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christian misunderstandings with correct teachings

 
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Instead of worrying about other people, you should take a good hard look at your beliefs. you've been exposed to Christianity yet believe in the Urantia book.

I bought one one time, back in my questing weird new age days. Even then, when I would entertain weird ideas, it seemed like the biggest bunch of bull I've ever read.
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i don't do BELIEF"S beloved, I do KNOWING. There is a huge difference and because of MY KNOWING, I KNOW which parts of it are dead on true, and which parts are a bit less than truth, because some PEARLS could not yet be given man. I remains the finest collection of Documents on this planet to help people understand the word "God." I was raised in Christianity, and I knew from the time of my earliest memories that Christianity was full of false information, little golden book story levels about God, and was a tool of the dark to keep people from becoming LIKE the FATHER.

I suggest if you still have your copy you take to actually reading and pondering it, for it is Christianity that is full of BULL about the nature of God. Some BULLSHIT, and some baby cow stuff that even a baby cow would reject, in it's over simplistic view.

Having talked to people who reject it, it is always because it is either beyond their comprehension, because of the little golden story book knowledge of god they have, or they know it's truth or at least has great truth and they are dark and don't won't people to become more enlightened as to the nature of thingy called God on this planet. Which is YOUR issue?

I do have a thread on the UB here, where myself and others have posted favorite selections from it. It IS a massive 2000+ page book with topics that will be seen as complex. But it is possible to read it, IF one can read in the first place. Start with easy parts. You do not have to start at the introduction, which IS way beyond the little golden story book version of God.

I suggest some of you just read thru the posts in the UB thread first to whet your appetite? Ponder the various posts, and you just might fall in love. applause Thread: Discovering the Urantia Book
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[link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] Enlarge the image and enjoy, for dear ones as part of the ascension this is what the people of earth must desire. hf
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When they die, or after judgement day?
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When they die, or after judgement day?
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Please read the earlier thread. NEVER do these bodies go to heaven ever. When you go to "heaven" you are given a NEW BODY which does not require a toilet. The body depends on where your level IS. It may look something like you, because the information comes from the electrons that make up your astral form. Jesus did not go to heaven in his body! That was a massive lie, but it was allowed because he needed to leave the area and continue the planned mission to India and Central Asia for teaching.

Some new agers believe they can ascend this body to heaven also. That is not true as it is. These bodies are changing because of the new energies we are in, so they will adapt to the changing planet, which will become "heaven like." But they don't go to the worlds of heaven, which are specially constructed worlds, and not evolutionary worlds like this one.

I am asking you to ponder what happens to all those on this planet who have died since the time of Jesus. There was a resurrection at that time. Most can't even be found, let alone "resurrected" to any where. You are no long in your body when you pass this plane. I mention this because many Christians believe people stay in the grave until the resurrection. Ponder again all those that have died and never been buried in a "grave" of any sort.

Your soul has in it all the information need to reconstruct a body looking like you in the resurrection halls of "heaven." But minus this type of digestive system. You will consume food that is completely dissolved and utilized and does not leave behind POOP.applause
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Ok, Christians are getting awfully nasty here on GLP, in a way they were not even a year ago. Guess you ones are feeling the end times too. And the beginning of the new times.

Now, let me point out the one thing that bothers me the most HERE and other forums and in my life personally as long as I can remember. Now why it IS true, that Jesus Christ is the only way to the FATHER, you ones do not understand how or why. So I am going to ask one of my favorite questions and see what answers show up.

What about the Muzzies as they called here, the buddhists, the taoists, the so called atheists, the hindu's etc. What happens to them? They are born in culture that have never heard of Jesus Christ. I am posting a poll but also wish commentary.
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See how stupid religion can make you? Damn
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Why do you come at people like a bratty child who thinks they know better all the time? That shit is annoying and cheapens what little wisdom you do have.

Disrespecting those whom disagrees with you is egotistical and petty, you talk like your above that, but your demeanor screams otherwise...

And you should capitalize the NOT in your title rather than the DO, adding emphasis your actual intention, jeesh.
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Why do you come at people like a bratty child who thinks they know better all the time? That shit is annoying and cheapens what little wisdom you do have.

Disrespecting those whom disagrees with you is egotistical and petty, you talk like your above that, but your demeanor screams otherwise...

And you should capitalize the NOT in your title rather than the DO, adding emphasis your actual intention, jeesh.
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because that is my purpose, we do not have forever to try and get people to actually THINK. I run the earth portion of the 2nd Coming team. It's my role. :its all good:
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Why do you come at people like a bratty child who thinks they know better all the time? That shit is annoying and cheapens what little wisdom you do have.

Disrespecting those whom disagrees with you is egotistical and petty, you talk like your above that, but your demeanor screams otherwise...

And you should capitalize the NOT in your title rather than the DO, adding emphasis your actual intention, jeesh.
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because that is my purpose, we do not have forever to try and get people to actually THINK. I run the earth portion of the 2nd Coming team. It's my role. :its all good:
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Okay, you know what, if you're happy, and I'm happy, then it's all good.

Sorry for a moment of brashness, you get on my nerves sometimes, but it is all good :)
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Why do you come at people like a bratty child who thinks they know better all the time? That shit is annoying and cheapens what little wisdom you do have.

Disrespecting those whom disagrees with you is egotistical and petty, you talk like your above that, but your demeanor screams otherwise...

And you should capitalize the NOT in your title rather than the DO, adding emphasis your actual intention, jeesh.
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because that is my purpose, we do not have forever to try and get people to actually THINK. I run the earth portion of the 2nd Coming team. It's my role. :its all good:
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Okay, you know what, if you're happy, and I'm happy, then it's all good.

Sorry for a moment of brashness, you get on my nerves sometimes, but it is all good :)
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Thankyou! I am glad I get on your nerves sometimes! Again, :its all good:

The method works actually and every person that wakes up a little and finds the Father INSIDE OF THEM, where he resides and stretches their box even a little bit, makes it all worthwhile. hf

The mind of even great ones still have a box around them. There is believe it or not, a whole lot of Box change out going on in the very highest realms full of the most intelligent angels and humans in the creation who are stretching out of old boxes because of what is being observed on earth right now. One can never keep a fixed box of mind, because if they do, growth ceases.

Here a great singer, who was famous for a song called Little Boxes. Everyone one on this planet is supposed to grow out of the boxes. I placed two links. the first is to a playlist of her work, the first song being Little Boxes, next is The Grass Song which has also a double meaning. The earth is full of concrete people and we need to encourage people to push thru it as in LIFE.

[link to www.youtube.com]



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[link to www.abundanthope.net]

Know thyself as God-Nebadonia (Nebadonia is MOTHER Spirit, of Nebadon. As a daughter of the Infinite Spirit of the Trinity, she completes the Trinity for Nebadon. She is the HOLY Spirit. What you who are Christians call the Holy Spirit is not the HOLY spirit. but the Spirit of Truth, a gift to Earth from Michael and Nebadonia.


The triumphant glow within the spirit of man is the presence of God. Defeat is never an option, for man is his own victor. It is the sight of man that is short for he sees his periphery, his surface and not his depth. His inability to claim his godhood comes from not knowing that he is the champion of his own cause. Mans’ intellect derides him and he cannot conceive his own might and he therefore settles for less than who he is and seldom achieve that which he is truly capable of. He creates a persona which is less than divine that he may search for the divine. His search is sometime endless for disbelief parades his very nature and he denies his ultimate destiny an opportunity to find its goal in his mortal journey.

His inner light is clipped like the wings of a bird and it is clipped often by choice yet sometimes by design always with the hope that he will free himself. Man has been given the know-how and the teachings yet he chooses to be moved by the world surrounding him rather than in the inner world of sprit which is designed to be the guiding force for his worldly endeavours. In the absence of spirit’s influence he fails to find his true self in the miasma that is fraught in his unintelligible world. There is no intelligence in that which is outside of man yet man is drawn like a magnet to the outer uncertainties of his existence. He berates the very life within, unconsciously so, when he seeks to deny the existence of God within him.

As the door of creation prepares to breathe itself open once again, mankind is being flooded with energies divine. These energies are breathed in at the soul level and through the influx, an awakening is being amortized within the hearts and spirits of men and women.

The irreverence which has paled the glow of man for eons is beginning to subside as many begin to wander in to reclaim what was forgotten. It is likely though that the divine breath will cull the souls not yet ready to partake of their divinity. For truly separation is called for as the coal is being removed that the distinctness of the diamonds may show and cast its light through the ailing globe.

These times highlight the need for man to know his perfection and it is effort and desire that will transport him to that place where perfection lies. The excuses are now redundant. Vision is now called upon that the unearthing and unleashing of divine order within begins its reign. Those awakened to the glory of the inner God must establish themselves in that presence and bring the light of God alive through them in their works on earth. How else can the Kingdom of God be established on your plane? Why do you allow the outer world to conflict you so? Are your needs so great that the God within cannot fulfill so that you need to hold on vehemently to the trappings which will inevitably bury you in a rut and stifle the divine in you.

Children you have chosen to take this journey. You know the truth which is buried deep in your unconscious. How can you deny your identity? You are a part of the One. In truth there is no distinction because separation is a myth. It is the understanding of the mind that will enable you to grasp this and comprehend your true nature as God and not man. For who is man but a creation of himself designed to bring immortality to that which appears mortal. The journey comprises lessons beloved ones and lessons well learnt causes the inner presence to grow and glow in awareness.

The lessons are not academic but spiritual; yet the spirit holds the wisdom which creates the knowing of the truth, the very essence of God passed to man. The presence of God is incarnate within you – it is this presence that calls you and shall willingly guide you home. You need only apply your higher mind and you shall begin to reckon with yourself and come to know and gradually experience your God potential . It is the knowing that will create the energy fortuitous to your eventual return to your SOURCE.

Disbelief is a sham. It nurtures doubt and on a mindal level separates what is ONE. The Father within each of you is calling you home. Will you not answer the call and free yourself from the bondage of the ego’s verbiage which seeks to distance you from your natural heritage?

Know yourself as God and you shall by your own efforts experience the living God within you.

Nebadonia come in the light of the Source to bring a message of enlightenment. The time is now.
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from a thread today, and I don't know if I have posted this passage from the Urantia book here or not, but so be it. It is in my UB thread, but without the teaching I placed in this one today, but it may have similar teaching.

you dont have to believe in a single entity who created the world. Think of god as everything. God is the universe
He didn't create it. The universe was always there

In the bible god is just used inappropriately and taken into context much more personally than it should

The bible is just a written jewish story that they are wishing to fulfill.

Now SHILL ON!! 5a
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Wrong, because you see all of you ones who have ever lived, here or elsewhere created it. And the main universe was not always there, but the Isle of Paradise apparently was. The bible God is the ones christians like to label Satan. The Father is the Creator but all his sons helped him along. That is much closer to truth. People place God outside of them, meaning the Trinity outside of them, and it's in them and in all life in fact.

Matter was not always there in the fullest sense, it comes from all that thought that goes out into space.

Here is a small portion of the creation story of OUR LOCAL UNIVERSE, as you will see some of God's son's set of the mass that became the main nebula that became OUR universe. Universes are many and come from Nebulas.

