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The Mark Of The Beast.

 
tomasgod1

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I believe I would take the mark for the sole purpose of living to fight another day. When you take death theres no hope. Even if you believe in the after life why would you be in such a rush to get there. You might as well help your fellow man as much as you can before ultimately forfeiting your life once and for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237991


You see. The numbers that take the mark to fight will be so few its almost futile.

It's how the illusion is successful. And even then the ones who take the mark are condemned by the same ideal that caused the others to refuse.

It fucking genius how they planned it.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


I don't think so. There are plenty of people that are clueless. There are people right now that are and have been accepting of biometric implants. Verichip has been making these devices, and people have been being implanted with them. People can be easily sold through ideas such as "it will protect your child from ever being kidnapped", or "all of your medical information can be stored on this in case of an emergency". The trick as always is to introduce the idea gradually.
 Quoting: tomasgod1


You have a point as far as the thought of accepted choice. How it implemented is not really relevant and clouds the real issue.

The real issue is the idea that there is a choice to be made.

When the choice is made you give away the remaining power that you have to an ideal that was created and scripted for these days.

In a nutshell? If we choose we lose.
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That is why we have to fight any type of legislation that tries to implement the use of anything that looks like it could lead down this road. Here in TX they have been trying to pass legislation to force us to chip all of our animals (livestock, and pets), and they are loosing this battle. RFID, REAL ID, Human Microchip Implants, Government Surveillance, Encroachment on Freedom, Animal and Food Tracking, and Retail Data Collection have ALL GOT TO GO!
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Familiar with John 3:16? For God so loved the World that He gave His only Begotten Son,that whosoever believeth on Him shall not parish but have everlasting life.

That being said,why must we endure this last test of the Mark of the Beast? Any thoughts?
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I’m not sure why nobody takes the time to find out what “The Mark of the Beast” really is. It’s Tefillin in Judaism, two small leather boxes containing scrolls from the Torah, that are strapped to the left arm and the forehead by Jewish men for daily prayer.

Here’s a picture:

[link to i1126.photobucket.com]

oil

Whatever jerk, I mean scribe during the dark ages, that rewrote the bible, just screwed up on the location on the arm. They must have burnt too many Jews at the stake to get an actual description.
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The Summer Solstice – Capricorn

Revelation 13

A Beast From The Earth


11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


Following from Revelation 13 1-10, verse 11-18 describes the opposite solstice, the winter solstice or the zodiac symbol Capricorn. Needless to say Capricorn does have two horns like a lamb and Capricorn’s zodiac element is earth as in; “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth”. The planet attributed to Capricorn is Saturn and the reference to the mark and the number “666” appears to be a reference to Saturn. People that worship gods on a Saturday are known to respect the Sabbath, the people that do this are giving respect to the age old god Saturn or in Greek Kronos. The well regarded religious group that continues to worship on the Sabbath are Jews. The Jews most recent political incarnation, Israel, was formed in 1948 and is duly represented by a stellated hexagon commonly known as the Star of David; a symbolic reference to the Old Testament patriarch King David. A stellated hexagon is formed with a six sided polygon with six vertices at its inner edges and another six vertices formed at its outer points.
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It's obviously implantable rfid chips...
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If you are so sure that heaven and God exists, then why not take the mark of the beast. You will end up going to heaven anyway, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1320106

Because God said that anyone who takes the Mark of the Beast would forfeit their souls.

Taking the Mark of the Beast also requires worshiping the Beast or it's image. It's a package deal.

Christians (true believers) alive at that time will instead receive a Mark of God from God.

So, it's your life or your soul. Which will you choose?

It's important to choose the correct team when faced with such choices.

But the choice will be yours alone to make.
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Even if God and Satan's Mark of the Beast did not really exist, if TPTB played on this belief, they would have to have the power of life and death over you to be able to carry out the threat of The Beast.

So, the scenario would need to assume they have this power over you to be in a position to give you the choice to live or die. Basically, the assumption is that they would need to have you in custody before offering you a choice.

Once in custody, you will have to make a choice, for if you do not choose, they could choose for you and kill you anyway. So if you are already in custody and refuse to play their game, you will likely die. Such a refusal to choose, knowing the probable outcome then, itself becomes a choice. A choice will surely be made, even if you think you can resist the game.

The only realistic way (in this hypothetical scenario) to choose not to play the game is to choose not to be taken into custody in the first place. At that time, your choice will then be made on the battlefield, and not in the interrogation chamber. But nevertheless, you will still have made a choice not to accept the Mark of the Beast by choosing to risk death in battle or on the run instead of allowing yourself to be taken into custody. It's simply a matter of timing then on when you choose not to take the Mark of the Beast, really.

