear type person interested. I live in southwest VA. I agree with you about the importance of this.
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This thread has independent readings from various U.S. locations.

Thread: ****** GLP RADIATION REPORTING CENTER ****** (Page 24)

Like many others, I am concerned about the rudimentary equipment being used for testing. Radiation comes in many forms and is measured in numerous ways on multiple scales. It now seems that the ability to gather thorough information is limited to Gov't agencies, universities and research centers. None of which are going to tell the truth.

I live in FL and while I am considerably further away than the West Coast, I am still very concerned. I have twin 2 yr old girls and am worried sick.

I can only guess that the lack of concern is tied to the fact that the typical American has the attention span for a short T.V. commercial. If they don't get sick tomorrow, it is not dangerous. Effin morons. If they had any sense, they would realize tomorrow isn't the problem - it's ten or twenty years from now. I refuse to ignore this just because my neighbors and friends are not dying today. I don't want my children to suffer through cancer as twenty somethings or the agony of miscarriages or birth defects when they try to have kids or Lord knows what. There are potentially hundreds of health complications as a result of radiation poisoning.

God bless and keep everyone safe.
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No one cares but we handful of conscious souls. Everyone else is worried about getting a new iPAD, catching the game, or getting home in time to watch the latest gossip Star Jones has to dish out.

I was thinking about buying one of these to clip on my flag hanging outside (yeah, sign of the times huh?) to monitor the air outside my immediate area. They are relatively cheap, and I say that as a poor person. Of course, the better models have jumped quite a bit in price as of late...
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My fault, here is the link to dosimeters:

[link to www.coleparmer.com]
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Someone at the Ustream site mentioned this one which monitors 6 locations:
[link to www.simplyhydroponic.com]

Anyone know how many days we can receive and absorb radioactive iodine into our thyroids before it accumulates to a harmful level? I have kids, too, and am afraid to let them play out in the yard.
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Fuck iodine, google Plutonium.
 Quoting: Doom+1


Ok, just researched that, and it looks like we can look for the all-clear in only 24,000 more years, so...whew! What a relief. I was beginning to worry that we'd screwed up the planet for good!

So, you see? There's NO reason why the people in charge would hide anything from us at all...pffft...worrying...so silly.

I'm actually organizing and pre-packing stuff I'd want to take during an evacuation. Unconsciously, kind of. Like, I'm "spring cleaning" but it's different this time.
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No thats not true with Iodine only all the other radioactive isotopes. I heard on the MSM (and I don't think they would blantly lie about this fact), is that radioactive Iodine falls out of the air rather quickly. I think it was around 7 days. So taking the KI(potassium Iodide) w/in 24 hrs. of exposure will aid in prevention of damage only to the thyroid gland. Don't take it longer that you think you are exposed because it can be toxic. Im sure if you look on wikipedia or some such you will get a more accurate ahswer.

Ok the MSM did lie see below link. The 1/2 life is 8 days, which means 1/2 of it is gone in 8 days the other 1/2 is still around and decreases by 1/2 every 8 days. So that in theroy it never goes away it only gets cut in half to minimal levels this is true of any drug or chemical we are exposed to.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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PEOPLE! We have a grave crisis of radiation spreading from the Fuk nuke plant Eastward. Why, exactly, is there no interest in gieger counter readings across the US West Coast on GLP at this time? Where can reliable US West coast gieger counter readings be located on the internet?

Its been a week since the first reported radiation was reported on the East Coast due to the Fuk Nuke Plant. What has happened in the past 7 days with radiation on the US West Coast?
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Dude chilax...

We have a sale at Walmart this weekend on NASCAR shirts and hats and I just got paid.

Beer in the cooler...money in the pocket.

Radiation? Dude if there was a problem the government would say so and they say it is all ok so I suggest you twist up a fatty and relax.

In fact I would go lay out at the beach with momma and the kids if I were on the west coast today!

