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6 Terrifying Ways Crows Are Way Smarter Than You.

 
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Mankind has a long and checkered past with crows and ravens: They have been feared as symbols of death, because they're all black and scary, revered as creators of the world because, well, it was either them or the seagulls, and worshiped as trickster gods, because of their baffling intelligence. Intelligent enough, in fact, for us to start worrying ...


6. Next time you see a group of crows, look closely. Try to remember which one is which, and see if you can tell the difference between them the next time you pass. Odds are good that you can't; they're crows, which makes them all big black birds. On the other hand, every last one of them very likely remembers you as the weird human who kept staring at them. We know this, because researchers in Seattle performed an experiment with some crows around their college campus. They captured seven of the birds, tagged them, then let them go. And they did it all while wearing creepy skin masks, because it was funny:


OK, so the scientists weren't just playing out horror movie fantasies -- they were testing whether the crows could recognize human faces or not. It turns out they can. To a frightening degree: Whenever the scientists walked around campus with the masks on, the crows would "scold" and dive-bomb them... because along with the ability to recognize us as individuals, the researchers also learned that crows can hold a grudge. And pretty soon, it wasn't just the first seven crows reacting. Other birds, ones that hadn't even been captured in the first place, started dive-bombing the scientists as well.

In case you think they were just telling each other "get the guy with the mask," they weren't: The test was repeated with multiple people wearing multiple masks, and without fail, the crows left the masked men who hadn't messed with them alone, but went murder-crazy on the mask that had been worn while messing with them. Quick, in Point Break, which Presidential mask did Swayze wear? No idea? Don't worry, we're pretty sure Johnny Utah didn't know half the time, either. But the crows would have.

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hichcock knew this. that's why he made "the birds"!

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I saw a crow put a huge walnut in the tire path of a car before it approached....it knew where the tire would be. The unassuming driver. Cute little girl.....driving heard a loud "POP" like a .22 or a backfire she immediately looked in her mirrors at wtf just happened. The crow was on his broken nut in an instant. I went to act get the nut myself to show the crows I am one step ahead of them.
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[6. continued]


Pretty soon, every single crow on the campus knew which masks meant trouble, and wanted the guys wearing them dead. When they didn't wear the masks, however, the crows left them alone, because even they can't see through disguises ... yet.


Researchers believe that the ability to recognize humans is an extension of the crows's ability to recognize each other, which helps them to warn one other about potential predators. This also means that if -- oh, let's stop kidding ourselves here -- when they rise up against us, the crows will remember who threw out those tasty bread crumbs and who thought it was funny to spray them with the hose (in all fairness, it was pretty funny, just maybe not "worth having my eyes pecked out" funny).


#5.They Conspire With One Another

So, how did those crows above -- the ones that were never even captured in the first place -- know to harass the masked scientists? The answer is simple: They were told. All that cawing isn't just noise; they're talking to one another, and doing so in a very advanced fashion.
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That’s cool beans man.

I’ve befriended crows before. You feed 1 or 2 and the next day a million show up.

And when I would go to the store or something and a crow would see me it would squawk and get real close as if waiting for me to feed it.

Of course I don’t carry bird feed with me everywhere so they were SOL.
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You can apparently even teach crows to speak, although by all accounts their voices are disturbing as hell.
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I have a couple of crow stories....My son used to work at a place on the edge of town. When he was out in the equipment yard, this group of crows would drop nuts by him so he would crack them for them. I once found a baby crow in my driveway, it had fallen out of a huge pine tree. They are HUGE baby birds by the way. I kept it for a few days until I found an animal rescue to take it, he ended up being fine and was released back into the wild.
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my friend walks the neighborhood and her crows pals walk with her.

i asked how she did it.

she said she started carrying peanuts in the shell with her and so now they wait for her to start her morning walks.

funny to see them walking along the street.
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I am glad that my crows know I am the guy who feeds the birds then.
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Great post!

Other bird species are also far smarter than they have any right to be. It can be kinda terrifying when you grasp their level of cunning.
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[6. continued]


#5.They Conspire With One Another

So, how did those crows above -- the ones that were never even captured in the first place -- know to harass the masked scientists? The answer is simple: They were told. All that cawing isn't just noise; they're talking to one another, and doing so in a very advanced fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296897

[cont.]

