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Confusion of the languages at Babel was caused by Earth undergoing an electromagnetic disturbance!!

 
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"The particular myth that's been organizing this talk, and in a way the whole series, is the story of the Tower of Babel in the Bible. The civilization we live in at present is a gigantic technological structure, a skyscraper almost high enough to reach the moon. It looks like a single world-wide effort, but it's really a deadlock of rivalries; it looks very impressive, except that it has no genuine human dignity. For all its wonderful machinery, we know it's really a crazy ramshackle building, and at any time may crash around our ears. What the myth tells us is that the Tower of Babel is a work of human imagination, that its main elements are words, and that what will make it collapse is a confusion of tongues. All had originally one language, the myth says. The language is not English or Russian or Chinese or any common ancestor, if there was one. It is the language that makes Shakespeare and Pushkin authentic poets, that gives a social vision to both Lincoln and Gandhi. It never speaks unless we take the time to listen in leisure, and it speaks only in a voice too quiet for panic to hear. And then all it has to tell us, when we look over the edge of our leaning tower, is that we are not getting any nearer heaven, and that it is time to return to earth. [p.98]"
— Northrop Frye (The Educated Imagination.)
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HT - you and I agree on just about everything except that Christ *IS* the escape, the ticket to leave and do it quickly. One day, we're going to have to hash it out again.
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God did it and it resulted in actual languages, the ones spoken by people all over the world today.
Simple. Elegant. Truth.
No brain scrambling EM goofiness.
 Quoting: Isaiah2620 1316370


This is the kind of stance that inclines people to doubt christians' intelligence. Does it diminish God's might or glory or whatever for us to seek understanding of the mechanism by which He does this or that? If we held onto this mentality, we'd still be using leeches and bloodletting to try and cure diseases caused by bacteria.

Another example: Regarding the second coming, if scripture tells us He comes "with clouds", does that automatically *have* to mean the common atmospheric vapor accumulations we see in our skies daily, or couldn't those "clouds" just as likely be the magnetic "interstellar fluff" that's been discussed here the past year?
Thread: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment


peace
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Who does'nt want us back?

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Who doesn't want us to remember and then leave?
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bump
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HT - you and I agree on just about everything except that Christ *IS* the escape, the ticket to leave and do it quickly. One day, we're going to have to hash it out again.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


We're not that far off on the christ issue my friend!!

Did a being from another world come here with a message that love will bring to halt the wheel of negative karma, and TPTB of Earth at that time killed him for it?

Yes, no doubt!!

Was he the son of the OT god, who came here to sacrifice himself so that humans couldn't be held accountable for our actions if we just believe?

Absolutely not!!

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HT - you and I agree on just about everything except that Christ *IS* the escape, the ticket to leave and do it quickly. One day, we're going to have to hash it out again.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


We're not that far off on the christ issue my friend!!

Did a being from another world come here with a message that love will bring to halt the wheel of negative karma, and TPTB of Earth at that time killed him for it?

Yes, no doubt!!

Was he the son of the OT god, who came here to sacrifice himself so that humans couldn't be held accountable for our actions if we just believe?

Absolutely not!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Well, tonight is not the night for me, unfortunately!

We'll start our own thread one of these days
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well it all seems a lot more plausable than that crap i read in the bible.

i have to say though im not convinced and you sort of lost me about half way.

but we all see things in a different light, perhaps you could tell us what this means to you in your own words.
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And these are just a few people who happened to be recorded.
Think of all the other (maybe hundreds or thousands) that this might be happening to but they are NOT being recorded.
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Good post !... ..

Think you are on to something !

Has anyone else here read...

'The God's of Eden' by William Bramley ?

Along with..

'Our Ancestors came from outer space' by Maurice Chautelain and certainly 'The lost book of Enki' by Zacharia sitchin

They are essential reading...

I subscribe to Charles Fort's notion that 'we are property'

I also hold that it is strange and unusual treatment to be dumped here on earth and not know our celestial origin, as though we are condemned, or imprisoned.