This is from the Urantia Book Paper number 57 The Origin of Urantia (our planet)
I added teaching to this, in (xxx-C)

1. The Andronover Nebula

(651.3) 57:1.1 Urantia is of origin in your sun, and your sun is one of the multifarious offspring of the Andronover nebula, which was onetime organized as a component part of the physical power and material matter of the local universe of Nebadon. And this great nebula itself took origin in the universal force-charge of space in the superuniverse of Orvonton, long, long ago. (this universe force -charge in space mainly comes from all that thinking going on people. Please contribute to thinking!, for it literally builds the creation. You are a son of god because you can reason, I hope anyway!hf -C)

(651.4) 57:1.2 At the time of the beginning of this recital, the Primary Master Force Organizers of Paradise had long been in full control of the space-energies which were later organized as the Andronover nebula. (Paradise is the Center of the Creation. It does not rotate, everything rotates around it. I am from Paradise, and that is where you are headed at some point in your future -C)

(651.5) 57:1.3 987,000,000,000 years ago associate force organizer and then acting inspector number 811,307 of the Orvonton series, traveling out from Uversa, reported to the Ancients of Days that space conditions were favorable for the initiation of materialization phenomena in a certain sector of the, then, easterly segment of Orvonton. (Orvonton is superuniverse #7, of 7 total. The Milky Way is the CORE galaxy of Orvonton. Orvonton and all the other 6 superuniverses have the potential of 100,000 local universes. We live in Nebadon, our local universe. Andronover became Nebadon along with a few other smaller nebulas etc that were gathered in.-C ).

(651.6) 57:1.4 900,000,000,000 years ago, the Uversa archives testify, there was recorded a permit issued by the Uversa Council of Equilibrium to the superuniverse government authorizing the dispatch of a force organizer and staff to the region previously designated by inspector number 811,307. The Orvonton authorities commissioned the original discoverer of this potential universe to execute the mandate of the Ancients of Days calling for the organization of a new material creation. (Uversa is the government headquarters of Orvonton. It is specially constructed, is massive in size and has many sub spheres and this is the "highest heaven" of Orvonton. as you ascend your soul you will someday live on it. If you don't already, some of you may who are incarnate here, ponder that if you think yourself extra smart and an old soul There are 3 ancients of Days, which are angelic in creation who lead the government of Orvonton.-C)

(652.1) 57:1.5 The recording of this permit signifies that the force organizer and staff had already departed from Uversa on the long journey to that easterly space sector where they were subsequently to engage in those protracted activities which would terminate in the emergence of a new physical creation in Orvonton. (emergence of a new local universe. OURS!-C)

(652.2) 57:1.6 875,000,000,000 years ago the enormous Andronover nebula number 876,926 was duly initiated. Only the presence of the force organizer and the liaison staff was required to inaugurate the energy whirl which eventually grew into this vast cyclone of space. Subsequent to the initiation of such nebular revolutions, the living force organizers simply withdraw at right angles to the plane of the revolutionary disk, and from that time forward, the inherent qualities of energy insure the progressive and orderly evolution of such a new physical system. (consider "duly initiated" a big bang of sorts, regards what our silly scientists "believe." As you can see, just OUR universe of Nebadon is FAR OLDER than the suggested 14 to 20 billions years for all of the creation. Since we are local universe 611,121, and things happen more or less sequentially, and there are 700,000 planed universes plus many more to come in the outer space rings, creation is huge. Each LOCAL universe will have eventually about 10 million inhabited planets each, and we have 3.8 already in Nebadon, inhabited meaning by beings with thinking MIND. The entire creation has about 5.6 trillion already, out of a potential of about 7 trillion, 1 trillion each superuniverse and far more than what is already present in the distant future in "outer space" which are regions outside the superuniverses. You have a very long eternal life of excitement before you, for you will all be helping in all of this in all sorts of ways. You do not live in a heaven of fluff.-C

(652.3) 57:1.7 At about this time the narrative shifts to the functioning of the personalities of the superuniverse. In reality the story has its proper beginning at this point — at just about the time the Paradise force organizers are preparing to withdraw, having made the space-energy conditions ready for the action of the power directors and physical controllers of the superuniverse of Orvonton. (Hopefully this is self evident, but if not, it means the angels and people began to take up their new roles in this.-C)

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This effort above is my gift to you readers. I am from Paradise and a teacher and organizer partaking in the 2nd Coming activities. My organization, is in fact the 2nd Coming organzation, a partnership of folks walking this planet and those from above, who are returned, like "Jesus." :big flowers:
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Message: THE DIVINITY OF THE HUMAN DUSTBIN
Message 64: THE DIVINITY OF THE HUMAN DUSTBIN
Seraphin through Rosie, 16th July 2011

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R: Dearest Seraphin: it is a beautiful Summer evening, but for me – as a vegetarian – the atmosphere is ruined because I can smell the neighbours’ barbecue, which saddens me greatly. Also, as I have had the words “divine dustbin” in my mind for the last few days, I suspect that this too may be part of this message.

S: Yes, Dearest, the way people on your earth continue to feed on dead animals while they could be fully aware of the devastating and dying effect which this has on their own cells, never ceases to amaze us who are of different body and of different mind, but this is only one of the methods you purposely use for self-annihilation. There are other slow ways, like other inappropriate substances introduced into the body, as well as inappropriate mind and soul food (which creates almost as much havoc) and there are quicker ways like multiple risk-taking, dangerous operations and use of weaponry and nuclear power in large-scale scenarios.

Not only do you treat your bodies as DUSTBINS, rejecting the miracles of yourselves, as well as the Divine Fragment which lives within, but you treat the whole earth as your backyard, conveniently stationing your refuse in places or countries where you will never again be confronted with it with your naked eye, BUT IT IS STILL THERE. Your body REGISTERS that dead flesh is passing through, your minds REGISTER that disabilitating poisonous thought structures or habits are passing through, and THE DAMAGE IS DONE although you may have the impression that the momentary or temporary problem or indigestion or pile of rubbish, will disappear almost immediately.

And again I say: THE DAMAGE IS DONE AND CONTINUES AS WE SPEAK ON ALL LEVELS. While help may be forthcoming in the future, humankind must change its concept of the human body from being a dustbin to that of a DIVINELY SACRED VESSEL, IMBUED WITH STARTLING CAPABILITIES BEYOND YOUR PRESENT KNOWLEDGE, ONCE PURIFIED OF MENTAL AND PHYSICAL INFECTION.

Similarly, you will have to change your concept of your earth, which is not simply a fairground where you can push others way, scrambling for the fastest ride, or where you can cram the sweetest food into your mouths to obliterate the spiritual craving. And we say to you BE VIGILENT: EXAMINE EVERY CENTIMETRE OF THE EARTH YOU TREAD AND ASK YOURSELF IF THIS FEELS LIKE HOLY GROUND. EXAMINE EVERY PHYSICAL PART OF YOURSELF AND RECOGNISE THE MIRACLE OF EVERY CELL, AND REMEMBER THAT THE PURER THE CELLS, RESULTING FROM THE PURITY OF INTENTION, THE GREATER THE SPARK OF SACRED FIRE WITHIN YOU WHICH WILL HEIGHTEN THE INTENSITY AND JOY OF YOUR DAILY EXISTENCE:

EXTEND THIS RECOGNITION AND ATTENTION TO “ALL THAT IS” AROUND YOURSELF, for only then will continuous peace on a cleansed earth be sustainable. We encourage you to use your critical faculties, look beyond the desires of your stomachs, look beyond your back doors, ingesting only that which is truly beneficial and sustainable SO THAT NO DUSTBINS ARE NECESSARY. We are not advocating that you all become pillar saints who ate no food and who had no bodily secretions, but we are advocating restraint and caution tempered by consideration for your own bodies and for others and – on another level – your own environment, the body of the earth, so that damage can be minimised, so that the imprint is divine rather than damaging and negligent producing requirement to correct.

In this we recommend ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND AT ALL TIMES, for the nets which will be spun are very finely meshed, and all impurities will have to be answered for, meaning that large, stubborn concentrations of impurities WILL NECESSARILY BE SWEAPT AWAY. Heed our words we beseech you, as the day is darkening, and it will soon become clear who shines brightly and clearly, unsullied by thoughtless harmful habits, and who will succumb to the night. We bless you all as you pass through this experience to start in a new era, continuing to meet the challenges you have not yet mastered on your upward journey. We love you, Seraphin
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Since when is "Christianity" a religion?

Have you ever heard anyone say they're religion was "Christianity?"

That's just stupid.

How about looking up the word, "religion" sometime - I dare you.
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Since when is "Christianity" a religion?

Have you ever heard anyone say they're religion was "Christianity?"

That's just stupid.

How about looking up the word, "religion" sometime - I dare you.
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How dare you, Chrisitians make that statement quite regularly. I have listened to it all my life and many make the same statements here on GLP.
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I don't know if I covered this already in this thread or not, but it's worth repeating. From a thread today on someone whose grandkids wanted to be baptized.

"I Baptize you in the name of the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit". Use water. Holy Water if you have some. Make the sign-of-the-Cross over the person's head while doing it.
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explain what Holy Water is please. All clean pure water uncontaminated with man's pollution, is holy. Priests have no power to make it. It is.
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Water that has been Blessed. You can get special Holy Water or just find some outside of a Church.
Interesting that Water from Fatima, if a person continues to add tap-water to the original bottle, it is said to continue the Holy/Blessed properties.
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I know what it is, and it's not necessary for a priest to make it. A priest cannot make it holy, that is nonsense. Fatima water does have energies yes, and works just like homeopathic stuff is made, except nature did it.

Let me tell you how to "bless water" and make it "holy", meaning to work at YOUR energy level.
Start with clean water, preferably filtered is you live on city water. Then you simply hold your hands near and around the container, and draw christ or god or paradise or source (you pick the term, it doesn't matter, use one that means God to you) energy thru your crown down thru your arms and into the water vessel. You will feel your hands tingle. When the tingling stops the water is charged with God Energy. No magic, that is all it takes and most priests have never heard of such. I have watched holy water being made, that is crap. All he does is bless it and YOU CAN BLESS it, but the above is a far better way to energize it. Letting clean water stand in the sun a couple hours is also highly useful to energize water, then shake it every time you pour some after that.

Do the same with your food before eat it. This was the original intent of blessing food, not a silly prayer to Jesus or Father or God to bless the food. YOU BLESS IT BY DRAWING ENERGY YOURSELF INTO IT.

When you have learned this you can discern low energy foods and water, as your hands will tingle long and hard to raise the energy. Food that is fresh will require little to none, you can tell by your hands.

Do this with stale store bought CRAP, sometimes the tingling never stops! Throw it out. You will learn a LOT about foods this way!

You do not need a priest ever, to do so, gives your energy to Satan and not God. GOD IS INSIDE OF YOU and the clerics do not even understand that, or if they do, they don't tell you. There is nothing a priest can do you cannot do yourself.
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I am placing this, a repeat of what I assume I have here at one time or another. doesn't hurt to repeat. From a thread asking how Jesus can take on your sins.

If you believe at all in the bible, here is the answer:

Adam was perfect, when he sinned in the garden of eden he lost that perfect life, passing on sin to his offspring, also rejecting God's authority to rule humans. God needed another perfect human to balance out what Adam lost, as was foretold in [Genesis 3:14,15].

The nation of Israel needed continual animal sacrifices because no amount of animals can equal a perfect human life. [Hebrews 10:4].

Before Jesus was born on earth, he was Michael, the archangel and first of all creation. [John 8:23]. Jesus was born a perfect human shielded by holy spirit in Mary's womb. [John 11:27] Was on the earth to tell others about God's kingdom [John 18:36] and what that would bring: i.e.: perfection, everlasting life, etc. [John 17:3]. His death paved the way for people to come to an accurate knowledge of God and the bible with the possibility of everlasting life.

He was dead for 3 days, [Luke 24:46] and was around for over a month to continuing teaching his disciples until he was raised to heaven [Hebrews 9:24] to serve as God's vassal king and back to being in his archangel position...ready to fight at [Revelation 19:14, 16] Armageddon and rule 1,000 years. [Isaiah 2:4].