And it's not just that they're capable of identifying threats within their visual range and relaying that information to one another: Some of the crows never actually saw the person in the mask, but they knew about him all the same. Even subsequent generations of crow, whose only experience with the "masked scientists" was from stories told 'round the crow campfires at midnight, displayed the exact same antagonistic behavior when encountering the masks.

So, not only do they recognize us as individuals, but they have the means to describe us in detail to one another, even across generations. You know what that means: If you've ever fucked with a crow, even if it was just the one time, decades ago, his children might be out there right now, plotting bloody revenge against you.
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all birds are amazingly clever.

even my pet baby bird does things that i just go "wow" at.

for example, when asked where *boyfriend's name* is he will look all about for him.
he discovered where i kept the peanuts, opened the pack all by himself and ate some.
he discovered that if he jogs the needle on the record player, music plays.
he looked out of the window and started talking to a seagull on the roof.
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and once he kept talking when i went near a window, he wouldnt stay with me and kept going back,finally i discovered another little bird had got trapped upsidedown and i rescued it.he was telling me all about it.
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7. Avoid birthing as a "human", or you won't be able to do all those crowy things.
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Never claimed otherwise.

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well i'm glad people responded to this post, i posted it last night and no one gave a shit. i'm jealous lol.

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brilliant thread.....good to see something other than doom posted here.....on a side note....
I once saw a crow across the street on my neighbors roof. It was dive bombing another bird, a red one. After killing it, it proceeded to roll the corpse of its tiny bird enemy off the roof. It nudged the other bird, and nudged untill the corpse plummeted off the roof entireley. It was kinda gruesome.
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Crows can't get served in a pub.

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AMAZING! hiding
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Great post!

Other bird species are also far smarter than they have any right to be. It can be kinda terrifying when you grasp their level of cunning.
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i have a monk finch that is really intelligent and super empathetic.
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I BOW TO OUR OVERLORDS cool2

I've read somewhere, that they are also able to recognize themselves in the mirror (like monkeys, dolphins, etc.), which also means they have at least some consciousness, concept of oneself, etc.

Generally, I think a lot of animals, at least mammals are smarter, tham we give them credit for, and have consciosness and emotions. It's nearly impossible to scientifically find out, how it feels to be one animal or another, but all more recent research has surprised scientists in a positive way.

For example, we generally think of hen or chicken as proverbially stupid. But even on a large farm, each hen knows exactly her place in the hierarchy (pecking order), which means that they are able to recognize every hen and its position. Not bad for a bird brain, ain't it?

BTW, OP great article, many thanks. BIOLOGY ROCKS applause
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well i'm glad people responded to this post, i posted it last night and no one gave a shit. i'm jealous lol.

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I was told they are also 'messenger' birds. When they show up and 'crow' in your yard it is an omen, warning or message of some sort??
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[link to www.cracked.com]


Mankind has a long and checkered past with crows and ravens: They have been feared as symbols of death, because they're all black and scary, revered as creators of the world because, well, it was either them or the seagulls, and worshiped as trickster gods, because of their baffling intelligence. Intelligent enough, in fact, for us to start worrying ...


6. Next time you see a group of crows, look closely. Try to remember which one is which, and see if you can tell the difference between them the next time you pass. Odds are good that you can't; they're crows, which makes them all big black birds. On the other hand, every last one of them very likely remembers you as the weird human who kept staring at them. We know this, because researchers in Seattle performed an experiment with some crows around their college campus. They captured seven of the birds, tagged them, then let them go. And they did it all while wearing creepy skin masks, because it was funny:


OK, so the scientists weren't just playing out horror movie fantasies -- they were testing whether the crows could recognize human faces or not. It turns out they can. To a frightening degree: Whenever the scientists walked around campus with the masks on, the crows would "scold" and dive-bomb them... because along with the ability to recognize us as individuals, the researchers also learned that crows can hold a grudge. And pretty soon, it wasn't just the first seven crows reacting. Other birds, ones that hadn't even been captured in the first place, started dive-bombing the scientists as well.