Are those who 'maintain the prison' instructed not to communicate with the in-mates ?... or are we just treated with contempt because we are not worthy of respect... after all is it not true that the very worst of us seem to be in charge here on earth ?

Religious dogma is the enemy of free thought... and it is the main force behind that which embarrasses us as a species... If we could actually somehow 'turn off' the religi-tards drivel, perhaps we would have some chance of advancing as a species together...
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And these are just a few people who happened to be recorded.
Think of all the other (maybe hundreds or thousands) that this might be happening to but they are NOT being recorded.
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It has been happening all over the world.
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HT - you and I agree on just about everything except that Christ *IS* the escape, the ticket to leave and do it quickly. One day, we're going to have to hash it out again.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


We're not that far off on the christ issue my friend!!

Did a being from another world come here with a message that love will bring to halt the wheel of negative karma, and TPTB of Earth at that time killed him for it?

Yes, no doubt!!

Was he the son of the OT god, who came here to sacrifice himself so that humans couldn't be held accountable for our actions if we just believe?

Absolutely not!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Well, tonight is not the night for me, unfortunately!

We'll start our own thread one of these days
 Quoting: Greg_B.



Looking forwards to it!!

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"My best guess again-about 6 feet of earth between you and the outside world.Afterwards wait till the truly insane(unsheltered) die off.They will not be people you want to see or deal with.

So this is the zombie apocalypse?
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lmao

I got over zombies after the 2nd grade. Do you have something to add or don't you to this thread?
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Sorry if it came off as flip. It is actually the only thing I have ever seen anywhere that made any sense to me with regard to the concept of zombies. While you may have gotten over zombies in 2nd grade, Hollywood continues to work the theme; and there are huge zombie street parties every year now in many major cities. Is it really so far fetched to picture these people as 'the living dead'?
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Religious dogma is the enemy of free thought... and it is the main force behind that which embarrasses us as a species... If we could actually somehow 'turn off' the religi-tards drivel, perhaps we would have some chance of advancing as a species together...
 Quoting: Perception.Primary


Acceptance and tolerance of these types is what would probably save the species. They're still your brothers and sisters. End the divisions.
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Good post !... ..

Think you are on to something !

Has anyone else here read...

'The God's of Eden' by William Bramley ?

Along with..

'Our Ancestors came from outer space' by Maurice Chautelain and certainly 'The lost book of Enki' by Zacharia sitchin

They are essential reading...

I subscribe to Charles Fort's notion that 'we are property'

I also hold that it is strange and unusual treatment to be dumped here on earth and not know our celestial origin, as though we are condemned, or imprisoned.

Are those who 'maintain the prison' instructed not to communicate with the in-mates ?... or are we just treated with contempt because we are not worthy of respect... after all is it not true that the very worst of us seem to be in charge here on earth ?

Religious dogma is the enemy of free thought... and it is the main force behind that which embarrasses us as a species... If we could actually somehow 'turn off' the religi-tards drivel, perhaps we would have some chance of advancing as a species together...
 Quoting: Perception.Primary


I've read both The God's of Eden, and The lost book of Enki, both great books, and I'll check out the other one, thanks!!


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God did it and it resulted in actual languages, the ones spoken by people all over the world today.
Simple. Elegant. Truth.
No brain scrambling EM goofiness.
 Quoting: Isaiah2620 1316370


This is the kind of stance that inclines people to doubt christians' intelligence. Does it diminish God's might or glory or whatever for us to seek understanding of the mechanism by which He does this or that? If we held onto this mentality, we'd still be using leeches and bloodletting to try and cure diseases caused by bacteria.

Another example: Regarding the second coming, if scripture tells us He comes "with clouds", does that automatically *have* to mean the common atmospheric vapor accumulations we see in our skies daily, or couldn't those "clouds" just as likely be the magnetic "interstellar fluff" that's been discussed here the past year?
Thread: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment


peace
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I agree. Why wouldn't God use what He created in order to bring about His plans? Makes sense to me.
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God did it and it resulted in actual languages, the ones spoken by people all over the world today.
Simple. Elegant. Truth.
No brain scrambling EM goofiness.
 Quoting: Isaiah2620 1316370


This is the kind of stance that inclines people to doubt christians' intelligence. Does it diminish God's might or glory or whatever for us to seek understanding of the mechanism by which He does this or that? If we held onto this mentality, we'd still be using leeches and bloodletting to try and cure diseases caused by bacteria.

