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BREAKING!! Fukushima plant evacuated: RADIATION 10 MILLION TIMES NORMAL LEVEL

 
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Well you just a got a few zeros wrong on this post, it's 10,000 times which is still plenty and nothing to sneeze at.
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If it hasn't been mentioned yet, MSNBC has just stated that the 10 millionx radiation was in error. It is now 100,000x, so everything is ok now (sort of).
 Quoting: J.H.F.C. 889802


lets wait until tommorow...10.000.000 is not too far from 100.000 under those conditions...
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Well you just a got a few zeros wrong on this post, it's 10,000 times which is still plenty and nothing to sneeze at.
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... and you base this on what information? If you have access to a more reliable source of information, please share.
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dont get angry ...it seems that japanize in rusia will update METRO 2033hiding
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Fukushima Plutonium Most Toxic Poison known to science! How many deaths? 50 deaths per year x 600000 years = 30,000,000 deaths! Get it yet?!
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Retweeted by 12 people
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Each Fukushima spent fuel pool holds about 100 metric tons, he says, while each US pool holds from 500-700 metric tons. A single pool fire would release catastrophic amounts of radioactivity, rendering 17-22,000 square miles of area uninhabitable. That’s about the size of New Hampshire and Vermont – from one pool fire.

[link to theintelhub.com]
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Whatever happened to all those quarantine zones where they were stuff all the people who were testing positive for radiation? I haven't heard a word about it. I believe there are masses of people sick and dying from radiation and it's being covered up. Though even with a lethal dose of radiation it can take days or weeks to show up and a month to really kill a person.
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[link to www.examiner.com]

Nuclear whistleblowers: Stop lying about Fukushima

March 27th, 2011 10:41 am ET
Deborah Dupre

Urging the public to recognize the massive government cover-up of Japan's Fukushima nuclear catastrophe, including the seriously damaged Reactor #3 with the deadly plutonium mix fuel, nuclear whistleblower organizations Beyond Nuclear and Friends of the Earth warned this week that the human toll from Japan's Fukushima nuclear event could be comparable to or potentially greater than that of Chernobyl. Independent nuclear specialists are warning that long-term risk of radiation due to internal exposure will be worse due to present lies about and the cover-up of the catastrophe, being used to protect the nuclear energy industry.
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Exclusive: Fukushima babies, pregnant women nuclear fallout rescue underway

Babies and pregnant women are being rescued from the Fukushima Nuclear power plant fallout area despite Japanese government telling everyone within the 20-mile radius danger zone of the leaking plants to remain indoors where people are being radiated. A grassroots group began the high-risk rescue mission Monday.

The first eight of approximately 1000 women and babies to be rescued within the 20 miles radius left the area Monday with help by Connected Light according to the group's co-founder, Yumi Kikuchi who contacted Dupré for help late Tuesday night.

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Just google Onagawa reactor
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There is another nuclaer ractor in Japan emitting high levels of radiation - google Onagaw reactor.
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Onagawa
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come on folks!

It's only a headline!

Don't fear the unknown!
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The unknown is normally a lot worse then what you think you know.
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#Fukushima I Nuke Plant: TEPCO Is Testing for Plutonium (Press Conference)

It started around 4:40PM JST, March 27, 2011. I tuned in just when they were finishing reporting on plutonium testing. They said they have asked an outside company (missed the name) to do the soil analysis for plutonium, and it takes about one week for the result. The soil sample was taken on March 21 and 22, which TEPCO didn't bother to tell anyone.

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dragosr‎ RT @Reuters: FLASH: Explosion heard at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi No.2 reactor: Jiji News Agency
Twitter - 4 minutes ago
 Quoting: oldboldpilot


Another hydrogen explosion I presume. How could anyone be surprised, given the ongoing hydrolysis inside the containments in the presence of a blazing hot melting reactor core?
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OP your twitter says that the very high reading of radiation was wrong....

YOU FAIL FAIL FAIL
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Nah this is the real conspiracy right here. Over 15,000 news articles were written on this within 2 hours. Follow the dots my friend.
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dragosr‎ RT @Reuters: FLASH: Explosion heard at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi No.2 reactor: Jiji News Agency
Twitter - 4 minutes ago
 Quoting: oldboldpilot


Another hydrogen explosion I presume. How could anyone be surprised, given the ongoing hydrolysis inside the containments in the presence of a blazing hot melting reactor core?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301223


I am not sure of that story...I need to find confirmation. Some people are posting old news on Twitter...so one has to be careful before spreading it...

