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Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?

 
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Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
In all seriousness. I'm sorting thru my food/supplies and going ok, this looks good and then I think...

Shit. It doesn't matter in a week, a month, a year. Even if I have enough supplies for 10 years, at one point, I'll run out and have to go shopping. And, I131 aside, since it has a short half-life, the others don't. Cesium will be in the water/soil til I die. The other junk will still be floating around, assuming we're not totally wiped out, while my great-great-great grandchildren will be walking the Earth. At some point, we'll ALL be eating/drinking contaminated food, right? Even if we grow our own stuff, unless we dig down every year, several feet, AND keep things all indoors/covered and transport them inside without ever exposing them to the outside air, they'll be contaminated.

I know, I know, I'm an idiot. But still, this makes sense right? We can't avoid it forever, can we?
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
cause in the end, you will fight for life, not knowing if it's for another minute or another day.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
Save one bullet for yourself

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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
We actually purchased a ton of top soil 21 tons delivered by truck and 400 3 yard bags.They will sit in the barn until the reactors are under control.Then we will plow off the top soil of our garden and replace the soil.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
always better to be prepared . . just in case

"case in point " check this out
[link to www.johnandpete.com]
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
I honestly don't think we need to be alarmed in North America.
If the rad. gets us, the whole earth is doomed.
I really don't want to live a Mad Max scenario anyway.
I'll take my chances with the great beyond. JMO
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
Save one bullet for yourself

hf
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Fuck that, I'll go down fighting. I'm not against suicide but I won't let it get me to that point!
We actually purchased a ton of top soil 21 tons delivered by truck and 400 3 yard bags.They will sit in the barn until the reactors are under control.Then we will plow off the top soil of our garden and replace the soil.
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Now that is a good plan.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
We actually purchased a ton of top soil 21 tons delivered by truck and 400 3 yard bags.They will sit in the barn until the reactors are under control.Then we will plow off the top soil of our garden and replace the soil.
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that's a really smart move.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
Even if we grow our own stuff, unless we dig down every year, several feet, AND keep things all indoors/covered and transport them inside without ever exposing them to the outside air, they'll be contaminated.
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get underground.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
There is no reason to prepare for fallout.

Peace is the only option. Hope for peace. Hope for true change.

Ironically...I don't believe post-fallout survivalism to be true living.

Just trying to perpetuate a ghost of a life that once was.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
Of all the contingency plans I've made, they do not include nuclear fallout. I had a gal call me the other day, practically in tears because she couldn't find KI and was pregnant.

She asked me what my plan was. I told her I was right with God and ready to go at a moment's notice. Other than that, I didn't have an emergency preparation plan for nuclear radiation.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
Even if we grow our own stuff, unless we dig down every year, several feet, AND keep things all indoors/covered and transport them inside without ever exposing them to the outside air, they'll be contaminated.
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get underground.
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But what if this isn't an option? I have a basement, but it's exposed to the elements (the walls were underground at one point but the previous homeowners dug out the yard to level it out and now most of the basement is above ground level) with shitty windows and I don't have the money to replace them right now. Even if I put plastic sheeting on them and taped them up, the wooden sills are flimsy at best, no real shield from the elements (and yes I have a lot of bugs down there come fall/winter, it's gross and I have a large stash of various remedies around the house for them).
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
It sounds like you people are just planning on existing.
Existing and living aren't the same thing.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
It's looking pretty bleak op. I can think of better ways to
die than by radiation poisoning.
I'd rather die on my feet than "live" on my knees.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
Even if we grow our own stuff, unless we dig down every year, several feet, AND keep things all indoors/covered and transport them inside without ever exposing them to the outside air, they'll be contaminated.
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get underground.
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Go and sit in your closet for the next three days. Eat in there, sleep in there, poop in there, pee in there, everything. No washing. You can't waste the water. And don't turn on the light, either. Because you won't have any electricity when it really happens.

Just stay in there and don't come out for three days.

Then imagine doing that for a year or two. Or more.