The Beast only has the power of life and death over you if it or it's system can manage to detain or kill you, which is harder when you are still free to run and hide from it. But it will be able to deny you access to the Matrix, which is a form of control that you will be subject to, because existence in the Matrix will require the Mark of the Beast as proof of loyalty to the Beast and it's system. Without the Mark, you will be a renegade that will be hunted down like a rabid dog.

The Beast's power of life & death for those it can get it's claws on, and it's power to lock down the Matrix will be no illusion. It'll be very real, and will certainly have to be dealt with for those alive and within reach of the Beast at that time.

For those who think they can overcome and destroy the Beast, they don't realize they are simply mortals fighting against immortals. I believe this to be true. They can do damage, but they cannot win. That cosmic game is stacked against them. All they'll be able to do is resist and survive outside the Matrix, maybe.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312042


Nicely put but they are not immortal..Yet. The idea of a no win scenario is a programmed fail safe as well. It will lead you back to making the choice on a simpler scale. You see the illusion has to be maintained at all cost.

That illusion is that they or the beast is already in control. It's simply a program and a lie.

The lie that leads them to the goal..the actual control.
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The illusion is that a Beast has control and you have to make a choice.

The reality is that the Beast doesn't have control unless you make the choice.
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Familiar with John 3:16? For God so loved the World that He gave His only Begotten Son,that whosoever believeth on Him shall not parish but have everlasting life.

That being said,why must we endure this last test of the Mark of the Beast? Any thoughts?
 Quoting: DeeperThoughts 1318722


Christians have never been promised protected from presecution, in fact we are supposed to rejoice in it, because is shows are faith. Anyone can believe something when times are good, its when times are bad the true character shows. The mark, tribulation will show the heart of all.
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I’m not sure why nobody takes the time to find out what “The Mark of the Beast” really is. It’s Tefillin in Judaism, two small leather boxes containing scrolls from the Torah, that are strapped to the left arm and the forehead by Jewish men for daily prayer.

Here’s a picture:

[link to i1126.photobucket.com]

oil

Whatever jerk, I mean scribe during the dark ages, that rewrote the bible, just screwed up on the location on the arm. They must have burnt too many Jews at the stake to get an actual description.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298593


In the Torah this is described as keeping God's commandment. If anything, maybe it is a reminder that our head and hand is already bound to g-d and that we are not to take an alternative mark for the sake of commerece.

I don't see anyone not being able to buy or sell for not wearing Tefillin.
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As far as the pretrib rapture theory goes its a lie to deceive to millions into thinking they dont have to perpare because they will be taken out before the really bad stuff happens, well how much worse do you think it will get?


John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.


John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.


1 corth 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


When will they hear His voice ? At the last day , when that last trumpet sounds.


Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

This is all talking about the day when Jesus comes forth on the last trump,with a shout so loud that the dead will rise.


1 thess 4:16. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 thess 4:17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


So please tell me where do you get there will be a pretribbulation rapture, when the bible clearly says the dead shall rise first and then those who remain. On the last day at the last trump?
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Well, we're all on the Red List for sure now. All 85% that say FUCK YOU NWO that is.
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i dont need to give "morning star" my answer ... he already knows it - and thats all i've gots to say bout that
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Very tough question.

Circumstances are going to play into your decision.
I said no way - rather die, as did most people, but I wonder...could I be tricked?

If the SHTF and someone says here take this and implant it and it will save your life...(it protects against radiation or something like that) you would probably do it.

The thing with the Mark being implanted is once it is in there, no matter what they say it is for, they will be able to use it for ulterior purposes. They can turn up the volume and drive you mad, make you dance or shop or kill your mother. Kill you or even make you wish you were dead but unable to kill yourself. We all saw The Matrix...they could make us do that.

We all get vaccinations and we are not doctors.
They could be sticking us with anything really, who knows what they are giving us?
Are vaccinations really protecting us AGAINST something
or making us susceptible TO something?

Vaccinations are PROOF if we are told it is good for us....we will do it.
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I would take the mark.

For myself, I would refuse it and die. But I have others that I'm responsible for. Without the mark, I couldn't feed or clothe them. When the little ones grow up, they'll have to make that decision for themselves.
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That is what I'm sure will end up causing most people to take the mark.
 Quoting: pdot


Yeah. So, the State rounds everyone up and gives us a choice: take the mark and live, refuse the mark and you get sent to the gas chambers.

If I refuse the mark, where does that leave my children? Fatherless, and in the custody of the State. A lifetime of brainwashing and indoctrination.

I fail. Fail as a father, fail as a protector, fail as a man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1320212

Having to make a horrible choice between your soul and your children's lives might be the hardest choice you might ever have to make.

There is no easy answer there. It would boil down to a question of faith. And the strength of that faith. A few have it, but most don't.

