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McMeevin User ID: 1315718 Australia 03/26/2011 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! Thread: Yaldabaoth It has to start somewhere It has to start sometime What better place than here What better time than now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1102470 United States 03/26/2011 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! What became later termed as Lucifer, Satan, or the Devil was representative of the Ego, which rivals The Lord, the representative of the self. The true self is the epicenter of a person’s entire being. It is the total sum of everything that we are. The false-ego on the other hand, is the idea and concept we create about ourselves in the course of our lives, which typically excludes any qualities we don’t want to accept about ourselves. However, Humanity has been endowed with the freedom to choose either to obey the true self, or to give in to the temptation of the vanity and materialism of the false-ego. |
Olgoth666 User ID: 1266851 United States 03/26/2011 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The world is divided into opposites. The real god is beyond and before opposites. Nameless and faceless, and indescribable . Through gematria one finds that lucifer is a lesser or more earthly designation to the title. Everything is a progression from dense to etherial , being to non-being, and religious texts were written for those in the know. Thus reading the bible in the dark ages (year1000), was considered heresy, punishable by death. Knowledge is power. |
Gogh User ID: 1265537 Italy 03/26/2011 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The truth has been cloaked in myth to make it easier for the public to understand. I'm ready for the SCIENCE of it all!!!! Quoting: ILLUMINEDvery simple... A evil criminal soul discovered a time machine and traveled back in time and misled the people with lies... and he was cursed... and Adam traveled true water and blood to the current times to stop the devil to commit his crime... ref. CERN. 1Jn 5:6 This is He that came by water and blood, even Yahushua the Messiah; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. Elohim has begotten the Son by water and blood "They took what they wanted ... and they wanted the world!" "The thunder of their plundering shook the earth, the seas, the sky!" Blackbeard The Pirate |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1267719 United States 03/26/2011 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The truth has been cloaked in myth to make it easier for the public to understand. I'm ready for the SCIENCE of it all!!!! Quoting: ILLUMINEDIt is just old language converted to new titles in a new language. |
ILLUMINED (OP) User ID: 1311756 United States 03/27/2011 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! What became later termed as Lucifer, Satan, or the Devil Quoting: Phaliditywas representative of the Ego, which rivals The Lord, the representative of the self. The true self is the epicenter of a person’s entire being. It is the total sum of everything that we are. The false-ego on the other hand, is the idea and concept we create about ourselves in the course of our lives, which typically excludes any qualities we don’t want to accept about ourselves. However, Humanity has been endowed with the freedom to choose either to obey the true self, or to give in to the temptation of the vanity and materialism of the false-ego. and the winner goes to...... thank you for your insight. this is more or less what i have come to learn, just needed to know that there are some sane and knowledgeable people out there. Many can learn from this. “Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” -einstein |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1315846 United States 03/27/2011 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! God, according to the bible killed BILLIONS of people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276298LUCIFER, his holy, killed NONE....... EVER>>>>>>> God Created BILLIONS of people. Lucifer created NONE. God Gives and he Takes away! |
Spawn User ID: 1056931 United States 03/27/2011 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! OP, just found this today.... this series is pretty good, but he does talk about Lucifer and the instruments that were built into him. ...and asking for a scientific explanation in a spiritual matter is like saying I'm going to make my oil last longer in my engine by adding water.... that dog don't hunt. part 2 [link to www.youtube.com] part 3 [link to www.youtube.com] The rest in the series are good as well, but since you were asking about this specific point I thought these were a good start... Last Edited by Spawn on 03/27/2011 12:10 AM ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Greg_B. User ID: 1259308 United States 03/27/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! Polarity - it's all polarity. The Material world is the creation of Satan, or the expression of pure negativity. I'm not too fond of Signatures. Why would I want to end every post the same way? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1187902 Australia 03/27/2011 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The truth has been cloaked in myth to make it easier for the public to understand. I'm ready for the SCIENCE of it all!!!! Quoting: ILLUMINEDMajor defining characterisics: Lucifer in heaven-before his rebellion was-a high and exalted angel. Powerfull intellect and pride was Lucifers downfall. "Origin of feedom and evil" [link to groups.yahoo.com.anthroposophy_tomorrow] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