Me, I think I'll save that bullet for myself.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
We actually purchased a ton of top soil 21 tons delivered by truck and 400 3 yard bags.They will sit in the barn until the reactors are under control.Then we will plow off the top soil of our garden and replace the soil.
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I just got a yard of mushroom compost myself. I stored the extra inside my shed.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
Even if we grow our own stuff, unless we dig down every year, several feet, AND keep things all indoors/covered and transport them inside without ever exposing them to the outside air, they'll be contaminated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1308232


get underground.
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But what if this isn't an option? I have a basement, but it's exposed to the elements (the walls were underground at one point but the previous homeowners dug out the yard to level it out and now most of the basement is above ground level) with shitty windows and I don't have the money to replace them right now. Even if I put plastic sheeting on them and taped them up, the wooden sills are flimsy at best, no real shield from the elements (and yes I have a lot of bugs down there come fall/winter, it's gross and I have a large stash of various remedies around the house for them).
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Just fill sandbags and put them in front of your basement windows. Remember its about density. The more mass you have between you and the radiation the better.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
It sounds like you people are just planning on existing.
Existing and living aren't the same thing.
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Now this makes me sad, because that IS what will happen, right? Things will be a shell of what we had 3 weeks ago, now. 3 weeks ago, this stuff wasn't even on our radars, and things were good. Now we're all planning to die from radiation.

Which really, my only peace I can make with that, I'm going to die of cancer someday. My Grandmother had the gene, she died of cancer. My Mom has the gene, she's currently in the last round of treatment for breast cancer. Odds are, I have the gene, and I'm not gonna live to see 80. Even if cancer doesn't get me, the heart disease running rampant in my genetic pool will.

I just don't want to see my son suffer any of this crap. That's the part that gets me.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
People who prep to stay put in their homes and land are fucking idiots.

The best prep is a passport, a lot of cash, and healthy legs.

Movement AWAY from the situation is the best plan, not staying put in a chaotic environment. Listen, it doesn't matter how many guns you have, how much food, etc...if the gov't wants your shit, they will take it..don't be so fucking naive, you stupid "preppers".

Have an offshore bank account, a passport, some cash, and the ability to escape danger...that's the ONLY WAY to make it through a post-appoc. world.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
Of all the contingency plans I've made, they do not include nuclear fallout. I had a gal call me the other day, practically in tears because she couldn't find KI and was pregnant.

She asked me what my plan was. I told her I was right with God and ready to go at a moment's notice. Other than that, I didn't have an emergency preparation plan for nuclear radiation.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
In all seriousness. I'm sorting thru my food/supplies and going ok, this looks good and then I think...

Shit. It doesn't matter in a week, a month, a year. Even if I have enough supplies for 10 years, at one point, I'll run out and have to go shopping. And, I131 aside, since it has a short half-life, the others don't. Cesium will be in the water/soil til I die. The other junk will still be floating around, assuming we're not totally wiped out, while my great-great-great grandchildren will be walking the Earth. At some point, we'll ALL be eating/drinking contaminated food, right? Even if we grow our own stuff, unless we dig down every year, several feet, AND keep things all indoors/covered and transport them inside without ever exposing them to the outside air, they'll be contaminated.

I know, I know, I'm an idiot. But still, this makes sense right? We can't avoid it forever, can we?
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The best reason to prep is so when TSHTF you'll be able to sit in your window eating a sandwich and watching all the starving libtards crawl by on their way to the FEMA camp.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
People who prep to stay put in their homes and land are fucking idiots.

The best prep is a passport, a lot of cash, and healthy legs.

Movement AWAY from the situation is the best plan, not staying put in a chaotic environment. Listen, it doesn't matter how many guns you have, how much food, etc...if the gov't wants your shit, they will take it..don't be so fucking naive, you stupid "preppers".

Have an offshore bank account, a passport, some cash, and the ability to escape danger...that's the ONLY WAY to make it through a post-appoc. world.
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But this is circling the globe. In a month, every country on earth will be irradiated. What's the point of running then? Wouldn't you want the comfort of your own bed to live out your days with your loved ones beside you?
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
get underground.
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No more sunsets? No more starry nights? Warm summer breezes?
Never to see a thunderstorm rolling in across the lake?

Thanks but I'll accept my fate here on the surface.
I'd rather die on my feet than "live" on my knees.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
It sounds like you people are just planning on existing.
Existing and living aren't the same thing.
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We are planning not just to survive but to thrive.Prepping is not about any one disaster,never has been.It is about planning your life so any one disaster does not wreck it.If you plan to survive you can,but plan to thrive and your life as a whole will be better.