I'd rather hold off until I can find that there is confirmation from other sources. Enough bad news to go around, no need to cause more panic ...yet

although quite a few experts have said the possibility of an explosion exists, and could be growing :(

Last Edited by oldboldpilot on 03/27/2011 04:55 PM
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New Aerial Video of Fukushima

Smokin!


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dragosr‎ RT @Reuters: FLASH: Explosion heard at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi No.2 reactor: Jiji News Agency
Twitter - 4 minutes ago
 Quoting: oldboldpilot


Another hydrogen explosion I presume. How could anyone be surprised, given the ongoing hydrolysis inside the containments in the presence of a blazing hot melting reactor core?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301223


I am not sure of that story...I need to find confirmation. Some people are posting old news on Twitter...so one has to be careful before spreading it...

I'd rather hold off until I can find that there is confirmation from other sources. Enough bad news to go around, no need to cause more panic ...yet

although quite a few experts have said the possibility of an explosion exists, and could be growing :(
 Quoting: oldboldpilot



I saw after I posted that you withdrew your report. I understand there is much confusion right now, don't worry.

I find no reason to withdraw my response, though. Nothing can prevent it from happening, sorry. Basic chemistry and physics as I understand it.
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I WANT TO SEE A PIC OF THE SITE TAKEN AT NIGHT TO SHOW IF THAT THING IS LIGHTING UP THE SKY LIKE CHERNOBYL WITH NEUTRON BEAMS.

Sorry for shouting but why arent we seeing night time pics, what are they hiding?????????????????????????????
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dragosr‎ RT @Reuters: FLASH: Explosion heard at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi No.2 reactor: Jiji News Agency
Twitter - 4 minutes ago
 Quoting: oldboldpilot


Another hydrogen explosion I presume. How could anyone be surprised, given the ongoing hydrolysis inside the containments in the presence of a blazing hot melting reactor core?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301223


I am not sure of that story...I need to find confirmation. Some people are posting old news on Twitter...so one has to be careful before spreading it...

I'd rather hold off until I can find that there is confirmation from other sources. Enough bad news to go around, no need to cause more panic ...yet

although quite a few experts have said the possibility of an explosion exists, and could be growing :(
 Quoting: oldboldpilot



I saw after I posted that you withdrew your report. I understand there is much confusion right now, don't worry.

I find no reason to withdraw my response, though. Nothing can prevent it from happening, sorry. Basic chemistry and physics as I understand it.
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Jiji press if you can translate Japanese to english might be something on there.
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New Aerial Video of Fukushima

Smokin!


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Fuckin hell! Absolutely incredible, what the hell can they do? Seems like this cant be real.
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dragosr‎ RT @Reuters: FLASH: Explosion heard at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi No.2 reactor: Jiji News Agency
Twitter - 4 minutes ago
 Quoting: oldboldpilot


Another hydrogen explosion I presume. How could anyone be surprised, given the ongoing hydrolysis inside the containments in the presence of a blazing hot melting reactor core?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301223


so where is the fucking news coming from.... NHK WORLD [link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
IS DOING A GREAT JOB AT DISTRACTION, JUST SHOWING PRE RECORDED FOOTAGE OF THE AFTERMATH!!
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dragosr‎ RT @Reuters: FLASH: Explosion heard at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi No.2 reactor: Jiji News Agency
Twitter - 4 minutes ago
 Quoting: oldboldpilot


Another hydrogen explosion I presume. How could anyone be surprised, given the ongoing hydrolysis inside the containments in the presence of a blazing hot melting reactor core?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301223


I am not sure of that story...I need to find confirmation. Some people are posting old news on Twitter...so one has to be careful before spreading it...

I'd rather hold off until I can find that there is confirmation from other sources. Enough bad news to go around, no need to cause more panic ...yet

although quite a few experts have said the possibility of an explosion exists, and could be growing :(
 Quoting: oldboldpilot



I saw after I posted that you withdrew your report. I understand there is much confusion right now, don't worry.