Hope this helps. The added scripture is so you can see I'm quoting the bible.
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You have just written a total piece of falsehood. the Adam story is not what the bible states. AT ALL. The nation of Israel NEVER NEED SACRIFICES. How silly. Adam was not perfect either anyway. YOu don't know what the Adam's and Eves do, but what they did was introduce the violet DNA before its time, they lost their patience. And the times were terrible and they were depressed anyway. Understand Adam and Ever were here 38,000 years ago on a fully populated planet at that time. They were not the first people. They were a higher people on a particular mission that all evolutionary planets enjoy at some point. All get an "adam and eve", just not the same Adam and Eve.

"God" needed no other perfect human, where do you ones get this stuff. YOU HAVE MINDS which were supplied by GOD to you, could you learn to USE THEM. IF STUFF SOUNDS LIKE FAIRY TALES, Like Satan Claws for example..... it problem is lies and fairy tales.

His death was not required to pave any way, and he did NOT DIE on the CROSS, he lived, rested in the grave and went to teach in India, married, had 5 kids and died about 115 years of age in fact. You ones need to read Phoenix JOurnal #2 on the life of Jesus, written by JUDAS who was his best friend and scribe and NOT the betrayer. Judas was FRAMED by another with a similar name, really the father of the other with the similar name. Juda Iharioth.

Download this book mostly by Judas. [link to tweeofmeer.webs.com]

Esu (Jesus ) HAS returned, way back in 1954. Judas went to India with him, and after the death of 'jesus" the scrolls Judas wrote were returned to the old grave, and sources above led an priest of this world to them. Some were not readable, but the story is fascinating. Please avail yourself of this knowledge.

Jesus the part that was MICHAEL, was not AA MIchael. That incarnation 2000 years ago, was SHARED by MIchael of Nebadon, who cannot use a human body, being a very HIGH spirit being, so he more or less hitched a ride with Esu Immanuel. Both were Jesus. Michael of Nebadon is the creator of our Universe of Nebadon, which is NOT the whole creation, but a sector OF IT.

He is also returned as I post all the time. SIN IS NOT PASSED to offspring people. The unto the 7th generation means mans errors are reproduced by his offspring because of shitty knowledge and that is a MAJOR problem in religion right now, the lies and misunderstandings passed to the next generation. You ones are also passing all the pollution to the next generation too, you know.

His death was not necessary for the passing of knowledge.
Also he was NOT born of the "holy spirit." for some that believe that. The body is composed of DNA from MALE and FEMALE and the Holy spirit, has no penis or DNA. The Gabriel of Nebadon supplied the Male DNA, but not by sex, by laboratory methods.

Please folks, I work so hard hear, could some of you make use of it? This is not the only planet, it has had humans on it since the time of the dinosaurs, by method of migration from other planets.

Adam and Eve's are special folks from heaven, who, when the natural evolution of the race is as high as it can go, they come to upgrade the DNA. They do this by having many children. Adam and Eve are the violet race. There many children, having perfect DNA can intermarry and do, until for a planet like this there are 500,000 or more pure line descendants. They these are allowed to marry the best of the evolutionary races. This DNA they carry, is at least 24 strand DNA and produces a psychic brain and body.

That mission failed because EVE was convinced by Caligastia, our planetary prince who was part of the Lucifer rebellion, to have sex with an advanced member of the race and interject the violet DNA too early. Since he was planetary prince, but a nut case, she believed him and did it. Adam in his love went and did the same thing , knowing they had blown their mission. To stay with her.

Now this one thing might have been forgiven, (and was later), but you see this is a fucked up mucked up world, and it's leaders from heaven were corrupt and Caligastia purposely wanted to destroy the works of uplifting this race and would have continually caused a multitude of problems so the whole mission was aborted. Adam and eve each lived to over 300 years of age. They were forced from the first garden of eden because of WAR. That is under the eastern Mediterranean now, and the 2nd garden to which they migrated was in Iraq between the Euphrates and that other river, not getting out my map.

ADam and Eve are world leaders when they come, (not the same as the Prince. you see the Prince of this world mentioned in your bible, that was caligastia.)

They show a new way, build a global university system and have advisory councils from "heaven" which none of you have a clue about.

Had the Lucifer rebellion not occurred, that planet would long be in Light and Life now. the rebellion was 200,000 years ago and it's recorded somewhat in Revelations, and some of you think the stars of heaven are still to fall and that already happened long ago.

Michael of Nebadon visited this planet on purpose for many many reasons that go way beyond the teaching mission of Jesus. It has much to do with the resolution of the galactic wars and the anunnaki et all. Major clean up job going on, OK. A whole lot of POLITICAL reasons so to speak.

You ones, to improve upon yourselves, need to STOP this religious CRAP folks, you are a tool of the "satan" you still believe in. Satan isn't here nor is lucifer, but this is a prison world for 10 billion fallen angels and galactic thugs working out their karma. Many of you may well be them. Stop following this silly stuff and grow UP.

Develop your meditation abilities so you can communicate with the FATHER THAT IS INSIDE OF YOU. In that is all truth available to you. Your Father Fragment can communicate with the SPIRIT OF TRUTH bestowed on Pentecost by MIchael of Nebadon, who left the double incarnation at the time of the cross. He LEFT. IT was HE who was seen by the Mary's etc. ESU survived and continued to use the body the shared, and went to India to teach as above. He was NOT in the grave, because he walked out of it! He did not DIE. And that was however what was desired at the time, so that he could go to India in peace to continue his teaching. I am not faulting you on believing the lie for that reason.

These lowly animal bodies do NOT go to heaven. It is YOUR SOUL that is Resurrected and you are given a new body when you arrive on the mansion worlds after your resurrection.

What about all the people who lived and died before Jesus? There was a resurrection then. And what about all the ones since then? IF they are 3rd Circle of spiritual development, they go straight to heaven and awaken in 3 days in their NEW BODY which does not need toilets, all food is absorbed, no SHIT produced. Why would you want to take these crusty forms to heaven? You want to use toilets for eternity? Put on your minds.

Those not 3rd circle wait for a general resurrection and that is even in progress now with the return and there was one around 1000 AD too. I have met christians who will not undergo cremation because they think this body goes to heaven. How silly. How many bodies are LONG decomposed over the last 1000 years since the last intervening general resurrection? PLEASE.....
:big flowers::Black and White : The returned Esu, NOT in the body of 2000 years ago, that body is buried near Srinagar, Kasmir where he made his home and fathered 5 children. His hair is Sandy brownish red, and those big lovely eyes a deep bluish gray. He stands about 7 feet tall. I have met him personally, therefore I know of what I speak.
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dont be a fool all religions think infidels go to hell, escept hebrews which dont believe in heaven or hell other than what you have on earth.
What's yer point, to impune one religion for what all of them do? How did you get so smart?
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I am a not a fool, and what you say is true of all religions, regards the infidel stuff, but my personal knowledge is more with Christians as that is my experience. I have never met a muslim who called Christians evil or infidels however in my life, the teaching with them is that God sent his representatives to several different groups, and Jesus thus came for the group in the area of Israel, Mohammed came for the arab, etc etc. as a general sort of state. Moses for the "jews".

Hell is covered pretty good in the Old testament, so I disagree with the Hebrew comment. And I will get to a point in next questions, as todays JEWS were not the folks around in that area at the time of Christ.
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WHAT?????

You just said.......................
" I have never met a muslim who called Christians evil or infidels however in my life"

My friend, what ever respect you thought you had, you just lost in that one statement!

Either you are a fool, and idiot, or you have never turned on a TV, radio or read a newspaper or magizine in your entire life.

How in the world can you have the knowledge to operate a computer and post such an ignorant statement????

There is not one person reading your comment who believes you.

And your comments on who came for who is without any merit whatsoever and further displays your ignorance.

Someone once said.....
"It is better to be silent than to speak and thereby confirming what little we in fact do know".
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I have met LOTS of Christians who call Muslims infidels however. I don't have any close muslim friends but I have been around quite a few during protest work and when I have attended college, and I have never heard a one make such a statement. You Christians however, make them all the time, even to other Christians.

There are some who rightfully know that Zionists are the great Satan however.
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biblical concepts have a lot of lies. This is NOT the book of Jesus. The PJ's are. I have fully read the bible and most of it is not relevant to this world as it is. I have to personally KNOW Jesus, who has returned and you see his pic in some of my posts here. BY KNOW, I mean He has visited me personally in my home and I have visited him personally on craft.

My organization is a partnership with him in FACT and IS the 2nd Coming Organization. Christianity as a group is hugely ignorant of Spiritual things. You have placed your powers on the return of somebody to rapture you off to heaven and then solve earth's problems. You are the ones who are supposed to be walking in his shoes and knowing that God is inside of you, and generally few of you even come close to getting that concept.
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Here is a nice posting from Jesus Esu Sananda, and MOses from 1992. great spiritual teaching.
taken from www.truthwinds.com
12/2/92 SANANDA
Blessings, unto you this day, Blessed Child. It is I, Master Jesus. We shall begin today to speak on THE SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION. You know we would be getting around to these items very soon, as we have been discussing the same with you on the inner.

THE SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION, ONCE PLANTED, GROW AS HORRIBLE WEEDS WITHIN THE SPIRITUAL MAKEUP OF ANYONE WHO PLANTS THEM. THEY FORM LARGE VACANT DARK SPOTS WITHIN THE SOUL, PUSHING OUT ALL LIGHT. THESE ARE TOOLS OF THE ADVERSARY. YOU MUST REALIZE THAT ONCE THESE SEEDS ARE PLANTED, YOU FAST BECOME ABSOLUTELY POWERLESS OVER THE GROWTH OF THE SAME. YOU, PRECIOUS CHILDREN, CAN CONQUER THE GROWTH OF THE SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION ONLY BY RECOGNIZING YOUR OWN INABILITY TO CONTROL THE GROWTH OF THEM. INSTEAD OF ACTIVELY TRYING TO CONTROL THEIR GROWTH, YOU MUST HUMBLE YOURSELVES TO ADMIT YOUR OWN POWERLESSNESS OVER THE GROWTH OF THESE WEEDS, AND COME HUMBLY UNTO CREATOR ASKING FOR HELP IN REMOVING THE SAME.

Let us list herein, these CANCERS OF THE SOUL. THEY ARE: SLOTH, JEALOUSY; MALICE (INCLUDES GOSSIPING, LYING, FAULT-FINDING, HYPOCRISY, SLANDER); ANGER/RAGE, (HOSTILITY); GREED (INCLUDES GLUTTONY, LUST, EXTREME JEALOUSY); MAGICAL THINKING; PRIDE (INCLUDES PREJUDICE/ARROGANCE); FEAR, GUILT. THESE CANCEROUS BEHAVIORS, IF FED OVER TIME, GROW CANCEROUS OBSESSIONS. Precious Ones, you are POWERLESS OVER OBSESSIONS.

Now, let us continue. Beloved Children, you who GROW THESE SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION will frequently be the last ones to admit that you have grown them. To those around you, THESE DARK CANCEROUS GROWTHS will be quite obvious, unless those around you are afflicted with the same kinds of growths. AS THESE CANCEROUS GROWTHS BUILD ON THEMSELVES, YOUR VERY BEING BECOMES DARKENED. Once your being is darkened with the plants of these seeds, you will need help to remove them.

You, alone, CANNOT REMOVE THEM. It is when you humbly seek to be filled with the LIGHT of CREATOR, that you can ALLOW these DARK, cancerous weeds to be dissolved by the LIGHT OF GOD. THESE CANCEROUS GROWTHS WILL BE DISSOLVED SLOWLY (USUALLY), AND WILL EVENTUALLY DISAPPEAR, AS YOU CALL UPON THE LIGHT OF CREATOR TO "DO FOR YOURSELF THAT WHICH YOU CANNOT DO." AT SOME POINT YOU WILL BE VERY SURPRISED TO NOTE THAT YOU HAVE NONE OF THE CANCEROUS WEEDS REMAINING.