McMeevin User ID: 1315895 Australia 03/27/2011 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The truth has been cloaked in myth to make it easier for the public to understand. I'm ready for the SCIENCE of it all!!!! Quoting: ILLUMINEDWithout a strong sense of your spiritual self, it is easy to get caught up with “end of the world” thinking and emoting, or caught up with the various titillating notions about secret space colonies, ET’s, secret powers, ancient mysteries, or the various shadow powers. This serves little to no useful purpose except to help assure you pass on from your human life mostly as an unaware self, caught in endless “entertainments” of the matrix world. Please stop. Once you are solidly centered and oriented, it is possible to observe what is afoot in the old world and yet not get caught up in it anymore. It has to start somewhere It has to start sometime What better place than here What better time than now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1102470 United States 03/27/2011 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! What became later termed as Lucifer, Satan, or the Devil Quoting: Phaliditywas representative of the Ego, which rivals The Lord, the representative of the self. The true self is the epicenter of a person’s entire being. It is the total sum of everything that we are. The false-ego on the other hand, is the idea and concept we create about ourselves in the course of our lives, which typically excludes any qualities we don’t want to accept about ourselves. However, Humanity has been endowed with the freedom to choose either to obey the true self, or to give in to the temptation of the vanity and materialism of the false-ego. and the winner goes to...... thank you for your insight. this is more or less what i have come to learn, just needed to know that there are some sane and knowledgeable people out there. Many can learn from this. It is from a film entitled Kymatica by Ben Stewart. |
ILLUMINED (OP) User ID: 1311756 United States 03/27/2011 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! What became later termed as Lucifer, Satan, or the Devil Quoting: Phaliditywas representative of the Ego, which rivals The Lord, the representative of the self. The true self is the epicenter of a person’s entire being. It is the total sum of everything that we are. The false-ego on the other hand, is the idea and concept we create about ourselves in the course of our lives, which typically excludes any qualities we don’t want to accept about ourselves. However, Humanity has been endowed with the freedom to choose either to obey the true self, or to give in to the temptation of the vanity and materialism of the false-ego. and the winner goes to...... thank you for your insight. this is more or less what i have come to learn, just needed to know that there are some sane and knowledgeable people out there. Many can learn from this. It is from a film entitled Kymatica by Ben Stewart. Nice, just downloaded it from youtube. Thanks! “Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” -einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1102470 United States 03/27/2011 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! What became later termed as Lucifer, Satan, or the Devil Quoting: Phaliditywas representative of the Ego, which rivals The Lord, the representative of the self. The true self is the epicenter of a person’s entire being. It is the total sum of everything that we are. The false-ego on the other hand, is the idea and concept we create about ourselves in the course of our lives, which typically excludes any qualities we don’t want to accept about ourselves. However, Humanity has been endowed with the freedom to choose either to obey the true self, or to give in to the temptation of the vanity and materialism of the false-ego. and the winner goes to...... thank you for your insight. this is more or less what i have come to learn, just needed to know that there are some sane and knowledgeable people out there. Many can learn from this. It is from a film entitled Kymatica by Ben Stewart. Nice, just downloaded it from youtube. Thanks! Enjoy. It's a goodie. |
ILLUMINED (OP) User ID: 1311756 United States 03/27/2011 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The truth has been cloaked in myth to make it easier for the public to understand. I'm ready for the SCIENCE of it all!!!! Quoting: ILLUMINEDWithout a strong sense of your spiritual self, it is easy to get caught up with “end of the world” thinking and emoting, or caught up with the various titillating notions about secret space colonies, ET’s, secret powers, ancient mysteries, or the various shadow powers. This serves little to no useful purpose except to help assure you pass on from your human life mostly as an unaware self, caught in endless “entertainments” of the matrix world. Please stop. Once you are solidly centered and oriented, it is possible to observe what is afoot in the old world and yet not get caught up in it anymore. Why do you have an account to a website dedicated to ET's, Secret powers, ancient mysteries and so on? How do you not get "caught up in it"? Do you practice what you preach? i can tell you that i don't, as much as i wish i could. Materialism is just sometimes fun... “Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” -einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1187902 Australia 03/27/2011 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The truth has been cloaked in myth to make it easier for the public to understand. I'm ready for the SCIENCE of it all!!!! Quoting: ILLUMINEDMajor defining characterisics: Lucifer in heaven-before his rebellion was-a high and exalted angel. Powerfull intellect and pride was Lucifers downfall. "Origin of freedom and evil" [link to groups.yahoo.com.anthroposophy_tomorrow] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Correction.. [link to anthroposophy_tomorrow.message] 46977 ....................................................... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1187902 Australia 03/27/2011 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The truth has been cloaked in myth to make it easier for the public to understand. I'm ready for the SCIENCE of it all!!!! Quoting: ILLUMINEDMajor defining characterisics: Lucifer in heaven-before his rebellion was-a high and exalted angel. Powerfull intellect and pride was Lucifers downfall. "Origin of freedom and evil" [link to groups.yahoo.com.anthroposophy_tomorrow] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Correction.. [link to www.anthroposophy_tomorrow.message] 46977 ....................................................... |