In case you think they were just telling each other "get the guy with the mask," they weren't: The test was repeated with multiple people wearing multiple masks, and without fail, the crows left the masked men who hadn't messed with them alone, but went murder-crazy on the mask that had been worn while messing with them. Quick, in Point Break, which Presidential mask did Swayze wear? No idea? Don't worry, we're pretty sure Johnny Utah didn't know half the time, either. But the crows would have.

[the other 5 @ link]

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 Quoting: amazing overlords 1296897



omfg !! lol trinity soz but

more ways they are more inteligent than most glper,s !!!
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I BOW TO OUR OVERLORDS cool2

I've read somewhere, that they are also able to recognize themselves in the mirror (like monkeys, dolphins, etc.), which also means they have at least some consciousness, concept of oneself, etc.

Generally, I think a lot of animals, at least mammals are smarter, tham we give them credit for, and have consciosness and emotions. It's nearly impossible to scientifically find out, how it feels to be one animal or another, but all more recent research has surprised scientists in a positive way.

For example, we generally think of hen or chicken as proverbially stupid. But even on a large farm, each hen knows exactly her place in the hierarchy (pecking order), which means that they are able to recognize every hen and its position. Not bad for a bird brain, ain't it?

BTW, OP great article, many thanks. BIOLOGY ROCKS applause
 Quoting: TheBlackVegetable


Elephants have also been shown to recognise themselves in mirrors, and I think some cats do as well.

Birds being intelligent makes sense because of the fact they have to be able to control themselves in flight, which isn't easy.
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[link to www.cracked.com]


Mankind has a long and checkered past with crows and ravens: They have been feared as symbols of death, because they're all black and scary, revered as creators of the world because, well, it was either them or the seagulls, and worshiped as trickster gods, because of their baffling intelligence. Intelligent enough, in fact, for us to start worrying ...


6. Next time you see a group of crows, look closely. Try to remember which one is which, and see if you can tell the difference between them the next time you pass. Odds are good that you can't; they're crows, which makes them all big black birds. On the other hand, every last one of them very likely remembers you as the weird human who kept staring at them. We know this, because researchers in Seattle performed an experiment with some crows around their college campus. They captured seven of the birds, tagged them, then let them go. And they did it all while wearing creepy skin masks, because it was funny:


OK, so the scientists weren't just playing out horror movie fantasies -- they were testing whether the crows could recognize human faces or not. It turns out they can. To a frightening degree: Whenever the scientists walked around campus with the masks on, the crows would "scold" and dive-bomb them... because along with the ability to recognize us as individuals, the researchers also learned that crows can hold a grudge. And pretty soon, it wasn't just the first seven crows reacting. Other birds, ones that hadn't even been captured in the first place, started dive-bombing the scientists as well.

In case you think they were just telling each other "get the guy with the mask," they weren't: The test was repeated with multiple people wearing multiple masks, and without fail, the crows left the masked men who hadn't messed with them alone, but went murder-crazy on the mask that had been worn while messing with them. Quick, in Point Break, which Presidential mask did Swayze wear? No idea? Don't worry, we're pretty sure Johnny Utah didn't know half the time, either. But the crows would have.

[the other 5 @ link]

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Bullshit, I had a neighbor that used to pay us to shoot crows out of her backyard. Those dumbass birds always came back, not to retaliate, but to just sit there mindlessly on the wire while we took them out...stupid crows.
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I BOW TO OUR OVERLORDS cool2

I've read somewhere, that they are also able to recognize themselves in the mirror (like monkeys, dolphins, etc.), which also means they have at least some consciousness, concept of oneself, etc.

Generally, I think a lot of animals, at least mammals are smarter, tham we give them credit for, and have consciosness and emotions. It's nearly impossible to scientifically find out, how it feels to be one animal or another, but all more recent research has surprised scientists in a positive way.

For example, we generally think of hen or chicken as proverbially stupid. But even on a large farm, each hen knows exactly her place in the hierarchy (pecking order), which means that they are able to recognize every hen and its position. Not bad for a bird brain, ain't it?

BTW, OP great article, many thanks. BIOLOGY ROCKS applause
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