Precious Ones, recognizing your POWERLESSNESS is but one step of THE TWELVE STEP PROGRAM used by Alcoholics Anonymous AND MANY OTHER PROGRAMS associated with THE HEALING OF OBSESSIONS of COMPULSIONS. THE TWELVE STEP PROGRAM IS A DIVINELY INSPIRED PROGRAM WHICH HEALS THE SOUL.

The more you focus upon the cancer, the more it grows. LITTLE ONES, IT IS JUST AS THE GARDEN WHICH IS FERTILIZED. THE MORE IT IS TENDED, THE MORE IT GROWS. YOU WILL NOT CLEAN OUT THE CANCEROUS WEEDS THROUGH HUMAN WILL, ALONE. FOR YOU ARE INDEED POWERLESS TO DO SO. IF YOU ALL COULD CLEAN OUT THE CANCEROUS WEEDS, YOU CERTAINLY WOULD. MANY OF YOU CERTAINLY HAVE STRONG DESIRES TO DO THE SAME. YET, DESIRE, ALONE, WILL NOT DO IT.

Your main problem in all cases is a HUMAN WILL GONE AWRY. Precious Children, YOU WILL NEVER EVOLVE IN THE KINGDOM OF CREATOR UNLESS YOU WILL SUBMIT UNTO THE WILL OF HOLY CREATOR AND LIVE THE LAWS. For as long as you submit to your own willfulness, you are placing yourself, the creation, before (ahead of) the Creator. You make of yourself God, Creator. You cut yourself off from the LIGHT of God and fall squarely into the camp of the adversary. You become powerless over the growth of these weeds, which will devour you, in time. YOU WILL NOT BE EVOLVING SPIRITUALLY AS LONG AS YOU ARE SOAKED WITH THE DARKNESS OF THE GROWTH OF THESE WEEDS. FOR THOSE FILLED WITH DARKNESS BECOME LOST IN THE ANTICHRIST WAR OF DARKNESS.

You, sheep, who know these seeds to be destructive, but none-the-less sow the same, are most often HOUNDED BY GUILT. For, GUILT IS A POISONOUS BY-PRODUCT OF THE GROWTH OF MOST ALL SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION. (Behold, sheep!) EXCESSIVE HUMAN WILLFULNESS produces excessive GUILT which produces GREATER SPREAD OF CANCEROUS WEEDS. ALL OF YOU WHO GROW THESE WEEDS CONSTANTLY FIGHT A DARKNESS OF SPIRIT. You live a roller-coaster-existence, as you fight to push away from consciousness the ugliness of the cancers which grow within you. Most of you appear to be PHONEY and SHALLOW on the outer, depending upon the pervasiveness of the growth of the weed and your degree of suppression. ANY DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE MAKES YOU VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AS YOU ARE AFRAID THAT OTHERS MIGHT SEE YOUR LIE. Others of you TALK, TALK, TALK about what is going on inside of you, but you refuse to come in humility and admit your own WILLFULNESS and powerlessness. YOU ARE RELYING ON "MAGICAL THINKING" TO GET YOU CURED. NAY! IT SHALL NOT BE SO! IT IS YOUR WORK. YOU HAVE GROWN THE CANCEROUS WEED. DO NOT EXPECT A MAGICAL CURE. THERE IS NO "MAGIC" FROM THIS SIDE. THE RATE OF YOUR CURE = THE DEGREE OF YOUR SINCERE DESIRE TO BE HEALED + YOUR SINCERE WILLINGNESS TO DO YOUR WORK NEEDED FOR THE HEALING.

Precious Children, the healing means you must unload your own garbage from the inner. Write it down so that you do not overlook any "slight" to another human being. MAKE A SOLID AND TRUE LIST OF THOSE YOU HAVE HARMED, SEEK FORGIVENESS, AND MAKE AMENDS TO ALL INVOLVED. If you are an atheist, forget the healing. THE HEALING LIGHT OF GOD DOES NOT GO WHERE THE SAME IS DENIED ENTRANCE. For the effectiveness of the TWELVE-STEP Program depends upon your belief in a HIGHER POWER doing for you that which you cannot do for self. For the same to take place, you must let go of ALL PERSONAL WILLFULNESS, placing instead of your own will, the WILL OF CREATOR. Precious Children, the will of God is that each of you be WHOLE, not darkened or fragmented. FOR YOU ARE EACH DIVINE CREATIONS. AS YOU LET GO OF YOUR OWN WILLFULNESS, YOU WILL OPEN YOURSELF UP TO SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION.

The process is a simple one, indeed, but think not that you can cut it short. For it demands a TOTAL HONESTY. I did say, "TOTAL HONESTY". FOR THE PRINCIPLES OF CREATOR OPERATE ON TRUTH, NOT HALF-TRUTH. Make a list of all you have offended and make amends where possible. When you start to make a list of your offenses toward yourself, your brethren and Creator, do not expect to recall all at once. The big offenses will stand out like a bandaged thumb. In time, however, you will recall most, if not all, and you will be well on the way to cleaning out the inner. FOR WHEN YOU HAVE DONE AS MUCH, YOU WILL BE JOYOUS, INDEED, FOR YOUR BOAT WILL BE LIGHTER AND THE SAILING WILL BE SMOOTHER.

The problem many of you have is that you allow yourselves to be pulled back into the same kinds of thinking and acting. For this reason, the programs such as ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS and other TWELVE-STEP Programs offer the group encouragement you need to help strengthen yourself against attacks from the Adversary. FOR IT IS THE DESIRE OF SATAN AND HIS FOLLOWERS TO DRIVE YOU BACK INTO THE PLANTING OF THE SEEDS.

It is here that you must use your own willfulness to say "NO" to the planting of the seeds. Call upon the armor of God and ask for help from these realms. CLEAN YOUR GARDEN ON A MINUTE-TO-MINUTE BASIS. THE GROWTH OF ANY OF THE ABOVE CANCEROUS WEEDS CAN LEAD ANY OF YOU INTO ALCOHOLISM OR DRUG ADDICTION, PERVERSIONS OF THE FLESH, MURDER, THIEVERY AND SO ON.

Which was first, the SEED or the WEED? Answer if you will. FOR IT IS INDEED, TRUTH THAT ONE SEED WILL MAKE A WEED WHICH GROWS MANY, MANY SEEDS. You might not know about the presence of the seed but look, Precious Children, and you will note the growth of the weed. The growth of the weed manifests on the outer through overt behaviors. FOR THE NATURE OF THE MIND IS TO BRING MANIFEST IN THE MATERIAL THAT WHICH IS ON THE INNER.

PRECIOUS CHILDREN, YOU NEED ONLY ONE SEED. THUS IS THE NATURE OF GROWING YOUR WEEDS OF DESTRUCTION. IN THIS WAY YOU GO ABOUT PLANTING AND CULTIVATING YOUR OWN INNER SANCTUARY. THE SAME IS PLANTED AND CULTIVATED UNTO FREEDOM, WHICH IS OF CREATOR, OR, UNTO SLAVERY, WHICH IS OF THE ANTICHRIST. THUS IT IS. I AM, AS YOU KNOW ME, MASTER JESUS, THE CHRISTED ONE.
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12/11/92 MOSES
Blessings unto you this morning, Rosah. It is I, Moses. Now, Precious child, let us continue with the DIVINE PLAN, SECTION TWO. Herein, Little Ones, we are about to discuss THE SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION. THESE SEEDS, WHICH HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN A PREVIOUS DICTATION, ARE PLANTED BY YOU AND OFTEN FED BY THE WORKERS OF DARKNESS. BUT REMEMBER, IT IS YOU WHO GIVES ACCEPTANCE FOR THE SAME TO TAKE PLACE AND TO GROW. Remember, no matter the external forces upon you, it is you who GIVES (ALLOWS) space for these seeds to grow. THESE SEEDS ALWAYS TAKE AWAY THE LIGHT OF GOD, THEREBY GIVING PLACE FOR THE ADVERSARY TO TAKE HOLD. THIS, PRECIOUS CHILD, IS MOST OFTEN BY VERY SMALL DEGREES, WITHOUT YOUR OWN CONSCIOUS NOTICE.

As you know, Rosah, the drug-addicted, who prays to be released of the OBSESSION to "drug", awakens one day to find the OBSESSION no more. Well, the case is REVERSED with the GROWTH of the SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION. Once allowed place to GROW, the one who has given place to these seeds awakens one day to find a consumption with the WEEDS produced by the SEEDS. Then, Precious Children, it is your work to EXTRACT the weed. Do you think your work to be any EASIER than that of the ALCOHOLIC or DRUG ADDICTED in getting rid of the OBSESSION to drink or "drug"? No, indeed! FOR THE RUN-AWAY WEED WILL GROW BEYOND YOUR OWN CONTROL. You must remember that the TWELVE STEP PROGRAM "WORKS" because those therein ADMIT their own POWERLESSNESS and come unto Creator with a PENITENT heart asking that God do for them that which they can no longer do for themselves...MAKE THEM WHOLE, HEAL THEM.

Children, you must remember that the growth of these WEEDS is FREQUENTLY fed by the workers of darkness. These invisible dark spirit forms will speak to your mind in the spirit through THOUGHT transfer and will aid in the GROWTH of such WEEDS within you to the point of your own DESTRUCTION. These wish to estrange you from all support systems, such that you no longer wish to LIVE. They will often stalk you in numbers, pushing to displace your soul and POSSESS your body. They wish to drive out ALL LIGHT within your being, causing darkness, confusion and destruction. They wish to have none of you in the Earth sphere.

Many of you are calling this a bunch of "HOGWASH". Such is your own right to the same. For you are led erroneously to believe that these so-called POSSESSIONS are FROTHING AT THE MOUTH and FLYING AROUND THE ROOM. Little ones, this is RARELY, RARELY the case, whatsoever. You have been deliberately DECEIVED, again, by the ZIONIST ELITE (SATAN'S SELECT), who own and control your media and your very country, and your very world.

REMEMBER, "BY THEIR WORKS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM". IN THESE LATTER DAYS, THESE HAVE MADE CERTAIN TO PLACE THEMSELVES IN GREAT POSITIONS OF POWER. THESE "KNOW" ONE ANOTHER AND HAVE BANDED TOGETHER WHILE YOU, THE IGNORANT MASSES, HAVE BEEN WITHOUT DIRECT COMMUNION WITH THE HIGHER REALMS. THEY ARE CRAFTY AND CUNNING. They know what they are all about, for they have memories of many, many thousands of years INTACT. You, on the other hand, have crossed over into the VEIL of FORGETFULNESS and have returned to work out your DEBTS TO SELF AND OTHERS.

THESE REBELLIOUS SPIRITS DO NOT BOW TO ADMIT THERE IS A GOD, AS THEY PLACE SELVES IN THE STEAD OF GOD. THEY ARE ATHEIST. THEY REFUSE TO COME UNTO GOD TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR WRONGS. THEY WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU WISH TO HEAR, AND MOST OF YOU BELIEVE WHAT THEY TELL YOU AS YOU DO NOT KNOW OF THEIR HISTORY. THEY HAVE REMOVED ALL "TRUTHS" about themselves from the history books. This includes your most-prized history book, THE BIBLE. Thus, you have no way of "KNOWING" about them and the history of their works.

Precious children, it is time to awaken to the "TRUTHS" of your predicament. You are in the very latter days and it is time that the TRUTHS were given unto you that you might know of them and what you have been up against all along. They have known you from the time of your very births and far beyond and, for those of you who have been returned to do a SPIRITUAL WORK, it is you these have ATTACKED the greatest.