Another example: Regarding the second coming, if scripture tells us He comes "with clouds", does that automatically *have* to mean the common atmospheric vapor accumulations we see in our skies daily, or couldn't those "clouds" just as likely be the magnetic "interstellar fluff" that's been discussed here the past year?
Thread: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment


peace
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I agree. Why wouldn't God use what He created in order to bring about His plans? Makes sense to me.
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So much for using just the almighty word then!!

A real god would just speak it done, wouldn't need asteroids or killer rogue planets!!

And how about the souls captured to power his Shechinah's?

And when do real gods need spacecraft?



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God did it and it resulted in actual languages, the ones spoken by people all over the world today.
Simple. Elegant. Truth.
No brain scrambling EM goofiness.
 Quoting: Isaiah2620 1316370


This is the kind of stance that inclines people to doubt christians' intelligence. Does it diminish God's might or glory or whatever for us to seek understanding of the mechanism by which He does this or that? If we held onto this mentality, we'd still be using leeches and bloodletting to try and cure diseases caused by bacteria.

Another example: Regarding the second coming, if scripture tells us He comes "with clouds", does that automatically *have* to mean the common atmospheric vapor accumulations we see in our skies daily, or couldn't those "clouds" just as likely be the magnetic "interstellar fluff" that's been discussed here the past year?
Thread: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment


peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1318680



I agree. Why wouldn't God use what He created in order to bring about His plans? Makes sense to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 833846


So much for using just the almighty word then!!

A real god would just speak it done, wouldn't need asteroids or killer rogue planets!!

And how about the souls captured to power his Shechinah's?

And when do real gods need spacecraft?



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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


He does "speak it done." Is this too difficult a concept for you to understand?
"And God said, Let there be light, and there was light."
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This is the kind of stance that inclines people to doubt christians' intelligence. Does it diminish God's might or glory or whatever for us to seek understanding of the mechanism by which He does this or that? If we held onto this mentality, we'd still be using leeches and bloodletting to try and cure diseases caused by bacteria.

Another example: Regarding the second coming, if scripture tells us He comes "with clouds", does that automatically *have* to mean the common atmospheric vapor accumulations we see in our skies daily, or couldn't those "clouds" just as likely be the magnetic "interstellar fluff" that's been discussed here the past year?
Thread: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment


peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1318680



I agree. Why wouldn't God use what He created in order to bring about His plans? Makes sense to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 833846


So much for using just the almighty word then!!

A real god would just speak it done, wouldn't need asteroids or killer rogue planets!!

And how about the souls captured to power his Shechinah's?

And when do real gods need spacecraft?



___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


He does "speak it done." Is this too difficult a concept for you to understand?
"And God said, Let there be light, and there was light."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 833846


It's not a difficult concept for me at all, but it must be for you christians!!

True gods do not use spacecraft, or angels armed with swords, but that is the god you worship grasshopper!!

The true creators of all just speak for their will to be done, not use fear, anger, and every dark trick up his sleeve against a world like your YHVH!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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I agree. Why wouldn't God use what He created in order to bring about His plans? Makes sense to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 833846


So much for using just the almighty word then!!

A real god would just speak it done, wouldn't need asteroids or killer rogue planets!!

And how about the souls captured to power his Shechinah's?

And when do real gods need spacecraft?



___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


He does "speak it done." Is this too difficult a concept for you to understand?
"And God said, Let there be light, and there was light."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 833846


It's not a difficult concept for me at all, but it must be for you christians!!

True gods do not use spacecraft, or angels armed with swords, but that is the god you worship grasshopper!!