The situation is under control.

peace
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Well, stop worrying about some minor radiation from Japan, you have your own radioactive waste dump contaminating the country: [link to www.spiegel.de]
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Indeed, at least for the U.S.A., take a very good long read of this entire website, [link to www.idealist.ws] and then go to

[link to www.nuclearfiles.org]

and really take a very close look at the 'fallout' maps from the NTS Atomic Bomb tests of the 1950s and tally up your own dosage in your county... and remember what Half-Life really means and indicates... Of course one can go further and attempt to find the radiation burdens from all the post 1959 atomic bomb tests both above ground (like the early 1960's series) and the underground testing.

Really tally up the on the ground (now in the soil) dusting of the fallout from these tests for the county you were born in, even if you were born in the 1980s or 1990s. Remembering what half-life means and how to apply it to your situation.

I was totally stunned by how much of a potential dosage I received pre-natally as well as for the first ten years of my life upto 1963.

So, yes, we have our own radioacive burden in the U.S.A. without the need to be 'importing' anything from Japan's disaster.
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PEOPLE! We have a grave crisis of radiation spreading from the Fuk nuke plant Eastward. Why, exactly, is there no interest in gieger counter readings across the US West Coast on GLP at this time? Where can reliable US West coast gieger counter readings be located on the internet?

Its been a week since the first reported radiation was reported on the East Coast due to the Fuk Nuke Plant. What has happened in the past 7 days with radiation on the US West Coast?
 Quoting: FLUFFY PUPPY


Dude chilax...

We have a sale at Walmart this weekend on NASCAR shirts and hats and I just got paid.

Beer in the cooler...money in the pocket.

Radiation? Dude if there was a problem the government would say so and they say it is all ok so I suggest you twist up a fatty and relax.

In fact I would go lay out at the beach with momma and the kids if I were on the west coast today!

The situation is under control.

peace
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I bet you are the type of person whos still believe muslin terrorists and Osama Bin Laden brought down the Twin Towers and the Viet Nam war was a "GOOD" war am I right? Keep of swilling those beers you won't feel a thing when the nuke plant near you explodes.
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Someone at the Ustream site mentioned this one which monitors 6 locations:
[link to www.simplyhydroponic.com]

Anyone know how many days we can receive and absorb radioactive iodine into our thyroids before it accumulates to a harmful level? I have kids, too, and am afraid to let them play out in the yard.
 Quoting: jellybean224 967614


Fuck iodine, google Plutonium.
 Quoting: Doom+1


Ok, just researched that, and it looks like we can look for the all-clear in only 24,000 more years, so...whew! What a relief. I was beginning to worry that we'd screwed up the planet for good!

So, you see? There's NO reason why the people in charge would hide anything from us at all...pffft...worrying...so silly.

I'm actually organizing and pre-packing stuff I'd want to take during an evacuation. Unconsciously, kind of. Like, I'm "spring cleaning" but it's different this time.
 Quoting: jellybean224 967614


No thats not true with Iodine only all the other radioactive isotopes. I heard on the MSM (and I don't think they would blantly lie about this fact), is that radioactive Iodine falls out of the air rather quickly. I think it was around 7 days. So taking the KI(potassium Iodide) w/in 24 hrs. of exposure will aid in prevention of damage only to the thyroid gland. Don't take it longer that you think you are exposed because it can be toxic. Im sure if you look on wikipedia or some such you will get a more accurate ahswer.

Ok the MSM did lie see below link. The 1/2 life is 8 days, which means 1/2 of it is gone in 8 days the other 1/2 is still around and decreases by 1/2 every 8 days. So that in theroy it never goes away it only gets cut in half to minimal levels this is true of any drug or chemical we are exposed to.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: WOMAN WHO RUNS W/ WOLVES


One really needs to get a handle on the family tree of the daughter products of all radioactive substances. It doesn't just 'disappear' as it decays in its half-life, it changes to something else, its daughter products, which themselves eventually (within hours or billions of years) transmutes to something else. Many do not understand this. Take a good look at the decay daughter product of Uranium 238 or Urainum 235 for instance and see everything that it eventually turns into. Do the same of Cesium, Iodine, etc,.
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radioactive cloud prognosis: [link to db.eurad.uni-koeln.de]
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No, they haven't.

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