That which they dared to show of themselves on your television sets regarding the movie, ETERNAL EVIL, was presented by them about their very selves, such that you would accept the same to be in the class of "Dracula", for much fantasy was given therein. You must remember that within the LIES, they give unto you SOME TRUTHS. To the UNKNOWING, you accept all as LIE. This same tool they used with your so-called HOLY BIBLE so that you have bought the whole as a TOTAL TRUTH.

Precious Children, these who changed your BIBLE and other scriptures around the world have been the PHARISEES continuing by another face, another culture, another tongue. They are warring mongrels who continue down through history with their motto of "Divide and Conquer", "Divide and Conquer". THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY DIVIDE YOU ONE AGAINST THE OTHER THROUGH WARS AND MORE WARS, AND SEPARATE YOU FROM THE TRUTH OF GOD, YOU WILL SURELY FALL. This has been their modus operandi since the beginning and they are much experienced in the same. It is you, Precious Children, who must begin to know whom you are facing and just how they operate. For once you can grasp the same, YOU WILL BE ALL THE WISER IN YOUR FIGHT AGAINST THEIR BID FOR TOTAL WORLD DOMINION.

Many in your midst who commit murders and other heinous acts, and SWEAR that a VOICE told them to do the same are OFTEN telling the TRUTH. Others of these who tell the same are PSYCHOPATHS. THE TRUTH IS NOT IN THEM AS THE SAME ARE ONE OF "THEM". Now, do you suppose that it does you a bit of good to send some of these hardened criminals to the electric chair or to otherwise take of their lives? Look at the above scenario. Many of these will only remain in your sphere where they will continue with their evil work in spirit. Just as I communicate these writings to Rosah through electric impulses, these same ones communicate the SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION to many of you. These workers of darkness exist in spirit form all around you, yet operate at a level beyond the frequency of normal vision, just as we do. Just as you cannot see us with the physical eyes, you cannot see them with the physical eyes, unless, of course, they are in possession of a body, physical. Then, these would appear as any of the rest of you.

But, Precious Children, you have been warned many times over to observe their behaviors. BY THEIR FRUITS, YOU SHALL KNOW THEM. IN THIS MANNER, YOU SHALL NOT BE DECEIVED FOR LONG. For their spiritual makeup will be fast in the showing. You are not told to JUDGE THE PERSON--FOR YOU ARE FORBIDDEN TO DO THE SAME. YOU ARE TOLD TO JUDGE THE BEHAVIORS. THIS IS IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT, AND CANNOT BE OVERSTRESSED. How do you all suppose that you came to TRAIL THE WOLVES? You have continued to trail the wolves regardless of their behaviors. Now, the same are firmly entrenched among your leadership, running your country, and you shall all have the "Piper to Pay".

BEWARE, AND DOUBLE BEWARE, YOU WHO CONJURE UP THE SAME THROUGH OUIJA BOARDS AND THE LIKE. YOU ARE WORKING TOWARD YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION. ANYONE ON THE RECEIVING END OF THESE TRANSMISSIONS FOR PURPOSES OF TEACHING OTHERS WITHIN YOUR SPHERE IS GIVEN GRAND TRAINING IN THE FIGHTING OF EVIL ENTITIES BEFORE BEING ALLOWED TO RECEIVE. FOR SUCH A ONE IS MOST CERTAINLY BOMBARDED, AND MUST CERTAINLY HAVE THE GIFTS OF DISCERNING AND KNOWING, AS WELL AS MUCH PRACTICE IN SPIRITUAL WARFARE.

Remember, Precious Children, that some of those you might condemn to the electric chair might open up to higher teachings and truths in time. You cannot predict the direction of the heart. Would you deny another human being the right to spiritual evolvement? None of you have any reason to be within your sphere, save it be to evolve spiritually. YOU, WHO WOULD DENY ONE SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVOLVE SPIRITUALLY, ARE PLACING YOURSELVES IN THE STEAD OF GOD. DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE AND THUS JUDGED?

REMEMBER: MANY OF YOU ACCEPT THESE DESTRUCTIVE SEEDS AS YOUR OWN AND YOU GIVE PLACE FOR THEM TO GROW. REMEMBER: ONLY YOU CAN GIVE THEM A PLACE TO GROW.

Little Ones, remember that these evil spirit forms will frequently STALK the same person en masse, seeking to displace the soul and possess the body. IF FILLED OF GREAT DARKNESS, SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL WILL NO LONGER KNOW WHICH THOUGHTS ARE FROM SELF AND WHICH ARE NOT FROM SELF. THE POINT IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT CERTAIN THOUGHTS DO OR DO NOT COME FROM YOURSELF and QUICKLY DISMISS THOSE WHICH ARE NOT YOUR VERY OWN. GIVE THE NEGATIVE NO PLACE TO GROW WITHIN YOU. If you do find them growing, DO AS YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD TO CLEAN YOURSELF FROM THE SAME.

You all must remember that once these have their sights set on you for POSSESSION, they will "DOG" you. Be sure to start each day with prayer and meditation. DEDICATE EACH DAY TO THE WORKS OF CREATOR, ASKING FOR PROTECTION THROUGH THE ARMOR OF GOD AND LIGHT ENTITIES (ANGELS), AND THAT DIVINE WILL BE DONE IN ALL YOUR AFFAIRS. LIVE THE LAWS. Precious Children, continually seek to be an OPEN and CLEAN vessel that the LIGHT OF GOD might SHINE WITHIN AND WITHOUT YOU. DAILY, MAKE AMENDS TO ANYONE YOU HAVE OFFENDED. TELL NO LIES. LIVE TRUTH. Clean your vessel on a DAILY BASIS that these SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION have NO PLACE TO GROW within you. LIGHT FEEDS UPON LIGHT. DARKNESS UPON DARKNESS--IF TENDED.

PRECIOUS CHILDREN, YOU MUST KNOW HOW THE ENEMY OPERATES, OR YOU WILL NOT KNOW HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF. AT THIS TIME THERE ARE EVEN GREATER NUMBERS OF THESE "EVIL" ENTITIES WITHIN YOUR SPHERE. YOU MUST REMEMBER AT ALL TIMES THAT THE BATTLE IS "A BATTLE FOR YOUR VERY SOUL." It is extremely important that you be AWARE of what is happening and that you protect your PRECIOUS CHILDREN. Allow them to be NO audience to the HORROR, BLOOD and SEX, and DRUGS they are FEEDING you on your PROGRAMMED TELEVISION SETS. BELOVED CHILDREN, CEASE TO PAY HOMAGE TO THEIR WORKS. DO NOT PAY VISIT TO THEIR PICTURE SHOWS. MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CHILDREN KNOW THEIR MODUS OPERANDI. HUGE NUMBERS OF THEM ARE ABOUT POSSESSING AS MANY BODIES AS POSSIBLE. THIS IS A "WAR". WAKE UP! WAKE UP! THEY ARE OUT TO TOTALLY PREVENT THE SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION OF EACH OF YOU, EVEN UNTO THE VERY DESTRUCTION OF YOUR SOULS.

No longer give homage to their form of slavery. Learn to RECOGNIZE, TO KNOW which THOUGHTS are YOURS and which are not. PEOPLE, THE REAL WORLD IS THE WORLD OF SPIRIT. YOU ARE ENERGY BEINGS VISITING PHYSICAL FORMS. THE PHYSICAL IS HERE TODAY AND GONE TOMORROW.

Call upon us often for there are many, many of us here in these FINAL DAYS who have come to GIVE AID unto you, GOD'S SHEEP, LOST UNTO THE WHIRLWINDS OF SATAN. You must ask. We are forbidden by LAW to intervene without your EXPRESS PERMISSION. STUDY THIS CAREFULLY, FOR THERE IS MUCH TRUTH, HEREIN. IT IS FOR THE WISDOM, THE UNDERSTANDING, THE IN-LIGHT-ENMENT....THE SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION OF EACH OF YOU. FOR IF YOU ARE IN THE "KNOW", YOU CANNOT BE SO EASILY "DECEIVED". I AM MOSES.



Just a final note on THE EXPLOSIONS BENEATH LITTLE ROCK AND SURROUNDING AREA. Did you have any doubts as to what is really going on therein? Large numbers of troops are building up in expansive underground bases. PRECIOUS CHILDREN, THESE ARE NOT YOUR OWN AMERICAN TROOPS. You already have massive underground bases as large cities, yet they continue with the expanding. These intend to remain therein despite the re-structuring of the Earth LAND MASSES and the upcoming POLAR SHIFT. It matters not to these that they are at the very edges of the New Madrid Fault. It is their thinking that the whole fault will BLOW sooner rather than later. They work to do all they can to help the same along. And how was your day?


Source: THE PHOENIX LIBERATOR, January 5, 1993, Volume 21, Number 11.
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Ok, Heaven is not what you ones think it is. MOstly its the cosmos. World like this little world are prisons until souls become responsible. The planet is ascending into a higher way of doing things, of new experiences, which will include more mental capabilities, or more like learning to use your mind RIGHT, most use it wrong and have no idea they do this, except for ones who know how to practice the lower forms of "black magic"

Now, as far as HEAVEN Goes, it's any advanced evolutionary planet well into light and life, generously 5d on up. We are barely 4d here now. YOu ones must expand your consciousness. Heaven is not a party place with Jesus. Nor for those in new age, some mindless timeless bliss. There is work in heaven, I beings, work. all of them. Never stops but folks do move past money. Be about looking at the wonderful artwork coming into this world, by ones who REMEMBER who they are and where they have been.


Now, other than advancing evolutionary planets such as this sphere, there are CUSTOM built spheres were ARE the training worlds and management worlds and folks live on them also, both man and angels, and spirit beings et all. Perhaps some of you in your future careers in heaven will for a time being on the building teams of these special custom worlds.

Now below are some images I posted to my site today. at the bottom is a link to a Gary Tonge painting of building sphere worlds in young nebulas, the worlds of "heaven". You have to EARN the right to live on these, becoming moral et all. so here is a post I have been posting around here, and the mid section is what I had on my site. The mansion worlds spoken of in your bible are the lower sphere worlds of "heaven." You ones should be reading some of those selections in the Urantia Book thread, where I also placed these links today for them.

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Hi everyone, I just posted this to my site, another artist sort of like Gary Tonge, going to explore some more at a link within this. I posted this in my UB thread here also, the idea with the first one to help people visualize the idea of building massive custom worlds. This one shows an internal technology based sun. Perhaps these give a little view into "heaven." Man has such a poor idea of what it is. It really IS the cosmos itself, but there are these specially built worlds. Some well more than 100 times the size of earth. these worlds don't have a lot of oceans, so there is more space for folks, and having the best of technologies......

Hi all, I have posted Gary tonge's image of architectural world building. here is one by another artist. [link to phoenix-06.deviantart.com] This shows in internal heating system. Enlarge it. I have it as wall paper right now. this states the surface is cold, but many have warm surfaces with atmospheres too. Some of those BIG craft we see out by the sun, might look something like this on the inside. They proton blasts they give us sometimes, and I sense maybe another coming, the magnetosphere may need protons again, come from massive craft Esu and CM just label proton shooters...... You can image what sort of technology is in those!



Phoenix 6's Gallery. LOTS OF STUFF [link to phoenix-06.deviantart.com]



[link to phoenix-06.deviantart.com] This talk about a race traveling in "stasis" for a long period of time. The reason I bring this up, is that this world is going into a stasis, which is a suspension of life during which many things will occur. In this image, this is about some people putting them selves into stasis for some very long travel. I think the concept regards as space travel has been suggested in various sci fi movies.



[link to phoenix-06.deviantart.com] Shows how systems can be created also, and provided energy. Folks show your friends these things, because we need to people to look upward towards the possibilities.