I do not care what people think about prepping.There are those that say it is a waste of money.We waste 0 money.We store what we eat and rotate everything.We shop sales.Even the mundane stuff like soap.We have been busy learning new skills.

There will always be some event that sparks fear into the hearts of men.We are prepared as best we can be.For us there is nothing to be afraid of.The ones who really live in constant fear or denial are the ones who refuse to take personal responsibility for there own well being.If you can show me a man who is self sufficient,I can show you a man who lives life with out fear.

We are close.The only real thing we lack is 100% energy independence,and we are working on it.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
In all seriousness. I'm sorting thru my food/supplies and going ok, this looks good and then I think...

Shit. It doesn't matter in a week, a month, a year. Even if I have enough supplies for 10 years, at one point, I'll run out and have to go shopping. And, I131 aside, since it has a short half-life, the others don't. Cesium will be in the water/soil til I die. The other junk will still be floating around, assuming we're not totally wiped out, while my great-great-great grandchildren will be walking the Earth. At some point, we'll ALL be eating/drinking contaminated food, right? Even if we grow our own stuff, unless we dig down every year, several feet, AND keep things all indoors/covered and transport them inside without ever exposing them to the outside air, they'll be contaminated.

I know, I know, I'm an idiot. But still, this makes sense right? We can't avoid it forever, can we?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1308232


The best reason to prep is so when TSHTF you'll be able to sit in your window eating a sandwich and watching all the starving libtards crawl by on their way to the FEMA camp.
lolsign
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They aren't going to even bother opening the FEMA camps for this. There's no point.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
People who prep to stay put in their homes and land are fucking idiots.

The best prep is a passport, a lot of cash, and healthy legs.

Movement AWAY from the situation is the best plan, not staying put in a chaotic environment. Listen, it doesn't matter how many guns you have, how much food, etc...if the gov't wants your shit, they will take it..don't be so fucking naive, you stupid "preppers".

Have an offshore bank account, a passport, some cash, and the ability to escape danger...that's the ONLY WAY to make it through a post-appoc. world.
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But this is circling the globe. In a month, every country on earth will be irradiated. What's the point of running then? Wouldn't you want the comfort of your own bed to live out your days with your loved ones beside you?
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Being mobile is very important no doubt. You cant travel by plane with more than 10k anyway. Get on a plane with gold and you will likely be thrown in a jail cell. If you have a big boat then you have it made.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
always better to be prepared . . just in case

"case in point " check this out
[link to www.johnandpete.com]
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Where was the warning not to open your link unless you want to be scarred for life?
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
always better to be prepared . . just in case

"case in point " check this out
[link to www.johnandpete.com]
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Where was the warning not to open your link unless you want to be scarred for life?
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DO NOT OPEN THAT LINK.I agree with the above poster.You will be scared for life!
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The best prep is a passport, a lot of cash, and healthy legs.
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That's nice for the wealthy.
The rest of us "prepping idiots" and families don't have much
of a fucking choice.
I'd rather die on my feet than "live" on my knees.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
We actually purchased a ton of top soil 21 tons delivered by truck and 400 3 yard bags.They will sit in the barn until the reactors are under control.Then we will plow off the top soil of our garden and replace the soil.
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Good luck with that - really.
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I've got some preps done, but...what's the true point of prepping?
In all seriousness. I'm sorting thru my food/supplies and going ok, this looks good and then I think...

Shit. It doesn't matter in a week, a month, a year. Even if I have enough supplies for 10 years, at one point, I'll run out and have to go shopping. And, I131 aside, since it has a short half-life, the others don't. Cesium will be in the water/soil til I die. The other junk will still be floating around, assuming we're not totally wiped out, while my great-great-great grandchildren will be walking the Earth. At some point, we'll ALL be eating/drinking contaminated food, right? Even if we grow our own stuff, unless we dig down every year, several feet, AND keep things all indoors/covered and transport them inside without ever exposing them to the outside air, they'll be contaminated.

I know, I know, I'm an idiot. But still, this makes sense right? We can't avoid it forever, can we?
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There doesn't appear to be any flaws in your argument.

While the radiation probably won't kill everyone, it's sure going to cause a lot of health problems added on top of all the health problems that have already stretched us.

Let's say it merely increased morbidity 10%. That's a hell of a lot. Especially down the road as cancers start popping up faster and faster.

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