Ea User ID: 1287681 United States 04/11/2011 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The truth has been cloaked in myth to make it easier for the public to understand. I'm ready for the SCIENCE of it all!!!! Quoting: ILLUMINEDWhere to start lets see... The first thing I guess you would have to understand is that everything is a vibration of energy, Yourself included are just vibrating in a certain way that bends light in a unique way which produces the image of you. Molecules or proteins whichever way you wish to look at them is folded into different structures and this structure determines its function so understand first it is about Geometrical shapes even how the body functions and looks. Really it is about the bending of light geometry bends light. Next understand it is also about cycles. The earth is closer to the sun and cycles it in 360 days or a year. Bodies or rather I should say geometrical shapes degrades according to cycles. If from the point of view here from the Earth a planet existed that took 360 earth years to revolve around our sun the average cycle time for the degrating of the geometrical shapes would still be about 70 cycles but that would be far greater time of life from our point of view. So see geometry responds to cycles not time itself cycles determine how time is percieved. Now you need to understand the nature of light. First let me clear this up what humans see as Dark matter and Dark energy in reality there is no darkness at all. It is actually all light waves at once and can not be percieved from any level. We know this because you can actually go into these so called dark places and bring vibrations out and then it becomes visible because you defined it and limited the vibrations within it. The very nature of light is information and interaction on atomic levels. Light must be bent to be percieved in anyway. The atmosphere around the earth bends light so it is seen and percieved and that which is not bent by your atmossphere can not be percieved although it is still interacting in every way. Now to Lucifer what you really wanted to know about. You are really a vibration and are nameless and rather known by your vibrational field which is unique to you like a figerprint on a human. The first two vibrational conscious entities birthed by the universe itself which came into existence through the implosion of what we term Prime Creator and are extensions of the all, God, prime creator whatever you term it was Ea and Ra. You can actualy say these words with the intent of holding them and can feel the vibration within them. You could say that prime creator split into two beings and endowed them with the ability to do the same. Ea extended himself into Enki who then extended himself into lucifer and since this was done Ra extended into Enlil who extended into Lucifage or vise versa really does not matter balance is always achieved. Now what I mean by extend is defined themselves even more or limited their vibrational energy into more singular form. This extension process causes the bending of light to be more intensive creating a more dense and defined self. There is a lot more to this story and I can tell it but as I have written so much already I would like to know that your intersted in hearing it before I continue or anybody just say your interested and I will write some more in the morning. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12042051 United States 07/10/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! The truth has been cloaked in myth to make it easier for the public to understand. I'm ready for the SCIENCE of it all!!!! Quoting: ILLUMINEDMajor defining characterisics: Lucifer in heaven-before his rebellion was-a high and exalted angel. Powerfull intellect and pride was Lucifers downfall. "Origin of feedom and evil" [link to groups.yahoo.com.anthroposophy_tomorrow] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ No man hath come to earth that hasn't come from heaven. What does that say about you? |
Trbl Ivan User ID: 18258222 United States 07/10/2012 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can a rational person please explain the story of Lucifer in a SCIENTIFIC/metaphysical/astrological sense? kthxbye! Why do you want to know? You did everything perfect for eternity...all existence was in ave when they saw you Lucifer...the one next to GOD....Your GOD made you free and perfect..you loved your creator...What is this?!?!?!? God reveals His Son!?!?! But ..But you as Lucifer at the top of his creation..you know it ..you know that "this son" is nothing better than you in substance.....but now he placed in between you Lucifer and your creator.... your anger...your pain ...your shame makes you blind...your blindness brings darkness in your sight...you are no more part of LIGHT....you become outcast....some angels follow you..because they understand and support your reasons..... So..you dwell in outer darkness ...away from your creator away from light...but free and Lord of your destiny..... What is this.....glimmer of light in a middle of your domain... You see creation of universe...and on beautiful blue planet you see Lord creating something out of mud/atoms/matter....you see this vessel become alive and eternal..just like you ....and your anger at your creator and his creation "MAN" grows even more because you realize your no more Lucifer...but you become a simple tool ...in creating perfect friend of GOD....a man..with all the legalities covered by perfect lamb sacrifice. Last Edited by Im Ruzzki on 07/10/2012 06:55 PM You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. Sherman |