The true creators of all just speak for their will to be done, not use fear, anger, and every dark trick up his sleeve against a world like your YHVH!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Why, then, do you reference the book of Genesis as an authoritative source for your theory if you don't believe what is written in it?

To me, it's kinda like, here's what I believe based on Blevsky, but I think Blevsky's writings are total bullshit.
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So much for using just the almighty word then!!

A real god would just speak it done, wouldn't need asteroids or killer rogue planets!!

And how about the souls captured to power his Shechinah's?

And when do real gods need spacecraft?



___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


He does "speak it done." Is this too difficult a concept for you to understand?
"And God said, Let there be light, and there was light."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 833846


It's not a difficult concept for me at all, but it must be for you christians!!

True gods do not use spacecraft, or angels armed with swords, but that is the god you worship grasshopper!!

The true creators of all just speak for their will to be done, not use fear, anger, and every dark trick up his sleeve against a world like your YHVH!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Why, then, do you reference the book of Genesis as an authoritative source for your theory if you don't believe what is written in it?

To me, it's kinda like, here's what I believe based on Blevsky, but I think Blevsky's writings are total bullshit.
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I never said the bible was TOTAL bullshit, it has its gold nuggets, and it's not authoritative in any way!!

I do consider many other ancient texts as more authoritative than the buy-bull by far!!

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I never said the bible was TOTAL bullshit, it has its gold nuggets, and it's not authoritative in any way!!

I do consider many other ancient texts as more authoritative than the buy-bull by far!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Then why quote from the book of Genesis at all if you believe it contains half-truths? You quoted from the book of Genesis to prove your theory, and now you're saying that it is not authoritative?

What evidence can you offer to prove that the story of the Tower of Babel in Genesis is a "gold nugget," while the story of "And God said, Let there be light, and there was light" is not?
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funny how the bible says god is not the author of confusion in 1 Corinthians 14:33, contradiction?
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Then why quote from the book of Genesis at all if you believe it contains half-truths? You quoted from the book of Genesis to prove your theory, and now you're saying that it is not authoritative?

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Wow, HardTruth, that is fascinating to say the least!! I don't know if you're aware of it but in one of the Books of Adam and Eve, we're told mankind was once able to communicate with one another WITHOUT the use of words. Not only with one another, but also with the animals. It sure seems our "makers" tried everything in the book to try and destroy us but we simply refused to lay down and die!!
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I never said the bible was TOTAL bullshit, it has its gold nuggets, and it's not authoritative in any way!!

I do consider many other ancient texts as more authoritative than the buy-bull by far!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Then why quote from the book of Genesis at all if you believe it contains half-truths? You quoted from the book of Genesis to prove your theory, and now you're saying that it is not authoritative?

What evidence can you offer to prove that the story of the Tower of Babel in Genesis is a "gold nugget," while the story of "And God said, Let there be light, and there was light" is not?
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I believe it was Velikovsky that quoted from Genesis, not I!!

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so you admit you try and seduce people with your pictures then?
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Well if I was I sure wouldn't waste my time doing it on GLP
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You're just a freaky religious troll for chick tracts!!

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Oh damn!! I thought they were sh_t tracts!!
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Here's a question: I've often wondered since we've supposedly been around for 100,000 years (or longer), where our technology went... well, if electromagnetic flares from the sun fried everything we'd pretty much be reduced to Amish, wouldn't we? Not to mention the memory loss would make us have to "remember" how to do everything again, right?
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And why are you insulting the Amish?? I wonder who would survive best if and when the SHTF - you or the Amish? I'll put my bets on the Amish.
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Then why quote from the book of Genesis at all if you believe it contains half-truths? You quoted from the book of Genesis to prove your theory, and now you're saying that it is not authoritative?

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I believe it was Velikovsky that quoted from Genesis, not I!!

 Quoting: HardTruth



This is what I have:

(b-rashith = In beginning) (bra = he created) (aleim = Elohim) <--plural, more than one (ath e-shmim = and the heavens) (u-ath e-artz = and the Earth) (Gen 1:1)

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