Clicking on this link will bring up several artists. Click on the pics to take youself to their websites. That is how I found the Phoenix-06 above. [link to creativefan.com]

Ok Gary Tonge's sphere worlds being built in a Nebula.

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:relevant to my i:You ones calling yourselves christians, and shoot probably any other religion need to notice the words in this complete with the spiritual teaching near the end of it. Mods there are exactly NO limitations legally on the teachings of God, no copyrights on this.

This was given almost 20 years ago. This dear ones is HOW God helps, by giving YOU information to act upon. We still have the thugs in power. US of A has done nothing still. This includes below discussion about the "missing 13th amendment."

12/30/92 JESUS/SANANDA
Blessings unto you this day, Child. It is I, as you know me to be, Master Jesus. Many DENY my place within and shout loudly that others of you do likewise. THESE WHO SHOUT THE LOUDEST ARE THE MOST DEAF AND BLIND. I come with a voice as a feather upon the wind. It is the wind of the soul which "blows" ever so gently and those who will not STILL THE MIND will never HEAR, SEE or KNOW me. For it is through the quiet of the still that I speak.

Most of you will never hear me. It is for this reason, Cherished One, that I come speaking to you that you might be my voice, for if not for you and others around the world who sit still and listen, there would be no one to carry my messages. It matters not that there are many who sneer and bicker among themselves that it is not I who speaks. For these go both BLIND and DEAF. It is these who go as but fodder for the fire. I SAY UNTO EACH OF YOU, "BE STILL AND KNOW ME", FOR YOU WILL NOT FIND ME IN THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE OF A WORLD GONE AWRY. FOR LO, COME UNTO ME SEEKING TO KNOW ME AND YOU WILL. I HAVE NO PREFERENCE OF PERSONS, BUT TO HIM WHO HUMBLY SEEKS AND SERVES IS IT GIVEN.

Precious Children, know that the Antichrist knows no limits. No boundaries will keep him and his select from their plans of destruction, save it be the power of Creator. Satan and his servants never stop scheming of ways to subdue you. Their plans change by the minute. I warn you now. Forget not your systems of public transit. These are slated for ATTACK. The recent problems with the wings falling from some of your airplanes was no accident. THE SAME WAS PLANNED AS BUT ONE MANNER IN WHICH TO CRIPPLE YOU THROUGH FEAR. WATCH OUT FOR SITUATIONS OF SABOTAGE TO COME YOUR WAY IN YOUR SUBWAYS. For these same ones have as much in their plans. THAT WHICH HAS HERETOFORE BEEN LARGELY A SPIRITUAL WARFARE IS ABOUT TO BECOME A PHYSICAL WARFARE. These will not tolerate the idea that many of you might be FREE of their control. For there is a real, solid and strong patriot movement astir in your country.


For the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS (YOUR ZIONIST-SATANIST "SHADOW GOVERNMENT") AND THE CREATOR OF THE SAME, THE HOUSE OF ROCKEFELLER, HAS LONG BEEN IN CONTROL OF YOUR COUNTRY AND THESE WILL NOT GIVE UP CONTROL WITHOUT AN ALL-OUT FIGHT. Thus, you are faced with not only the grave probability of INTERNAL CONFUSION, but you have the threat of the same through EXTERNAL forces. THE SOVIET UNION COMMUNISTS OPERATING FROM WITHIN YOUR COUNTRY HAVE LOADED SADDAM HUSSEIN TO THE POINT OF OVERFLOWING WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONRY WITH WHICH TO MAKE WAR AGAINST YOU.


You, each of you, must open to the fact that the HOUSE OF ROCKEFELLER, the house of Satan himself, and his very elite have never had any other design than to wipe you out as a nation, bringing you to your knees under a Satanic ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. This GRAND CONSPIRACY HAS BEEN BUILDING WITH A GRAND FURY SINCE THE 20's. Once they gained control of the television media and the largest publishing houses, you fast fell deep within the pits of darkness. FOR WITHOUT AVENUES OF TRUTH, LIGHT CANNOT GET TO THE PEOPLE AND SOON ALL BEGIN TO PERISH IN DARKNESS. Well, thus it is with these Satanic ones, who have long controlled the media within your country and control the natural resources around the world, in collusion with other of their Satanist friends.

When you turn on your television sets and take a look at the leading "anchors" for the evening news, remember that you are looking at satanists. HOW DO THEY LOOK? ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE MAN ON THE STREET? WILL THESE TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE SATANISTS? Most likely not. For they are lost unto the glamour of Satan and his causes. They are blinded by the power and intrigue of self-importance. They count not as SIGNIFICANT their "LOVE OF THE MATERIAL". FOR THIS "LOVE OF THE MATERIAL" SEEMS INNOCENT ENOUGH TO MANY OF THEM. Nay, for it is this tool of Satan which has led them all asunder. It is these who are leading you and your children, and your children's children asunder. DO YOU NOT WONDER WHY YOUR NEWS CONTAINS NOTHING BUT BLOOD, SEX AND VIOLENCE, DRUGS, MORE BLOOD, SEX AND VIOLENCE? Wonder no more!

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP AND CALL A HALT TO THE SAME? Well, it will be never if these have any say. Their plans for you are TOTAL SLAVERY. Those among the very SECRET Council on Foreign Relations have created and pushed without ceasing the grand CONSPIRACY to OVERTHROW YOUR GOVERNMENT. THEY HAVE CONTROLLED ALMOST EVERY PRESIDENT, AS WELL AS GRAND NUMBERS WITHIN THE HIGHEST ECHELONS OF YOUR GOVERNMENT, FOR THE LARGEST PART OF SEVEN DECADES THEY HAVE GIVEN AWAY YOUR MILITARY MIGHT TO PRACTICALLY EVERY RADICAL, DEVELOPING NATION AROUND THE WORLD. THESE SAME ONES HAVE STRIPPED YOU CLEAN OF YOUR MILITARY HARDWARE AND GAVE UNPRECEDENTED MILITARY PROWESS TO THE SOVIET UNION. IN ADDITION, YOU HAVE GIVEN UNTO THE SOVIET UNION BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF "FREE" MONIES OR LOANED THEM BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS AT VERY LOW INTEREST RATES, THE GREATEST MAJORITY OF WHICH WAS NOT REPAID. YOU HAVE SUPPORTED THEM WITH VERY LOW PRICED GRAIN YEAR AFTER YEAR, EVEN AT THE RISK OF GOING HUNGRY YOURSELVES.

All the while, they have schemed ways in which to combine your two countries and to collapse Europe and the rest of the world under one umbrella. Now, they have succeeded for all practical purposes. For you have the Soviets so imbedded in many areas of your government that in many, many areas you have now more Soviets than Americans. These (the KGB) have taken over your INTELLIGENCE services. They have gained control of your JUDICIARY system. They have taken over your SPACE programs and your UNDERGROUND bases. They have gained control of your COMMUNICATION systems and your SATELLITE systems. They have the capability to render you powerless through their superior weaponry and their cosmonaut space platforms, which can CONTROL WEATHER PATTERNS, and cause EARTHQUAKES.

HENRY KISSINGER, THE NUMBER ONE TORCHBEARER FOR THE HOUSE OF ROCKEFELLER, HAS BOASTED, "THEY CREATED ME."
Well, they not only CREATED Henry Kissinger, they molded the hearts and minds of each of you, your children and your children's children. FOR THEY HAVE STEADILY FED YOU STREAMS OF LIES AND HALF-TRUTHS FOR DECADES. SO LONG, IN FACT, THAT VERY FEW OF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW OF THAT WHICH IS TRUTH. YOU HAVE INGESTED A STEADY STREAM OF LIES. YOU ARE LIVING A LIE.

Precious Child, print that which your dictionary states of one House of Rockefeller.
From the Random House College Dictionary, it is stated: 1. John D(avidson), 1839-1937, and his son John D(avidson) Jr., 1874-1960, U.S. oil magnates and philanthropists. 2. Nelson A(ldrich), 1908-1979, governor of New York 1959-77 (son of John D. Rockefeller, Jr.)

Do these Satanists go about the printing of the REAL TRUTHS? Do they talk of the billions they poured into Russia to finance WAR and REVOLT in that country? Do they tell of the billions upon billions they have STOLEN from you and poured into Communist countries around the world to aid in the growth of Communism? They describe themselves as PHILANTHROPISTS. You see the same written by one of their own Antichrist publishers. THUS, I ASK YOU, IS THE BELIEVING IN THE SEEING?

Precious Children, that which your forefathers fought to win for you has been stripped from you, for you have ceased to be VIGILANT. THESE WHO FOUGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOMS KNEW THAT WHICH WAS BEFORE EACH OF YOU. THEY CREATED A CONSTITUTION ASSURING YOUR RIGHTS, SUCH THAT YOU MIGHT CONTINUE TO BE FREE. PRECIOUS CHILDREN, YOUR CONSTITUTION NOWADAYS IS LITTLE MORE THAN A JOKE, for these who are told to uphold the same and swear that they will do so, are the ones who scheme the hardest to find ways to get around the same.
WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT LAWYERS AND MEMBERS OF THE BRITISH MONARCHY WERE FAST TO BURY YOUR REAL 13TH AMENDMENT?

BECAUSE THEY WERE DETERMINED TO WEASEL THEIR WAY INTO TOTAL CONTROL AND DOMINION OVER EACH OF YOU. Very few of you know that your real 13th amendment forbade that those with TITLES OF NOBILITY HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE. Precious Children, this does mean lawyers! Attorneys! These, in collusion with the British Crown, were fast to rip the same from your Constitution with the advent of the Civil War and replaced the same with the amendment forbidding slavery. All is a matter of record of your side. IT WAS THESE SAME ONES WHO NOW CONTROL YOU WHO WERE FORBIDDEN BY AMENDMENT TO YOUR CONSTITUTION TO DO THE SAME. FOR IT WAS KNOWN THAT THESE WOULD SEEK TO FIND WAYS AROUND THE LAWS THAT WERE GIVEN TO PROTECT YOU. PRECIOUS CHILDREN, YOU WERE GIVEN A CONSTITUTION TO PROTECT YOU. YOU WERE GIVEN A CONSTITUTION THAT YOU MIGHT BE FREE. [Editor's note: See the 12/15/92 issue of THE PHOENIX LIBERATOR for the fascinating story on the real 13th Amendment.]

In addition you need know that your income tax is ILLEGAL. IT WAS NEVER RATIFIED BY THE STATES. Yet, your Zionist Elite pushed the same through as legal and, to this day, you are all paying for something which is a FRAUD. Precious One, print the name of this printing company where all interested might secure for self these thoroughly researched documents substantiating this FRAUD.

COMMON SENSE PRESS
P.O. BOX 1544
BILLINGS, MONTANA, 59103
The IRS is an unconstitutional agency. It is an ILLEGAL arm of the KGB. It is a tool used by the Zionist elite to suck each of you dry of what little you do have to survive. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE ONE AMONG YOU WHO SHOULD HAVE EVER GONE TO JAIL FOR REFUSING TO PAY INCOME TAXES, FOR THESE TAXES ARE AN ILLEGAL FRAUD. [Editor's note: For an in-depth history and discussion of the Federal Reserve/IRS scam, plus general background information about The Truth behind our modern economic malaise, see the PHOENIX JOURNALS: SPIRAL TO ECONOMIC DISASTER (#4), PRIVACY IN A FISHBOWL (#10), and YOU CAN SLAY THE DRAGON (#16). See back page for ordering information.]