I don't think someone could realistically make the right choice there without some serious faith. It would take a lot of faith to put your children's future in the hands of God, to trust that He will look out for them when you could not.
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So, everything has been an illusion, and frankly I have thought for some time that the end days are being played out by the same people who have controlled our lives with their 'religions'. I think their own technology turned against them, especially the internet, lol.

We were never 'under' them in the first place, nor did they ever have the power to control us, we gave them that power.

If we take off our chains that mentally bind us to these phony men of god and refuse to be a part of their churches, or plans, there is no choice to make.

They become insignificant?
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I would never take it and I'm preparing for it spiritually, mentally and physically.

A pastor of a church in Canada just did his sermon on this Sunday. You can watch it online.

Here's the link, click on "Watch online". Very good.

[link to www.churchoftherock.ca]
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Thanks, I've enjoyed it..
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I voted 'blank' because I would like to keep my life, but certainly not take the mark. I believe where there is a will, there is a way, and I would be looking at escaping to the forests or some such.
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The Summer Solstice – Capricorn

Revelation 13

A Beast From The Earth


11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


Following from Revelation 13 1-10, verse 11-18 describes the opposite solstice, the winter solstice or the zodiac symbol Capricorn. Needless to say Capricorn does have two horns like a lamb and Capricorn’s zodiac element is earth as in; “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth”. The planet attributed to Capricorn is Saturn and the reference to the mark and the number “666” appears to be a reference to Saturn. People that worship gods on a Saturday are known to respect the Sabbath, the people that do this are giving respect to the age old god Saturn or in Greek Kronos. The well regarded religious group that continues to worship on the Sabbath are Jews. The Jews most recent political incarnation, Israel, was formed in 1948 and is duly represented by a stellated hexagon commonly known as the Star of David; a symbolic reference to the Old Testament patriarch King David. A stellated hexagon is formed with a six sided polygon with six vertices at its inner edges and another six vertices formed at its outer points.
 Quoting: GDW


The seventh day sabbath was from the beginning of creation being blessed by God Himself.You are correctin saying the Jews observed it, but today so do many christians.

The sunday worship came from sun worshipping pagan catholics.

Let me guess you believe the doctrine of the serpent seed BS and believe that America is the Israelites and Jews are bad, well I believe any true believer is now a Jew. The lost tribes of israel are just that, lost.
And a non believing Jew is no worse or better off than a non believing gentile.
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When it comes down to taking this mark to survive, people will be finally pushed to the wall to make a choice in what they believe. It's that simple. You better get that decision made before hand and explain it to your loved ones soon.
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So, everything has been an illusion, and frankly I have thought for some time that the end days are being played out by the same people who have controlled our lives with their 'religions'. I think their own technology turned against them, especially the internet, lol.

We were never 'under' them in the first place, nor did they ever have the power to control us, we gave them that power.

If we take off our chains that mentally bind us to these phony men of god and refuse to be a part of their churches, or plans, there is no choice to make.

They become insignificant?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516293


Now you are getting it! And that doesn't go against any God. Take the choice out of the equation and you will see the enemy once and for all.

Are we so silly to damn ourselves and our species without checking first?

I mean we double check everything else.
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Familiar with John 3:16? For God so loved the World that He gave His only Begotten Son,that whosoever believeth on Him shall not parish but have everlasting life.

That being said,why must we endure this last test of the Mark of the Beast? Any thoughts?
 Quoting: DeeperThoughts 1318722


Christians have never been promised protected from presecution, in fact we are supposed to rejoice in it, because is shows are faith. Anyone can believe something when times are good, its when times are bad the true character shows. The mark, tribulation will show the heart of all.
 Quoting: pdot


Thank you for answering.Well said friend.That is why we must remember the 23rd Psalm...though I walk through the shadow of death I will fear no evil,for Thou art with me..Our faith must endure a nd remain steadfast,God will protect our children.No matter what our eternal lives are at risk.This passes through each ones mind right before their death..heaven or hell.Choose your side today,for tomorrow may be too late.
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When it comes down to taking this mark to survive, people will be finally pushed to the wall to make a choice in what they believe. It's that simple. You better get that decision made before hand and explain it to your loved ones soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073754


It doesn't seem natural does it. The choice to be made is where the beast actually gets the powers it seeks.

There is no mark or choice. It the illusion we have to break through.
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Religions are for the weak of mind. It's a crock of sh*t. There is no mark unless you believe there is. Once you believe in a mark of which you do not possess, you can neither buy nor sell, then they have you where they want you - in their control.
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Religions are for the weak of mind. It's a crock of sh*t. There is no mark unless you believe there is. Once you believe in a mark of which you do not possess, you can neither buy nor sell, then they have you where they want you - in their control.
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Yes indeed. The game is rigged and people are really sure this choice is the end all be all of their existence.