I find no reason to withdraw my response, though. Nothing can prevent it from happening, sorry. Basic chemistry and physics as I understand it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301223


ty! I have felt for the past 2 weeks we are watching history unfold...not just an earthquake story. It seems surreal at times. All day yesterday, it felt like a calm before a storm, and I agree with you that an explosion, or some major event is inevitable

Now we just wait, and unfortunately it will have to be so big that the media cannot downplay it...
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‎
KrauseForIowa‎ High radiation in #2 #Fukushima may be the merging of hot spots in the spent rods.Like watching fireplace log take off to full burn. #japan

Twitter - 14 minutes ago
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But why arent all the people in Japan dead, if it is that bad. and why dont other countries force their help on Japan even if they dont want it?
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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So that bullshit plan to pump water out of the turbine building basement into the condenser storage just blew up.

Safety agency officials had been hoping to pump the water into huge, partly empty tanks inside the reactor that are designed to hold condensed water.

Those tanks, though, turned out to be completely full, said Hidehiko Nishiyama of Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.

Meanwhile, plans to use regular power to restart the cooling system hit a roadblock when it turned out that cables had to be laid through turbine buildings flooded with the contaminated water.

"The problem is that right now nobody can reach the turbine houses where key electrical work must be done," Nishiyama said. "There is a possibility that we may have to give up on that plan."


[link to news.yahoo.com]
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can someone tell me a REALISTIC worst case scenario? Are we talking about the end of Tokyo? Or the end of Japan? Or the end of the world?

And if so, how would that play out exactly?

I'm serious here.
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the unthinkable has happened, this is a nightmare beyond comprehension. this is no longer just a scenario, it is reality. japan will probably be an uninhabitable island for the next many thousand years, the environmental impact of all this will be huge and it will be extremely toxic for the entire human race.
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the latest picture, about 45 mins ago, shows smoke rising

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]
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Very good information and discussion posted today at ALL THINGS NUCLEAR. Does this suggest a cracked spent fuel pool?:

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Where Did the Water in the Spent Fuel Pools Go?



| by David Wright | nuclear power | nuclear power safety | Japan nuclear |

Since early in the current crisis—a few days after the earthquake and tsunami damaged the reactors at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi facility—people have been concerned about lack of water in the spent fuel pools at the reactors. The water is needed to cool the spent fuel rods, which continue to generate significant heat for years after being removed from the reactor core due to their radioactivity...

...As long as the water, even though boiling, continues to cover the fuel rods it protects them from damage. But once it drops far enough to expose a meter or so of the rods, the exposed sections can become hot enough to damage the cladding on the rods and release radioactive gases. If the fuel continues to heat up, the cladding can begin to burn, which produces hydrogen. If enough hydrogen collects above the pool, it can explode.


They go on to say:

Reports also said that workers began taking initial steps on March 15 to cool the water in the pools at Units 5 and 6, and that by March 17 temperatures were still rising, reaching between 60 and 70 degrees C. This is also roughly consistent with the numbers in the table, assuming these pools were full of water. By March 19, cooling at both pools 5 and 6 appeared to be working to bring the temperatures down.

But the times in the table indicate that boiling of the water in the pools would take much too long to account for the low water levels and exposed fuel reported at the spent fuel pools in Units 2, 3, and 4. So something else must have caused the low water levels.

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...

I find no reason to withdraw my response, though. Nothing can prevent it from happening, sorry. Basic chemistry and physics as I understand it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301223


ty! I have felt for the past 2 weeks we are watching history unfold...not just an earthquake story. It seems surreal at times. All day yesterday, it felt like a calm before a storm, and I agree with you that an explosion, or some major event is inevitable

Now we just wait, and unfortunately it will have to be so big that the media cannot downplay it...
 Quoting: oldboldpilot


I share your impression. We saw a few hydrogen explosions in the beginning of this drama, they made a very good effort to cool the cores and the spent fuel pools since.

It cannot go on forever in this fashion, though. Radiation at the site now seems already too high for humans to endure, the ongoing makeshift cooling attempts cannot continue for long because of it.

When no people can be present at the site to suppress the deepening of the disaster, things could escalate very quickly. I sincerely hope I'm wrong in my conclusions from available information.

I cannot say how sorry I am to see what is about to happen, as if it was not enough what already transpired.

I sincerely hope I'm mistaken.

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