It is only you, the uninformed juror, who sends these innocent ones to jail, for you know not that, according to your Constitution, you do not have to support UNJUST or FRAUDULENT laws. YOUR JUDICIARY SYSTEM WAS INDEED CREATED SUCH THAT YOU, THE JUROR, WOULD HAVE THE FINAL SAY AGAINST UNJUST LAWS. From the beginning you were given the ultimate say. IN FACT, IT IS YOUR DUTY TO VOTE "NOT GUILTY" WHEN ANY OF YOU IS BURDENED WITH AN UNJUST LAW. THESE WHO DISOBEY UNJUST LAWS CANNOT BE SENT TO JAIL IF YOU VOTE "NOT GUILTY". Precious Ones, any of you wishing to know more about informed jurors can receive of the same from the above Montana address.

CHILDREN, YOU MUST AWAKEN TO YOUR DUTY TO UPHOLD THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT. YOU MUST CEASE TO TAKE AS YOUR SENTENCE UNJUST AND FRAUDULENT LAWS. YOUR CONSTITUTION WAS DESIGNED SUCH THAT YOU, THE CITIZEN, WOULD BE ASSURED RIGHTS WHICH ARE INALIENABLE, GOD-GIVEN, NOT TO BE SOLD OR BOUGHT. These rights are clearly delineated in your BILL OF RIGHTS, such that there is no mis-understanding.

Now you have a government which has become OPPRESSIVE. You have a group which has SEIZED your government and has CONSPIRED to UNDERMINE you, as a nation, even unto the DISSOLVING OF YOUR CONSTITUTION AND THE TAKING OF YOUR VERY LAST FREEDOMS. EVEN UNTO THE QUARTERING OF FOREIGN TROOPS WITHIN YOUR VERY MIDST. EVEN UNTO THE TAKING AWAY OF YOUR FREEDOMS OF THE PRESS. EVEN UNTO THE TAKING OVER OF YOUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, WHICH WAS FORBIDDEN AT THE TIME YOUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED. Little Ones, your freedoms have been slowly usurped such that you have very few remaining. THOSE WHO HAVE SEIZED YOUR COUNTRY ARE AN EVIL LOT WHO DEMAND THAT YOUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS BE DESTROYED AND THAT YOU BE PLACED UNDER A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

What will you do to KNOW TRUTH? What will you do to come to grips with the horror that is fast upon you? What will you do to come out of the BLINDNESS which has taken hold of you? I say, "You who will not do so much as raise a finger to help your own selves from the ditch shall PERISH; if not in this world, then in the world to come." FOR YOU WHO WILL DO NOTHING DESERVE NOTHING, AND WOE UNTO YOU, FOR THIS SHALL BE YOUR JUST REWARD. THERE IS NOT A GREATER BATTLE GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAN THE BATTLE FOR YOUR SOUL. AND THE battle IS A GREAT ONE, INDEED. YOU WILL EITHER RAISE UP OUT OF YOUR STUPOR AND FIGHT OR YOU SHALL LOSE OF YOUR FREEDOMS.

Speak not in this direction that you have seen or heard NOTHING of what is going on, for you have been warned and forewarned. YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN AS MUCH THROUGH THIS SOURCE. AND OTHER TRUTHS ARE COMING UNTO YOU FROM MANY DIRECTIONS NOW. Enough is enough. Come not unto me with your WHINING and COMPLAINING when the going gets ROUGHER, for when you could have done, you have done NOTHING. When you could have RAISED a voice, you KEPT SILENT. Come not unto me when these seek to ERADICATE you from the face of the Earth. For this is their GRAND DESIGN. I tell you that you have an OPPRESSIVE government running your country, and that the same is one COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS.
THINK NOT THAT MR. CLINTON IS ABOUT HELPING ANY OF YOU UNLESS YOU FORCE HIM TO DO SO. HE IS A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS. HE IS NOT YOUR REAL PRESIDENT, ANYWAY. HE IS A LIAR, AND HIS PRESIDENCY IS A LIE. Believe not one word you hear from his mouth as regards grand plans, for he will do exactly as he is told to do by the HOUSE OF ROCKEFELLER, or else.

WE are growing very weary on this side by those of you who insist that "GOD WILL DO IT", or "I'LL JUST PRAY, AND LET GOD TAKE CARE OF IT". WELL, YOU CAN THROW THAT KIND OF THINKING INTO THE FIREPLACE AND BE OF THE BURNING OF THE SAME, FOR GOD WILL NOT BE OF THE DOING FOR YOU THAT WHICH YOU CAN DO FOR SELF. THE ANTICHRIST HAS WOVEN FAST INTO YOUR BELIEF SYSTEMS AND HAS TAUGHT YOU TO BELIEVE IN "MAGICAL THINKING". You have allowed the same, for you have sat back and waited to be FED, FED, FED by those who do not know the TRUTH from a LIE. YOU ARE CAUGHT IN THE WHIRLWINDS OF THE LIES OF THE HOUSE OF ROCKEFELLER AND OTHER OF SATAN'S SERVANTS, AND SUCH IS YOUR CHOICE. YOU ARE NOW IN DEEP FAT AND YOU WILL FIGHT OR BURN A QUICK DEATH, FOR THE FIRE IS MOVING IN ON YOU FAST.

This is enough on which to ponder this day. Take of it and do as you will. But you had best know that all herein is a stern warning for those of you who will listen. THE PATIENCE GROWS VERY THIN ON THIS SIDE. THE DAYS OF "LOLLY CODDLING" ARE OVER. IT IS "PUT-UP OR SHUT-UP TIME". I AM, AS YOU KNOW ME TO BE, MASTER JESUS, THE CHRISTED ONE.



Source: THE PHOENIX LIBERATOR, January 12, 1993, Volume 21, Number 12.
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Everyone goes back to Our Creator after departing this earth. You stand before Father God and you'll have a little talk...then you are either on the bus or off the bus.

The whole reason why we are in the flesh is to make a decision. Christ or not. People complicate it,
but that's pretty much why we are here. To make a decision.

Yep, yep, yep...

peace

NIP, Your poll really didn't hit it correctly.

"A" for effort...just sayin'
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Everyone goes back to Our Creator after departing this earth. You stand before Father God and you'll have a little talk...then you are either on the bus or off the bus.

The whole reason why we are in the flesh is to make a decision. Christ or not. People complicate it,
but that's pretty much why we are here. To make a decision.

Yep, yep, yep...

peace

NIP, Your poll really didn't hit it correctly.

"A" for effort...just sayin'
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Not quite right either. YOu have guardian angels and courts you stand before, not the Father. The poll served its purpose, I don't see how to get rid of it at this point.

You have simplified it. What of the people who never heard of Christ? The whole story is considerably more complex. This is a world of many types of folks incarnating here. I don't have time to repeat this here.
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Doesn't matter what you believe.

Universal law will sort things out just fine.
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Since when is "Christianity" a religion?

Have you ever heard anyone say they're religion was "Christianity?"

That's just stupid.

How about looking up the word, "religion" sometime - I dare you.
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Christianity is NOT a "religion"...it's a "reality"!
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Everyone goes back to Our Creator after departing this earth. You stand before Father God and you'll have a little talk...then you are either on the bus or off the bus.

The whole reason why we are in the flesh is to make a decision. Christ or not. People complicate it,
but that's pretty much why we are here. To make a decision.

Yep, yep, yep...

peace

NIP, Your poll really didn't hit it correctly.

"A" for effort...just sayin'
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Not quite right either. YOu have guardian angels and courts you stand before, not the Father. The poll served its purpose, I don't see how to get rid of it at this point.

You have simplified it. What of the people who never heard of Christ? The whole story is considerably more complex. This is a world of many types of folks incarnating here. I don't have time to repeat this here.
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I ain't goin' for that!
The Bible says different!
I'll go with Father God's instructions!
Not man's.

The Bible says that The Word of God will be taught throughout the "whole world". But, let's say, one does not
hear, and know about Christ. Then he is not held accountable.
Basically, I call it "a free ride" to live with Yeshua and Father God throughout eternity. Didn't have to go through
this flesh.

After Christ was crucified, during those three days before He arose...He went to those who had not the teaching of Christ...those who were born before He was born.
They had to make a decision whether to follow Him into
the Arms of Father God, or not.

Now, you can relate this to a child that doesn't live outside the womb...they immediately go back to Father God.
Unaccountable for the "decision making" we must do while
we are in the flesh. They get to go straight into
Father God's Arms without having to live in this flesh relm.

Just sayin'.

peace
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Ok, Christians are getting awfully nasty here on GLP, in a way they were not even a year ago. Guess you ones are feeling the end times too. And the beginning of the new times.

Now, let me point out the one thing that bothers me the most HERE and other forums and in my life personally as long as I can remember. Now why it IS true, that Jesus Christ is the only way to the FATHER, you ones do not understand how or why. So I am going to ask one of my favorite questions and see what answers show up.

What about the Muzzies as they called here, the buddhists, the taoists, the so called atheists, the hindu's etc. What happens to them? They are born in culture that have never heard of Jesus Christ. I am posting a poll but also wish commentary.
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Too bad the Christians can even understand their own bible, having been turned aside to fables instead. Nothing like understanding the original text in the original context.

The original non-english text has 3 words which were translated (and i use that tern loosely) into the word Hell.
tartarus = temp punishment place for some angels (no people here)
Sheol/hades = Dead
Ghenna = place where dead bodies of executed criminals thrown during millenial kingdom

Where do we ALL go when we die...we are dead and the bible says no planning or activity occur in the grave (and obviously no suffering)

Those who believe now will be resurrected at his return, those who do not will be after the 1000 years, judged, hurled dead into the lake of fire for 'the eons on the eons', two subsequent ages in other words.

After GODS purpose for the ages is completed, all will be given eternal life and belief, this is the consumation. What happens during the next 2 ages, Christ must become all in all (of the creation), when this is accomplished he hands the whole thing over to the father and GOD becomes all in all.

Who will be working with Christ over the next 2 eons to accomplish this work? Those who were predestined for this use according to GODS purpose, that would be the new ruling body of the creation, the body of christ.

This is who paul is referring to as the elect, it is us who will be 'snatched away in clouds' not the modern day pharisees known as the christians, their beliefs are the apostasy and fables paul was referring to.

Given the number of those today who embrace the evangel of paul the rapture will go unnoticed as all but a tiny number of christians will remain. The purpose of 'in clouds' by the way is to mask our departure, read the NT where christ ascended and you will get an idea what the event will look like.

How can this be? Simple, this is GODS creation and he would have all men to be saved, and he provided his son's action on the cross for this purpose. Your belief or acceptance of this means nothing because this is not your universe to run and he will have his way, just go with it.

If you believe now, know that this is simply the gift of knowledge of something which is already a fact. Most are not given this gift now (yet) but all will have it eventually, and eternal life.

If you think your religion makes you acceptable to GOD or others that don't participate in your religion are going to 'Hell' you are in for a big surprise because you are going to spend eternity with all of them and GOD.

All of this information was obtained from the original language text of the books of the bible, by the way, so please don't quote bible verses back to me in english about why i am wrong etc. It took me 25 years of wading through christian crap to get to this point of understanding.

Try reading the concordant bible, the transalation methodology pairs one original language word to exactly one english word, the other 'translations' are as much interpreted for you as they are translated and this is asource of much confusion, that and hard hearts.
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Be prepared- Midnight approaches-AA Michael

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The capillaries of time are unravelling for the flaccid structures in your earthly world as perturbances tear asunder that which is already bent and breaking under the weight of corruption and greed. The cannibals who are your worldly elite are biting the dust as they quiver now in the knowing of what transpires before them. Full awareness is now being brought to those who must make the final choices as the helm is primed to collapse. The bitter end for many is close at hand now and the raging tempest of their own virulent deeds will parade before them as they descend. For theirs is a descent by choice. Do not allow the eyes of fear to stare at you beloveds for only if you are one of them will you be consumed by the void that awaits.