No true personal power. The only power they have is in the illusion that will destroy everything they love.
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If you are so sure that heaven and God exists, then why not take the mark of the beast. You will end up going to heaven anyway, right?
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No.
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why not? It is not true that if you repent you go to heaven? I would take the mark, live my life out, repent and go to heaven anyway.
Win win.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1320106


Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb
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As far as the pretrib rapture theory goes its a lie to deceive to millions into thinking they dont have to perpare because they will be taken out before the really bad stuff happens, well how much worse do you think it will get?


John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.


John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.


1 corth 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


When will they hear His voice ? At the last day , when that last trumpet sounds.


Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

This is all talking about the day when Jesus comes forth on the last trump,with a shout so loud that the dead will rise.


1 thess 4:16. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 thess 4:17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


So please tell me where do you get there will be a pretribbulation rapture, when the bible clearly says the dead shall rise first and then those who remain. On the last day at the last trump?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1320206


Some Pre-Tribbers think they don't need to prepare, and some do. Even with the Pre-Trib position, the bible does not say that things will not get bad before the rapture. So preparing for bad things is and has always been a good sound strategy for survival in any age.

What you have shown above are passages of both the resurrection at the rapture, and the resurrection at the 2nd Coming of Christ after Armageddon.

Many people confuse "the trump of God" and "the last trump" with other trumpets sounding in the bible. There will be many trumpets sounding in the End Times. The 7th Trumpet Judgment is often listed as "the last trump", but in Jewish culture "the last trump" is very specific. It's the trumpet that blows in Jerusalem to end the harvest. It's called, "The Last Trump." Those Jews who were alive during Jesus/Yeshua's time that were there on the Mount of Olives during Yeshua's Olivet Discourse knew this tradition well. It was common knowledge to them, if not to us Gentiles 2000 years later.
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I’m not sure why nobody takes the time to find out what “The Mark of the Beast” really is. It’s Tefillin in Judaism, two small leather boxes containing scrolls from the Torah, that are strapped to the left arm and the forehead by Jewish men for daily prayer.

Here’s a picture:

[link to i1126.photobucket.com]

oil

Whatever jerk, I mean scribe during the dark ages, that rewrote the bible, just screwed up on the location on the arm. They must have burnt too many Jews at the stake to get an actual description.
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Can they buy or sell when they dont have that? I think so
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So, everything has been an illusion, and frankly I have thought for some time that the end days are being played out by the same people who have controlled our lives with their 'religions'. I think their own technology turned against them, especially the internet, lol.

We were never 'under' them in the first place, nor did they ever have the power to control us, we gave them that power.

If we take off our chains that mentally bind us to these phony men of god and refuse to be a part of their churches, or plans, there is no choice to make.

They become insignificant?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516293


Now you are getting it! And that doesn't go against any God. Take the choice out of the equation and you will see the enemy once and for all.

Are we so silly to damn ourselves and our species without checking first?

I mean we double check everything else.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012



Excellent points but wouldn't a visit from another "being" or ET also shatter religious dogma, constraints,...pretty much instantly?
Isn't that even the fear...learning of ET will destroy religious faith, people will no longer go to church. Isn't this why the Vatican is getting a little head start saying ET would not dispel religious belief but show the great diversity of God?

Maybe it will come to a point where religion is and should be outlawed the same way pornography is...But I do not see it going gently into the night, or fading away.
Religious baggage will haunt us as long as there is a zealot alive.
But then we have Christianity alone to thank for Mother Theresa and her work, the Red Cross, and the Modern Hospital. It took a Christian ethic to finally gather the sick in one place and help them...so religion is not entirely bad but like currency or money it is misused.

And it is not money itself that is "the root of all evil" but love of money. It is not God that is the root of the problem but belief in God and how it affects people.
I think people should practice their faith in private, not proselytize and it should be difficult if not impossible to tell what religion anyone is.
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Re: The Mark Of The Beast.
Familiar with John 3:16? For God so loved the World that He gave His only Begotten Son,that whosoever believeth on Him shall not parish but have everlasting life.

That being said,why must we endure this last test of the Mark of the Beast? Any thoughts?
 Quoting: DeeperThoughts 1318722


Christians have never been promised protected from presecution, in fact we are supposed to rejoice in it, because is shows are faith. Anyone can believe something when times are good, its when times are bad the true character shows. The mark, tribulation will show the heart of all.
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Thank you for answering.Well said friend.That is why we must remember the 23rd Psalm...though I walk through the shadow of death I will fear no evil,for Thou art with me..Our faith must endure a nd remain steadfast,God will protect our children.No matter what our eternal lives are at risk.This passes through each ones mind right before their death..heaven or hell.Choose your side today,for tomorrow may be too late.
 Quoting: DeeperThoughts 1318722


I agree.





GLP