The call from Source has been given and all hands are moving now behind the curtains of your mortal world in final preparation for the unveiling. O yes beloveds an unveiling is taking place at many different levels now and soon man will come face to face with his Creator. Many of you have the tendency to feel that dynamic changes will not occur in your lifetime. This is indeed not the case; for unless you are close to mortal transition you will experience the global changes that are evolving into a predicament of universal proportions. This is ordained to be and not in the least unexpected. Though your mortal understanding may be poor, the spirits of those ensouled are aware at the essential level. Many will be shocked into their spirit; meaning, that as the events unfold the awe of the effects will actually jar into awakening many souls. Yet the strident nature of the revelations will leave many without their bodies. Yes beloveds a time of great fear is at hand but only for those who have shunned the understanding shared by we your celestial friends for many generations.


I do not wish you to say that Michael is the bearer of doom and gloom or that this scribe has contrived this information. These revelations have been given before but as the sequence of time unravels and the moments creep to the glory of change, a reminder becomes necessary. FOR AS THE STROKE OF FINALITY breaches the quietude of your accepted existence you must know that your world will never be the same again. Start becoming comfortable with change. Train yourself to adapt and adjust for there will be a period of time within which you will be living in uncertainty as the bowels of the earth cleanses itself and as the stormy structures in place regurgitate that which has choked the very life of balance. I refer to the dark brotherhood and their insidious games. Be prepared to see new faces and to tune your recognition to the lighted beings who will offer their helping hands to pull you ones on earth out of the tempestuous circumstances which currently shroud your world. Be assured that during these times you are not alone. We are keeping check and know each and every one of you for each soul’s imprint is recorded in the book of life.


Open your hearts and minds now for truly this is a time which requires you to exercise your God given intelligence to make choices that will be of benefit to you. For the choices you make will determine how you deal with the onslaught of changes imminently poised on the steps of your world.


Believe when I say that the changes that are occurring and will occur are necessary to lead you into the land of the living for surely you who are knowing of God must recognise that your world is dying. Man has assigned his very world to death. It is the mercy of the Father which speaks now in the intervention that will lead to the survival of the earth and those in readiness for ascension. Let there be no doubt that what is occurring and what is to occur is caused by the hand of man. The very one you call God is intervening at the call and cry of his children, foremost the earth herself. Call it a divine rescue. Make no mistake however, these changes will manifest as part of the cosmic order which is also eminently occurring on other planets as part of a universal ascension process.


Beloveds a gentler tone will I take that you may know that what is to transpire culls that which has so many of you suffering and ill at ease in this your world. The events are necessary for you ones to see who you have allowed to rule you. After you have come into the shocking awareness you will begin to feel the gentle and loving breath of your Creator manifest in your world. He has always been with you but you have not acknowledged Him. No more. Eternity is calling and you must answer now or once again postpone the claiming of your heritage which will lead inevitably to a long and winding path back home. I ask at this time that you think with your higher mind and relinquish the thoughts of the ego which will seek to keep you sedated in the false belief that all is well and all shall be well. Indeed all shall end well!!


Beloved children the Angelic realm is closer than you think and we are waiting upon many to answer the nudges we give so that we can pull you truly into the light and assist you on your journey.


Know that regardless of your choices we shall continue to shower you with our love BUT we cannot choose your salvation for you. Only you can make that choice.


Michael come in the Light to bid you take care during the tumultuous times ahead and to prepare for the great rising.
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Now here is a marvelous teaching of what you ONES should be seeking from AA Uriel thru Hazel. Now for Catholics and some others, you may have learned a term, ABBA FATHER. It is the ABBA FATHER THAT IS WITHIN YOU WHICH YOU SHOULD SEEK and then you will NOT need man's religions.
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The Necessary Pilgrimage-AA Uriel
I bring today a new perspective to the concept of Pilgrimage. Its intonation and meaning for you on mortal grounds is a journey to foreign and far places well esteemed for historical holy events. Many travel long distances to places well documented as being the holding places where epic events manifested.


The question is, why does man feel the need to partake in pilgrimages? Reasons may vary from seeking inspiration to discovering one’s self, the need to experience ‘holy’ energy, participating in re-enactments or just being present where renowned figures walked, worked or lived. The enjoyment or enrichment which man may receive from such pilgrimages is by no means undervalued. Some pilgrimages may have indelible impact on those who participate. The truth however is, comparatively speaking, physical pilgrimages yields little in respect of mortal transformation. It becomes a story for one to tell later on rather than an experience that has profound and enduring results.


I am here to enlighten you to another view. Your mortal sojourn does indeed have a spiritual bias. It is intended that during your mortal incarnation you will discover your true self- being the God of you, your authentic identity and cultivate a relationship with the God incarnate. A spiritual evolution will begin which will enable you to be placed on your spiritual path using the physical body as a vehicle to attain higher consciousness. The whole purpose of your life on earth is to rediscover your link to God and to seek inner guidance as to how He fits into your purpose on earth. Many times you have heard that the earth provides a learning ground where you can establish yourself as a God-being and seek and earn God mastery.


You may certainly seek inspiration from past events and even benefit from the recollection or the witnessing; but observation of what has transpired in times past will seldom provide the food for learning necessary for you to discover your identify and live your purpose. That can only be accomplished through the taking of an ‘inner pilgrimage’. You as children of God bear holy terrain within you. It is this terrain that you must necessarily traverse as you take that pilgrimage from the physical dimension of your being to the spiritual essence –your soul’s source.


This inner pilgrimage offers a wealth of opportunities as you journey to rediscover your source or what we shall call your highest self. You will have to transcend familiar terrain of the physical and breach barriers to higher understanding before you are able to begin the exploration of the celestial part of you. This dear children is a wondrous pilgrimage to take. It can last as long as you desire it to. As you journey inwards the path can become difficult at times in that there may be impediments along the way that will slow your journey or discourage further progression. Yet it is the most rewarding journey you shall ever take. This travel will cost you nothing, except time, energy, desire and love.


What you will become re acquainted with is in fact knowledge well known to spirit which re-awakes within you as your journey continues. You will meet along the way many who are willing to guide you deeper and deeper into your true consciousness; that you may eventually find your dwelling place in a domain which offers you complete balance, love and light. Never will you be a lonely pilgrim for when you initiate the inner pilgrimage you enter into a flow of energy that if sustained with eventually fulfil you. You will come to know the great life force you hold within and this will usher feelings of completeness.


Where does the pilgrimage lead you to eventually? Simply, the Kingdom of God which dwells within each of God’s children; a non physical arena where bliss, inner harmony, purity and unclouded love exist; where indescribable peace reigns and where you will glow in the knowledge and comfort of your immortality.


I trust that you are able to understand now how necessary the inner pilgrimage is; for you cannot discover your self or align with all that is holy unless you find and know yourself. You can only accomplish this through the taking of that inner journey- the one true and decisive pilgrimage that each child of God will have to take before he/she reunites with the Source.


Uriel is here in the reflection of God’s light. He brings the helmet of peace and tells the children of God that the way to paradise requires the taking of an intense inner pilgrimage.


Blessed be thee who can understand and know the truth of these words.
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Please dear ones of you who keeping looking the sky for Christ learn from this and look INSIDE OF YOU. :blooming rose: Nebadonia is the "Holy Spirit" , Mother God of Nebadon, our local universe, our sector of the wide cosmos. She bestows MIND on Nebadon and creates your guardian angels, the Seraphim. (Do not confuse Nebadonia with the "spirit of truth" bestowed after Michael of Nebadon left the Dual Incarnation of 2000 years ago.).


Let the Christ Within be Risen-Nebadonia [link to www.abundanthope.net]


Each spirit is endowed with the character of God. It abides in its inherent energy being the Christ energy. It markets itself through the human body. It offers its wares through the human mind. It is a dormant energy until ignited by man’s desire to know himself and discover his roots.


The pattern of your life bears the blueprint of the Father’s presence; for all His creation is mirrored in Him. He respires through your very body and sits in the energetic centres of your physical form. He is the host of your spirit and the seat of your soul. He kindles the light of Himself with the hope that you will seize the opportunity to ignite the flame of God within and carry His torch on your journey through transitory territory to learn and ‘become’. He remains always your inner mentor and guide. He desires to be alive truly in the midst of your evolution that through every moment of your unfolding He can hold your hands and keep you steadfast and sure on your path towards Godhood. He is the living example that you are required to follow; yet His lead is never without, only within.


The Christ is registered within your form and it is your desire to know Him and be like Him that awakens greater dimensions of Him within you. The delights of the Christ within await you that you may partake of His sovereign flavours and begin to accept Him as yourself. His energy, being the energy of spirit subordinates the flesh and unless you are attuned physically through your energetic centres you will experience Him through the mind. God is all Mind and it is at this level that you must endeavour to connect with Him before His essence is translated into governance of your emotional and mental perspectives.


He enjoins with your mind offering you His thoughts that you may think with Him and that your thoughts and His become one, without differentiation. Do you not see dearly beloved children that you must reunite with your God mind, being the very Mind of God which finds a repository within you and you must become one with that Mind. It is then that you will truly comprehend what it means to be one with God. Creation started at the level of Mind and as a co-creator you must return to that Mind to experience God. I trust this makes sense to you.


When you can think as the Christ does and these thoughts reflect themselves in your outward conduct and creations only then can you truly measure the extent of your appreciation of Oneness. Nurturing the presence of the inner Christ is imperative for ascension. You cannot do this without Him. You are not independent of God. The Christ you knew on the cross rose to reunite with His Father in Oneness after He completed his bestowal. The Christ within you must also rise if you intend to continue your journey through flesh into the purity of your very being to become One with God.


Christ is Light and light must always be your choice. The tendency to look at events on the outer plane as if darkness prevails there alone must be discarded. Perceptions of darkness initiates from within. Go within first and foremost and through alignment with the inner Christ cleanse the dark structures which create inner disharmony and impedes inner peace. How can your feel the living Christ working within you if you entertain dark thoughts, feelings and agendas? The journey into the deepest life of your soul may be a gradual one, but you are required to act with honesty in assessing where you are spiritually. Your spirit will never lie. Words are meaningless and intent must find its conduit through positive actions, reflections and creations.


This is a call to all- that the Christ within each of you must be risen that you can dwell in absolute truth. The Christ is the candle in your heart and will burn eternally if you allow Him to. He will indeed be your vision for He is your light. He will be your knowing for He is your mind. Yet He desires you to be the heart of God in this your lonely world; that if each desire, choose and work towards being the heart of God, the tune of unconditional love shall become the foundation for the rhythm of life. Call for the Christ within to enfold you in His consciousness and dwell in the stillness of his core to be refreshed, enthused and enlightened. Then give Him permission to be the life within you and allow him to live through you and surely then the Christ within shall arise.


O immaculate children of God why do I use this word for thee? Simply that is who you are. You have sullied the image of yourself through your own perceptions and in so doing you live in accordance with what you perceive; not the knowledge of God that you are One with Him and perfect as He is. If only you can fathom and hold this knowledge as your own, you will move mountains to accord with the truth. Be ye like unto Him for He is the cloth from which you were made.


Blessings
Nebadonia

PS. Dear Ones, every universe has a FAther MOther God Trinity representation. Michael of Nebadon has as his parents, The Universal Father and the Eternal Son. Thus thru HIM come the first 2 persons of the Trinity. Mother Spirit, is Nebadonia of Nebadon, and she is the Daughter of the 3rd Person of the Trinity, the Infinite Spirit.

Now, some of you have heard of Earth Mother, often called GAIA. She is a daughter of Nebadonia. Gaia has mothered you all for a very long time. Pay her homage for that. She lies greatly saddened still for how her children have used and abused her and her body, the planet. :sad gaia:


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